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Billy Mitchell's >1m scores in Donkey Kong were done on emulator, not standard hardware, maybe faked
- Thread starter ItWasMeantToBe19
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How about the DK Arcade game that's unlocked in DK64? Would it count if you beat the world record on that? Just wondering.
The funniest thing about this, for me, was that King of Kong manipulated their footage to present a specific narrative:
Twin Galaxies were unreliable, played massive favorites and Billy Mitchell was an awful person.
Now we know that that story is actually pretty much how things really were.
Twin Galaxies were unreliable, played massive favorites and Billy Mitchell was an awful person.
Now we know that that story is actually pretty much how things really were.
Wiebe is like 6ft 2 which makes Mitchell something like 6ft 7, I'd say that's pretty distinctive! I wonder what the reaction would be to a Dinklage flick that "undoes" his achondroplasia. Anyways, total detail, sorry. Isn't Mitchell the guy who was parodied by Cartoon Network's Regular Show?
Steve Wiebe was always the real King of Kong
one of the best documentaries I've watched and Weibe to me was always the king.
Man did that shit live
According to DKF it's currently 1,206,800 by Dean Saglio in 2013.
It seems every single outed fraud started off as a cocky douche and only became more of a douche to protect their lie.
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The old emulator has a function which allows you to restart a floor you screwed up on over and over again meaning that Mitchell's scores may have not been in a single sitting and thus wouldn't be legitimate scores.
This is the truth. Fun documentary too.Steve Wiebe was always the real King of Kong
Maybe he lied about his height score as well. Peter Dinklage is perfect.
Steve Wiebe was always the real King of Kong
This is a what a real champion looks like.
All hail the king.
After watching Adam Sandler's Pixels (its not as bad as I was expecting) I think Peter Dinklage should play Billy Mitchell if they ever make a movie about him.
Wasn't Dinklage's character a parody of Mitchell?
There was apparently a Yoshi's Island speedrunner who was outed and owned up to it in a pretty humble way. This video talks about it:
Because in this case, nobody watched him record them, so it's highly likely they're tool-assisted to get a better score.
Without a doubt, but that makes it even worse. For somebody so rooted in the community he knew exactly what he was doing and that he should have admitted using an Emulator. The possibilities for altering the whole game and therefore the records are obvious. If he couldn't properly do it or just wasn't good enough for the top of the list, well ... too bad for him.
I know King of Kong hat some anti-Mitchell narrative, but looking at his shady history about submitting his records there was always something off. Good thing, stuff like that comes out now...otherwise what's the point?
lol
The man who claims to have gotten a better time than even TASers say is possible to get in Dragster. There's a man you can trust!
The version in DK64 is based on the Japanese version of DK, which isn't played in the US to the degree that the US version is. However, DK64 seems to make more subtle tweaks beyond that. It's not conclusive, since there isn't a lot of interest in studying this version.
All versions of MAME have this function. WolfMAME, the build used by scorekeepers, is supposed to disable this function when recording a run, but there are ways around it.
Of course, we don't know if Todd used WolfMAME, or even what point update of MAME he used at all (point updates typically behave the same even across builds). I don't think Todd was even recording his runs to begin with...
These situations are hard because you want to give the benefit of the doubt to the accusers but at the same time it's easy to believe that someone would make something up in order to disparage a person in such a prominent position. At the same time, casting doubt on the accusers makes it that much more difficult for others to come forward. I think the important thing is that we all learn to respect each other and behave accordingly.
while his kid kept asking him to wipe his butt... as a father... that's mad concentration
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I mean, the forum post is pretty definitive, there's not much to investigate.
Billy Mitchell should go on Twitch and grind Donkey Kong until he reaches a million O_O
And that's awesome. But these are grown ass men who buried themselves in lies and denials. This kid just happens to speedrun during a time where cheating is much more difficult to do without being called out.
I don't know about that.
It was almost as if they wanted to make Mitchell as the bad guy. I also think that the makers took some liberties with the timing and sequence of events.
What sucks is that Twin Galaxies has a lot of high score records from tons of retro games that will probably never be played in a serious way again. With all the news that have been appearing lately we don't really know which record is real and what not
