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A normal 16 player I don't have a problem with. It's only the good 16 players that are just ridiculous. I feel like every time I block it's a 50/50 and I have to hope I guess right or I lose 60%. It's bad enough that I have to approach 16 very carefully due to his long reach and armor, but not even being able to block without a forced guess is a bit much.

Also, I don't consider rank a good way to determine skill until at least Majin. Even then, I imagine PC doesn't have a large pool of strong players when compared to the PS4 version. I hardly play on Xbox anymore because the players over there just aren't good enough.

I'm at Majin, and when I run into other Majin players it's a good experience. Problem is there's like....100 of us in the world atm on the platform so to run into one is the rarest shit in the world. Good PC players are just as good as good PS4 players from my experience, and I've run into 700k+ players in both. It's more that PC has less people so there's less good and bad players to go around. You run into the same 5 dudes over 2-3 hours basically.
 

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It's mostly quality of play. The matchmaking is pretty awful in terms of matching up skill in any other mode, or hell, even connection for the most part, so I don't get what I'm looking for there. I tried one Party match and when half of the room was zero bars it kinda ruined the experience. I wish more games did ranked like Tekken does, which is endless until someone decides they don't want it to be anymore, that way I could just do endless long sets with good opponents all day. Ring all of my friends play on PS4 and it doesn't actually work there so that's not an option either. Casual match no one will play me because of my color so that's a moot point too lol. Whenever I have a sub team I have to try it in ranked which drops my BP and win rate like a rock until I switch back over.

Yeah this color-threat thing is whack. I'm solid green so guess that means I'm free
 
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Its weird, 16 used to be my best character but my Nappa and Tien are already way better.

I really like 16 but I wish he had more combo variety than dunk into an assist ad nauseam
 

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but it feels so good to dunk people.

Need to login to look at my color. I think I'm light green?

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WTH? Just had a guy ragequit on me. Dang am I that oppressive? I tried to give this guy a chance because he had Krillian and I never fought one before. Granted, I didnt let him win or get out of the corner... But its not like my combo strings are that long.... I'm just using the typical magic series things 2H, 5H, blah blah

And I know it's a RQ cause he bounces soon as I land the fatal blow LOL
 
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Dartastic

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Is the internet better yet? I haven't played nearly as much as I'd like to because the matchmaking is ass.
 

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wow and another RQ. I was super nice to this guy. Gave him space, let him build ki. Yes I punished his SDs but was trying to teach him you cant just Super dash all over the place for free

Before that I got stomped by a good player though...
 

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So disappointed at the anime music pack. Not only they do not include the one song they used in promos and trailers which is really hype (We Were Angels) they're just the TV edits and in some cases don't even bother to use the original track.
 
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Honestly, if someone racks up 7bars they should totes be able to TOD

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Rewatching the best mini arc, aka the Saiyaman Arc, and it makes me wanna pick up Gohan. Its dumb af that the saiyaman arc wasnt extended to like 24eps. Villain of the week wouldve been great if it continued.

I really want Videl, its such bullshit she stopped fighting after Spopovich. Every other male fighter after a loss goes and trains and comes back 2x as strong. But ever women just becomes a housewife.

Honestly the worst thing about DB, especially Videl as she had potential
 

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Ran into a Piccolo that kept doing this move where he Vanishes and then Karate chops me in the head. Had no idea how to block. Guess I'll have to go into a Lab and make a bot spam that move

Oh man just used 16s Self Detonate move on this one guy. I had all 3 of my guys to his 1 little dude. So had a huge lead but I just couldn't resist

Alright time for sleep. Man this game just too much fun
 

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I keep thinking character switching is bugged. Is it possible this bug affects that too?? Like sometimes I know I'm holding the switch button and my dude just 'assists'. It's like FUUUUUUU this was flawless in MvC:I. I hit my tag button my guy will tag out if I'm not in hit stun 100%

I haven't had that issue, but it could be a dropped input glitch that's causing both. Hard to say really.

I'm at Majin, and when I run into other Majin players it's a good experience. Problem is there's like....100 of us in the world atm on the platform so to run into one is the rarest shit in the world. Good PC players are just as good as good PS4 players from my experience, and I've run into 700k+ players in both. It's more that PC has less people so there's less good and bad players to go around. You run into the same 5 dudes over 2-3 hours basically.

Yeah I said PC had a smaller base of strong players. Xbox is what I said had less skilled players.

Yeah this color-threat thing is whack. I'm solid green so guess that means I'm free

If someone isn't pink I pretty much assume they're free. I've had some good matches with reds, but I win probably 90% of the time. The color thing is more indicative of skill than rank.
 

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Why are people even ragequitting when they've already got a 42% win rate?

What are you even gaining at that point? The self-assurance that you technically weren't dunked by Pink Trunks?
 
