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Metal Gear Survive |OT| The Fandom Pain (Mod Note: Read OP)

Hispanicguy

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Not sure why but when I try to upgrade my Recurve Bow to level 2, the Attack decreases.

I've been waiting for a while for the boss to respawn so I can finally fight it. Hearing it's in salvage missions now sounds like a good time, lol

There's a possibility I may have a snow day tomorrow and if that's the case, maybe I can join you guys on Xbox for a few games.
 
DantesLink

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Bodyshot_Wizard said:
Damn.

I can't cheese the weekly hard mode with ammo supply from the digger.

Fuck lol.
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(Sorry, too good to pass up.)
 
derFeef

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Hmmm after 20 hours I might have hit a limit. Maybe after a few days with other games I can enjoy it again as much as my first 20 hours.
 
Marcus Brutalius

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Marcus Brutalius

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derFeef said:
The combat is great actually once you have more tools, weapons and moves.


At 12. That might be my problem I guess. I try to to EVERYTHING and forget to focus on the main objectives, which lengthens out the game artificially I guess.
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Oh, I see the problem there. I wanted to artificially stretch the game by not progressing through the story as well, but changed my mind at one point. Let me assure you, you run the risk of being burned out before the game really picks up (at chapter 15 or so the game gives you enough changes). I did the same thing in MHW and wasted so much time in low-rank, lol. MGS works the same way.
I've played MGS for almost 70 hours now, including co-op and I still haven't found 50% of the receipes and higher tier gear.

At chapter 12 you will most likely only have seen 10% of what the game has to offer gear- and tools-wise...oh and enemy types.
 
Klyka

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Philtastic

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Blade Wolf said:
Is the game worth playing? Is the combat fun?
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In my opinion after 30 hours with the game (which includes ~22 going through the story and then ~8 hours restarting the game from the beginning), the game is highly enjoyable as long as you don't kill everything and loot all of their corpses: if you waste a lot of time in the game doing this, you'll have issues with hunger, thirst, and oxygen which will lead to grinding which is boring. If you mix up your gameplay with stealth and combat and choose your fights, you can have an interesting experience. If you fight everything, always put down fences and hit enemies through them with spears, the combat isn't fun nor is it time efficient and you'll have a frustrating time. It's also not as possible to do this later in the game when special enemies show up. There's a lot of variety to the combat based on which weapons and gadgets you take with you, which skills you take, and your own playstyle. I've been taking a far more stealthy approach to everything which you can check out in my Let's Play series: https://www.resetera.com/threads/metal-gear-survive-played-like-a-metal-gear-game.26722/
 
Marcus Brutalius

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Philtastic said:
In my opinion after 30 hours with the game (which includes ~22 going through the story and then ~8 hours restarting the game from the beginning), the game is highly enjoyable as long as you don't kill everything and loot all of their corpses: if you waste a lot of time in the game doing this, you'll have issues with hunger, thirst, and oxygen which will lead to grinding which is boring. If you mix up your gameplay with stealth and combat and choose your fights, you can have an interesting experience. If you fight everything, always put down fences and hit enemies through them with spears, the combat isn't fun nor is it time efficient and you'll have a frustrating time. It's also not as possible to do this later in the game when special enemies show up. There's a lot of variety to the combat based on which weapons and gadgets you take with you, which skills you take, and your own playstyle. I've been taking a far more stealthy approach to everything which you can check out in my Let's Play series: https://www.resetera.com/threads/metal-gear-survive-played-like-a-metal-gear-game.26722/
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As much as I agree with you, this still doesn't cover everything the game has to offer. If you want non-stop action where all of your tools and weapons come into play, you can jump into a co-op mission or play them solo.

Someone posted this official trailer yesterday that highlights the fun parts of the combat perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOb020icOzk
 
Philtastic

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Marcus Brutalius said:
As much as I agree with you, this still doesn't cover everything the game has to offer. If you want non-stop action where all of your tools and weapons come into play, you can jump into a co-op mission or play them solo.

Someone posted this official trailer yesterday that highlights the fun parts of the combat perfectly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOb020icOzk
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Ha, that was probably me replying to that guy who thought that the game was heavily marketed as a survival game. It takes a long while to get to the point where you have lots of gadgets, traps, and good weapons, so I wanted to be more realistic about what the early game is like.
 
Klyka

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Marcus Brutalius said:
As much as I agree with you, this still doesn't cover everything the game has to offer. If you want non-stop action where all of your tools and weapons come into play, you can jump into a co-op mission or play them solo.

Someone posted this official trailer yesterday that highlights the fun parts of the combat perfectly
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Here's the fixed youtube link

that trailer is actually fucking wonderful, I used to watch it before release and just imagine all the possibilities.
 
Marcus Brutalius

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Klyka said:

Here's the fixed youtube link

that trailer is actually fucking wonderful, I used to watch it before release and just imagine all the possibilities.
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Ahaha, thanks don't know how I could mess this up. I don't even know why I've tried to convince users in the other threads that this game is not about spears and fences.
Just posting this trailer would've saved me sooo much time.

