Gran Turismo SPORT | OT | Putting it all on the line

Ruruja said:

I got PS+ a couple of days ago so finally got to try out the online racing. Works well, somebody used me as a brake in my first race on the first corner so it wasn't a great start haha, but I won my 2nd race.

How long does it take to rank up SR and DR?

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Not that long, it's much easier to go down. ;) The best method to quickly advance (that is if you want to ;)) is to pick daily races without any slow corners at the start of the race (Brands Hatch, Monza) and without walls close to the track (Bathurst, Tokyo). BB Raceway and Kyoto Myabi are great picks imo.

Hey Gran Turismo ERA.

Quick question: I noticed that GT Sport is like dirt cheap on PSN right now ($32.99 with PS+ discount). Is that the cheapest it has ever been so far? Because I kinda want to finally grab it, now that it also features even more SP content (not sure how much multiplayer I can do these days) and especially since I heard a rumor that Polyphony will be adding some cars from the Japanese Super GT championship in the near future. Does anyone have an ETA on those or is it still unknown when they're going to release them?

Why do you guys think of the new penalty system?

I think it was a bad move. Having people serve their penalty immediately, results in sudden braking and traffic in fast sections of the track. The penalty accumulation is way too severe and even the lightest taps give you penalties.

I understand what they were trying to do, but its too strict now.

If they are going to with have to serve immediately then they should immediately ghost cars, lessen the strictness of contact penalties and indicate when a driver has a penalty. Otherwise they should go back to the old system and simply make penalties harder to deplete while racing.

A lot of the FIA top 24 members are complaining apparently, and they are talking with PD which is rumoured to be changing it.

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Why do you guys think of the new penalty system?

I think it was a bad move. Having people serve their penalty immediately, results in sudden braking and traffic in fast sections of the track. The penalty accumulation is way too severe and even the lightest taps give you penalties.

I understand what they were trying to do, but its too strict now.

If they are going to with have to serve immediately then they should immediately ghost cars, lessen the strictness of contact penalties and indicate when a driver has a penalty. Otherwise they should go back to the old system and simply make penalties harder to deplete while racing.

A lot of the FIA top 24 members are complaining apparently, and they are talking with PD which is rumoured to be changing it.

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Honestly I think they should make the penalties either "give the position back to car/driver xxxx" or drive through penalties for more severe incidents.

I don't think the system as it stands is too harsh (you are supposed to avoid contact with other cars at all costs), but I think the implementation is flawed. Forcing people to serve their penalties immediately without ghosting them compounds the issue as it creates scenarios where there are slow cars on the racing track leading to more collisions which leads to more penalties. Basically all it takes is ONE driver near the front of the pack to get a penalty and that then causes a domino effect across the rest of the field.

It's funny because people complained that it was too harsh at launch, but I actually think that was the best implementation we've had yet.

Any tips on today resetera race ? I'm GR4, i'm taking a guess that its about 19 laps at a 40 minute duration ? So maybe 4 stops on RRS ?

anx10us said:

Any tips on today resetera race ? I'm GR4, i'm taking a guess that its about 19 laps at a 40 minute duration ? So maybe 4 stops on RRS ?

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I think Fifanutz was talking about fuel and tyres lasting 7 laps (do a test to be sure) whilst Rutty was doing sub 2 minute lap times so the race may well run for 20 laps. If both of those are true then looks like a 2 stop at the end of lap 7 and 14 which would leave you enough fuel and tyres for 21 laps just in case.

The GR4 McLaren is good on tyres so just take it easy, try and brake in straight lines if you can and run a bit of TC.

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Any tips on today resetera race ? I'm GR4, i'm taking a guess that its about 19 laps at a 40 minute duration ? So maybe 4 stops on RRS ?

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Bloody hell what's your average lap time? 4 stops sounds like a lot too! Looks like I'm gonna be multiple laps down on Ruttyboy come the end of the race. Haven't done much testing since earlier this week and I haven't done a full 40min stint but my times equates to 17 laps and 2 stops. Does this mean I'm way off the pace?

I tried some laps yesterday, on the Lambo Gr4 I did a 2:09. On the GR3 I tested a couple of combinations but, by my rudimental math, I think RSS are still the way to go (although I can't reach rutty's times - best I could do was around 2:01).
Biggest problem is that the GR3 always spins out at the hairpin after the underpass.

GHG, guys
I won't make it for today race.

prarts said:

GHG, guys
I won't make it for today race.

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Nooooo

prarts said:

GHG, guys
I won't make it for today race.

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Why not

prarts said:

GHG, guys
I won't make it for today race.

