Oh God, they slaughtered the pronunciation of undine, didn't they?
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Secret of Mana (Remake) |OT| Super Multitap Not Required
- Thread starter Einbroch
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Oh God, they slaughtered the pronunciation of undine, didn't they?
this is mighty N°9 levels with the mouth not moving when they speak, lol!
THe game isn't a disaster, but 40$ is asking way too much
THe game isn't a disaster, but 40$ is asking way too much
No, they pronounce it correctly (in English, with the English pronunciation).
Sure, but i thnk this is stupid to strip out gameplay element for make a game any harder. You are suppose to use rule to be able to progress, and not remove rule to make progress harder, the balancing was clearly way down the list of proirity for this release, it shows a lot ! Played another 2 hours since yesterday, the game is really too easy, this really remove any sense of achievement.
Okay, it just popped up on Steam for me. Honestly, i knew there was a remake coming, but news of it being localised, let alone being on PC are a *total* surprise to me. Hot damn!
Yeah, it's not like this and Adventures of Mana are on PS Vita? Oh wait.
Or you know, I have a PS4 and a switch and I'd rather play this kind of game on a handheld capable device than any screen. Just like I'd rather play a big AAA game on a PS4 with better graphics.
EDIT: looking back on it though, I'm dangerously close to port begging so I apologise to all.
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if Americans are still trying to get a copy of Secret of Mana but their gamestop is sold out and you don't mind an import copy, it's available here with £2.99 shipping to USA https://www.365games.co.uk/ps4-games/secret-of-mana-ps4-game-with-costume-dlc
I'm using reshade with a simple personal presset, a bit color saturated but made the IQ much better and similar yo the original game.
I'm not at home right now but i will post the presset later with some pics.
I'm not at home right now but i will post the presset later with some pics.
I haven't looked into it but I'd guess used Vitas are pretty cheap these days, at least 2000 models.
User Warned: Portbegging - Please do not come into an official topic to voice you are only interested in the content if it comes to another platform.
They're still like £100. Why on earth would I pay that much money just to play Secret of Mana? That's a ridiculous thing to suggest. I'll just wait until the inevitable port.
Because it sounds like you like handheld RPG and there are many exclusive on Vita
My daughter work up this morning, ran into our room and asked if we could keep playing when I got home from work tonight. I have successfully brought one more into the fold, although I don't know if she'll be able to wrap her head around the magic system(She's 6).
That game came out when i was like 7.... i think she will catch pretty fast :)
So far not really, i'm probably waiting something that I will probably never get... we never know
But overall, this remake give me 0 reasons not to go back to the original snes game, they add nothing to make thing more fun then the original....
Yo, some of these remixes are actually really, really good - generally because they stick close to the original while accentuating what's already there. I was posting my thoughts on some of them prior, but I think I'll focus on some of the really good ones right now:
Fear of the Heavens - Remake
https://youtu.be/5t7bxFC5Sfo
Original
https://youtu.be/vhGDmBbQdsA
This may be sacrilegious, but I like the remake version better than the original. I know! I KNOW. But I'm a sucker for slow builds up to an extreme upswell, which this song does extremely well, and when it kicks it into high gear around 1:30 it just makes me think, "FUCK YEAH, SECRET OF MANA!"
Eternal Recurrence - Remake
https://youtu.be/Vd2KWWNnh3Y
Original
https://youtu.be/w4Kv3ZlvQLw
The remix is rather soothing, and I feel, quite a bit subtler than the original.
Did You See the Ocean - Remake
https://youtu.be/zlicjJHRS1A
Original
https://youtu.be/xrMDbcIxmXE
I will admit that it takes a little getting used to the beginning portion of the remix, as it almost sounds technoish, but when it kicks into gear around the minute mark, yeah it gets really good.
Fond Memories - Remake
https://youtu.be/5zFrozpJPbM
Original
https://youtu.be/YP1KQ-pW5yI
One of the few remixes I actually think is flat out better than the original. I like how the underlying note is akin to the original, but I like the softer tones, and when 1:32 kicks in is when I just fell in love with this one and solidified it as better than the original to me.
A Wish (snow theme) - Remake
https://youtu.be/b0BBhfVkS3I
Original
https://youtu.be/v6n1t2nMyds
Another one that I think the remake is better than the original. A Wish is one of my favorite tracks from the original, and somehow, they invoked an even more Wintry feel to the song than the original.
Just a few examples of some of my favorites so far. The soundtrack is far and away from just a bunch of "screeches" like the Kotaku article suggests it is - sure there are some REALLY BAD versions - but the good far outweighs the bad.
Fear of the Heavens - Remake
https://youtu.be/5t7bxFC5Sfo
Original
https://youtu.be/vhGDmBbQdsA
This may be sacrilegious, but I like the remake version better than the original. I know! I KNOW. But I'm a sucker for slow builds up to an extreme upswell, which this song does extremely well, and when it kicks it into high gear around 1:30 it just makes me think, "FUCK YEAH, SECRET OF MANA!"
