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Compsiox

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Because Fox is in the title I thought this was a list of Fox shows and I was like...Fox must have a monopoly or something my god.
 

G_Shumi

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Thursday night's ratings:

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Bus-TEE

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I know people who absolutely live Young Sheldon so it's seems as though lightning has stuck twice for CBS and Warner Bros.

Also, come on Gotham, you're better than this.
 

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Both on Netflix March 23rd (my birthday yay). I liked SCD S1, and this one seems like Barrymore and Olyphant are still just having a blast. Plus teh kids were good also so im in. I have no fucking clue what Requiem is about tho, the trailer goes super trippy halfway through.
 
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I liked Champions. They don't have it in a very favorable time slot, but at least it's premier outdid Great News (RIP Great News the best show that will likely get cancelled).
 
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Showtime Developing Comedy 'Fallet' Based On Scandinavian Format From 'Shameless' Alum & Keshet Studios
Showtime has put in development Fallet, a comedy series based on the Scandinavian format, from former Shameless executive producer Etan Frankel, Keshet Studios and Universal TV.

Written by Frankel, Fallet is a take-off on the popular Nordic crime dramas, more offbeat and darkly comedic in tone (think Shaun of the Dead). Based on the Swedish series of the same name created by FLX, Erik Hultkvist & Rikard Ulvshammar, Fallet starts out as many series do with a gruesome murder in a quaint town and the pairing of an FBI special agent with a police detective who are brought in to investigate. But this is a comedy and the two investigators are far from the best of the best; truth be told, they're inept. If they can somehow find a way to overcome their glaring personal issues and obvious lack of chemistry, this case might just redeem their failing careers.
The single best thing about the original series was Adam Godley (more like GODly, iamhereallnitedon'tforgettotipyourwaitressandtrytheveal) as the untalented Inspector Morse stand-in, the rest of it was just mostly ok. But hey, apparently the American remake of The Bridge wasn't awful.
'The Fifth Beatle': Limited Series Based On Graphic Novel In Works At Bravo
Bravo Media has put in development The Fifth Beatle, a limited event series from Universal Cable Productions and Sonar Entertainment, based on Tony-winning producer Vivek J. Tiwary's critically praised bestselling graphic novel, The Fifth Beatle: The Brian Epstein Story.

The book, published by Dark Horse Comics in 2013 with art by Andrew C. Robinson and Kyle Baker, explores the complicated personal life of legendary Beatles manager Brian Epstein, who helped catapult the Fab Four to international stardom.

Tiwary will pen the series adaptation and serve as executive producer along with Leopoldo Gout. The project includes Tiwary's access to the John Lennon-Paul McCartney song catalog, the first Beatles-related biopic to secure such rights
 

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LOL, yeah.
Man I was worried the dog was going to be killed, felt like death flags everywhere.
The dog is probably the only character they can kill. lol
I thought that guy with the dog is a real seal.
He is, but the show only has room for like 4 characters with speaking roles. So there are all these "red shirts" that are on missions with them who never say a single line because the network doesn't want to pay them.

Which is fine, but it's really weird for a "tight team" to have 4 people who talk and 10 others who don't. I joked a few weeks ago that you could probably do a spinoff show about these silent guys, where they have their own stupid relationship dramas and whatnot. lol
 

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One of those Bob's Burgers isn't actually a rerun.

The 7:30 - 8:00 slot was a new episode. For some reason not put along at the same schedule of the other Fox Sunday night shows.
 

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American Idol will be lucky if it pulls in a 1.5 in a few weeks. One of the reasons ABC picked American Idol in the first place was because they thought they could make it cheap and still pull in the same ratings that it left Fox with but right off the bat costs went through the roof and they ended up spending more on talent than Fox did. $25m for Katy Perry alone is nothing short of fucking madness.
 
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American Idol will be lucky if it pulls in a 1.5 in a few weeks. One of the reasons ABC picked American Idol in the first place was because they thought they could make it cheap and still pull in the same ratings that it left Fox with but right off the bat costs went through the roof and they ended up spending more on talent than Fox did. $25m for Katy Perry alone is nothing short of fucking madness.
I think anything it does on ABC is better than what ABC was doing for Sundays. I think ABC sundays used to be pretty bad.