Please correct me, but if this was a trailer with no hints at Konami or a Metal Gear spin-off, Era/the old place would've gone bonkers for the game. Hyperbole? Look at the positive reactions State of Decay 2 receives with a far more generic trailer.
 
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Marcus Brutalius said:
Ahaha, thanks don't know how I could mess this up. I don't even know why I've tried to convince users in the other threads that this game is not about spears and fences.
Just posting this trailer would've saved me sooo much time.

Please correct me, but if this was a trailer with no hints at Konami or a Metal Gear spin-off, Era/the old place would've gone bonkers for the game. Hyperbole? Look at the positive reactions State of Decay 2 receives with a far more generic trailer.
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A lot of gamers dont give a shit about great gameplay. Story, feelings, and overall atmosphere impresses gamers a lot more. See the reception games like Journey get on the internet.

For the longest time, i didnt realize most people liked MGS for the story. MGSV easily has the best gameplay in the series but it is pretty much reviled in most gaming communities. A lot of the recent GOTY winners are incredibly weak in the gameplay department. Just the last three years on GAF and Reset show this. Witcher 3, Uncharted 4 and Zelda all were not that fun to play. U4 had large stretches of nothing which didnt stop most gamers from giving it their GOTY based on the story alone. Same goes for Witcher 3 which didnt particularly have a great combat system. The atmosphere, characters and story carried that game for most people. Zelda's combat bored me to death and yet people talk about it as if the greatest game ever made.

Survive ditches the story, the setpieces, the boss fights and characters that made the series great in favor of combat. To me, this is the most fun i have had playing a video game in years. Destiny is the only game that comes even close. I love how they incorporated melee weapons into MGSV's gunplay. I love how they mixed in crafting elements from tower defense games along with diablo's loot system and MGS3's hunger system. It's such a brilliant mix of like five different genres that most AAA studios dont even dare to attempt. I was describing the game to someone on whatsapp and I came up with 'MGS meets Dark Souls meets Diablo meets Minecraft meets Resident Evil'.

If a first party or indie studio had done it, it would've been lauded as a GOTY contender.
 
SenseiX

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Klyka said:

Here's the fixed youtube link

that trailer is actually fucking wonderful, I used to watch it before release and just imagine all the possibilities.
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New Dynasty Warriors looking pretty good.

Also yooooo Ray is in this game?!! More than 30 hours of game time and have never encountered it once.
 

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They really need to sort out their servers. Got to the end of the Daily Mission, it was a hard fought battle and we beat the boss in game, got an S rank and nearly got a million iris.

'Failed to connect server'

Kicked back to title screen and no save or progress kept and no rewards.

Fuck me, it nearly puts you off going near the online if after all that the servers shit themselves.
 
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Big_Al said:
They really need to sort out their servers. Got to the end of the Daily Mission, it was a hard fought battle and we beat the boss in game, got an S rank and nearly got a million iris.

'Failed to connect server'

Kicked back to title screen and no save or progress kept and no rewards.

Fuck me, it nearly puts you off going near the online if after all that the servers shit themselves.
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Steam maintenance is what happened...
I got kicked out of a game after a ten minute long wait in the lobby...
 
Crazymoogle

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- A new container has washed up!
- (Runs to location)
- It's a "hard type"!
- (Carefully opens)

[RESULT]
1x Paper [Common]
1x Gears [Uncommon]

.................
 
Keym

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Big_Al said:
They really need to sort out their servers. Got to the end of the Daily Mission, it was a hard fought battle and we beat the boss in game, got an S rank and nearly got a million iris.

'Failed to connect server'

Kicked back to title screen and no save or progress kept and no rewards.

Fuck me, it nearly puts you off going near the online if after all that the servers shit themselves.
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Same thing happened to me, but the spoils where there when I checked the crafting benches.
 
Marcus Brutalius

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Just when I was about to say that the game is too easy on hard co-op missions, I've encountered the first boss fight on the daily mission.
Now that was intense. Generic zombie game my ass.

Holy shit, did they also increase the speed of the Trackers on the daily mission? Those guys were lightning fast and hit like a truck.
Sadly I was of no good use for my team as I'm still getting duplicate gear like the drill spear. No way I'm gonna pick that over my bow.
Wtf, how much stuff is in this game? Saw someone placing cardboard fences with zombie pictures. Lmao

You know what in one regard the game is a true successor of the Metal Gear games: it has retained the goofiness and dialed it up. Can't remember that I've ever witnessed a game lobby with so much fun. Today we placed an army of Snake decoys, then saluted them, then punched them. God, this turns me into a teenage boy again, lol.

I really have to set an alarm clock now, because I've missed the second wave of yesterday's base defense...that was expensive, shit. No reward, just a punch in my balls...just like in real life ;P
 
Hispanicguy

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KaiPow said:
It's a bit of bad game design but it's comparing your current bow with arrows equipped versus the new bow with just raw damage. Chances are you have some upgraded arrows on you.
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Ahh, ok. Yea I do have the arrows. Thanks for the explanation.

Lemme see if I can get the boss to spawn. I think I'm ready for him...maybe lol

Oh wow..they gave a 7 day boost item. Might start that during the weekend.
 