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Damn..... Won't be the same without you. You are my Barometer for how well I'm doing in a race. And Qualifying for that matter!

prarts said:

GHG, guys
I won't make it for today race.

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Toto is not happy.

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Anyone else around for the race tonight? Team Mercedes needs a driver!:

2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 97%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 105%

I'm in as well, replacement for DHC

• 2015 McLaren 650S Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 94%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 111% - RounD / anx10us

Who is setting up the lobby ? Whats the earliest you can get it up and running ?

Sejanoz said:

I tried some laps yesterday, on the Lambo Gr4 I did a 2:09. On the GR3 I tested a couple of combinations but, by my rudimental math, I think RSS are still the way to go (although I can't reach rutty's times - best I could do was around 2:01).
Biggest problem is that the GR3 always spins out at the hairpin after the underpass.

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I should stress the times I mentioned before were in time trial, I doubt I'll be breaking 2 minutes under race conditions. The big question for me is number of stops, I just haven't been able to test anything so I'm going to be going in a bit blind.

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I'm in as well, replacement for DHC

• 2015 McLaren 650S Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 94%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 111% - RounD / anx10us

Who is setting up the lobby ? Whats the earliest you can get it up and running ?

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There's usually a few lobbies up for practice around 8pm I know I'll be on at 8 I'll either join a room if no-one is on or i'll create one with the correct setting. Qualifying starts at 20:50 GHG runs the official lobby

I picked up this game as its on sale for the critics choice and to get towards the $100/15 PSN promo. First GT game I've ever played, enjoying it so far. Quick super newbie dumb question for everyone though, is there anything I should "do" every day? Like I've played the forza series for years and when I can I just run the game daily to collect the rewards for my avatar doing races in other players games and of course I play FH3 on weekends to do the forzathon events. I see the Daily workout in my menu but other than that I don't really see anything I need to do weekly to collect credits, cars, or XP - right?

Going in blind. Its 40 mins duration now 0_0

I'm back in GHG! Want me to take the Mercedes if aanxious is happy with the McLaren?

im happy with the mclaren

DHC-Shannow said:

I'm back in GHG! Want me to take the Mercedes if aanxious is happy with the McLaren?

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Yep take Prarts' Merc SLS.

So many driver swaps this week lol. Final teams for this week:

Aston Martin:

• 2015 Aston Martin V8 Vantage Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 100%, Weight Reduction Ratio : 106% - cooldawn
• 2012 Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3 Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 111%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 104% - ruttyboy

Audi:

• 2016 Audi TT Cup Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 103%, Weight Reduction Ratio : 100% - Fifanutz
  
• 2015 Audi R8 LMS (Audi Team Sport WRT) Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 91%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 108% - GHG

BMW:

• 2014 BMW M4 Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 99%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 104% - Oghuz
• 2016 BMW M6 GT3 (Walkenhorst Motorsport) Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 98%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 102% - Witcher Vasilisk

Dodge:

• 2013 Dodge Viper Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 93%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 107% - Roy
• 2014 Dodge SRT Viper GT3-R Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 84%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 103% - BradleyLove

Ferrari:

• 2009 Ferrari 458 Italia Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 100%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 105% - eyeball_kid
• 2013 Ferrari 458 Italia GT3 Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 101%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 109% - Psycho_Mantis

Lamborghini:

• 2015 Lamborghini Huracan Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 99%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 103% - Sejanoz
• 2015 Lamborghini Huracan GT3 GR.3 - Power Ratio : 94%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 108% - AbandonedTrolley

McLaren:

• 2015 McLaren 650S Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 94%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 111% - anx10us
• 2015 McLaren 650S GT3 Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 111%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 107% - RounD

Mercedes:

• 2010 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Gr.4 - Power Ratio : 97%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 105% - DHC-Shannow
  
• 2015 Mercedes-AMG GT3 Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 93%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 100% - Riderz1337

Lobby goes up in about 30 minutes.

UNDOCUMENTED CHANGES VIA GTP.

"Graphics
- Lighting changes various tracks @KingFrog / @GhostChild @dimassa19
- Detailed grass has been added to Blue Moon Bay and its variants. @KingFrog
- Rubber marbles will now accumulate trackside on all Blue Moon Bay variants @Crazybutt198
- Spawn frequency of blue moon bay planes has been increased @dimassa19
- Density of gravel effects has increased on ALL tracks, Debris/gravel will now be tracked into the road by vehicles going offroad. Particles will continue to fall off the car long after leaving gravel pits, previously debris and gravel would be kicked up directly behind the vehicle. @VelocityX @KingFrog
- Smoke density has increased @dylpro
- AI that spins out will now yield to oncoming traffic when attempting to re-enter the course @daan
-Gr.3 Monza race jets now emit smoke in the colors of the Italian flag. @sumbrownkid
- Mclaren F1 wheel gap issue has been rectified
- The Nissan Skyline GT-R ( R34)'s Nissan badge has been replaced with the updated badge. Previously the car sported the incorrect badge."

