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Murasaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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My group stream suggestion went up too late so the votes wont get there for it, but I'll be floating this again next week:-

THE MOLE: Play a few different couch co-op games throughout the night (Overcooked, Lovers In A Dangerous Spacetime, Splatoon Salmon Run etc.) where the players must work together to complete an objective. Have Allies swap in and out frequently throughout the night. Before you begin, shuffle 8/9 cards together, one of which is red, the rest of which are black. The Ally who gets the red card is "The Mole", and must do everything in their power to sabotage the group throughout the night. At the end of the night, everyone decides on who they think the mole is. If the mole can successfully sabotage enough games and remain undetected, they will win, otherwise, the players who sussed them out will win. Viewers and Allies alike can all play along throughout the evening, attempting to figure out: "Who is The Mole?

Sounds like a lot of fun. I'll vote for it next week (because I proposed a game for this week :P)
 

Maiar_m

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Oct 26, 2017
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My group stream suggestion went up too late so the votes wont get there for it, but I'll be floating this again next week:-

THE MOLE: Play a few different couch co-op games throughout the night (Overcooked, Lovers In A Dangerous Spacetime, Splatoon Salmon Run etc.) where the players must work together to complete an objective. Have Allies swap in and out frequently throughout the night. Before you begin, shuffle 8/9 cards together, one of which is red, the rest of which are black. The Ally who gets the red card is "The Mole", and must do everything in their power to sabotage the group throughout the night. At the end of the night, everyone decides on who they think the mole is. If the mole can successfully sabotage enough games and remain undetected, they will win, otherwise, the players who sussed them out will win. Viewers and Allies alike can all play along throughout the evening, attempting to figure out: "Who is The Mole?
Bosman's the Mole.

I know this is not how the game works but even when he isn't, Bosman is the Mole.

Will upvote!
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I just realized that if Box Peek is so far away from release, the Bosman game dev stream is also nowhere near. Now I'm bummed. Oh well...
 

eko

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I just realized that if Box Peek is so far away from release, the Bosman game dev stream is also nowhere near. Now I'm bummed. Oh well...

That's a shame, I started learning Game Maker to make my own project alongside Bosman :(

Now the world will have to wait a lot longer to finally enjoy my masterpiece. A masterpiece that isn't delayed because I can't get my lazy ass to work on it, but because Bosman is doing everything he can to savotage me. Yeah. That's the real reason. Totally.
 

False Witness

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Honestly, I loved the Dark Souls 2 retro. My only exposure with it was also my first exposure to Kay Plays. Man, I miss her playthroughs. She used to post on the old forum too.
 
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I haven't actually watched any Retro's before - the only long form edited content I watched in GT days were Timelines. I just watched the DS2 one and are the supposed to be just a run through of what the features are and synopsis of the story? I don't know what I was expecting but I was a little confused after watching it.
 
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Hey guys, so in the gaming hangouts, there is a sticky about how twice a week, they are going to sticky a community thread in the main gaming section, giving it lots of new eyes.

Now, here is what I want to do.

Do NOT highlight this thread. This thread is cool, but there really isn't much reason for people to want to click it and check out.

However, I want to highlight the souls retro. I personally think it gives people more of a reason to check out easy allies, and within that thread I link to this thread.

I don't think we can do 2. That would really raise some questions on having 2 community spotlights.

Then, once we get the spotlight, I'll swap it out with ANOTHER thread I'll make about game sleuth. That cool?

I think the retros and game sleuths are good entry points for easy allies, rather than just some catch-all EZA thread.
 

diablogg

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Oct 31, 2017
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Hey guys, so in the gaming hangouts, there is a sticky about how twice a week, they are going to sticky a community thread in the main gaming section, giving it lots of new eyes.

Now, here is what I want to do.

Do NOT highlight this thread. This thread is cool, but there really isn't much reason for people to want to click it and check out.

However, I want to highlight the souls retro. I personally think it gives people more of a reason to check out easy allies, and within that thread I link to this thread.

I don't think we can do 2. That would really raise some questions on having 2 community spotlights.

Then, once we get the spotlight, I'll swap it out with ANOTHER thread I'll make about game sleuth. That cool?

I think the retros and game sleuths are good entry points for easy allies, rather than just some catch-all EZA thread.

