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Monster Hunter: World |OT2| Cart Team Racing

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dark494

dark494

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Vuze said:
Does it make sense to spend Streamstones (Shards,regular, gleaming) for the Deco ritual or do you need lots of them later on?
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You need a few regular/gleaming ones for augments later, but you get a lot of them, so feel free to use them for deco rituals.
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Did kushala with a elderseal weapon and he still had the aura all the time. I hit him in the face and he has the aura all the time. I don't get it.

Anyway his broken materials being stuck inside the hurricanes he leaves behind is infuriating :(
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I felt like it was even worse without it though. Poison also apparently supresses it, so I go with poison and give my cat elderseal
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So basically, Elderseal works like a status effect. Each hit with an elderseal weapon applies some of the status and you build it up until it triggers. Each Elder Dragon that it works on (it has no effect on Nergigante, Zorah Magdaros, or Xeno'jiiva) has an ability that has multiple levels. What Elderseal does is that it lowers the current level of that ability, but does not negate it. This also means that, if Elderseal activates before the Elder Dragon has triggered its ability, it does nothing.

For Kirin, this is its Thunder Armor that hardens its body and enhances its thunder attacks. Elderseal will reduce the level of its armor, softening its body again.

For Kushala Daora, this is its Wind Aura. Apparently, Elderseal will also slow Daora down.

For Teostra, this is the Fire/Blast Aura. Teostra's Blast Aura is a new addition to MHW, which is visually depicted by a bunch of orange sparks around it, as opposed to the Fire Aura that has Teostra on fire. The Blast Aura causes Teostra to scatter its explosive scales with every action, and has been commonly perceived as some kind of "near death" mode. It is merely an alternate form of the Fire Aura. As an additional note, the condition for the use of the Super Nova is for the aura to reach its maximum level, and not the end of rage mode. Repeatedly applying Elderseal will prevent Teostra from using its Super Nova.

For Vaal Hazak, it diminishes the amount of Effluvium miasma it has stored. This weakens all of Vaal Hazak's miasma based attacks. Unlike the other Elder Dragons, Vaal Hazak's miasma doesn't work on a level basis, it seems that the game instead keeps track of the total miasma that's been generated and absorbed by Vaal Hazak.

So, it only specifically works on one ability that each Elder Dragon has, and does not negate the usage of that ability. It only weakens it.

The poison trick for Kushala is an ancient "feature" since the PS2 era. His wind aura is a "status", and you and monsters alike can only have 1 status applied at a time, so if you poison him he's stuck in poisoned status and can't apply his wind status
 
Vuze

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Thanks for the replies, exactly what I wanted to know. Also I swear Bagel just exists to fuck you up. Tempered Pink Ian cap investigation, super smooth run, tailcut shortly before she was ready. Cap her, the bomber drops his load while carving the tail, proceeds to scream twice in a row while I try to get the carve, then just leaves as the 20s time is off.
 
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Tenjin

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Vuze said:
Thanks for the replies, exactly what I wanted to know. Also I swear Bagel just exists to fuck you up. Tempered Pink Ian cap investigation, super smooth run, tailcut shortly before she was ready. Cap her, the bomber drops his load while carving the tail, proceeds to scream twice in a row while I try to get the carve, then just leaves as the 20s time is off.
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flash pods!
 
Earvin Infinity

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Just completed a flawless solo run against Tempered Kirin in 6'16 using the Light Bowgun. Got it to limp at 3'56, then I couldn't cause it to flinch on its way up to its sleeping area. I could possibly get this down to around 4'30 or lower with the optimized set I'm going for. Video will be up in a couple of hours.

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Wow the Elder Recess is one of the most beautiful areas in a game ever imo, especially those crystal like parts.
And my nightmare Uragaan is back....

I also finally befriended some of the Galajaka palico clan.

Nergigante..... I'm comin for ya ;)
Btw he/she/it is certainly one of the most coolest looking dragons ever.

Think i will farm highrank odogaron or sos multiplay zorah for high rank armour first.

