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Cornballer

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The live ratings are considerably lower y-o-y, but the L+7 numbers have been on a more measured decline for the past several seasons now. Big drops in the live ratings make for flashy headlines, but the show is still doing extremely well - it's just rapidly losing its water cooler status.

Also, I'd be really curious to see how well the show is doing on Netflix - how many people are just waiting for the newest season to drop so they can binge it.
Thanks for the info. It's a cash cow for AMC that's tapering off, but they don't have any need to shake things up in the short term. It'll be on for a long while yet. I do wonder what what prompt them to eventually end the series - if it'll be ratings malaise or something else.
 

Nabbit

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I enjoyed it, watched through all 8 seasons. There are better shows out there, but it's good popcorn CW fun.

At first wasn't as much a fan of Caroline, but she got to be one of my favorites in the last half of the series. I think it would be a huge mistake to recast her. I don't see Julie Plec doing so unless it was her only option. My only concern is with Candice being married and mother of a young girl, there is always that possibility she may not want to commit the time. I hope that wouldn't be the case. And hopefully we'll find out soon enough.

I don't know if I agree that there are better shows out there, but I guess that is my massive fandom for the show showing. :) I totally see what you're saying about Candice King BTW and I'm glad her character grew on you so much over the course of the show. She is definitely grating when we're first introduced to her but I really warmed up to her as one of the best characters and most consistently written as well. I feel like if Candice King cannot commit the time, Plec will kill her off or make a magical plot device render her an occasional guest star. You think she'd ever recast against those alternates? Maybe I'm being naïve in not thinking so.

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Blitzrules240

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Hmmm not looking good for LA to Vegas and I've enjoyed that show

HOWEVER I found out through research that creator Lon Zimmet was responsible for cancelling Happy Endings because he used to be an executive at ABC and for that, I say fuck that.
 

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FX's 'Atlanta Robbin' Season' Bow Earns Strong Ratings
Last week's Season 2 premiere of FX's Atlanta, dubbed Atlanta Robbin' Season, scored 1.8 million total viewers in Live+3 numbers, the network said today. The series — which won the Best Comedy Series Golden Globe and Best Actor Emmy for Glover for Season 1 and returned March 1 after almost 18 months — drew 1.3 million viewers in the adults 18-49 demographic, up 7% over the Season 1 premiere and almost 10% over the series' Season 1 average. FX says that marks the best basic cable primetime scripted comedy telecast in more than a year.

FX does not report Live+Same Day ratings but said the time-shifted viewing grew 123% in viewers and 109% in the demo. In all, the network said the premiere was seen by 2.7 million total viewers in Live+3 including the premiere, two encore airings and streaming. Those numbers are expected to grow: The first season of the FX Productions-produced series averaged 5.2 million total viewers across all platforms.
 
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Martin Freeman set to star in new TV comedy for BBC & FX
The Office and Black Panther star has shot a pilot for the BBC and FX network in the US with Michael Gambon and Uncle's Daisy Haggard.

Breeders is written by Simon Blackwell, creator of Back and a writer on The Thick of It and Veep, and is directed by The Inbetweeners' Ben Palmer.

The plot remains unknown but was originated by Freeman.
And to illustrate just how true this is:
Finding info on British TV shows can be very difficult.
Shot in London in January, with locations including a tapas restaurant in Twickenham, the pilot will not be broadcast.
They shot an entire high profile pilot and we're hearing about this now.
'The Outpost': Fantasy-Adventure Series From 'Stargate' Duo Lands At the CW For Summer Run
The CW is expanding its summer programming slate with the acquisition of The Outpost, a 10-hour fantasy-adventure series from Dean Devlin's Electric Entertainment and Arrowstorm Entertainment. The series will air on Syfy channels outside the U.S. The CW will announce the U.S. premiere night and time at a later date.
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Created by Arrowstorm's Jason Faller and Kynan Griffin, The Outpost follows Talon (Jessica Green, Ash vs Evil Dead), the lone survivor of a race called "Blackbloods." Years after her entire village is destroyed by a gang of brutal mercenaries, Talon travels to a lawless fortress on the edge of the civilized world, as she tracks the killers of her family. On her journey to this outpost, Talon discovers she possesses a mysterious supernatural power that she must learn to control in order to save herself, and defend the world against a fanatical religious dictator.
 

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Are you a fellow VD fan? Glad to know that, I don't think that ever came up at the old place.
I can't possibly imagine they would recast Caroline. I think they'd kill off a character before recasting them...hopefully not just wishful thinking on my part. (Caroline's one of my favorite VD characters - no one else can play her.)
Caroline is best character. Really hope she'll be in the new spin off but she probably won't. Julie won't recast, they'll just say she has gone on a trip or something. And then Matt Davis is running the school with some buddies.

