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Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Haha I hear you. I feel kinda bad about maining him because now he's widely hated and I admit he's a pain in the ass to fight too.

It's not fair though, I picked him like two days before Sonicfox made him popular!
 

MechaX

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,044
Alright, I'm coming back to the game after MHW and I need to ask some questions on some team roles here (assume that 18's place on the team is non negotiable; still trying to firmly decide on the 2 and 3 spots).

How is Trunks looking at this point? And assuming I don't automatically want to have Vegeta as the assist, who would work pretty well with Point 18?
 

Sephzilla

Herald of Stoptimus Crime
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Oct 25, 2017
17,493
Alright, I'm coming back to the game after MHW and I need to ask some questions on some team roles here (assume that 18's place on the team is non negotiable; still trying to firmly decide on the 2 and 3 spots).

How is Trunks looking at this point? And assuming I don't automatically want to have Vegeta as the assist, who would work pretty well with Point 18?
I feel like Trunks loses some of his oomph when you learn how to stop some of his overhead stuff. But I fought FSLink yesterday and his Trunks was hopping all over the place destroying me so what do I know lol.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Speaking of team comp I keep second guessing myself, ugh lol. Vegeta is non-negotiable - my favorite Dragon Ball character easily so I want to work around him. Cool with playing Blue or SSJ, though right now I use SSJ. I like Freeza a lot. His playstyle is really fun and I like his movement, and I just enjoy the character ("DIE!!!!"). 18... I dunno! I really love the character here too, she's cool as hell, I like playing as strong women, but I feel like I just suck at using 17 and I'm no good with her barriers. Should I just tough it out and really learn them all or would somebody be a good substitute here? I don't want to use Black or Goku because everybody uses Black and I just don't really like Goku.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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canada
You high ranked guys should post some combo vids for us scrubs to learn from



meterless blast 60% combo that actually gains you a meter
 
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DrDogg

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Oct 25, 2017
1,575
seriously wtf.

like i get matches every few minutes

That's weird.

I've never waited more than 3 minutes at worst for a match.

What rank are you guys?

I'm hovering between Demon and SSJ3 which means I can only fight people at those ranks or above, or someone lower rank who has their search options set to fight stronger players (rare). It still shouldn't take this long, but I chalk it up to matchmaking issues. I've almost always had to wait at least 10-15 minutes between matches.
 

Mullet2000

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,907
Toronto
What rank are you guys?

I'm hovering between Demon and SSJ3 which means I can only fight people at those ranks or above, or someone lower rank who has their search options set to fight stronger players (rare). It still shouldn't take this long, but I chalk it up to matchmaking issues. I've almost always had to wait at least 10-15 minutes between matches.

That might be why. I'm still Super Saiyan 1.
 

BadAss2961

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,069
What rank are you guys?

I'm hovering between Demon and SSJ3 which means I can only fight people at those ranks or above, or someone lower rank who has their search options set to fight stronger players (rare). It still shouldn't take this long, but I chalk it up to matchmaking issues. I've almost always had to wait at least 10-15 minutes between matches.
I'm on PC. Hover between Demon and SSJ3 like you, and rarely have to wait more than a couple minutes for a match offer.

I often see a lot of the same names though.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,624
canada
What rank are you guys?

I'm hovering between Demon and SSJ3 which means I can only fight people at those ranks or above, or someone lower rank who has their search options set to fight stronger players (rare). It still shouldn't take this long, but I chalk it up to matchmaking issues. I've almost always had to wait at least 10-15 minutes between matches.

SS2
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
8,810
Single player JoJo game for Switch
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"Raditz and Zarbon. Cabba"
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DrDogg

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm on PC. Hover between Demon and SSJ3 like you, and rarely have to wait more than a couple minutes for a match offer.

I often see a lot of the same names though.

PC is supposedly much better. It's Xbox and PS4 with the problems. PS4 is where I wait forever, but on Xbox it ignores my search settings and I have to weed out all the 1 bar connections it throws at me. Also connections are far less stable on Xbox. It's not uncommon to have a match pop at 5 bars, but then drop to 2 bars before I even have time to accept.

