Pure speculation here, but I think they know exactly what they're up to. In the case of Netflix, not simulcasting Stateside might be just them using other countries as guinea pigs before investing fully or unnecessarily. They still believe they can treat anime like any of their other shows; as long as it's an original or not available anywhere else, people will still tune in as much as countries with simulcast. They're now collecting the numbers to compare and study us.
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Violet Evergarden |OT| It's like Born on the 4th of July meets Empire of Corpses and The Postman
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Doesn't Funimation do dubs for Cruncyroll shows? And in any case you didn't establish Netflix as consumer friendly. You just tried to take down CR despite Netflix regressing consumer rights for simulcasting. Netfflix will be consumer friendly again when they stop regressing consumer rights that were offered by their competition. It's as simple as that.
Just popped open a recent Crunchyroll video (episode 1 of How to Keep a Mummy) and it has Arabic, French, German, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish subtitles in addition to English.
Has Crunchyroll ever been that focused on the global market though? I always thought it was a largely US thing (especially compared to Netflix)
Yeah, Funimation does a good chunk of the dubs for Crunchyroll-streamed anime (with a few exceptions, like Viz Media doing the JoJo dubs instead of Funimation). Still weird how Netflix has the dub ready to go yet won't let it on Netflix in the States.
Your mistake is thinking that Crunchyroll is a competitor for Netflix. They're not. Netflix doesn't even think of Crunchyroll. There is no regressing of consumer rights here, get off your high horse.
They are so much bigger than other websites that they don't have to consider them, yet they don't have the infrastructure to simulcast like they do? That's not a good look.
I mean, I get it. I like Netflix, but I want to expect better from a big streaming platform like them.
While a US-based company, Crunchyroll does have an interest in global markets. In addition to the multiple languages for their subtitles that I mentioned above, Crunchyroll has Twitter accounts in Arabic, German, Spanish, etc. and recently began rolling out dubs in Spanish, Portuguese, German, and French. Crunchyroll's international interests seem to be focused on Latin America, Europe, and the Middle East, and I don't think they have much of a presence in Asia, which is why duckroll, being from Singapore, wouldn't have any affection towards the company.
It has nothing to do with infrastructure? It's simulcasting fine everywhere else. It has all the dubs and subs done. No one who even thinks about this for a moment will conclude this is about "infrastructure" at all. There are clearly other factors at play here. Screaming about "consumer rights" or whatever is childish.
I'd rather you didn't address complaints against this in such a derogatory way as "childish". Especially since it's a situation where things might get better if they decide to listen.
Whether they decide to listen or not will depend on their consideration of feedback from consumers which they feel are in good faith, along with whatever other business considerations they have that resulted in this situation. No one is saying Americans shouldn't complain about it or be upset, it's not an ideal situation. Suggesting that is some deliberate anti-consumer thing or that they are trying to regress consumer rights is just silly and ridiculous, and I will call it childish if I think people are behaving in a childish way. Don't see how it's any different from "lazy devs" which is apparently not allowed on this forum because we are supposed to be very sensitive to the feelings of commercial entities feeding us our entertainment!
The reason Netflix in the US isn't simulcasting this is because they don't do simulcasts. Binge watching is their thing, so they're sitting on it until they can release the whole season. It's a bullshit marketing ploy.
They don't care about the regular anime viewers who are upset by this. They're banking on the casual viewer who hears about this from social media.
They don't care about the regular anime viewers who are upset by this. They're banking on the casual viewer who hears about this from social media.
But they never did simulcasts in other countries either (except japan) and now they do.
Why Violet Evergarden isn't simulcasted in some countries despite subs and dubs existing is a mystery to me, but I don't think it's as easy as saying they don't do simulcasts.
I watched the first episode yesterday and had the exact same impression about the humor. Felt very out of place. Visually, is amazing [even tho sometimes it is a little bit too much CG in my opinion]. It also had more moe and fanservice that I was expecting judging by the synopsis and the arts I had seen before [like the young lady that appears by the end of the episode - I thought it would have less extravagant character designs judging by the other characters like the Major, Violet, the lady of the mansion etc]. Anyway, looking forward to it - and also I hope its plot strengthens more, even though I was interested in the Major's whereabouts.
I presume the "don't do simulcasts" comments weren't supposed to be exclusively about anime, which Netflix certainly haven't done outside Japan, but for programming in general - outside of the US, they do weekly releases of things like Rick & Morty and Star Trek Discovery already. This is apparently completely antithetical how they want to manage their streams in the US, even if it isn't in other territories.
It's certainly worth complaining about, as I've certainly got the impression that the reason they are stream Violet anywhere weekly is due the fact that parts of the company are actually listening to people on this stuff, but... *shrug*
(That being said, as someone from the UK who is used to having to juggle more streaming subscriptions to get less content than in the US, and where a subscription service announcing a show they don't have UK licensing for has often meant we won't get it ever... I kind of have limited sympathy over something you at least know you will have access to at some point)
Actually Netflix does simulcast all the time outside of the US. Better Call Saul, Star Trek Discovery, Riverdale, etc.