What is the best choice alpha or bravo armour? I have seen that B has those gem slots is that preffered and better? And A has a hgher level skill or a extra skill.
 
JJShadow

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Squiddo said:
Wow the Elder Recess is one of the most beautiful areas in a game ever imo, especially those crystal like parts.
And my nightmare Uragaan is back....

I also finally befriended some of the Galajaka palico clan.

Nergigante..... I'm comin for ya ;)
Btw he/she/it is certainly one of the most coolest looking dragons ever.

Think i will farm highrank odogaron or sos multiplay zorah for high rank armour first.

What is the best choice alpha or bravo armour? I have seen that B has those gem slots is that preffered and better? And A has a hgher level skill or a extra skill.
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Alpha armor has an extra skill, beta pieces miss that extra skill but it has slots for decorations so you can customize them with the skill you want. If you are still early into HR I'd say go for Alpha sets as you don't have that many decorations yet
 

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I love how in this game you're barely good enough to fight 1 monster but out of nowhere 1 or 2 others can show up sneaking up on you with underground/flying attacks, stun you with their roar and then the first one finishes you off. Forget about fleeing cause there's a time limit.

Gonna finish the main quest and forget about grinding (black) diablos. This game's RNG isn't fun.
 
Yoshichan

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I'm lost where to go next with GS. I'm at the end of giant jawblade II (912 dmg) and every other route is elemental stuff.

What do?
 
Nameless

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Earplug lvl 5 is a game changer, especially when the only trick these endgame monsters seemingly have is an incredibly OP roar their sixth sense can pull out their ass on-demand. So satisfying to turn a cheap 'combo breakers' into free combos!
 
Mendrox

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Coyote Starrk said:
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Yeah my main issue is I keep flip flopping between 4 weapons.

- I love the safety of the Bow, but its horrendously repetitive.

- I love the unbreakable shield wall that is the lance, but I don't like the lack of mobility in the fight. (No roll mainly. Yes I know I don't need it. I just like the option)

- I love the sheer damage output of the Greatsword, but I feel like I spend 90% of my time chasing the monster or getting knocked out of my combo.

- I love the Dual Blades because NUMBERS, but I feel utterly useless against anything that won't stay still or that can fly.
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Be a man and take the hammer. Mobility, high damage and the best move in the game.
 
Kadzork

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After spending over 100 hours exclusively with the hammer and reaching HR55 while doing so I finally switched to the Charge Blade after spending some time with it in the 3DS version.

Holy shit I forgot how fun this weapon is to use. Made a mixed set that I saw posted here but tweaked it so it has Attack Boost x7, Artillery x3, Weakness Exploit x2 and then just various bits based on the current weapon in use.

If I can just get one Weakness Exploit gem then I would be pretty happy using this set for all the time it takes me to complete my Charge Blade collection.

Suddenly the climb to HR100 doesn't look so daunting if I'm now HR59 after spending a few hours on only my 2nd weapon.
 
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Yoshichan said:
I'm lost where to go next with GS. I'm at the end of giant jawblade II (912 dmg) and every other route is elemental stuff.

What do?
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Go for leviathan's fury if you don't have it yet and gear up to get 5 Handicraft 5 (charm, xeno gloves and death stench greaves) and weakness exploit. Then proceed to rampage across every map. This is the current set I'm using and damn is it fun watching everything melt with a timely TCS.

There's also the Nerg tree which ditches the Handicraft and goes balls out on damage skills.
 
deoee

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dark494 said:
12% attack boost when you have a non-elemental weapon equipped
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So it only applies to the Diablos tree most of the time?

Is it really worth using this over any other weapon? Reddit seems to go crazy about this gem combined with Diablos weapons just because of the true raw damage number.
 
cheesekao

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Kinsei said:
But it's just a Kirin that does a bit more damage than usual.
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I hardly consider eating 80% of my hp in one attack, 'a bit' more damage. It's not like my thunder resist is super low as well (-1 or -2 iirc). The thunderproof mantle only lasts so long and the vitality mantle might as well be a paper jacket. Kirin is also more annoying than it ever was.
 
dark494

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deoee said:
So it only applies to the Diablos tree most of the time?