That might be why. I'm still Super Saiyan 1.


Yeah I'm sure my rank has something to do with it. It wasn't as bad when I was SSJ1 and SSJ2, although it still shouldn't be as bad as it is.
 

TheRightDeal

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Oct 27, 2017
1,591
I'm Supreme Kai and things were pretty slow going for me last, rank match wise. Five to ten minute wait on PS4 in between games, a week ago I would essentially get them back to back.
 

Sephzilla

Herald of Stoptimus Crime
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Oct 25, 2017
17,493
This list is pretty suspect for a bunch of reasons

1) Gogeta getting in but no Janemba?
2) Kale being the front person over Caulifla would be strange since we have OG Broly
3) Tapion is probably the most obscure and forgotten movie character
4) No Tournament of Power characters
5) Videl getting in before Mr Satan

The only people on that list that don't surprise me are Zarbon, Raditz, and Roshi
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Isn't that the guy that edited his post when his season 1 leaks turned out wrong?
IIRC he edited out Black as DLC. But plans can change. He correctly leaked the base form Goku and Vegeta, as well as stuff about other games (like TMNT in Injustice) that would be basically impossible to predict. I don't think getting one thing off means he isn't reliable.
 

TDLink

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Oct 25, 2017
8,411
This list is pretty suspect for a bunch of reasons

1) Gogeta getting in but no Janemba?
2) Kale being the front person over Caulifla would be strange since we have OG Broly
3) Tapion is probably the most obscure and forgotten movie character
4) No Tournament of Power characters
5) Videl getting in before Mr Satan

The only people on that list that don't surprise me are Zarbon, Raditz, and Roshi
1) A bit surprising, but doesn't mean it wouldn't happen.
2) No stranger than all of the literal multiple versions of characters we currently have
3) That doesn't mean anything. And he definitely isn't. He's routinely brought up way more than people like Garlic Jr., Lord Slug, Hatchiyack, etc.
4) Saving ToP characters for a proper sequel makes total sense and has made total sense. Everyone thought they'd be in S1 too and look what happened. That's not really a knock against it.
5) I mean, Videl can at least natively fly and use Ki. Satan will get in eventually.

The first season has a lot more "Suspect" shit like Base forms, "17 being the only TOP character... and after 17 is in the game as an assist", and Cooler randomly.
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Predicting Base Goku and Vegeta isn't exactly a bold prediction though

Predicting more Goku and Vegeta isn't, but base forms sure was. A ton of people either got mad or disregard the rumor as nonsense based on those because it simply doesn't make sense as DLC.

Yeah, people were actually using the fact he said base forms to discredit essentially everything he said, because surely that could not be true at all. And yet... here we are... and people are still doubting him lol.
 

Sephzilla

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Oct 25, 2017
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One of the most memorable fights in the entire franchise is base Goku vs Vegeta. And we still don't have a Goku with the Spirit Bomb in his moveset. I maintain my stance that the base forms wasn't exactly a bold prediction
 

Voltt

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Oct 25, 2017
10,499
Yeah, people were actually using the fact he said base forms to discredit essentially everything he said, because surely that could not be true at all.

No, it was him claiming Raditz would be in that discredited him. And surprise surprise, Raditz wasn't in season 1. He's hit and miss at best.
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
No, it was him claiming Raditz would be in that discredited him. And surprise surprise, Raditz wasn't in season 1. He's hit and miss at best.
He's incredibly more hit. Everyone has some misses. Even if you want to write off the base forms, most people can't "call" the TMNT showing up in Injustice or the exact weapon type of a new character before a game (Soul Calibur) is even announced.
 

Voltt

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Oct 25, 2017
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Like when Black was totally being held back as DLC. Totally.

Editing your original posts to "fix" what you were wrong about is unbelievably shifty.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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I hate DLC Goku #3 and Vegeta #3 on principle but I'm not gonna lie as a Vegeta fan I'm excited to see how he would play.

