Using ReShade and the CRT filter + lowering the resolution makes the game look quite a bit better. It looks good enough to play thru anyways.
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Chrono Trigger is on Steam (Fan patches now being released)
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As far as I know it would be completely legal for them to do so at least for snes (not 100% sure about DS) without paying nintendo anything.
The bubsy snes game released on steam does this for example (though apparently not very well if the reviews are to be believed): http://store.steampowered.com/app/426630/Bubsy_TwoFur/.
They're probably confused because the fanbase seems to want the exact opposite things for FF6 and FF7.
This is why you offer those ports with CRT filters, to blend the assets and make it look pretty and coherent.
The sega collection does this so well T.T Gives so many choices for your preferences.
Seems like it will be impossible for SE to fix the game. They aren't going to re-work the mobile phone UI, I doubt they will fix the misaligned tiles, and an optional removal of the blur filter wont be enough as I believe some assets are individually blurred. But their response most likely will amount to nothing anyway if Nier: Automata is anything to go by. Why didn't they just port the frigging DS version, add modern resolution options, and add an optional blur filter for people who like that stuff?
Probably because they had a history of porting the mobile versions of their games. It's not a surprise, just a disappointment.
But the developers made the game on 4:3 TVs, for 4:3 TVs. If you prefer 8:7 that's fine, but it's not the intended look. This is the equivalent of arguing that CPS arcade games should run at their native resolution
Instead of the intended aspect ratio:
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Yeah, CPS2/3 games are obviously designed to be displayed at 4:3. Except Progear, which has some elements that look squished at 4:3, probably because it's from Cave and not Capcom. I use whatever aspect ratio gives the majority of objects perfect geometry (symmetrical circles and squares).
Progress.
Since the character sprites are in there, it might be easier than expected to fix that.
Sadly same doesn't seem to be true for backgrounds and even if Jed or anyone else comes up with a way to repackage the resources, it would be a lot of manual work to replace all the assets.
Since the character sprites are in there, it might be easier than expected to fix that.
Sadly same doesn't seem to be true for backgrounds and even if Jed or anyone else comes up with a way to repackage the resources, it would be a lot of manual work to replace all the assets.
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Ah man, as rough as the game might be, I'd be totally down to learn how to mod Chrono Trigger.
Oh hey everyone! Glad you liked the article.
Also looks like you've been following along with Jed's mod tools. Good stuff, he did the same for FFVI. From the looks of it, the double set of in game assets presents a problem. If *EVERYTHING* was double scale, or *EVERYTHING* was single scale with a shader applied, it would represent a fairly straightforward opportunity for a clean modding solution. As is, it's... complicated. If everything was double scale, you could just create mods to pop in cleanly refiltered or perhaps even redrawn from scratch in HD sprites for a "true HD" mod. However, because they're mixed in along with original res sprites, the only non-super-complicated solution seems to be putting pixelated (non filtered) sprites into the double scale assets, and at least recover some integrity that way. I haven't checked too closely yet as I've been busy, but this may still present a problem with "mixels" as the game might very well be sloppy about keeping the double-scale sprites on a double-scale grid, so sprites could get misaligned. And then there's still the UI elements to content with.
I think with Jed's tools and other efforts a fairly respectable version of this game is possible, but it'll still probably fall a bit short of what could have been. Promising, though.
Also looks like you've been following along with Jed's mod tools. Good stuff, he did the same for FFVI. From the looks of it, the double set of in game assets presents a problem. If *EVERYTHING* was double scale, or *EVERYTHING* was single scale with a shader applied, it would represent a fairly straightforward opportunity for a clean modding solution. As is, it's... complicated. If everything was double scale, you could just create mods to pop in cleanly refiltered or perhaps even redrawn from scratch in HD sprites for a "true HD" mod. However, because they're mixed in along with original res sprites, the only non-super-complicated solution seems to be putting pixelated (non filtered) sprites into the double scale assets, and at least recover some integrity that way. I haven't checked too closely yet as I've been busy, but this may still present a problem with "mixels" as the game might very well be sloppy about keeping the double-scale sprites on a double-scale grid, so sprites could get misaligned. And then there's still the UI elements to content with.
I think with Jed's tools and other efforts a fairly respectable version of this game is possible, but it'll still probably fall a bit short of what could have been. Promising, though.
Its a mod tho.
What I mean is that generally there wouldn't be a C & D for a modification of the game (Square still gets paid).
I haven't bough it yet (got Nier:Automata from the sale on steam, so I'm not buying a new game at least until I tire of that) but probably it's an application to view the assets from the game. If you go to his twitter you can see that he found both what seems to be the original sprite sheets and the new "HD" ones with the filter pre-baked and how the tile sprites are stored and the like
I'm glad to see that people are working on improving the game. They shouldn't have to (by which I mean Square Enix should have handled this a lot better-- of course the modders don't have to do anything), but I'm grateful for them doing so. I think I'll hold off on playing this game until then.
CT Explore got updated with modding support so I expect this to be mostly fixed within a day or less.