I dont know why we need auditions tonight, and then auditions for this upcoming Sunday and monday again :( Auditions is kind of the weakest part to American Idol IMO.
 

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American Idol will be lucky if it pulls in a 1.5 in a few weeks. One of the reasons ABC picked American Idol in the first place was because they thought they could make it cheap and still pull in the same ratings that it left Fox with but right off the bat costs went through the roof and they ended up spending more on talent than Fox did. $25m for Katy Perry alone is nothing short of fucking madness.
The show has actually done pretty well for ABC. ABC has never had high ratings for a Sunday (maybe like 8 years ago but not nowadays) And it's just a fill in to have reality TV year round.

January 1: The Bachelor
March 11: American Idol
April 20: Dancing with the Stars
May 28: The Bachelorette

The Bachelor, DWTS and The Bachelorette have been renewed for years with ratings of like 1.8 so even if it does worse than Fox, ABC should be happy enough with the ratings to renew it.

Monday is normally "reality TV day" for ABC and everyone knows that so it should be interesting to see ratings tonight.
 
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But ratings aren't everything if the cost of the show is too high. 3 judges + Seacrest = $51 million. None of the other reality shows are anywhere near that.
 

Rychu

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But ratings aren't everything if the cost of the show is too high. 3 judges + Seacrest = $51 million. None of the other reality shows are anywhere near that.
IIRC, they struggled with the show at first because the budget they had, none of the artists they gave offers to would accept that budget so they had to go over the budget to get judges because they had a hard time finding judges.

They really wanted Katy Perry and got her. They wanted a country artist and got Luke Bryan. And I think Lionel Ritchie was originally supposed to be Pop artist Charlie Puth but he didn't accept their offer.

So if they didn't spend a lot of money, the judges wouldn't of signed up is what I'm saying.
 

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They're still paying huge amounts to pull ratings similar to The Bachelor that costs them almost nothing in comparison. How does that make sense?
 

Rychu

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They're still paying huge amounts to pull ratings similar to The Bachelor that costs them almost nothing in comparison. How does that make sense?
I don't know how much The Bachelor costs but they literally fly the contestants around the world, go to places like Macchu Picchu, go on dates that in the real world would cost a lot of money. Plus, the leads are paid. So it has to be in the millions.

It's definitely not $51M though. I still think American Idol has a chance for a second season at least though.

ABC needs shows. They cancelled almost all of their shows they launched this season and because of this, they have 19 pilots to make for the 2018-2019 season. Way more than any other network. Almost double than the others.
 
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Well you need to spend money to make money, surely having American Idol is better than having another Time After Time, a sunday ABC show that did so bad it only aired five episodes, or Ten Days in The Valley, another ABC Sunday show that did so bad it was moved to Saturday nights,...
 

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Well you need to spend money to make money, surely having American Idol is better than having another Time After Time, a sunday ABC show that did so bad it only aired five episodes, or Ten Days in The Valley, another ABC Sunday show that did so bad it was moved to Saturday nights,...
This. ABC in 2017-2018 was so bad. Old shows continued to stay strong, but almost every single new ABC show has been cancelled. It's so bad that ABC is making 19 pilots for new shows for the 2018-2019 season because of how many shows they cancelled or are planning to cancel but haven't made official yet (Inhumans). Which is almost double the amount of other networks.

We don't need more shows cancelled. It at least gets a second season in my book.
 

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One of those Bob's Burgers isn't actually a rerun.

The 7:30 - 8:00 slot was a new episode. For some reason not put along at the same schedule of the other Fox Sunday night shows.
Part of me secretly thinks that Fox actively wants Bob's Burgers to fail.

I don't know how much The Bachelor costs but they literally fly the contestants around the world, go to places like Macchu Picchu, go on dates that in the real world would cost a lot of money. Plus, the leads are paid. So it has to be in the millions.

It's definitely not $51M though. I still think American Idol has a chance for a second season at least though.
Last I heard was around $54 million. 25 to Katy, 15 to Seacrest, Luke and Lionel got bumped up to 7 each after the controversies around Katy and Seacrest came out.
 