Not to pick on you, but whenever someone has complained about not being able to watch Violet Evergarden other territories can (and other territories other than US are affected by this FYI), you have been pretty aggressive:
I don't think anyone here is suggesting Netflix shouldn't be simulcasting it in other territories where it can. People are simply asking why they aren't simulcasting in the US, AU, and other affected territories or letting someone else simulcast until they get it on their own service? I would hope you would also question why you can't simulcast anime when other regions can. I understand it is convenient and best for you. No one is suggesting that should be taken away.
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man, production values alone kind of make this a must watch
and I would replace The Postman with the BBC programme Lark Rise to Candleford (young girl in early modern european nation gets job at post office w/quirky coworkers), though that show was pre WW1-era
and I would replace The Postman with the BBC programme Lark Rise to Candleford (young girl in early modern european nation gets job at post office w/quirky coworkers), though that show was pre WW1-era
Watched the first episode on Netflix. Really like the setting. Visuals remind me of some Ghibli films and Valkyria Chronicles. Like the show is really pretty.
Dub is pretty good. Don't recognise everyone, but Violet is totally Erika Harlacher (Ann from Persona 5).
Dub is pretty good. Don't recognise everyone, but Violet is totally Erika Harlacher (Ann from Persona 5).
I am really impressed with the first episode. For once the german voiceacting in an anime is great, I believe Violet is voiced by the same actress who voiced Arya in Game of Thrones.
Beautiful music, art, designs und animations. I really like the characters and settings so far.
The waiting for the next episodes will be painful.
Beautiful music, art, designs und animations. I really like the characters and settings so far.
The waiting for the next episodes will be painful.
I thought the first episode was...not great. They kept reusing the same flashback, and showing people gripping their hands, because I can never tell if a character has emotions unless they tighten their grip. Couple that with some really off-tone comedy bits and fanservice, and yea, I dunno if this'll be right for me. Hyouka stays winning.
I'm cautious about this show. Then again I've gotten cautious about anything anime related haha! I'd check TVTropes to see if there is anything that I would hate but this show only has a short entry on that site.
Reminds me of Gunslinger Girl, except that the instructors arent assholes and there was an actual war going on. Good enough to keep my interest, but showing bloodshed from the first episode already, takes away from the emotional impact later on. I wished they'd show such scenes later, when the bond between her and her superior were better developed.
Episode 2 was not so great. The animation and art is still really good but the weak writing feels much more exposed here when the direction can't do the heavy lifting. Whoever directed this episode clearly isn't as capable. I liked the ending scene, but a lot of the stuff throughout the episode felt flimsy. There's this weird feeling that everyone is acting out a script because I don't really see why most of them would say the things they do or act the way they do other than to create the exact contrived situations the script wanted. It kinda went really quickly from "it's nice to see her training on a new job" to "this is the worst run business ever wtf" lol.
Episode 02
More like violent Evergarden am I right ohoho sometimes my brilliant wordplay amazes even myself.
More like violent Evergarden am I right ohoho sometimes my brilliant wordplay amazes even myself.
I think it was pretty obvious to everybody from the first episode that Gilbert had died. The question now is, why is Hodgins lying about it? The only thing I can imagine right now is that he's hoping Violet can eventually develop emotional maturity enough to withstand the truth, and that working as a ghostwriter will aid that development. If so, the pace had better pick up soon if she's going to get to that point by the end of the season.
I'm told the majority of episode 2 was anime-original, so for the story elements you'll have to blame Reiko Yoshida on series composition - personally I thought the ep did a lot of important work in fleshing out the side characters before diving into the more episodic stories though. Haruka Fujita, the episode director and storyboarder, did some outstanding work on this episode that I think will be overlooked because of how go-for-broke episode 1 was. The scene toward the end with Hodgins in particular was really well-staged.
On another note, the score is still absolutely incredible. It was a great surprise to see episode 2 get so many new original cues, and I hope this keeps going for the rest of the series.
Still undecided after the first two episodes. The show is stunning to look at and the OST is great, but the content, well......
This is how I read the title initially. Only when watching the first episode did I notice I was wrong! Though with her past and how she behaved to a client, I wonder if that name and word pun is intentional by the creators.
Episode 03
You can't just beat on a disable person like that, no matter how much of a drunken asshole they're being.
You can't just beat on a disable person like that, no matter how much of a drunken asshole they're being.
Episode 05
Very cute, very shoujo, and as always, beautifully animated. Buuut, how not to be at least a little creeped out when you find out that the age gap of the shipps is a 10 year old one, with the main character being only 14 years old? :( [I mean, it is understandable that 14yos would have crushes in older people, but the reverse, uhh...]
One nice point was the ending about her war killing machine past coming up again.It may lead to interesting plots from now on.
Very cute, very shoujo, and as always, beautifully animated. Buuut, how not to be at least a little creeped out when you find out that the age gap of the shipps is a 10 year old one, with the main character being only 14 years old? :( [I mean, it is understandable that 14yos would have crushes in older people, but the reverse, uhh...]