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Ran into a Piccolo that kept doing this move where he Vanishes and then Karate chops me in the head. Had no idea how to block. Guess I'll have to go into a Lab and make a bot spam that move

Oh man just used 16s Self Detonate move on this one guy. I had all 3 of my guys to his 1 little dude. So had a huge lead but I just couldn't resist

Alright time for sleep. Man this game just too much fun

That's his parry. The L version has him teleport and hit you in front and the M version is a cross-up that comes behind you. I think it's jab punishable on block but it's super tight. You can bait it out and 2H both on reaction though.
 
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Had a fucking close match yesterday, which I somehow managed to win.
It was a ton of fun, but I needed a break after that.

The first round felt really good to me.
In the second round I fucked up really badly.
And in the last round I panicked and went into button mashing mode.

I know I should Super Dash less often and I still have problems swapping my characters in.
Some times I just can't pull of a quarter circle in all the hurry, I've got no problems with that in practice mode.



452k know. Playing on cheap Whiskey helps enormously :)
I'll try that, two of my favorite Whiskeys are cheap ones :D
 
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I think Android 16 has a lot of ridiculous things. I don't think 5H and 2H should have armor. I could maybe listen to an argument about it having armor against normals (even though I still wouldn't change my mind), but the fact that he can eat a kamehameha to the face and still get a full combo out of it for free is silly. It's not like he needs the reach in a game where everyone has the same mobility options. It would be understandable if he couldn't dash, like Tager in Blazblue, but he has long normals and he doesn't even have the shortest air dash (I think that's Majin Buu). I know Tien and Nappa also have moves with armor, but those are specials, not normals. I believe they can't get a full combo out of them without burning some resources. Do those go through specials too? That's the one thing I don't know about their armored moves.
Also, it has been said but 16 having a true hard knockdown with a meterless command grab is not fun.
And while I'm at it, his 214S being +4 on block (and his assist also being super safe on block)? Also silly.

This is a bug. For whatever reason the game just won't recognize inputs sometimes. Other times if you hold back it registers as down/back and vice-versa. I've actually gone into replays where it happened and watched the command replay to see the stick move despite the fact that I know my hand remained stationary during the block string.
You know, I was starting to think that was an issue with my Dualshock 4, until I read that quite a few other people are having the same exact issue. I can even see it happening in real time in training mode. It's sad, because that has made me lose more matches that I would like to. I hope they fix it soon, but given that they haven't really fixed the online yet, I'm kinda worried.
 

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I love when the game kicks me out of a lobby mid-match in a way that would look like a rage quit.

That classic feeling of "shit...dude definitely thinks i raged out, maybe i should friend them and explain...wait i dont care..."

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Wait so the blocking thing is a confirmed bug? I just assumed ppl were dropping their blocks and blaming the game
 

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Why are people even ragequitting when they've already got a 42% win rate?

What are you even gaining at that point? The self-assurance that you technically weren't dunked by Pink Trunks?

I fought against a guy with a pink team. Guess he's a pink panther fan idk. I dont think I have that color unlocked myself

That's his parry. The L version has him teleport and hit you in front and the M version is a cross-up that comes behind you. I think it's jab punishable on block but it's super tight. You can bait it out and 2H both on reaction though.

Ah thx looks like I will have to learn his moveset a little

I'm having trouble finding high level SSB Goku play. Does no one use him?

I've only seen Fame use him on his Cell, ssb Goku, and ssb Vegeta team

rage quit in casuals is spreading like a plague smh
Don't even think I've had a RQ yet in ranked actually but been seeing them in Casuals like nobody's business
 
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Yeah Fame is in the WinterBrawl Top 8 somewhere. I want to rewatch this too.


I'm actually considering changing him out of my main team (16/A.Gohan/Tien) because of this.

I'm getting a little bored of him...

I love self detonating too much. I'm going to be an old man one day laughing my butt off daydreaming bout slam dunks and detonates with 16
 

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So I've asked this before but we've been out awhile now. Folks have tested, tried and played more.

What is everyone's team and why?

Mine is Piccolo/16/Beerus
The reason is I simply have long combos and good stuff with all 3 so I'm making them work as 3 points. Piccolo thankfully can get his needed extensions from either as well as mixups even though he is better off with either Black or Vegeta as a partner (though I did rock Black and may return later). 16 I am just an avid grapple monster in games in general so between long range grabbity Piccolo and 16 I have both my styles of pressure and tactics on deck. Beerus is there because I love his knockdown game and crazy orb usage to control the screen and force mixups. Together I am a bit lacking on horizontal coverage compared to the beam centric tools others have but I'm used to being a guy fighting that stuff and in this game its not hard to find ways past with Vanish and the occassional super dash. It gets rage quits because once you get in someone's head with any of these characters it feels like 50/50 hell and just constant mixup pressure.
 