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That was one of the most painful segments Ive ever watched on 60minutes, poor Betsy Devos, she struggled. Thought it would have done a bit higher considering she was on it.

Dont know why they wanted to air a second new episode last night, considering the other shows that are on.
 

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Animated Comedy 'Central Park' From 'Bob's Burgers' Creator & Josh Gad Lands 2-Season Pickup By Apple
In a very competitive situation, with three major streaming services pursing, Apple has landed animated musical comedy Central Park, from 20th Century Fox TV, with a two-episode, 26-episode straight-to-series order.

The series comes from the creator/executive producer of the Emmy-winning Fox/20th TV animated comedy series Bob's Burgers Loren Bouchard, who co-wrote it with the Bob's Burgers' executive producer Nora Smith and actor-writer Josh Gad (Frozen). The show's voice cast includes Gad, Leslie Odom Jr., Titus Burgess, Kristen Bell, Stanley Tucci, Daveed Diggs and Kathryn Hahn.

Central Park tells the story of a how a family of caretakers, who live and work in Central Park, end up saving the park, and basically the world.

Bouchard and Gad executive produce alongside Brillstein Entertainment Partners, with Smith serving as consulting producer. Kevin Larsen, who played a key role in getting the project together, is a producer.

Central Park was developed at 20th TV — home of such animated series as The Simpsons, Family Guy, Bob Burgers, King of the Hill and American Dad — where Bouchard is based. It was originally eyed for Fox, which has been looking up to ramp up its animated offerings, recently ordering Lil Kev animated pilot presentation based on the comedy of Kevin Hart.

After Fox ultimately passed on Central Park, 20th TV took the project out, sparking a heated bidding war among Apple, Netflix and Hulu.

Central Park marks the first animated series for Apple and one of two series the new streaming players has give a 2-season order, along with the morning show drama starring Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon.
 

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Part of me secretly thinks that Fox actively wants Bob's Burgers to fail.

Given the fact that freshman shows like Son of Zorn or Ghosted get the spot after a Simpsons airing and their insistence on giving Bob's Burgers a slot with irregular airing and a chance of getting preempted by another program, I wouldn't be too surprised. I'm glad it has survived so long despite how it has been airing.
 

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Part of me secretly thinks that Fox actively wants Bob's Burgers to fail.

Yeah, I really don't understand their strategy around when they air episodes. It's so irregular and unpredictable

Season 5 was pretty normal, but starting in season 6:

  • 1 episode in september
  • 2 in october
  • 2 in november
  • 1 in january
  • 2 in february
  • 2 in march
  • 5 in april (because 2 episodes were on april 3rd)
  • 4 in may (the first "normal" month of 2016

Season 7 was a little better, but look at season 8 so far:
  • 3 episodes in october
  • 2 episodes in november
  • 1 episode in december
  • 1 episode in january
  • Nothing in february
  • 3 episodes in march
  • TBD from there
 
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And Jane the Virgin continues to drop. Feels like a lot of people tuned out last year. Probably
after Michael's death.

I guess it's fine because according to Gina Rodriguez, next season will be the last one. I'm sure the CW will give it its final season.
 

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If you looking for something to fill the cheesy tv murder show void. Deception is it. Vinnie Jones is amazing in it
 

Tamanon

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I think Bob's Burgers will be around for a long long time. They're getting that syndication money!
 

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I don't know how much The Bachelor costs but they literally fly the contestants around the world, go to places like Macchu Picchu, go on dates that in the real world would cost a lot of money. Plus, the leads are paid. So it has to be in the millions.

It's definitely not $51M though. I still think American Idol has a chance for a second season at least though.
They probably get a lot of that shit for free for publicity for the places they go to. It's going to still run in the millions, but at a small fraction of AI. Remember that >$50 mil figure is judge/host salaries ONLY. That doesn't include anything else.
 

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If you looking for something to fill the cheesy tv murder show void. Deception is it. Vinnie Jones is amazing in it
Deception is on ABC.

ABC actually has a good show on TV this year? Like seriously they cancelled almost their entire lineup of new shows for 2017-2018 and the only one they renewed is The Good Doctor which I still don't believe is good.

I figured Deception would just be another ABC casualty.
 
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