Have you heard the good news about Contradiction, friend?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/373390/Contradiction__Spot_The_Liar/
A genuinely fantastic game.
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Why don't we have a "low-poly PS1 inspired" games craze as we have pixel-art SNES/MD/NES?
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Have you heard the good news about Contradiction, friend?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/373390/Contradiction__Spot_The_Liar/
A genuinely fantastic game.
Particularly I think its going to far. Low poly but with all the modern things like clean textures and smooth framerate would be nicer IMO.
Something like Sonic Mania. It's like the Megadrive game visuals but it have so many layers that the game wouldn't run on Megadrive.
And well, good luck on your efforts! Hope it turns something great.
Personally, it would be going too far - especially since at the time I played on PC, which didn't have that problem. Although I guess nothing stops you from adding it as an option. Not sure if BallisticNG has an option for that, but they generally are pretty good with customizing how authentic PS1-like of an experience you want.
Also, good luck! What are you going for, gameplay-wise?
One mimics the best of it's style, the other would be mimicking the worst.
Asking for PS1 era 3D is like asking for Colecovision or Atari sprite work instead or NES of SNES/Genesis.
Asking for PS1 era 3D is like asking for Colecovision or Atari sprite work instead or NES of SNES/Genesis.
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This.
Those early 2D game are incredibly rough as well. Rough to look at and rough to play as well. The same is true of the 32 bit era (outside of the 2D games which are amazing and have aged perfectly). The Dreamcast is the first 3D system where it just finally worked. Anything before that is iffy..
Point taken! If I ever find an easy way to do it, I might add it as an option for fun :)
Don't be mad, but I'm planning on making a walking sim of sorts; however it's mostly an investigation so I can get back to working on my real game... :)
I guess that's low poly of sorts, though I'd say it's relying a lot more on pixel art - it's just that the environments are pixel art :)
Looks cool so far.
Although there's some irony in making a pixelish game in UE4. :-P
yooo this is some good shitAs people have already mentioned, I think retaining the general limitations of lower polygon count and lower resolution unfiltered textures but enhancing the visuals with something closer to a "beefed up" PS1 is what most people are talking about here and would like to see more of.
Which is basically something like NDS level graphics rendered in a much higher resolution (shamelessly posting Krammy's wonderful gifs):
The Wizard of Oz: Beyond the Yellow Brick Road
Solatorobo: Red the Hunter
Phantasy Star 0
Golden Sun: Dark Dawn
Nanostray 2
Avalon Code
So I'm going to be helping with a game that's going for a low-poly, low-fidelity art style (though more late 90's/early 2000's PC game a-la Unreal 1 or Thief). Definitely seeing this thread as inspiration :thumbsup:
Eh, low-poly models is its own sort of discipline
You have less to work with to get a good-looking silhouette
And you have to paint in more details, including baked-in lighting and shadows, which I imagine is tough to get right unless you have the fundamentals of 2d painting and coloring down (which I know you do Tsam, so yay)
Sure, still probably takes much less time than a modern day character made from a retopologized scuplt, with several material sets, but still hard to nail the look just right.
Phantasy Star 0
I deeply regret not playing more PS0 while the servers were still active.
Also that Wizard of Oz game has been on my want list practically forever. I need to track down a copy someday.
Yeah, the NDS had some really great looking games considering the limitations, especially when paired with good pixel art textures to make the polygons pop out.
Those late 90s PC games often had a lot of resized photos, often along with all of the artifacts from older resizing algorithms and bad picture quality, but it gave that gritty, sometimes a bit surrealist look to those games, with door and wall ornaments weirdly stretched and placed in curious places. I'm only now kinda getting a bit of nostalgia for that generation of games, played through Quake II and its expansions and loved every bit of it, playing with unfiltered textures and all.
Wish you the best of luck with the game!
I don't think I was even aware of the Wizard of Oz game until I saw those gifs, beautiful stuff.
No thanks, Sega Model 1 and Model 2 games would be bettern source of inspiration for graphics.
I was hoping someone would mention Sega Model 1/2 stuff in this thread. There's some good examples throughout that have taken this direction and it's fucking great today. Some examples in one place I remember from a while back:
I would argue that mobile provided and prevented this from resurfacing. A ton of mobile games had to dress up low poly 3D art for years before the nostalgia for it would have peaked, whereas sprite nostalgia was peaking during the XBL/PSN indie rush of the mid-late 2000s.
Now I'd say low poly throwbacks that evoke the 90s still work, but you have to lose the poor camera work, the clunky controls, the low quality textures and texture streaming, etc etc to make it not feel awful. And in the process you lose a lot of authenticity. In lieu of that, I think most developers looking to make throwbacks use the style as an influence rather than a ruleset.
