Sony absoutely has in the past, Revisiontist history is saying Xbox always has. Sony may be the one holding out now but Xbox is just as guilty of holding out in the past. It's not that they are innocent in this but some here want to pretend it's all be Sony's fault.
Again was a third party dev asking to Ms not Sony
yup I agree, it's just annoying that people are pretending that ms are the ones who have constantly pushed for it when it's far from the actual truth.
we know well enough when it is only third parties coming out about it and ms was against it. They may not be now and Sony may be against it now but nobody in the right mind can say ms was alway for cross play because that's far from reality.
I'm pretty sure that Sony never asked to Ms a Crossplay integration nor I think that Sony wanted one...or we would have games with PC Nintendo and Sony playing together like its happening now instead just like today is just PC and PlayStation.....this is just people building fantasies to defend Sony imho..so we can agree to disagree
They probably didn't care either way back then and just wanted FF14 on their platform, no matter what. MS refusing gave them one of the best MMOs on the market as a console exclusive, so they aren't going to say "we hope they reconsider".
Ok but this is just another story and have nothing to do with Ms promoting Crossplay with Nintendo Pc and PlayStation ....
This is kind of what I'm getting at. MS says outright they're not going to play ball with console crossplay. Sony is asked to respond and they don't say anything because they don't have to. MS already put themselves out there with an answer and yes, effectively put the ball in their court. By saying nothing, Sony effectively leaves their stance up to interpretation and leaves the onus on MS because their position is irrelevant until MS relents. In your case, you've interpreted "no comment" to mean they didn't want t rock the boat and wanted cross console play all along when all it really means is "no comment". That's why I'm curious if there's a clearer quote from them.
You're the one asking about where did Sony push for it, I just gave what their stance probably was back then. Which to me seems like it was "if we benefit, sure" outside of that what's there to muddy? Sony don't want it unless they benefit from it. So you're probably right that their stance hasn't changed. They benefited with FF14, they don't now.
I don't think that Sony would accept a Crossplay with xbox with ff14...from what we know it was just a dev dream.
I think they would have back then, if saying no meant it'd be PC and Xbox only instead.
MS also deleted ~$100+ from my wallet as I was waiting on Xbox One from the 360. Cause it expired as some kind of promotional money??? Those live point cards, what a scam. That hurt.
Well...and Nintendo, and devs, and the user base of any platform included really.
I think MS saying no gave them what they wanted, if that's what you mean? But I do think Sony would have just bit their tongue back then if MS also did the same. Even if they didn't want cross-play and only wanted FF14.
I'd honestly imagine there have been some talks with Sony about this that we're just not privy to. I think Psyonix in particular confirmed they themselves have been in ongoing talks about it with Sony since this was all announced. I'm sure it's been brought up by Epic as well in relation to Fortnite and maybe more. Whether or not the tweets are hurting the situation is up for interpretation, but I doubt that's the extent of the conversation between the two.
Exactly...and well yeah maybe Sony would accept it for that game ..but honestly imho... that's it
It applies to Nintendo too, I guess it's a case of Nintendo just don't care and see the positives. Whereas Sony only see it as strengthing the rest.
Yeah, I do agree there. Final Fantasy 14 was a very unique situation. Can only really see Minecraft PS5 giving them a similar dilemma.