I also think Brandon Plays Pokemon and Don's Discount Gaming are the best x2 shows EZA have ever produced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCNnzEWy-1w&list=PLwa6fmqvU-4FUdjSGiMq_3_V2UCbq9yQL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2W9gKCvswiw&list=PLwa6fmqvU-4Gotcrgu3AtwfQOg94dMoI0
 
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diablogg

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Sure, you can say that. I don't really think its a particularly good video to show off to someone who has no idea who EZA are though.

I think the EZA crew themselves have said on the podcast the best video to show someone who has no idea what EZA is is Don's Discount Gaming. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. Either way I understand why you would say those 2 series, I just find them to be the most vanilla(?) is maybe the word.
 
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I think the EZA crew themselves have said on the podcast the best video to show someone who has no idea what EZA is is Don's Discount Gaming. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. Either way I understand why you would say those 2 series, I just find them to be the most vanilla(?) is maybe the word.

Honestly, if someone told me "Hey, watch 'Jeffery's Flea Market surprise' on (insert really small youtube channel here)" I'd honestly probably wouldn't.....
I don't know who Jeffery is, why do I care about his flea market surprise, and who even is (youtube channel)?

vs.

A retrospective on the entire souls series in 5 parts.

Now THAT I am interested in.

Obviously nothing against Don and his show. Fucking love it. But I don't envision a lot of people checking it out unless you are right next to them and can force them to watch it.
 

LiquidSolid

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Oct 26, 2017
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Sorry but I'm going to disagree. The Souls Retrospective thread isn't a community, it's a discussion on a five part series. I don't think it should've even been posted in the Hangouts section.
 

klastical

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Oct 29, 2017
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I don't know what to pick but I feel like a reto isn't it. The thiing that makes easy allies great is the collaboration of its nine members. Saying that, I do realize that asking someone to watch a two our group stream is a tough sell.
 

ShadyK54

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Oct 25, 2017
4,272
Texas
Sorry but I'm going to disagree. The Souls Retrospective thread isn't a community, it's a discussion on a five part series. I don't think it should've even been posted in the Hangouts section.

The Retro thread is in Hangouts? Huh lol.

I also agree. If any Allies related thread should be opted in, it's this one. It's a community spotlight, after all.

The information about the Retrospectives and Game Sleuth are there in the OP, people could just look that over and go to the channel/videos from there.
 

Kneefoil

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh... I didn't realize they did a BlizzCon reactions stream. I wish I'd known, so I could've seen it live.
 

Urbannomad123

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yakuza Zero is now on sale on the EU PlayStation store. This series was not on my radar till I discovered Easy Allies but have purchased and am now downloading. The passion of Ben and Huber had me considering it but it was Brad's response to the game on the Beach House stream that confirmed to me that I would play it. Almost bought the Kingdom Hearts games too since they are on sale. Reality kicked in however. I have no time to play those games at this moment.
 
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Yakuza Zero would have easily been my game of the year had I not just recently purchased a Switch and play Breath of the Wild and Odyssey.
 

Karu

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Zero still above Odyssey for me, haha, if ever so slightly.

Will prop buy Mafia III and the KH collection on the PS Sale.
 

Chaeotic

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I truly hope there is a round table discussion for this year's GOTY. I don't care how long it is, just everyone down together, each presenting their personal, and then debating it out until a group decision is reached. Not numbers, but an agreed upon title - this year has been that incredible for games it'd be riveting to watch that many different tastes and personalities come together to try find THE group GOTY on discourse alone. Or maybe I'm just a maniac who likes conflict!
 

Holundrian

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I truly hope there is a round table discussion for this year's GOTY. I don't care how long it is, just everyone down together, each presenting their personal, and then debating it out until a group decision is reached. Not numbers, but an agreed upon title - this year has been that incredible for games it'd be riveting to watch that many different tastes and personalities come together to try find THE group GOTY on discourse alone. Or maybe I'm just a maniac who likes conflict!

