So Yamcha simply can't do the aerial 2H juggle right? The universal BNB does not apply to him?
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Dragon Ball FighterZ |OT| Heaven or HFIL
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Yeah, if it was positive, then the attacker would stay advantageous. -2 means for two frames, the attacker cannot do anything because they are recovering.There are a ton of write-ups and videos on frame data that can explain it much better than I can. Here's one I just looked up that seems ok
Deflect comes out in 1 frame. If there are any gaps in your opponent's pressure, it will get them off of you.
Vanish is also an option, and it is completely safe if they block it. It does cost a bar, but it's very versatile and will get you out of the corner in a pinch if needed.
You can also guard cancel while you are blocking by pressing forward+assist for one bar of meter while your assist is not on cooldown
If all you're interested in is the story mode, it's not worth it. The best part of the story is the special character interactions, which will only be funny/meaningful if you are a fan of the show. The majority of the story is fighting a shit load of brain dead AI characters over and over with very little story in between. Then to actually finish it you play through the same scenario 3 times basically with different groups of characters.
Yes, positive means their attack recovery finishes quicker than your block stun recovery. They can continue their offence and force you to keep blocking (if it's a true blockstring).
-2 means they have 2 frames of recovery before they can do something else, which is generally pretty safe. Some characters can jab others out of the air and even get a combo after blocking SD.
Note that Sparking makes you positive even if your SD is blocked, meaning you can continue to apply pressure.
Once you're done losing, you need to accept that you're gonna take a few more Ls.
Just hold down back, and keep a careful eye on what they're doing. Don't think about making your move; just watch them and their assists.
At first it feels impossible, but soon you'll be able to recognise overheads and predict when the assist will come in to try and bamboozle you (when to stand block).
Once you can block everything, you take the inevitable Dragon Rush, eat a combo and start over. At this point, learn to predict the DR and counter that.
At some point, you can start working Deflect into your defence, as this will push the opponent (and their assist) off you, giving you space and sometimes a window of counter attack opportunity.
Be careful though, because while it comes out on the 1st frame, it has a lot of recovery, so if people see it coming they can punish it hard.
Basically, try to stay calm and get a feel for when it's "your turn". If your turn never seems to come, try to create openings with Deflect or see if your character has any unique counter moves (like Nappa's 214S).
Is the story mode long? As in the 9 hours mentioned on HLTB?
It probably won't be for me, but I figured I'd ask before deciding. Thanks.
Took me 11 hours, yeah. I imagine SM has near to 0 value for someone who's not a fan of the series though.
It took me 13 hours to finish, getting most of the optional cutscenes. Typical finish time seems to be 8-10, you could probably get it done in 4-5 if you skip cutscenes and make a beeline for the bosses.
Okay. I'll pass then. I thought maybe it would be a fun fighter to play and beat in a couple or few hours, but I don't think I'd enjoy it for that length of time or be interested in the story.
It's too bad the library won't let you cancel holds when they become available, else I would. If I get in there before they expire I'll tell them to delete them and let the next person have them, but I live a bit of a drive away. If not the holds will time out in 4-5 days.
Enjoy the game, guys
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So I found this extremely useful doc on one of the character Discord channels
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...WL5P4t5iySyhq618Shyho6gwtU/htmlview?sle=true#
It has a notation guide, frame data, hitboxes, and combos for all characters.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...WL5P4t5iySyhq618Shyho6gwtU/htmlview?sle=true#
It has a notation guide, frame data, hitboxes, and combos for all characters.
At this point this video might as well be added to the OP. This and the max combo vid are required viewing
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As a scrub aspiring to surpass scrubness im happy i hit Friezaclan today. Gunna hit super Saiyan someday too
I switch between Krillin, Trunks and Beerus as my middle guy a lot. I'm better with Krillin than the other two but I love the ridiculous Level 3's the other two have.
Ending a match with Beerus's Level 3 and seeing Goku Black get hakai'd is worth losing 9/10 matches sometimes.
Starting to feel like my main team would be better if I swapped the order and made it Yamcha/Piccolo/Black instead of Piccolo on point. The whole original point of this was to make Piccolo as optimized as possible, but I noticed some skeevy shit with it's lack of cross-up protection and Yamcha's ability to end everything in sliding knockdown, as well as his cross-up rekka. Yamcha is kind of a meter hog if I want to do anything more than 2500 damage though, so I dunno if he'd be a good choice for a battery since Piccolo needs it even more than he does to convert anything. I'll probably keep him second to convert meterless off of Piccolo's grab, 6M, and cross-up elbow, but it's food for thought regardless.
As someone new to fighting games who has put a lot of time into practice mode, my biggest complaint is that even in tutorial mode the tooltips showing what buttons to press don't change when you are on the right hand side.