Preaching to the choir. Kai was such a great villain. I liked Lily and the Phoenix Stone business quite a bit, too. Low point for me is S5 though it still has a lot of good stuff.
As to Originals, 2>1>3=4. Last two seasons have been a slump and bore.
I found S4 to be a return to form. The shortened season really tightened up the pacing and I really liked the storyline. It also just had a beautiful ending.

Also, The Vampire Diaries / The Originals is the best TV show to have ever graced my television. I still remember running a fansite, those were the good old times.
 

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Kevin (Probably) Saves the World isn't going to come back for a second season, is it? :( Those ratings are awfully disappointing for a good, feel good show like it.

Surprised This is Us didn't do better as well. I watched it live. KPSTW is on my PVR.
 

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Caroline is best character. Really hope she'll be in the new spin off but she probably won't. Julie won't recast, they'll just say she has gone on a trip or something. And then Matt Davis is running the school with some buddies.

I found S4 to be a return to form. The shortened season really tightened up the pacing and I really liked the storyline. It also just had a beautiful ending.

Also, The Vampire Diaries / The Originals is the best TV show to have ever graced my television. I still remember running a fansite, those were the good old times.

I would hope even if she can't be a regular that she'd show up at some points in the series. Fingers crossed the show itself happens. As to season four of The Originals, I was intrigued the first third of the season but despite the shorter episode count it felt to me like the main conflict dragged on and I didn't fond the antagonist as well fleshed out as a character as others in the series. I will say on further reflection it was better than S3, but it just didn't reach the S1 and especially S2 heights for me. I don't think I liked the heights of The Originals as much as the less amazing parts of the VD, though. I just cared about the characters more on the VD. About the ending of S4 of The Originals, I thought it was interesting but some plot holes kinda bothered me. I did enjoy it more than the main conflict of the season though and I'm interested to see what happens next since I know very little about what this season will be about.
Also, the VD is one of my very favorite Western TV series ever, so I completely agree with you there. Looking very much forward to a full series rewatch.
 

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I don't know if I agree that there are better shows out there, but I guess that is my massive fandom for the show showing. :) I totally see what you're saying about Candice King BTW and I'm glad her character grew on you so much over the course of the show. She is definitely grating when we're first introduced to her but I really warmed up to her as one of the best characters and most consistently written as well. I feel like if Candice King cannot commit the time, Plec will kill her off or make a magical plot device render her an occasional guest star. You think she'd ever recast against those alternates? Maybe I'm being naïve in not thinking so.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed VD. Not trying to sound critical or give indications it wasn't enjoyable. It was one of my favorite shows that I didn't let build up on my DVR, I cleaned it off every week. But there are other shows I did enjoy more, or at least as much. But this is the case with CW shows in general. They are all predictable, but I find are enjoyable to watch. Like I said, good popcorn fun. I look forward to the spin-off, as I really like both Alaric and Caroline, and with them starting up a school for the (supernaturally) gifted is a great foundation for a show. I found Caroline to be a whiny friend that just there to have scene time in the beginning seasons. It's when she became a vampire when her character really started to expand. Not only strong in the physical aspect, but also where her character could stand on her own and up to others (and did). And after her mother passed, that is when she really blossomed. Some of my favorite episodes with her, where I think she did a great job, is when her emotions got turned off and she became 'bad' Caroline.

As for the spin-off, they really need to have both Davis and King, and I mean both as full series regulars. Even with Candice being a reoccurring cast member isn't enough. We saw what happened there with Calista Flockhart in Supergirl. She was the best part of that show and when she left it is only a shell of what it was. Even if it is established from the beginning where she would only be reoccurring, it would still have that feeling of "she needs to be here more" and on what the show 'could' be if she was. I would rather have them 'not' do the spin-off Plec can't sign King as a series regular.


Since when is .7 considered bad (dark orange) for Flash? I though it's been getting that for a bit now. Although I believe Black Lightning dropped a bit? I think it was around .6 or .7 last week. Little disconcerting Lethal Weapon dropped a bit, would love to see that stay solidly above one. Now that is a well written show and one of my favorites.
 

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To be honest, I think they are gonna end Caroline's arc in The Originals S5 and write her off so she don't have to appear in the Hope spin-off. Klaus will probably be off too if the show he just signed up for will be a success. Just gut feelings.
 

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To be honest, I think they are gonna end Caroline's arc in The Originals S5 and write her off so she don't have to appear in the Hope spin-off. Klaus will probably be off too if the show he just signed up for will be a success. Just gut feelings.

I hope you are wrong, but we will see. Instead of writing her off, I am hoping her role in the last season of The Originals is to help set up the spin-off with her involvement.
 

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Since when is .7 considered bad (dark orange) for Flash? I though it's been getting that for a bit now. Although I believe Black Lightning dropped a bit? I think it was around .6 or .7 last week. Little disconcerting Lethal Weapon dropped a bit, would love to see that stay solidly above one. Now that is a well written show and one of my favorites.