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My team is usually Trunks/Goku Black/16 because they all have excellent 2H (I still havent done a ton of ranked so seeing a few Superdashers). I need to stop playing Casuals so much and just focus on ranked a bit more

Been wanting to expand into a Goku Black/Hit/Beerus team at some point too just need to figure out Hit
 

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What is everyone's team and why?

16/Cell/Goku Black because they seem to require the least amount of work and labbing to do well with. I feel like I'm doing just as well with them as I would with triple the amount of practice with another team. Being completely honest.

I tried SSJ Vegeta instead of Black for the assist, but felt like my ways of getting in while playing as Vegeta were too straight forward and wouldn't open anyone up. Plus, it's not like Black's beam assist isn't great.

pick a top tier
 

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Android 16/Vegeta SSJ/Goku SSJ

16 in general is just really fun to play and he has some deadly combos. Vegeta's assist is great and honestly I feel like his move set isn't that bad. And people are seriously sleeping on Goku SSJ as an anchor.
 

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I've fallen into SSGSS Vegeta/21/Yamcha. Yamcha was a scrub killer for me day one and his assist is the easiest way to extend combos for me. Now, he's probably my worst character and the next to go off the team, but Wolf Fang Fist is just too fun. Dunking with Vegeta Blue is great and I always enjoy rekka characters. 21 is the most recent addition and I had no idea what I was missing. She replaced 18 and I immediately saw improvement in my game, I just really like all of her tools. The team is a little too meter hungry right now, but in general It's still a lot of fun.
 

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So I've asked this before but we've been out awhile now. Folks have tested, tried and played more.

What is everyone's team and why?

Mine is Piccolo/16/Beerus

Ginyu/A16/Gotenks

Using this team currently cause I'm still thinking of a team for Teen Gohan and figuring out how to use him but it's kinda hard for me cause he's more weird for me than Ginyu is. But as far as the team goes, Gotenks assist is just really good and both uses it really well. Ginyu is very fun and disrespectful and A16 assist helps with lockdown.
 

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Ginyu/A16/Gotenks

Using this team currently cause I'm still thinking of a team for Teen Gohan and figuring out how to use him but it's kinda hard for me cause he's more weird for me than Ginyu is. But as far as the team goes, Gotenks assist is just really good and both uses it really well. Ginyu is very fun and disrespectful and A16 assist helps with lockdown.
I have seen so little Gotenks I literally can't even remember what his assist is lol.
 

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I have seen so little Gotenks I literally can't even remember what his assist is lol.

galactic donut. tracks anywhere on the screen and has two hits. It's good for pressure and locking down plus with the second hit, you can get restand's if you manage to hit them when it hits. Very underrated by people since it does have start up but it's easy to get around.
 

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So disappointed at the anime music pack. Not only they do not include the one song they used in promos and trailers which is really hype (We Were Angels) they're just the TV edits and in some cases don't even bother to use the original track.

The worst part of the music dlc is that you can't use it in arcade mode. It's so limited. I wish they would give us some customization.
 

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Ugh. Bad time for online. Everyone in party match would pop in and out and the host kept getting lost. Go to casuals and such and its just this one dude twin over and over popping up while I train who never confirms and just stalls out the 30 sec timer each time. Exit training. Get two matches. Ones okay, the other is sketchy.

All I got out of this was I found my Piccolo needs to go in the middle to have more bar. Start with either Beerus or 16. People have no idea what to do if you super jump and place orbs then start boppin around with teleports or super dash. Just super dash through em or launcher my approach. You'll rip right through the orbs or stuff me or both. Not like I even pinned em down with 16 assist or anything yet.
 

closer

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So I've asked this before but we've been out awhile now. Folks have tested, tried and played more.

What is everyone's team and why?

Still running 18, hit, gblack

Was initially unsure about this but at this point i dont care anymore lol. Have heard 18 better at 2nd position and gblack better at point. But its working fine for me atm and im having fun with it.

I basically picked my initial team (veg instead of gblack) just cuz i liked the characters, but ended up switching out veg to gblack for the beam.

Lots of my wins have to do with ppl not being experienced, a lot of games ill kill 2 characters with 18 corner stuff, ill kill 2 chars w/ ppl being intimidated by hit, or ill get washed and kill 3 ppl with gblack lol.
 

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So in everyone's opinion...who is the best battery in the game? Who makes the most bar for their teams without needing to spend it?
 
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So in everyone's opinion...who is the best battery in the game? Who makes the most bar for their teams without needing to spend it?

I wouldn't say he's the best but after playing him for a bit SSJ Goku is an underrated battery point. Being able to get a hard knockdown off of any touch meterless is a low-key extremely powerful tool, and with the right assists gives him good oki and safejump setups especially in the corner. I've been using him as the lead on my Yamcha/Piccolo team and if I make the right reads off of my first touch I can kill meterless off of one neutral hit and 2 safe setplay setups, building 3 bars in the process.

Orb assist + hard knockdown does not get enough credit for how much it buffs someone's Oki game.
 
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