Lagamorph

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What's the best way to find additional survivors? I've had a few people in my base give me distress signal side missions but haven't had one in ages. Yet there's an Achievement for having 30 people on your base at once.
 
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Marcus Brutalius said:
Just when I was about to say that the game is too easy on hard co-op missions, I've encountered the first boss fight on the daily mission.
Now that was intense. Generic zombie game my ass.

Holy shit, did they also increase the speed of the Trackers on the daily mission? Those guys were lightning fast and hit like a truck.
Sadly I was of no good use for my team as I'm still getting duplicate gear like the drill spear. No way I'm gonna pick that over my bow.
Wtf, how much stuff is in this game? Saw someone placing cardboard fences with zombie pictures. Lmao

You know what in one regard the game is a true successor of the Metal Gear games: it has retained the goofiness and dialed it up. Can't remember that I've ever witnessed a game lobby with so much fun. Today we placed an army of Snake decoys, then saluted them, then punched them. God, this turns me into a teenage boy again, lol.

I really have to set an alarm clock now, because I've missed the second wave of yesterday's base defense...that was expensive, shit. No reward, just a punch in my balls...just like in real life ;P
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Damnit, all of your descriptions of end game make me regret starting the game over again :p
 
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Found out by accident that this thread is now bigger (replies) than the Mario Odysee review thread, how did this happen, guys? Is 5 people fanboying one game enough to achieve this on Era? NintendoEra, you're one huge letdown ;P
 
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Lagamorph said:
What's the best way to find additional survivors? I've had a few people in my base give me distress signal side missions but haven't had one in ages. Yet there's an Achievement for having 30 people on your base at once.
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Just hang out at home base and look for the ! markers now and then. I seem to get 1, maybe 2 a day. Though there is a bug where you may get one right after another...only the second one doesn't spawn a distress call. No choice but to ignore and keep going on salvage runs.
 
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Marcus Brutalius said:
Found out by accident that this thread is now bigger (replies) than the Mario Odysee review thread, how did this happen?
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I mean what was there really to talk about with Mario Odyssey in the review thread? Everyone thought it was gonna be good and then the game came out and...yep, it was good, not really much grounds for discussion. With survive there was built in controversy from day 0 so of course it was going to generate more talk.
 
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VaporSnake said:
I mean what was there really to talk about with Mario Odyssey in the review thread? Everyone thought it was gonna be good and then the game came out and...yep, it was good, not really much grounds for discussion. With survive there was built in controversy from day 0 so of course it was going to generate more talk.
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Have you been a member of the place? Review threads for big titles have always by large margin been the biggest threads, not matter how they scored. A 10/10 title generated 10 pages in like half an hour. Review threads were only topped by the funny rumor threads (Project Beast, Fake Switch) or gamergate stuff. But my memory is blury...I might be wrong.
 
Hispanicguy

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Beat Bigmouth. I got a nameplate from him but it happened during the fight. Not sure what caused it but it happened the same time he ate one of the flame canisters (which was an achievement).

Took 10 grenades, 12 Molotovs, 90 heavy arrows, machine turrets, C4, mines, pistols, and finally finished with a shotgun, lol. A shotty to the face really messed him up.

I want more boss fights. I know I have the other one but I hope they add more.

Did some more regular Hard missions. Been having great luck with teams.

Not ready for the daily/weekly Hard missions though. Gotta grind some levels.
 
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Starting to think random hard containers are now bugged. 2 since the patch have no loot outside of the paper/gears...regular location containers seem to be fine.
 
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Is there a more effective way of determining which survivors should go into what divisions other than plopping them in each one for a time until their performance indicator updates? Most of my random survivors are slated to do poorly in their positions, so I'm wondering what I should do.
 
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Woooow at that Cop distress call mission. 3 Minutes, a tiny place and a huge amount of Wanderers. I noped out and brought the guy to another transporter.
 

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Is there a way to get
Big Mouth
to respawn in single player? I had a distress call for it and could not defeat it and now I cannot attempt to fight it again.
 

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Are console players experiencing disconnect upon hardmode coop completion? It started happening to me since yesterday. Was wondering if this is a pc only issue.
 
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Guys I've put like 80 hours into this game, beaten the story and the post game bosses, played tons of multiplayer, but I have one thing I want to query:

Is there any point to exploration missions? Do the give anything I can't get elsewhere? Any recipes? I'm never in need of materials so I never bother to do them.
 
Klyka

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Kyari said:
Guys I've put like 80 hours into this game, beaten the story and the post game bosses, played tons of multiplayer, but I have one thing I want to query:

Is there any point to exploration missions? Do the give anything I can't get elsewhere? Any recipes? I'm never in need of materials so I never bother to do them.
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The game says you can get "rare items" you can't get anywhere else. I firmly believe this to be untrue or at least untrue for now until they maybe add more missions.
 

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Daily S rank with 920.000 Iris points and i got disconnected....
It's weird that the message is dropped without the game freezing for a while. Also it sucks that i don't get rewards after reconnecting but i also don't get back whatever resources i used during the game. 100% loss of resources...
 
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