Is it really worth using this over any other weapon? Reddit seems to go crazy about this gem combined with Diablos weapons just because of the true raw damage number.
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Elemental damage is very garbage except on multi-hit weapons (dual blades). Raw beats everything really. Works on status weapons too.
 
deoee

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dark494 said:
Elemental damage is very garbage except on multi-hit weapons (dual blades). Raw beats everything really. Works on status weapons too.
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But every monster is weak against an element.
Ice seems to be the best followed by dragon in regards of 2 star and 3 star monsters for it.
So why would I lets say use a CB with 1000 raw dmg but no element instead of a CB with 800 raw + 400 ice? The dmg should potentially be higher or on par with the elemental weapon against most monsters.

Or does the star ranking of monsters do not work like this:

x = no bonus
1* = minimal bonus
2* = half bonus
3* = full bonus

dmg?
 
Vuze

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Nice. Managed to downgrade the game to 1.04 and also managed to make it load my 1.05 save (the unpatched game didn't load the 1.05 save with a notification saying I've got to upgrade so I guess that goes for every mandatory title update for the game).
Good to know we're not completely at the mercy of the devs in regards to weapon balancing and glitches (:P). Obviously online functionality is disabled because the game double-checks stuff when connecting.
 
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Vuze said:
Nice. Managed to downgrade the game to 1.04 and also managed to make it load my 1.05 save (the unpatched game didn't load the 1.05 save with a notification saying I've got to upgrade so I guess that goes for every mandatory title update for the game).
Good to know we're not completely at the mercy of the devs in regards to weapon balancing and glitches (:P). Obviously online functionality is disabled because the game double-checks stuff when connecting.
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lmao
 
silva1991

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Just like with heavy bow gun, i'm also bad with light bow gun. I just can't kill enemies fast enough with them. At least Bazel's dai-onigashima looks cool.yay.
 
dark494

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deoee said:
But every monster is weak against an element.
Ice seems to be the best followed by dragon in regards of 2 star and 3 star monsters for it.
So why would I lets say use a CB with 1000 raw dmg but no element instead of a CB with 800 raw + 400 ice? The dmg should potentially be higher or on par with the elemental weapon against most monsters.

Or does the star ranking of monsters do not work like this:

x = no bonus
1* = minimal bonus
2* = half bonus
3* = full bonus

dmg?
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Let me give you an example of how elemental damage works. Let's look at Diablos

In-game, the field guide lists him at 3* weakness to Ice. That is his greatest weakness. I use switch axes, so let's look at the ice switch axe, Legia Frostreaver.

It has 300 ice element on it. Seems good? Well here's the thing with calculating elemental damage.
  1. Take the element on your weapon and divide by 10. My 300 ice element weapon has a base 30 raw ice element damage
  2. Diablos, although he's "weak" to ice, it just means that's the element he takes the most damage from. To be precise, he takes 25% damage from ice element, less from other ones (10% for thunder, 0% for fire, etc)
  3. My weapon has white sharpness. For elemental damage, the multiplier for white sharpness is 1.125
Put these 3 things together: 30 ice damage * 0.25 diablos weakness * 1.125 sharpness multiplier = 8 ice damage per hit (rounded down)

So yeah, that amazing 300 ice element weapon actually only deals an extra 8 damage to diablos, per hit. On something like dual blade and SnS, that hit a lot for less damage, an extra 8 damage per hit is pretty good. On let's say, great sword, that swing slowly and hit very infrequently for massive damage, 8 extra damage per hit is nothing.
 
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Man-is-Obsolete

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deoee said:
So it only applies to the Diablos tree most of the time?

Is it really worth using this over any other weapon? Reddit seems to go crazy about this gem combined with Diablos weapons just because of the true raw damage number.
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Seems like every Diablos weapon has a small amount of elemental attached to it. Or am I missing something.
 
dark494

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Man-is-Obsolete said:
Seems like every Diablos weapon has a small amount of elemental attached to it. Or am I missing something.
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The element on those weapons, and on some others, is hidden. When you see the element on a weapon grayed out and in ()'s, it's a hidden element. It is only active if you have the skill "Free Element". If you don't have any, then it is inactive and your weapon is treated as non-elemental. For guns, non-elemental means the gun can't shoot elemental bullets (there are some).
 