Psycho_Mantis I assume I'm taking the Gr.3 again this week? That's what I've been practicing with at least.

Yup :D

Already online practising a bit.. the BMWs use any special custom livery?

Lobby is up.

Get in, apply BOP then start quali.

Good luck guys.

DHC-Shannow

This what you're talking about? Definitely no contact.

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DHC-Shannow

This what you're talking about? Definitely no contact.

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Ok here's it from my point of view, I'd led the entire GR4 race up to this point (outside pit stops) and you dive up the inside at degner 1 (not an overtaking spot) and leave me nowhere to go except the gravel - you miss out the bit on your video that you don't actually make it around without going in the gravel yourself so as I'm on the outside where do I go? I see you coming and try to avoid you but you clip my front end on the way through.



Now do you understand why I was pissed off?

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DHC-Shannow

This what you're talking about? Definitely no contact.

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I'm going to play devils advocate here and say that although there doesn't appear to be contact, it was pretty much a divebomb because you were behind him at the braking point so he would have had little warning that was going to happen...

Generally speaking, unless you can overtake a slower car before you get to the braking point it's best to wait until the next straight section to perform the overtake because your corner exit should be a lot better.

I did something similar to Fifanutz during qualifying at the chicane after 130r and basically I shouldn't have done it and pulled out of the move.

The responsibility is on the faster overtaking car to overtake cleanly if the slower car has not moved off the racing line to allow you to pass.

Yeah, Bradley, seeing Shannow's video I gotta say that was a really bad spot to pass someone. That corner, even when hitting the apex, usually leads you out to the kurb, so forcing Shannow to stay on the outside (in a quick turn where Shannow didn't have time to brake) basically forced him to either avoid you and go into the gravel, or hold his line and end up with one or both of you off the track.

There were a couple laps where I was stuck behind a Gr.4 driver for at least a quarter of a lap and lost precious seconds, and that sucks, but it was my responsibility as the faster Gr.3 car to wait for a clean pass. We all make bad judgment calls in the heat of a race, but it would've been better to wait until the turn after and try to beat him down the straight.

As I said, I didn't feel any contact nor does my full replay show any contact (unless the hit boxes are larger than the cars?).

To be honest I thought you'd left the door open for me as I was vainly trying to chase Rutty down. I didn't appreciate the position you were in, so I apologise for that—it was in no way intentional.

Edit: I'm more than happy to hold my hands up and accept it was a bad pass. Obviously it's easy to see post-race that an apology was due, but in the post-race lobby I knew I didn't hit DHC, hence my surprise at the demand for an apology. So again to DHC-Shannow I am sorry, and especially sorry for the impact it had on your finishing position.

Going into next week's race at what is one of the tightest circuits in the game all us GR3 drivers are going to have to learn to be more patient than ever. Yes it will slow us down in places but that's part and parcel of multiclass racing.

There were multiple times in todays race when I was stuck behind GR4 cars going through the S bends but that's part and parcel of it, if the GR4 car doesn't relinquish the racing line then you can't just force your way past.

If you end up losing time then so be it. It's better to lose time than to cause an accident and potentially ruin someone else's race.

Despite losing my 4th place finish due to losing 20 seconds to a nasty spin on Turn 1, I gotta say that was the most fun I've had in a League race, and definitely the closest one. Lots of position changes in the top 5 (well except for rutty of course). At least now that I found a setup that tamed the Ferrari Gr.3 a bit I can now blame my position only on my own mistakes instead of the car.

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Despite losing my 4th place finish due to losing 20 seconds to a nasty spin on Turn 1, I gotta say that was the most fun I've had in a League race, and definitely the closest one. Lots of position changes in the top 5 (well except for rutty of course). At least now that I found a setup that tamed the Ferrari Gr.3 a bit I can now blame my position only on my own mistakes instead of the car.

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Yeh I noticed you were doing well for the first 5/6 laps or so, you weren't too far behind me. I've learnt to love the R8 despite the traction still being a nightmare once the tires start to go. My last 2 laps were a nightmare because I had nothing left tire wise, apart from that the car performed alright without any hiccups the one mistake I had prior to lap 18 was down to a lack of concentration. I breathed a sigh of relief when I saw the final lap indicator flash up lol.