Me too. I hope the spotlight is on the process not the results especially in such a stacked year.
I mentioned this a while ago on somewhere already but my 2 hopes for EZA gotys are that they serve is a great look back and all the great games that came out this year taking great care nothing is forgotten. Basically it would be nice to get a sense of "maybe you missed these in 2017 but it's never to late def try to check them out this year".
My second hope are just fun passionate discussions I don't know how realistic this would be given that I have no idea how many games the group as a whole(or at least more than 2) has checked out. Gotta shoutout to Giantbomb here who I think are best in the biz regarding how they gave goty their own unique spin. I've fallen off hard on their regular content but the 2 things I'm always checking out without fail are their goty deliberations as well as their E3 late night meetups.
 

Hasney

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Oct 25, 2017
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I truly hope there is a round table discussion for this year's GOTY. I don't care how long it is, just everyone down together, each presenting their personal, and then debating it out until a group decision is reached. Not numbers, but an agreed upon title - this year has been that incredible for games it'd be riveting to watch that many different tastes and personalities come together to try find THE group GOTY on discourse alone. Or maybe I'm just a maniac who likes conflict!
Me too. I hope the spotlight is on the process not the results especially in such a stacked year.
I mentioned this a while ago on somewhere already but my 2 hopes for EZA gotys are that they serve is a great look back and all the great games that came out this year taking great care nothing is forgotten. Basically it would be nice to get a sense of "maybe you missed these in 2017 but it's never to late def try to check them out this year".
My second hope are just fun passionate discussions I don't know how realistic this would be given that I have no idea how many games the group as a whole(or at least more than 2) has checked out. Gotta shoutout to Giantbomb here who I think are best in the biz regarding how they gave goty their own unique spin. I've fallen off hard on their regular content but the 2 things I'm always checking out without fail are their goty deliberations as well as their E3 late night meetups.

Last year, Blood said Last Guardian on the Slack channel and everyone agreed to go along with it, so your deliberations would have been a chat log. Since they don't have a hard limit on how many games are nominees, the only real discussion would be the winner and I have a sneaking suspicion that Mario will do the same thing.

Still bummed about Last Guardian

Yeah, last year was just too easy with it being GOTY hands down. Might happen again, but if not, hopefully we hear the discussion.
 

Holundrian

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Last year, Blood said Last Guardian on the Slack channel and everyone agreed to go along with it, so your deliberations would have been a chat log. Since they don't have a hard limit on how many games are nominees, the only real discussion would be the winner and I have a sneaking suspicion that Mario will do the same thing.
Yeah, last year was just too easy with it being GOTY hands down. Might happen again, but if not, hopefully we hear the discussion.
I see. I can def see it's probably hard to make deliberations interesting in that case although this years wealth of games should make it easier on that front. I will say though I wouldn't mind even if they agreed beforehand on something to just hold deliberations with theatricals(think wrestling) of course assuming that's something they'd be into. Probably better to not hope for too much given that January already starts explosive and reviews would likely take priority over goty content.
 

Hasney

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Oct 25, 2017
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I see. I can def see it's probably hard to make deliberations interesting in that case although this years wealth of games should make it easier on that front. I will say though I wouldn't mind even if they agreed beforehand on something to just hold deliberations with theatricals(think wrestling) of course assuming that's something they'd be into. Probably better to not hope for too much given that January already starts explosive and reviews would likely take priority over goty content.

They did record the debate for all the other categories last year, so if there's a discussion to be had, I think they'll do it. I don't think the meat of the discussion is going to be more than 3 or 4 games anyway and I don't think a vote will be as split as the infamous Witcher 3 vs Bloodborne one I wish we saw. Think we're looking at a BOTW, Mario, Yakuza 0 and maybeeee Persona 5 shootout.
 

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Interesting. I think Persona 5 has more of a shot than Yakuza 0, personally. Huber said in Persona 5 Spoiler Mode that it was his current GOTY. I think Ben would vote for Persona 5 over Yakuza 0, too. Not sure about any other allies.
 

Holundrian

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They did record the debate for all the other categories last year, so if there's a discussion to be had, I think they'll do it. I don't think the meat of the discussion is going to be more than 3 or 4 games anyway and I don't think a vote will be as split as the infamous Witcher 3 vs Bloodborne one I wish we saw. Think we're looking at a BOTW, Mario, Yakuza 0 and maybeeee Persona 5 shootout.
You know what I actually totally forgot about that they did and I watched it live too. I remember now best owl. Def bring back fun nonsense awards but otherwise I probably should rewatch that to have a better idea on what I'd like to see them improve on. From the gut though I think maybe I wouldn't necessarily want it again to be a stream given the time limit of their group streams, I wanna say Goty are an excellent opportunity to do some produced content on(not necessarily anything too insane though).
Oh I also maybe hope that they'd do personal lists if that's something they would be into.
 