One nice point was the ending about her war killing machine past coming up again.It may lead to interesting plots from now on.
Episode 8 ugh this show is losing me
This episode kinda broke my suspension of disbelief. The war orphan who is super adept at murdering soldiers, can fight like Black Widow, gets treated like a literal weapon of war and has no concept of emotions except when she does. Next thing we find out that Violet is an android and the whole story was a prologue to Nier Automata or something.
The plot is just.. too all over the place. I have no idea what the story is trying to tell me.
Is it about the horrors of war? Well not really the war doesn't look very scary at all
Is it about emotions? It's all too hamfisted and deus ex machina for that
Is it about love? God I hope not the love story part is starting to creep me out
The plot is just.. too all over the place. I have no idea what the story is trying to tell me.
Is it about the horrors of war? Well not really the war doesn't look very scary at all
Is it about emotions? It's all too hamfisted and deus ex machina for that
Is it about love? God I hope not the love story part is starting to creep me out
"While the initial function of these Auto Memory Dolls is only to generate voices into text, a second group of people created a company that rented out beautiful talented women who, while having the same function as the original Auto Memory Dolls, also can perform military-related tasks."
First time seeing this thread, but only in Japan would the natural narrative conclusion to beautiful androids being rented out not be for sex work, but as military droids.
First time seeing this thread, but only in Japan would the natural narrative conclusion to beautiful androids being rented out not be for sex work, but as military droids.
Yeah, it's unfortunate that they didn't call them typewriters straight out either. Instead we get auto memories. I don't know about the pre-release blurbs, but he's going by wikipedia which isn't necessarily always accurate. Even the wikia, that's more in-depth, did a shit job explaining it and whoever wrote it is probably watching the show.
Well, there was an auto memory doll in that it was basically a speech to text machine that typed out someone's words.
Then for some reason it because a job that people did as a form of ghost writing... and only women can do it. lol
That's why I compare this show a lot to Aria, which has a similar set up in terms of an odd job that only women can do and the main character learning her job is the basis for all of the world building and plot.
Then for some reason it because a job that people did as a form of ghost writing... and only women can do it. lol
That's why I compare this show a lot to Aria, which has a similar set up in terms of an odd job that only women can do and the main character learning her job is the basis for all of the world building and plot.
Episode 7
Really nice episode. I think this, along with the princess episode Yamada directed are my favorite episodic stories so far. Charming, sweet, and the balance of emotional and fanciful is matched really well and elevated by the art and production values.
Episode 8
Wow they finally did a full flashback arc of the war. This was well done and the action was pretty cool. KyoAni should do more of this sort of action stuff and less of the dumb over-chuuni stuff. I really dig the direction here.
Episode 9 (END????)
HOLY SHIT. Takemoto has totally redeemed himself for the earlier episode he did which I felt was rather weak. This here is the master at work. This episode ties together everything the series has tried to build - both successfully and unsuccessfully, and uses it all to drive one powerful thematic climax. Everything was PERFECT this week, from the first frame to the final frame. It felt like a complete series finale that has almost nothing left to say. 10/10
So.... why does Netflix say there are 4 more eps? Lol.
Really nice episode. I think this, along with the princess episode Yamada directed are my favorite episodic stories so far. Charming, sweet, and the balance of emotional and fanciful is matched really well and elevated by the art and production values.
Episode 8
Wow they finally did a full flashback arc of the war. This was well done and the action was pretty cool. KyoAni should do more of this sort of action stuff and less of the dumb over-chuuni stuff. I really dig the direction here.
Episode 9 (END????)
HOLY SHIT. Takemoto has totally redeemed himself for the earlier episode he did which I felt was rather weak. This here is the master at work. This episode ties together everything the series has tried to build - both successfully and unsuccessfully, and uses it all to drive one powerful thematic climax. Everything was PERFECT this week, from the first frame to the final frame. It felt like a complete series finale that has almost nothing left to say. 10/10
So.... why does Netflix say there are 4 more eps? Lol.
Just watched episode 10. I was just going with this series out of curiosity, but this episode just caught me off guard.
Extremely beautiful, with an awesome idea that was giving the point of view to Ann. In this episode, I feel like the beauty of the animation just synched with the emotions, the music and the plot to create something truly memorable. Some may think it has a predictable plot (even though I personally didn't see it coming), but to me, this is one of the best anime episodes I ever watched.
Extremely beautiful, with an awesome idea that was giving the point of view to Ann. In this episode, I feel like the beauty of the animation just synched with the emotions, the music and the plot to create something truly memorable. Some may think it has a predictable plot (even though I personally didn't see it coming), but to me, this is one of the best anime episodes I ever watched.
Yeah ep10 was really outstanding. The plot was "predictable" but that's not the point. The execution was emotionally satisfying and it was a really strong story conceptually. The series really needed more stories like this, and I hope the upward trend in the second half keeps up. I thought Ep9 was a 10/10, but ep10 was easily an 11.