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Yeh I noticed you were doing well for the first 5/6 laps or so, you weren't too far behind me. I've learnt to love the R8 despite the traction still being a nightmare once the tires start to go. My last 2 laps were a nightmare because I had nothing left tire wise, apart from that the car performed alright without any hiccups. I breathed a sigh of relief when I saw the final lap indicator flash up lol.

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Yeah I noticed you doing better with the R8 also. When practicing I was running with TC off and only switching it on for the last lap before pitting, but in the heat of the race I totally forgot to do that and paid the price when my tires wore down. Might've been able to catch Riderz on the last couple laps, but I filled up with 5 laps of fuel instead of 4 and ended 3 seconds behind.

Post-race backlash aside, I really enjoyed that race which considering Suzuka is not a favoured circuit of mine, says a lot about the overall experience.

Got a great start and managed at one point to get about 18 seconds ahead, but I knew I had to do three stops with the Viper and RSS tyres—was getting 5 laps out of them.

Not sure what Mitch did with his stops but was praying Rutty would do three also, but alas: Rutty did a two stopper.

Have to say, finishing 13 seconds behind Rutty feels like a win to me.

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As I said, I didn't feel any contact nor does my full replay show any contact (unless the hit boxes are larger than the cars?).

To be honest I thought you'd left the door open for me as I was vainly trying to chase Rutty down. I didn't appreciate the position you were in, so I apologise for that—it was in no way intentional.

Edit: I'm more than happy to hold my hands up and accept it was a bad pass. Obviously it's easy to see post-race that an apology was due, but in the post-race lobby I knew I didn't hit DHC, hence my surprise at the demand for an apology. So again to DHC-Shannow I am sorry, and especially sorry for the impact it had on your finishing position.

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Ok bud, I know what it's like when you're pushing hard to catch someone and you just want to get past the slow car as quickly as possible. That bit of a straight leading to degner 1 caused GR3 cars to catch me there all night, Rutty passed me there early in the race (we managed to get around 2 abreast) and nearly did it again later on but I think he put a wheel on the grass and backed out. It was a tough race for me as I was in amongst the tail end of the GR3 cars most of the time so was always having to try to let them past without losing too much time myself. To be fair, although I did lose a big chunk of my lead there I did get back on the track still in the lead only to throw it away coming into the hairpin 2 corners later whilst getting out of GHG's way :-( So frustrating to lose it so close to the end.

Anyway, we do this for fun and no hard feelings, and well done on getting 2nd place.

That was a fun race, congrats to the winners.

The penalty I got early on after the Aston Martins clashed each other cost me a few spots. And I messed up my fuel management so I actually had to refuel just before the race ended which also cost me a few spots. My driving was fairly consistent though so I'm happy about that at least.

Bring on the season finale, it's gonna be intense :D

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Post-race backlash aside, I really enjoyed that race which considering Suzuka is not a favoured circuit of mine, says a lot about the overall experience.

Got a great start and managed at one point to get about 18 seconds ahead, but I knew I had to do three stops with the Viper and RSS tyres—was getting 5 laps out of them.

Not sure what Mitch did with his stops but was praying Rutty would do three also, but alas: Rutty did a two stopper.

Have to say, finishing 13 seconds behind Rutty feels like a win to me.

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I also did a 2 stopper but I got held up by traffic after your last pit stop, it was actually Fifanutz holding me up through the S bends lol . I was about 4s ahead of you after you exited the pits for the last time but that got brought down to less than a second approaching degner 1 and then I pushed a little harder than I should have (considering the fact that I needed the tires to last 7/8 laps), caught some grass on the exit and binned it. You sailed past and the rest is history.

I spent the rest of the race trying to match your pace (ill advised considering you were on much fresher tires) but that just meant I was wearing the tires down much faster than I should have considering the length of my stints. The last 2 laps were a nightmare because of that...

Thankfully we were far enough ahead of Riderz so me binning it twice on the last 2 laps didn't change the result in any way.

Thought it was a great race overall. This and Interlagos have been the best 2 of the series IMO.

Is there such thing as cold tires in GTS. I spun out on the chicane in the first lap driving as normal.

Did they adjust the SR?
Monza first corner, carnage in front of me, snake my way through the crashed cars, was about to accelerate out of the chicane, car in front of me doesn't. bump, 2s penalty, wtf am I supposed to do .

Also Nordschleife daily was great, my first time in GT Sport, so I kinda knew the track and was reasonably fast but I just couldn't overtake, I tried but it was always too narrow additionally 90% of the time my screen was covered by the car in front of me so I had to rely more on my muscle memory from earlier GT games to know what was coming up. All in all great daily

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Yes the tires are cold on race start and for the first couple of sectors after you exit the pits on fresh tires.

