Yeah, gutterboy44 probably expressed my thoughts better. The system is rather opaque (I assume because they don't want people to game the SR system), but we need more metrics and data analysis of our progress so we can improve.
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Gran Turismo SPORT | OT | Putting it all on the line
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Damn, who needs a new Burnout. I hope you got a DR bonus for that.
That's amazing. I'm actually surprised the physics engine even handles it that well.
I was mostly surprised the game didn't reset my car mid-air. :^)
Yup I suspect they haven't shown any numbers so the system does not get abused. That being said what about this:
Posting mediocre QL to place you in lower parts of your class, making it easier for you to win the race and so up your DR quicker.
I'd love to meet the person who thought that driving Alsacia with an Audi TTS is fun
Lmao you just made my day, amazing!
Lmao you just made my day, amazing!
They've disabled tuning now.
The only advice I can give is to turn traction control as low as possible in that car. 1 or 0 and you should be able to set fast times.
Low qualy times for me just mean I am at the back of the pack. The game seems to prioritize SR for match making so I am in the S rank and go up against some really fast times. I have stalled at DR B since the first few days of the game. I haven't seen my bar for DR B go above half full and I race pretty consistently, making up positions or occasionally finishing in top three. Wins have become very race for me since I hit SR S and DR B. The competition are people who are the fastest times in my side of the globe. I really think they just need to straight up copy iRacing for this system. It makes no sense as it stands. SR should section people off in to classes of racing. If you are SR D, you should be limited to smaller tracks with slower cars to really learn how to drive clean both offensively and defensively. Gr.__ races should be locked out until SR B or above. On top of all that there needs to be match making priority for DR rank, as this seems to be more closely tied to performance as in, who can win races more often. This is unclear at this point because the DR system is opaque.
As I have been banging on about in my last few posts, the Strength of Field system is just as essential as the SR system for meaningful online races. Once you find yourself racing clean with other clean drives, the strength of field system is what allows finishing a crazy close race in 6th place much more rewarding than getting a win in a field where match making put you against much slower drivers. For those unfamiliar with the system, basically the driver ratings of every person in the race are considered and that then increases or decreases the total points given for each finishing position. If you are at the back of the pack with aliens but you manage a pass or two, that finishing position in 8th place is going to be worth nearly as much as a win against a field of noobs. This does two things, it rewards people at all levels both in the sense of personal enjoyment of close racing as well as actual points toward your rank. Secondly, it will prevent people who are crazy fast from gaming a system of rank fixing so they can stay in lower classes to get match made against noobs to rank up wins and poles. You would get very few to no points if you are racing against people way slower than you. This forces them to race against equally skilled people to gain decent points. Once you have a system like this in place, you can do things like seasons or match make for special events in a much more accurate and fair way.
It'd be nice if more details for the first official cup this weekend come out, as we have no idea what to expect. After way too much practice I got into the 43s, and despite an optimal of 43.5 being a few more tenths there to grab I feel like I'm at the limit of what's possible without a force feedback wheel.
Going to try the BB raceway Gr3 I think. There's really only one racing line after turn 2, plus it's all flat-out so the odds of any collisions would be low. Hopefully. Deliberately not going to qualify and will just watch the first race.
Going to try the BB raceway Gr3 I think. There's really only one racing line after turn 2, plus it's all flat-out so the odds of any collisions would be low. Hopefully. Deliberately not going to qualify and will just watch the first race.
Oh even better! Lol. I almost prefer not having to worry about tunes. Saves me a lot of time.
To add to this, brake bias can still be adjusted via the MDR settings HUD while driving. Bias is locked in the tune menu, but can be set on the fly which is either a bug or a fun secret. Many cars can get much better rotation without losing braking performance with a little rear brake bias. At Kyoto I was running 4 or 5 rear depending on the car and it can make a pretty big difference for getting turned in and back on the throttle quicker.
Nice, I'll have to try that. This is one of those things about tuning that the game never explains.
Brake bias is about braking performance and car balance under braking. Running ABS is almost required in a GT game due to the lack of brake pressure adjustments and pedal linearity. So you only lose a very small amount of peak braking performance with going more rear bias. Stability is also handled by ABS in GT, so it really comes down to getting that extra turn in at brake lift off or reducing understeer while trail braking. If there are a lot of long high speed corners where you carry braking into the corner (trail braking) or some tight hairpins where you feel like your car understeers all the way to the apex, some additional rear brake bias can help reduce understeer in those trail brake corners or help get the back end out and your nose in on the hairpins which means straightening out sooner through apex and getting on the throttle quicker.. This is key because you might be able to run a more balanced or slightly understeer favored overall setup for cornering and throttle stability while still making your car a little more lively when sharp turn in or long trail braking is crucial. The Audi TT, does great with 1 or 2 rear bias. Something like the Ferrari 458 doesn't need any help rotating because turn in is already really sharp.
This game's SR is fucking infuriating sometimes. Got slightly bumped from behind by another car trying an impossible overtake, my SR goes down (which leads to a demotion to B at the end of the race even though I got green SR the rest of the race) AND I get a 10 seconds penalty as well! Like, are you fucking kidding me?
