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Oct 27, 2017
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Cross-posting from the Japanese Music thread, I got these albums on Friday, plus a couple of Yamashita albums last month, all thanks to the original thread:

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Just when I thought I'd gotten a handle on my synthwave purchases, a whole new universe opened up to swallow my wallet ;~;

Japanese vinyl colectors don't mess around either, these were all in immaculate condition.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Jeez y'all, posting a City Pop thread without me knowing...2nd page isn't so bad, I guess.

Let me contribute a Tatsuro classic and then something lesser-known:





Shigeru Suzuki's Band Wagon has a nice, more fleet-footed classic rock style of kayokyoku, but I think it qualifies. If I could find it on streaming, the first Moonriders album, Cannonball Boy, would be a prime example of alt-City Pop with its wacky instrumentation and concept album structure. Akiko Yano also dabbled in some City Pop-isms on her album Dinner's Ready from 1980, though she always finds creative detours.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Devil Halton's Trap
For some reason, this video always shows up as a recommendation on my YouTube, and it has showed up even before I even knew of City Pop. I'm not sure why it did and why it still does but I'm not complaining. It has a good sound.
Back when I was still getting into the genre, I was constantly amused by how often "4 AM" from Taeko Ohnuki's Sunshower made its way into everyone's YouTube recommendations. That probably had a big role in spreading awareness of this style of kayokyoku outside Japan.

I like organ a lot in jazz music and I understand Kiyomi Otaka started as an organist, but I much prefer Mukaiya's use of electric piano and his style of improvisation. In recordings of live performances with Mukaiya, the guy looks like he's having so much fun, too.
Mukaiya helped define Casiopea's texture and spaced-out but exuberant arrangement. Otaka, meanwhile, is a really good jazz and fusion organist who's done some excellent albums with jazz artists from around the world...so this seems like punching below her weight and also off to the side too much. Even T-Square doesn't play with real erudite performers that often, though they're still very talented and excel at a niche outside Casiopea's.
 

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My favorite Yamashita joint, "Magic Ways":



Not only can he sing in English perfectly, he performs all the vocals on this song/album. In other words, he's harmonizing *with himself* :o
 

Jojo Leir

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The chorus is just so strong is this one, goddamn.



Another classic.
 
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Nightcall

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm not sure if this is strictly city pop, but I just love early 90s japanese dance music:



Those acts had so much more personality than the generic Johnny bands that infested the music scene after the bubble truly burst...
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Haha — damn you Trojita, I was saving a remake of this for when I finally got thread making privileges.

I got them to reopen the thread on the other site recently, but tbh I think I'm gonna port over a lot of the stuff for the sake of preservation.
 

nodakel

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Mukaiya helped define Casiopea's texture and spaced-out but exuberant arrangement. Otaka, meanwhile, is a really good jazz and fusion organist who's done some excellent albums with jazz artists from around the world...so this seems like punching below her weight and also off to the side too much. Even T-Square doesn't play with real erudite performers that often, though they're still very talented and excel at a niche outside Casiopea's.
Aboslutely. Otaka is definitely a great organist, but the new(ish) lineup will absolutely take some more getting used to. Don't get me wrong- I love Casiopea, but Mukaiya definitely has a soft spot in my heart!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Devil Halton's Trap
Both Casiopea and T-Square tend to pull from the same pool of returning and upcoming Japanese jazz players, so I'm confident about most of their new albums and tours. The real issue starts with how few people tend to discuss those bands outside Japan, considering their influence on video game music and the Japanese fusion scene.
 

Zeroro

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Both Casiopea and T-Square tend to pull from the same pool of returning and upcoming Japanese jazz players, so I'm confident about most of their new albums and tours. The real issue starts with how few people tend to discuss those bands outside Japan, considering their influence on video game music and the Japanese fusion scene.

I found out about both of those bands in an interview Shoji Meguro gave where he spoke about some of his influences. I love Casiopea but haven't listened to much of T-Square. I should probably fix that.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I found out about both of those bands in an interview Shoji Meguro gave where he spoke about some of his influences. I love Casiopea but haven't listened to much of T-Square. I should probably fix that.
T-Square had a clear influence on Yoko Shimomura, also, since Guile's Theme eerily resembles an early T-Square track composed by Hirotaka Izumi. The lead guitarist and co-founder, Masahiro Ando, dabbled in video game music himself and ended up becoming the central musician behind Gran Turismo (which explains why Satoshi Bandoh, one of T-Square's drummers, also contribute his own BGM to the games).
 