The tires can also overheat after a spin or an accident that causes a slide.

Don't ask me why there is no tire temperature indicator, because there really should be one so that we can be aware of exactly what's going on with the tires at all times.

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I did something similar to Fifanutz during qualifying at the chicane after 130r and basically I shouldn't have done it and pulled out of the move.

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Is that the one that cost me fastest Qualifying lap? I was well over a second up after the 3rd sector would've had pole by a few hundredths. Dont know the names of corners
Sorry for holding you up in the race though was totally unintentional. Well done on getting 3rd though. Don't wanna sound bitter but are we sure everyone had correct settings coz it really seemed more unbalanced than usual in the race I had no pace at all on the straights the mcclaren Gr4 in particular seemed like a Gr3 car the way it shot past me. I was faster in the Twisties despite chronic understeer but i just didn't feel competitive.

Good race everyone (although not really for me haha). Really struggled on this track. Lots of constant turns and very narrow track with not a lot of places where you can overtake.

The Gr3 Benz really locks up if you brake and even slightly turn your wheels which made me go off the track a lot of times. Really staring to dislike the car. It used to be my favorite... Did they patch it or something? I've grown to like the Chevy a lot though.

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Is that the one that cost me fastest Qualifying lap? I was well over a second up after the 3rd sector would've had pole by a few hundredths. Dont know the names of corners
Sorry for holding you up in the race though was totally unintentional. Well done on getting 3rd though. Don't wanna sound bitter but are we sure everyone had correct settings coz it really seemed more unbalanced than usual in the race I had no pace at all on the straights the mcclaren Gr4 in particular seemed like a Gr3 car the way it shot past me. I was faster in the Twisties despite chronic understeer but i just didn't feel competitive.

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Yeah I was surprised that pole time stood as it was my first lap so i had a nearly full tank - I just never got another clean lap in to beat it, sounds like you had the same thing.

As for the settings, I'm certain I got mine right - is there any way of checking from the replay data? How did we catch Jambo's mistake with the settings in the trial race?

How did everybody's tire strategy go? I was in a Viper and finished 2nd in GT4, I chose softs and I was surprised at how well they lasted despite the wear icon showing heavy wear. I did 3 stops.

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Yeah I was surprised that pole time stood as it was my first lap so i had a nearly full tank - I just never got another clean lap in to beat it, sounds like you had the same thing.

As for the settings, I'm certain I got mine right - is there any way of checking from the replay data? How did we catch Jambo's mistake with the settings in the trial race?

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Yep same thing with Qualifying but it was my on fault really i left my hotlap so late I only gave myself one shot at it.
I think Jambo picked up on it himself. It may not have been the case that anyone's settings were wrong it's just that lots of people have swapped cars, maybe I'm used to having certain cars around me and it was a little different this time. Ill check out the replay tomorrow.
You were really unlucky with that incident bud shoulda had the victory again

I had a big spin when up quite high so switched to mediums just to keep with Cloud, managed to eek a few extra laps out as fuel wasn't an issue on this track. Then had a quick final stint on SS when I think his tyres were pretty much gone.

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Is that the one that cost me fastest Qualifying lap? I was well over a second up after the 3rd sector would've had pole by a few hundredths. Dont know the names of corners
Sorry for holding you up in the race though was totally unintentional. Well done on getting 3rd though. Don't wanna sound bitter but are we sure everyone had correct settings coz it really seemed more unbalanced than usual in the race I had no pace at all on the straights the mcclaren Gr4 in particular seemed like a Gr3 car the way it shot past me. I was faster in the Twisties despite chronic understeer but i just didn't feel competitive.

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Yeh that's the one. I was on the hottest of hot laps when that happened as well, it was going to be good enough for second behind rutty based on the previous sector times. We managed to get in each others way both in qualifying and during the race.

Go team Audi lol :/

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Is that the one that cost me fastest Qualifying lap? I was well over a second up after the 3rd sector would've had pole by a few hundredths. Dont know the names of corners
Sorry for holding you up in the race though was totally unintentional. Well done on getting 3rd though. Don't wanna sound bitter but are we sure everyone had correct settings coz it really seemed more unbalanced than usual in the race I had no pace at all on the straights the mcclaren Gr4 in particular seemed like a Gr3 car the way it shot past me. I was faster in the Twisties despite chronic understeer but i just didn't feel competitive.

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Yeah I mean it's great to have the multiclass but it makes BoP down to honesty and it's possible that some people have forgotten sometimes and the gulf I've seen in speed seems a bit strange.