Aye that's the sad thing with these dodgy ports, the defilter on FF6 works wonders going by screenshots but there's no salvaging the UI :(
Still can't be overstated how commendable and appreciated the efforts by these wonderful modders is.
So which one is the modded one? I feel the right picture looks smoother except the messed-up trees.
Leaving This here for the modders
For Inspiration
edit:btw The Guy who made this, has all The main characters sprites almost, i Hope he's a Nice Guy to Release The sprites If The mod scene is able to edit the sprites
For Inspiration
edit:btw The Guy who made this, has all The main characters sprites almost, i Hope he's a Nice Guy to Release The sprites If The mod scene is able to edit the sprites
Wow, yeah, I remember toggling transparency on and off, I think in early versions of snes9x? Maybe zsnes.
There's nothing anyone can do to make Square be good custodians of their IP. The choices are literally to let it languish or to mod it and fix it, and it's damn clear which one Square has chosen.
Long ago I mocked up what a true port of Chrono Trigger should look like for a blog called "portbegging".
http://portbegging.tumblr.com/post/75074889969/port-begging-for-chrono-trigger-publisher
http://portbegging.tumblr.com/post/75074889969/port-begging-for-chrono-trigger-publisher
Long ago I mocked up what a true port of Chrono Trigger should look like for a blog called "portbegging".
http://portbegging.tumblr.com/post/75074889969/port-begging-for-chrono-trigger-publisher
I was just admiring those the other day. Didn't realize they were made by a fellow ERA member. Nice job!
This will not be fixed. This is Square Enix dropping a load of shit they know they can trick some people into buying that requires zero effort on their part. They'll make money and they don't care about sullying the property. Community blowback means nothing to them. Even if only ten people buy it I don't think Squenix is put out because they spent practically nothing porting it over.
Look at Final Fantasy 4, 5, and 6.
Look at Final Fantasy 4, 5, and 6.
While I appreciate what the modding community is trying to do, at this stage I still can't bring myself to recommend the PC version to any person, if being asked to. It's a bit hard for me because there's obviously a lot of effort has been spent in researching the modding possibility and developing the modding tools (which, if SQE has done their fucking job properly, would not even be neccessary in the first place and their effort can be redirected into developing shader filters or 21:9 support, for example), and I don't want their efforts to go unnoticed, but as it stands, the image quality is still sub par and the UI is frankly an insult to PC players.
Leaving This here for the modders
For Inspiration
edit:btw The Guy who made this, has all The main characters sprites almost, i Hope he's a Nice Guy to Release The sprites If The mod scene is able to edit the sprites
Man I wish Card Sagas Wars leaked, I still go back and watch that Link vs Cloud video sometimes.
Reminds me that FF3 mobile to steam port got that great UI mod. I wonder if something like that might be possible here.
Can someone please help me with CT_Explore?
I have literally no idea what I'm supposed to do with it. CT_Defilter was easy, extract files, run application, job done. But CT_Explore I'm completely lost, even the readme doesnt explain anything
I have literally no idea what I'm supposed to do with it. CT_Defilter was easy, extract files, run application, job done. But CT_Explore I'm completely lost, even the readme doesnt explain anything
CT_Explorer is if you intend to mod yourself.
With it, you open the ressource.bin file in the game folder and you can extract the content in another folder. Then you can edit the main file by replacing some files with others.
Ahh ok, so if/when someone comes out with a text box/menu replacement, that's what I use to swap the files out?
I haven't bought the game (yet) so I can't do it myself, so could someone provide a data dump of all the extracted resource files? I'm curious what all there is aside from the obvious sprites and tiles and kind of want to poke at the files a bit.
Technically I could buy it on steam, unpack the resources and refund but I'd rather not if I can avoid it.
Technically I could buy it on steam, unpack the resources and refund but I'd rather not if I can avoid it.
Yep. It's great that people are trying, but it's not worth it. SE shouldn't be getting money for someone else's work, either.
Leaving This here for the modders
For Inspiration
edit:btw The Guy who made this, has all The main characters sprites almost, i Hope he's a Nice Guy to Release The sprites If The mod scene is able to edit the sprites
???? This isn't how any of this works.
1) He only made sprites for a specific angles
2) There is no battle transition in Chrono Trigger, exploration and battles are the same
3) Battles have characters move around at different angles anyway
4) Changing the shape of the characters could lead to many instances where it would break animations
5) High res sprites would not mesh well with low res backgrounds, sfx, and low res npc
1-yeah that's why i said some
2-never Said about changing Battle
3- same as 1
4-re-size, to not be weird, but ALL animations have sprites its not like 3d models, The problem is to edit/re-create everything.
5- probably It does only with the main party, but Maybe with a bigger project with Side characters and monsters not. About the background Maybe waifu filter might be cool. If not i have seen mods changing The tilemap pallete in a game.
I know its a Lot of work but its not Impossible. I only posted that for reference and Maybe to have some sprites already done If Someone intends to do this.
I've seen a number of people on here say that the cutscenes are included in the game. Am I missing something? I've played up through going to the prehistoric era, and I've seen none of the PS1 cutscenes, nor does there seem to be an option for them in the menu. I know they were in the Steam trailer, but I don't think they're actually in this port...