I get it, you just do the opposite of what you would nornally do, but it would be a lot easier for noobs if it just said what you should press.
I get it, you just do the opposite of what you would nornally do, but it would be a lot easier for noobs if it just said what you should press.
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I'll be popping these on the OT under Guides later today. ^^
going from LML to MLL feels dreadful to me. I got instantly used to do LML, feels good and looks good, but doing the M before feels wrong and makes combos less fun. I guess I will get used to it.
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That isn't really the problem, it's been like that all the time (virtually) and Fighterz commands aren't complicated, but the problem is the prompts showing as the platform buttons, rather than LMHS notation and they don't change even if you map your buttons differently.
I'll be honest: Last night's NLBC made me view the game a lot more positively. Very excited to try some stuff now. Hopefully the meta keeps convincing me and wanting to bring me back after the negative initial impressions.
MLL is harder to land, but it's worth it for the damage. I'm sure you'll get used to it soon.
For characters with multiple hit air L attacks, like Ginyu and Gotenks, you can get away with just M, then all hits of L.
This might be the 98'er in me, but I hate how tech is shared and captured now a days...
Is PS4 the platform with the best or worst players?
Also, I'm glad that I feel like I'm starting to improve after practicing and continuing doing ranked battles. I've reached the Android rank and beating yellow squared folks is actually something possible now, if still quite difficult sometimes.
Also, I'm glad that I feel like I'm starting to improve after practicing and continuing doing ranked battles. I've reached the Android rank and beating yellow squared folks is actually something possible now, if still quite difficult sometimes.
Thought so. Do they also have to be for specific battles, or will the scenes happen eventually as long as you've got them in a team?
It's for certain the platform with the most players so you'll get the kitchen sink of good and bad ones
I'm a huge fan of the series and I've probably only put 2 hours into the story mode, it' BAD!!!! The presentation of the characters is so stiff. I'm not sure why that is. The overall story is very DBZ which is fine if you're a fan but the brain dead A.I. and the and the overall amount of fodder fights to pad out the length is insane.
They took the concept from Budokai 2 but none of the fun of that board game style. Clearly the resources went to the mechanics, combat and visuals with barely anyone put anything in the story mode. I'm currently treating the story mode as training grounds to try to master some of the combos I've done in the tutorial mode.
But boy the fights are epic against real opponents though.
Cool, thanks for the explanation!
Hearing Nappa ask Gotenks how to go supers saiyan in the villain arc and watching Goku and Gohan talk bout fusion as Gohan talks about how cool the poses in the dance are is pure gold. I will hear nothing else.
I'm going to be as nice as possible by saying it's god awful.
A few decent conversations though.
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Question: how does one vanish but the kick doesn't come out ? I've been seeing people doing combos with sparking and they do a regular combo with a hit that takes them to the other side of the screen . They vanish but they don't kick and they can continue the combo regularly . Help ?:(
It's a feature of Sparking Blast. It allows you to perform a Vanish without that kick--you just hold the buttons, and it'll just do the teleport.
Between the long waits in ranked, the people who have good ranks (ie 160-20) that decide to quit at the last minute, and the light BP gain, I'm probably not going to bother going for the Majin rank.
The good thing is the delay was consistently in the 2-4 range, which is really nice. Some matches spiked up randomly, but then it went back down.
Finally got a chance to play with a friend in a ring match, and it was way better than waiting in ranked.
The good thing is the delay was consistently in the 2-4 range, which is really nice. Some matches spiked up randomly, but then it went back down.
Finally got a chance to play with a friend in a ring match, and it was way better than waiting in ranked.
The "no rooms found" error might be good ol' NAT related. After trying what felt like literally everything with a friend for the past few days, we did connection tests and my NAT type was 2 and his was 3. He changed his NAT to open, and the next time we tried it worked fine.
Not sure if it's a stable fix but anyone that's desperate to play with friends might wanna try it.
Not sure if it's a stable fix but anyone that's desperate to play with friends might wanna try it.
I'd put Goku Black second or third myself, but he can work in any position realistically. Blue Vegeta is fine for first or second.
Third character is entirely up to you. I think Cell, Vegeta, and Trunks are safe additions to most teams though.
You know I did originally just put Vegeta on my team for his assist, but I'm actually getting pretty good with him.
One of these things is not like the other in terms of damage output, ease of use and ability to get in.
Hint, it's trunks.
Those two work well with pretty much any other character, so I'd say you are free to pick anyone. Black works in any position, he is just that good, but vegeta blue would be better on mid than anywhere else (though he can anchor just fine).
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you should have scrolled up more in that thread and seen some of the crazy Brietbart-tier shit they were doing
I dont wanna derail this thread but yeah saw that and yeeeeesh. One of the later ones, "Y black panther gotta be politicized" is daft to say the least.
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Any big tournaments happen in the Vancouver area?
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