Btw is there a better resource for bnbs/guides/blockstrings beyond just asking around? I feel bad just popping in here every once in a while to be like "drr how do I trunks" but on YouTube I mostly just find lists of combos, some actual bnbs and others just net warriors flexing their 7 bar double assist sparking skills
 

Opa-Pa

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
8,810
I could be wrong but I think Slaythe has implied that Raditz was planned as DLC and then replaced by someone else.
 

Cybersai

Banned
Jan 8, 2018
11,631
Radditz was probably planned for the base roster but they couldn't finish him in time so he became DLC. No way was Radditz never considered. He's been in every fighter over the last 20 years.
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Plus he was completely wrong about the SFV S3 characters. Take this with a grain of salt people
He said this:

Season 3 characters include Sakura, Sagat, Cody, Sodom, 2 newcomers (I heard 2 Final Fight newcomers from one source, but Roxy and a Shadaloo Doll from another)

I have a third source since I originally posted that, and they have conflicting information regarding the characters in Season 3. They claim that the Season 3 characters include Sakura, Sagat, and Cody (which is the common thread I have realized), but Blanka, the neo Shadaloo woman from Ed's story with the bo staff weapon, and "The President" as the other three characters instead.

I wouldn't call that completely wrong at all. Dude has multiple sources, and many of them have clearly given correct information.
 

Owl

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Oct 25, 2017
10,140
California
Seems like he probably got a wind of some insider knowledge, but he was wrong about too much too take every character he says as true. Also if he was reliable he would own up to his mistakes and say plans must have changed or something instead of editing his post like no one would catch it.
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Seems like he probably got a wind of some insider knowledge, but he was wrong about too much too take every character he says as true. Also if he was reliable he would own up to his mistakes and say plans must have changed or something instead of editing his post like no one would catch it.
He -has- said this too. Recently he specifically mentioned he heard plans changed and Zasalamael would no longer be DLC (which he originally reported) but was now going to be in the base roster... then he was announced a this week (A few weeks after his update).

I get that people -want- this guy to be wrong. But he's been pretty reliable. Nothing he has said has been 100% off base.
 

JEH

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,224
Wow this dude did the nicest thing waiting for me to come back while I had to answer the door. I even came back and won. I feel like I should send him a message or something haha.
 

Moara

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Oct 25, 2017
23,870
He said this:



I wouldn't call that completely wrong at all. Dude has multiple sources, and many of them have clearly given correct information.

Most of the accurate shit there isn't from him. He just took other leaks from Flowtron (who is actually legit) and mixed it with random bs. He also edits his post later when any new conflicting information comes out, so that already should set off red flags.
 

TDLink

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,411
Most of the accurate shit there isn't from him. He just took other leaks from Flowtron (who is actually legit) and mixed it with random bs. He also edits his post later when any new conflicting information comes out, so that already should set off red flags.
Explain his SC6 stuff. Not a single other soul knew about/called Groh and the weapon he uses.
 

JEH

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
10,224
Guy probably does have some legit info but is just sprinkling in BS now that he has people's trust.
 

FSLink

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Oct 25, 2017
3,262
Alright, I'm coming back to the game after MHW and I need to ask some questions on some team roles here (assume that 18's place on the team is non negotiable; still trying to firmly decide on the 2 and 3 spots).

How is Trunks looking at this point? And assuming I don't automatically want to have Vegeta as the assist, who would work pretty well with Point 18?
18 should be second on a team. Put Trunks first. Use his great normals to get in, and let 18 start setting up with 17 assist....or use 18's barrier assist to go ham with corner mixups with Trunks.
Watch ChrisG's Trunks/18/SSJ Vegeta for ideas. If you aren't using Vegeta I'd suggest someone who can lock the opponent down like Kid Buu so Trunks and 18 can both set-up.

I think Trunks is great in this game. He's probably in the upper half of the cast for sure.
 
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