For instance, Stardew Valley can look/feel excellent and still seem like it could have been done on an SNES, whereas A Hat In Time is evocative of PS1/N64 era platformers but obviously could never have been done on one of those consoles.
Now I'd say low poly throwbacks that evoke the 90s still work, but you have to lose the poor camera work, the clunky controls, the low quality textures and texture streaming, etc etc to make it not feel awful. And in the process you lose a lot of authenticity. In lieu of that, I think most developers looking to make throwbacks use the style as an influence rather than a ruleset.
For instance, Stardew Valley can look/feel excellent and still seem like it could have been done on an SNES, whereas A Hat In Time is evocative of PS1/N64 era platformers but obviously could never have been done on one of those consoles.
Wait what? If you use motion capture techniques or high quality animation, then in motion, a low poly model will move the same as a high poly equivalent. Unless you mean anything less than an animated wrinkle map is just garbage at this point :D
Never in my life I've felt such a disconnect with someone else, not even when watching people eat live cockroaches in documentaries.
Just so that we're clear, you're saying that this:
... looks worse than this?
Could be, but NES was my first console and I'd love to see this style make a comeback.
Oh, wow, I hadn't heard about Vaccine but it looks great. I have a lot of nostalgia for the N64/PS1 aesthetic so I'll have to give it a try when it comes out.
^ btw, the main problem with 2D games is perspective. It kills immersion completely.
All pixel art is amazing and all low poly art is garbage, got it.
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edit: btw, I just realized that Tearaway is basically "low poly" game too.
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and Parappa the Rapper
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Very hard to tell if this is a parody.
I looooove well done pixel art, but I'd be down for some good PS1 looking games. Things like Tearaway don't count, I want that grit. I don't think it would be any easier to pull that off than pixels because some PS1 games look a million times worse than others. Also the 2D style for Indies is getting a little stale, if low poly is so much easier they should try it out.
Sure it's been mentioned many times already...
Many ps1 era, early 3d games look terrible. It's just not a good look.
Pixel/sprite art looks good, not just for the nostalgia.
Many ps1 era, early 3d games look terrible. It's just not a good look.
Pixel/sprite art looks good, not just for the nostalgia.
Yes, the same nonsense generalization has been mentioned many times already. Many more times to come no doubt!
Pixel art has aged better, simple as that. Timeless look to it while early 3D is mostly good for nostalgia.
That said, there are some really cool looking low poly projects in the works out there.
I'm sure as more devs will have come up during the PS1/N64 era, they'll create more games that harken back to that era.
Pixel art still has a lot of advantages over low poly 3D games and you'll see more games done in that style accordingly.
That said, there are some really cool looking low poly projects in the works out there.
I'm sure as more devs will have come up during the PS1/N64 era, they'll create more games that harken back to that era.
Pixel art still has a lot of advantages over low poly 3D games and you'll see more games done in that style accordingly.
What I want is the updated Starfox game from Wario Ware Smooth Moves, but turned into a full recreation of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwJHpEprIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEwJHpEprIw
You should try 'Her Story'. Spectacular little game that entirely consists of tons of live action clips, where you naturally try to slowly but surely figure out what's actually going on, what the mystery even is, and all the twists and turns, 100% at your own pace and 100% based on your level of deductive reasoning. You could go for hours till you figure everything out or even just a few minutes. Very, very cool concept.
Pixel art is an entirely different artform and branched into more complex and beautiful forms overtime.
Early era 3D models is just the early era of our current way of making video games.
The lack of appeal is mostly because artistically there is very little reason to go back because there were no fundamentals we can build off that style, the only format for a game using that style would be to make games based off nostalgia, or trying to set a tone of a time period. (Not a video game, but look at Petscop for example).
I grew up in this era and in all retrospect I should have nostalgia for it. But when I think back 20 years ago I imagine the game's looking more what they do now then they actually did. Case and point, the style only left the impression of what is to come, rather then what it was for its time.
Early era 3D models is just the early era of our current way of making video games.
The lack of appeal is mostly because artistically there is very little reason to go back because there were no fundamentals we can build off that style, the only format for a game using that style would be to make games based off nostalgia, or trying to set a tone of a time period. (Not a video game, but look at Petscop for example).
I grew up in this era and in all retrospect I should have nostalgia for it. But when I think back 20 years ago I imagine the game's looking more what they do now then they actually did. Case and point, the style only left the impression of what is to come, rather then what it was for its time.