Colors are based on day by day basis compared to other shows on all networks.
 

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I could see Kevin having a chance with 5/18 scripted shows at ABC already not coming back next season (plus others that haven't been cancelled yet like Inhumans and maybe Shield and Designated Survivor). I guess it'll come down to how many pilots interest them enough to fill all those gaps.
 
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Any word on Lethal Weapon's fate? This season has had steady viewership, but overall it's much lower than last season and has shown no growth.

Honestly, I kind of hope it's canceled. It's not very good and I'd much rather see a Lethal Weapon 5 written and directed by Shane Black (Richard Donner is too old for it now)
 

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Any word on Lethal Weapon's fate? This season has had steady viewership, but overall it's much lower than last season and has shown no growth.

Honestly, I kind of hope it's canceled. It's not very good and I'd much rather see a Lethal Weapon 5 written and directed by Shane Black (Richard Donner is too old for it now)

It's a dead cert to get picked up.

Also, you're wrong, it's great. And this is coming someone who is a huge fan of the original films and Mr Black.

Besides, the TV series has no baring on the fate of the potential fifth film.
 
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Any word on Lethal Weapon's fate? This season has had steady viewership, but overall it's much lower than last season and has shown no growth.

Honestly, I kind of hope it's canceled. It's not very good and I'd much rather see a Lethal Weapon 5 written and directed by Shane Black (Richard Donner is too old for it now)
As with a lot of stuff on Fox, the Disney buyout helps renewal a bit.
Eh, I like the tv series more than the movies at this point.
 

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Wednesday night's ratings:

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Ouch at Designated Survivor. Unless it improves, I don't see it going past this season. Probably for the best after McElhone leaving the series.

Any word on Lethal Weapon's fate? This season has had steady viewership, but overall it's much lower than last season and has shown no growth.

Honestly, I kind of hope it's canceled. It's not very good and I'd much rather see a Lethal Weapon 5 written and directed by Shane Black (Richard Donner is too old for it now)

Not very good? Going to have to strongly disagree there, it's one of my favorite new series within the last couple of years. I still enjoy the original movies, but I like series even better in several aspects.

Would also like to see Seal Team go back up. 9-1-1 killing it still. And glad to see that as I am enjoying the show.
 
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'Suits' Spinoff Starring Gina Torres Picked Up To Series By USA Network
USA Network's Suits is officially a franchise with two shows. The network has given a series order to a spinoff from the long-running legal drama, which is toplined by the mothership series' alumna Gina Torres and centers on her 'Suits' character, powerhouse lawyer Jessica Pearson, as she enters the dirty world of Chicago politics.
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Suits and its spinoff will co-exist as the mothership series recently was renewed for an eighth season without two of its original stars, Patrick J. Adams and Meghan Markle. Returning cast members Gabriel Macht, Rick Hoffman and Sarah Rafferty will be joined by Dulé Hill, who is being promoted to a series regular after recurring this season, and new addition Katherine Heigl.
Wow. They are gunning for The Good Fight, but I feel pretty confident that The Good Fight > Pantsuits (or whatever they'll call it) just as The Good Wife >>> Suits. Also, something tells me Suits won't be a two simultaneous show franchise for long.
 

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'Suits' Spinoff Starring Gina Torres Picked Up To Series By USA Network

Wow. They are gunning for The Good Fight, but I feel pretty confident that The Good Fight > Pantsuits (or whatever they'll call it) just as The Good Wife >>> Suits. Also, something tells me Suits won't be a two simultaneous show franchise for long.

It feels like it's more than past the time to end Suits. I'm not sure if I'm going to bother to watch it whenever it comes back.
 

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well shit. That sucks. Bunch of bastards. Where am I going to get my Eureka/Warehouse 13/Librarians/etc... fix now? Hope he finds a place, surely it's not that expensive to make.
 

firehawk12

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well shit. That sucks. Bunch of bastards. Where am I going to get my Eureka/Warehouse 13/Librarians/etc... fix now? Hope he finds a place, surely it's not that expensive to make.
I guess that's Timeless.
(I hope they don't do that dumb conspiracy theory garbage again... what show gets a second chance like this? lol)

Also whatever happened to that other Navy Seal show with the more multi-ethnic team?
 

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well shit. That sucks. Bunch of bastards. Where am I going to get my Eureka/Warehouse 13/Librarians/etc... fix now? Hope he finds a place, surely it's not that expensive to make.
Friday the 13th: The Series
Lewis Vendredi made a deal with the devil to sell cursed antiques. But he broke the pact, and it cost him his soul. Now, his niece Micki, and her cousin Ryan have inherited the store... and with it, the curse. Now they must get everything back, and the real terror begins.

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firehawk12

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Oh weird, Drew Carey guest starred on NCIS. I don't think I've ever seen him in a dramatic role... I barely recognized him.
 
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