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dark494 said:
Let me give you an example of how elemental damage works. Let's look at Diablos

In-game, the field buide lists him at 3* weakness to Ice. That is his greatest weakness. I use switch axes, so let's look at the ice switch axe, Legia Frostreaver.

It has 300 ice element on it. Seems good? Well here's the thing with calculating elemental damage.
  1. Take the element on your weapon and divide by 10. My 300 ice element weapon has a base 30 raw ice element damage
  2. Diablos, although he's "weak" to ice, it just means that's the element he takes the most damage from. To be precise, he takes 25% damage from ice element, less from other ones (10% for thunder, 0% for fire, etc)
  3. My weapon has white sharpness. For elemental damage, the multiplier for white sharpness is 1.125
Put these 3 things together: 30 ice damage * 0.25 diablos weakness * 1.125 sharpness multiplier (rounded down) = 8 ice damage per hit

So yeah, that amazing 300 ice element weapon actually only deal an extra 8 damage to diablos, per hit. On something like dual blade and SnS, that hit a lot for less damage, an extra 8 damage per hit is pretty good. On let's say, great sword, that swing slowly and hit very infrequently for massive damage, 8 extra damage per hit is nothing.
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Ouch... Thank you for the explanation
It's sad that this is explained so poorly in-game.

One would think that high element numbers roughly translate to higher overall dmg at least against a monster weak against said element.
But even with a weakness only giving like 4% dmg of the value is insane.

So the general idea is:

fast or multi-hit weapons (DB, Bow, Bowguns (?) ) are fine with elemental dmg?

But still Diablos Bow + elementless seems to be one of the top tier bow choices for dmg output...?
 
dark494

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deoee said:
Ouch... Thank you for the explanation
It's sad that this is explained so poorly in-game.

One would think that high element numbers roughly translate to higher overall dmg at least against a monster weak against said element.
But even with a weakness only giving like 4% dmg of the value is insane.

So the general idea is:

fast or multi-hit weapons (DB, Bow, Bowguns (?) ) are fine with elemental dmg?

But still Diablos Bow + elementless seems to be one of the top tier bow choices for dmg output...?
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Dual blade, sword and shield, bowguns, they're good for elemental damage because they're fast and hit often. Some weapons have certain "modifiers" towards element to make it not so terrible, but element still loses. Things like switch axe and charge blade elemental phials, the elemental crit skill adjustment (varies by weapon type, but same thing, fast weapons gain greater bonus from this skill),

Pure raw-wise, diablos weapons win. Just need to account for their negative affinity, and their sharpness when comparing to other weapons. Sometimes certain weapons have utility that you prefer, like sleep, paralysis, blast, poison, etc.

Edit: Also slots on weapons, factor that in too
 
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Ultimadrago

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Pila said:
Let's talk about lifepowder!

I frequently hunt with random people and I never go on a quest without three lifepowders, I love saving people from the cart and I'm saving my ass as well, we're not getting things done if some guy just insta-dies.

So yesterday I was playing with some Japanese players and one of them had issues with Diab HR, the cart was on fire lol I used my three powds but we failed anyway. The other two players were pretty good at the game, beating the monster easily but they never tried to save the day, seems like they had a "git gud or die" mentality ^^ I'm sure they knew about lifepowder, those were experienced hunters, it's not like they were clueless.

(side note, playing with people from Japan is finally a thing, awesome, best randoms ever)

What about you guys? Do you care about lifepowder?
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Life Power, Hardshell Powder, Demon Powder. I use them all!
 
LiK

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I played against Tempered Diablos and Black Diablos (separate sessions) last night. Let me tell you guys, I think I won the cart racing battle.
 

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Im loving the game but i have no patience to be mixing armours to get the bonus skills or farming monsters for that one piece, i would really like this game was like bloodborne on this kind of settings.
 
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