Eternal Recurrence - Remake
https://youtu.be/Vd2KWWNnh3Y
Original
https://youtu.be/w4Kv3ZlvQLw
The remix is rather soothing, and I feel, quite a bit subtler than the original.
Did You See the Ocean - Remake
https://youtu.be/zlicjJHRS1A
Original
https://youtu.be/xrMDbcIxmXE
I will admit that it takes a little getting used to the beginning portion of the remix, as it almost sounds technoish, but when it kicks into gear around the minute mark, yeah it gets really good.
Fond Memories - Remake
https://youtu.be/5zFrozpJPbM
Original
https://youtu.be/YP1KQ-pW5yI
One of the few remixes I actually think is flat out better than the original. I like how the underlying note is akin to the original, but I like the softer tones, and when 1:32 kicks in is when I just fell in love with this one and solidified it as better than the original to me.
A Wish (snow theme) - Remake
https://youtu.be/b0BBhfVkS3I
Original
https://youtu.be/v6n1t2nMyds
Another one that I think the remake is better than the original. A Wish is one of my favorite tracks from the original, and somehow, they invoked an even more Wintry feel to the song than the original.
Just a few examples of some of my favorites so far. The soundtrack is far and away from just a bunch of "screeches" like the Kotaku article suggests it is - sure there are some REALLY BAD versions - but the good far outweighs the bad.
Are you slowly leveling up everything or just running straight through?
I don't kill everything i see, I've finish the game like 4 times before (snes version), so I never search where to go to advance, i think i'm probably a little underlevel.
Yes I am very much. It actually put my MHW play time on hold. Has the nostalgia factor with a different coat of paint and some improvements.
I am enjoying it tremendously. I'm not really that far with only 3-4 hours clocked in (just reached the Pandoria Ruins) but what I've played was really fun.
IKR?! It's like throwing a bunch of shit on the wall to see what sticks... But nothing sticks... Now it's just a runny shitstain on the wall.
Yeah, she's a little put off by hit boxes and ranged weapons. Which even I have trouble with on the remake. She was pretty blown away when I told her it was a remake of an old game that came out when I was 12 and showed it to her on the SNES Classic. She liked the PS4 one better though, gonna have to see if I can convince her to give it a shot.
It's my first time playing the game and it has been a blast playing with my brother
A few hours in, some of the new music is good, but too much of it is a downgrade or just strange sounding that I can't really justify keeping the new OST on. Otherwise the game is a really faithful remake of Secret of Mana to the point where it keeps old quirks of the game that could have easily been smoothed over. I don't really get some of the extreme reactions to it unless you've just never played the original.
Most of those are pretty good (not a fan of that new Did you See the Ocean), and if the entire soundtrack were up to that quality it would be fine. But the majority of tracks I've heard are offensively bad... I don't see any way the good outweighs the bad here. The quality is all over the place, and that's got to be really damn jarring while playing. I've been scrolling through and listening to them as they're uploaded and there are maybe two or three that I'd consider to be good, and even in those cases I'm not sure if I'd use them over the original; the soundtrack constantly goes out of its way to have a different tone or style, which is bizzare since this was one of the best game soundtracks ever made.
Take "I won't forget," for example. It starts off sounding great, then decides to just keep unnecessarily cutting from one instrument to another with wild volume shifts in a really weird and forced way... why not just play it as it was? Why did they think this would make the track better?
PS4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UPo-rq9t4c
Original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjfc8OVvav0
As an example of what was possible with this opportunity to remake the ost, here's what a youtuber did with this track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmfdSgw4Dtk
Way the fuck better. His "Into the Thick of it" also just makes the remake look like the trash it is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpTQporBDwo
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Yeah the town music generally leans towards bad to straight up awful. Except the Pandora one, it's quite a nice remix. Still would've preferred if they just did the music update Adventure of Mana style, super faithful to the original compositions, but with more modern instrumentation. Whoever decided to include the original soundtrack (albeit with higher quality sample rate by the sounds of it) did the remake a huge favour.
Ok, I didn't get this far in the Remake yet, but even I can admit that this is horrible for a remixed version. The OST of what I have played so far hasn't been horrible, but there are definitely some oddball mixes that I was very questionable.
Is anyone else having a lot of freezing going on? My roommate has had his game freeze twice now and lost like an hours worth of grinding weapon levels. :-/
Yes, and not the entire screen either. Just like the SNES version.
I did get crashes 2 or 3 times. I did lose 30-40 minutes of grinding and learned to go back and save often during weapon grinding sessions. I wish this was pointed out in reviews over hurr durr the graphics.
Yeah, freezing issues is way more important than the graphics lol
The freezing is bad, but this game auto saves each time you change screens. There should be no major loses of time due to this...
Does the game say anywhere each weapon's special qualities? Like the Sprite's Spear ballooning enemies. I can't find it.
Really? I totally missed that. I guess it's the bottom save file when you load your game?
Look at the weapon guide in the status window. It tells you what special effects are on the weapons.