BB Gr3 was fun! Not "I'm willing to torpedo my SR by doing this repeatedly" fun, but still fun. My field was entirely S-tier SRs so, uh, your experience may vary. Don't be a dick and swerve across the entire track to block someone with a big run on you in the final corner, please!
The TTS... ugh. That thing is horrible in slower corners. It's like driving a wet noodle. I remember using it on Dragon Trail in the beta and it felt great there.
The TTS... ugh. That thing is horrible in slower corners. It's like driving a wet noodle. I remember using it on Dragon Trail in the beta and it felt great there.
The TTS was quick in the closed beta N300 races and had incredible maneuverability with the right tune. I'm disappointed it's so mediocre in the one make races.
Phew, lost my first Kyoto race but easily won my second. Basically, the car that is popular in the top 10 leaderboards might not necessarily be the best car for an individual player.
I couldn't really get on with the Alpha Gr.4, I find the gearing too short and that it is also a tad tail happy or erratic. Swapped to the Cayman GT4 and I'm now putting out a much more consistent performance.
Also found that on other tracks I do better with the M6 Gr.3 over the RSR and GT-R, despite the latter two eating up all the leaderboards.
I couldn't really get on with the Alpha Gr.4, I find the gearing too short and that it is also a tad tail happy or erratic. Swapped to the Cayman GT4 and I'm now putting out a much more consistent performance.
Also found that on other tracks I do better with the M6 Gr.3 over the RSR and GT-R, despite the latter two eating up all the leaderboards.
On one other random note, bloody hell using a wheel with this game can be physically taxing with some cars lol. The Alpha Gr.4 was eating me up after a while. I use a T300RS GT with torque and sensivity both set to 6, and my upper body and right hand/thumb was honestly a tad achey after this last several hour stint lol.
It's interesting that that car has turned into a bust while at the same time they clearly made zero effort to adjust the absurd imbalance of the Gr4 GT-R. The 4C to a lesser extent, too, where it really depends on the track. Gr3 feels relatively well balanced now with different cars suited for different tracks. Certainly better than having just a couple competitive options.
The TTS and the Evo were N300 overlords in the closed beta and I liked those battles because the cars have such different personalities. The TTS largely won out in the end, if I recall.
Do you have PSVR to add on to this? Even a half hour in VR using the DS4 on motion controls wears me out! And uh yeah, that 4C is undriveable on the standard controller without assists. I'm not even going to bother hunting down the last 2 seconds a lap slower I am on that .
Nope, no VR, just the wheel and pedals. I can imagine motion controls being tiring after a while as well though.
That's awesome! I've got to try that now, haha.
https://twitter.com/r1532k/status/925718053907607552?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
From Twitter some one did Kazunori Yamauchi San livery
From Twitter some one did Kazunori Yamauchi San livery
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Yeah they definitely need to tweak this and have a better understanding of what has happened in each incident. Twice now I've had a 10 second penalty and been demoted from B to C at that final chicane at Kyoto tonight, due to me taking the chicane the way I always do and people messing it up and stabbing the brakes mid chicane when I'm right behind them. That's their fault entirely and they should take the hit and drive through/go off the track. I certainly shouldn't be getting that penalty, or if so something FAr less severe than 10 seconds and my rating being severely affected.
I AM absolutely loving this game though, in spite of this. The driving has been fantastic, mostly at Kyoto in Gr.3 level cars. Just such good racing when the field is good.
Best trick shot I've seen, ever.
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Just keep it simple. Have 3 dailies, and 3 weeklies. Will stop all the complaining.
I personally enjoyed the scirocco quite a bit for Kyoto, not sure if higher brackets are more Alfa but I qualified 40.7 with it and could lap routinely in 41.3-41.4 without risking anything which was plenty fast for the lower bracket I am in (C DR / B SR at the moment). Only ever saw the 4C in one of the several races I did.
Got my GIMX adapter config setup correctly finally, so now I can use my G27 and Fanatec pedals with this game. Wow, what an improvement! I had been seriously struggling to get gold on the one lap Nordschleife circuit challenge with my best being a 7:05 (with the Dualshock). My new best with the wheel is a 6:54 lol.
Man, the Alpha is great at today's kyoto. So much more nimble. Immediately knocked a second off my time.
Some of the vision concept cars don't have interiors. Yep, it's kind of a bummer.
My latest pet peeve with the game is the UI, specifically the placement of your lap time and especially the "slow down" warning that pops in immediately below. It gets distracting, especially when the bright white on red suddenly pops into view in the middle of the screen.
We get it, we bumped or skipped a corner, but we don't need this prominent an indicator. I'd like to move both details to the screen corner or even disable entirely.
We get it, we bumped or skipped a corner, but we don't need this prominent an indicator. I'd like to move both details to the screen corner or even disable entirely.
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I still can't get rumble to work with G27, dunno what I'm doing wrong. The DS4 actually gives me better feedback of the road than the wheel.
Man that 4C Gr.4 sure is squirrelly with any application of throttle in low gears. Got a 0:42.1 on Kyoto with it though.