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Ive been listening to a LOT of Casiopea. Main Gate is a killer album but theyre all good.

Also Ryo Kawasaki, ok jazz fusion guitarist but his compositions are great
 

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Hi Im just here to say that Shizuka Kudo has rocketed to one of my recent favorite artists, in part because I searched for City Pop. Her and Dreams Come True are probably my two favorite City Pop artists.
 

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Favorite songs/albums?

Ill name songs since the list i listen to is a random assortment:

Shizuka Kudo-
If
Furueru 1Byou
Kindan no Telepathy
Doukoku
Kuchibiru Kara Biyaku
Subete ha Sorekara
Daremo Shiranai Blue Angel
Wine Hitokuchi no Uso

Dreams Come True-
Romance - Infinity Version
Ureshii! Tanoshi! Daisuke!
Ano Natsuno Hanabi
This is Not Love At All(my personal favorite)
Sweet Revenge
Hide and Seek
Medicine
Uchi Kaero
Soredemo Koi Wa Eien

Also another Jam I like alot is 'Do It Again' by Omega Tribe& Sugiyama Kiyotaka

Theyre all on spotify too.
 

Z..

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Oct 30, 2017
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Several Toshiki mentions and nobody posts the single greatest City Pop track ever made? Shame!!!!



I've been on a black metal kick for months, and this has stopped that.
I hope that kick included everything Emperor's ever done.

Also, because they always deserve more love:

 

Rydeen

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Oct 25, 2017
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The real issue starts with how few people tend to discuss those bands outside Japan, considering their influence on video game music and the Japanese fusion scene.

The first time I heard Casiopea, it was like an epiphany to me, like I was finally hearing the "missing link" between popular Japanese music and Japanese video game soundtracks, it was that extra bit of DNA that was missing in the genetic code. I've tried several times to get Jeremy Parish to listen to some T-Square and Casiopea so he can do an episode of Retronauts about how Japanese fusion jazz and City Pop fit into the timeline of video game music to no avail.

Anyway, some recommended tracks, most of these were from the previous thread as well:




I'm also trying to figure out what exactly it is that is making this music finally explode and catch on outside of Japan. Is it just people interested in Japanese developed video game music or "vaporwave" finally connecting the dots or something?
 

nsilvias

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Oct 25, 2017
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The first time I heard Casiopea, it was like an epiphany to me, like I was finally hearing the "missing link" between popular Japanese music and Japanese video game soundtracks, it was that extra bit of DNA that was missing in the genetic code. I've tried several times to get Jeremy Parish to listen to some T-Square and Casiopea so he can do an episode of Retronauts about how Japanese fusion jazz and City Pop fit into the timeline of video game music to no avail.

Anyway, some recommended tracks, most of these were from the previous thread as well:


I'm also trying to figure out what exactly it is that is making this music finally explode and catch on outside of Japan. Is it just people interested in Japanese developed video game music or "vaporwave" finally connecting the dots or something?

It was probably /mu/ discovering vaporwave then finding the sources & obsessing over it on sites like rym & discogs which google picked up in their searches which caused it to get pushed to people on youtube. Japans renewed interest in the genre in recent years probably helped as well. Also, I'd include techno kayo in the timeline of VG music considering Yellow Magic Orchestras influence at the time.
 

Rydeen

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd include techno kayo in the timeline of VG music considering Yellow Magic Orchestras influence at the time.
Definitely,citypop and J-fusion jazz seem to just now be catching up. I'm talking more from a Western perspective of understanding the musical roots of this stuff since so many people outside of Japan were first introduced to these genres through video game soundtracks. YMO and Sakamoto have been a known influence in the West for some time.
 

thebeeks

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Oct 25, 2017
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YESSSS this thread is back! I didn't get a chance to listen to everything on the old site.

Also, I'll recommend my first citypop song, Tobashite Taxi Man.



Found this song on Radiooooo a year or so ago before I knew the genre was a thing and fell deep in love.
 

paprika

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Oct 25, 2017
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seeing a lot of Tatsuro Yamashita in this thread, I was listening to him just earlier today

this song in particular really got me going



between this thread and the japanese music OT I have a lot of new shit to listen to

I'm overwhelmed but also thankful