Hasney

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Oct 25, 2017
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Interesting. I think Persona 5 has more of a shot than Yakuza 0, personally. Huber said in Persona 5 Spoiler Mode that it was his current GOTY. I think Ben would vote for Persona 5 over Yakuza 0, too. Not sure about any other allies.

Didn't end up watching the Spoiler Mode, so if that's the case, defo swap Yakuza 0 and P5 around then.
 

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Yeah Yakuza 0 is amazing and all but Persona 5 is still for sure better. Obviously Zelda is gonna take it for the allies but I could see Persona edging out Mario for second.
 

grmltr

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Oct 25, 2017
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Watching some of their older stuff ... that hearthstone tournament is such a chill watch. Love to see another community tourney with ben/brad/huber commentary.
 
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I'm playing zero right now, and its pretty addicting, but my main complaint right now is combat.
It feels stiff the way a beat em up shouldn't feel. Picking stuff up feels like a disadvantage, like my grandma is doing it.
Crowd control feels tough. Everyone just dogpiles you, and you take damage during almost anything besides heat attacks. Grab a guy? You can take damage. Try picking something up? They'll immediately hone in on you, hit you, and you'll drop whatever you were trying to pick up.

I dunno. I just wish it felt way more arcadey.
 

Karu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Persona is an so-so written, horribly paced, slightly creepy game with a fun combat system and tons of style. I wouldn't vote for it, but I can totally see thr Allies carrying it near the top. Ain't the worst choice.

Also another vote from me in regards to produced or at least elaborate GotY content.
 

Sheldon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I can see this being another year where the Allies won't have much discussion about the GOTY. Giant Bomb has a bit of safety net against lack of drama in that they're arguing over a Top 10. So even if the number one choice happens rather unanimously any given year, they'll always spend hours backstabbing and politicking and making the case for their personal favorites.

For example Huber will probably bow to group opinion on GOTY, but if you were to try to take second or third place away from Evil Within 2 the shotgun and axe come out. Instead of in the GOTY discussion, those big fights will happen in the genre categories.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm playing zero right now, and its pretty addicting, but my main complaint right now is combat.
It feels stiff the way a beat em up shouldn't feel. Picking stuff up feels like a disadvantage, like my grandma is doing it.
Crowd control feels tough. Everyone just dogpiles you, and you take damage during almost anything besides heat attacks. Grab a guy? You can take damage. Try picking something up? They'll immediately hone in on you, hit you, and you'll drop whatever you were trying to pick up.

I dunno. I just wish it felt way more arcadey.
It gets better as you unlock more moves and stronger heat generation and resistance to certain types of knock down as well as get accustomed to style changing(basically to move anywhere always go into rush and when you wanna pick up something go beast mode). That said I wouldn't debate that it's still a very flawed combat system upon closer inspection especially in the way it creates challenge with it's worth sin being a love stunlocking the player as punishment.

SO, I am a total noob to these guys. Is Frame Trap and the EA podcast their main two shows? What is the difference between them? I watched their last episode and was really digging it.

The EZA main podcast is news/events focused. Frame Trap is focused on the entertainment(shows/games/movies/etc) the allies have consumed lately and their thoughts on those(hence it's probably fair to say it's games focused). Also FrameTrap tackles each episode deep dive on a topic that Ben chooses which is the Hottake segment.
 
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Skywalker

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SO, I am a total noob to these guys. Is Frame Trap and the EA podcast their main two shows? What is the difference between them? I watched their last episode and was really digging it.
 

ShadyK54

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Oct 25, 2017
4,272
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SO, I am a total noob to these guys. Is Frame Trap and the EA podcast their main two shows? What is the difference between them? I watched their last episode and was really digging it.

The main podcast is about the gaming news of the week & is weekly.

Frame Trap is about the games they've been playing & how they're feeling about them & is every two weeks.
 

Ultimadrago

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Watching the podcast now, it seems there's some great excitement for Ghost! I'm not the biggest Sucker Punch fan, but it's nice to see more higher budget samurai content.
 
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