Gran Turismo SPORT | OT | Putting it all on the line

eyeball_kid · Jan 29, 2018

Did the Group 4 FIA manufacturers' race on Dragons Trail tonight -- my second in DR C -- and got 2nd place. Felt pretty good for only practicing 15 minutes beforehand and you know...it's Dragons Trail. Started 6th and moved up through carnage and overtakes and held on through the next eight laps. Couldn't catch the M4 ahead of me, stayed about 3 seconds behind the whole time. I had a rare battle with another 458 who was trailing behind me the whole time. Gotta say it felt good to beat them as they had ASM turned on, it's basically a cheat code as far as I'm concerned.

edit: recorded a short clip of the first lap where I maneuvered past the mayhem into 3rd place. I purposefully played conservatively through the S-turns as the Merc seemed too feisty to contend with. Unfortunately that guy later bashed several other people through the ranks as he rage-crashed himself into last place. Felt like this was a decent piece of driving on my part though.

xrnzaaas · Jan 30, 2018

tmkn said:
what's up with the first daily race?
started last and finished 6th o_O
everyone in the same car, super easy track where you basically never have to let go off the gas yet I had no problems overtaking them.
Is it because I had traction control on 0?

there's just something magical when you learn the track and approach a corner fast, downshift, hear all the cracks and noises from the gearbox(audi r8 <3) and then nail the corner

in general the gameplay is so fucking smooth, it really is fun just doing time trials alone, even with a pad.

Maybe you're just too good of a player? ;) If you don't hit the apex in the first corner correctly you can lose a lot of speed for the rest of the lap (or hit the wall ;)). I actually enjoyed racing on the BB Raceway yesterday even though my best laps were around 0.3-0.4 slower than the top guys.

ty_hot · Jan 30, 2018

xrnzaaas said:
Maybe you're just too good of a player? ;) If you don't hit the apex in the first corner correctly you can lose a lot of speed for the rest of the lap (or hit the wall ;)). I actually enjoyed racing on the BB Raceway yesterday even though my best laps were around 0.3-0.4 slower than the top guys.

Yesterday I had a great rece in BB as well, started 5th and stayed behind 3 cars for 3 or 4 laps, then I finally overtook 1 and then the other 2 in the next lap (could have tried to overtake them all at first but was afraid of an accident). But then it was too late to catch the 1st place (1.5 second ahead). I feel like anything over 1 second makes you lose any slipstream advantage... It was great to get and maintain the second position though.

prarts · Jan 30, 2018

Sejanoz said:
Made a new livery and went for a reality check

WTF? WOW!
How did you found real life photos that matches Scape ones almost exactly?

Fifanutz · Jan 30, 2018

moley moley moley said:
Haha! I've just gone and won my first ever race in the gr3 daily at that track! :D

Got the pole and FL too!

I take it back, I'm brilliant at this game .

Nice one. Congratulations. Those wins feel so good. I don't get that many so have to make do with the buzz of good fun clean racing and intense midfield battles.

AbandonedTrolley · Jan 30, 2018

I'm just happy to make it out of the first corner in one piece in some races!

Sejanoz · Jan 30, 2018

eyeball_kid said:
Wow, nice! That one's really close. How do you typically find your logos? For the Ferrari I did, some I found SVGs for, some I had to trace or rebuild, and some just weren't worth it.

Mostly I hope other people have already uploaded the logos I need (or I do a google search filtering by filetype), because I hate dealing with SVGs lol.
Converting from .png is a pain in the ass - I made the german flag on the bonnet with this method because I thought it was a simple design, but it didn't turn out that good.
For some text logos (like "keukens", or "Leusden" written in the typical Lamborghini font) I tried Inkscape text feature > Object to path > Save as plain svg. But it doesn't always show up when I open the decal in the editor, and I still have no idea why. I think I also used MethodDraw online once.

In the end it all comes down to matching the position of the decals by taking a few reference points (headlights, bolts, etc) on the body of the car: this one is actually a rather simple design, it doesn't have big decals that you need to wrap around half of the car's body!
Which is also why I focus on lesser known, simple replicas. I wouldn't know where to start if I were to make an original design, haha

DHC-Shannow said:
Just an idea but how about the winner of each round (both GR3 and GR4) loses 1 point of power and gains 1 point in weight? So as the season goes on the races get tighter - in a way it's punishing those who do well but it also means closer competition and leveling the BoP...

I'd be okay with that, or just a simple ballast system.

prarts said:
WTF? WOW!
How did you found real life photos that matches Scape ones almost exactly?

It's from race replay photomode!

DHC-Shannow · Jan 30, 2018

Sejanoz said:
I'd be okay with that, or just a simple ballast system.

So how did the GR4's seem for balance? Was there any car that particularly stood out?

AbandonedTrolley · Jan 30, 2018

DHC-Shannow said:
So how did the GR4's seem for balance? Was there any car that particularly stood out?

Looked like Sejanoz had a fairly comfy race in the Lamborghini, just watching the replay back and my god I moaned about the handling of my car but it looked like Psycho_Mantis was battling every corner in the GR3 Ferrari.

One of my favorite moments

DHC-Shannow · Jan 30, 2018

AbandonedTrolley said:
Looked like Sejanoz had a fairly comfy race in the Lamborghini, just watching the replay back and my god I moaned about the handling of my car but it looked like Psycho_Mantis was battling every corner in the GR3 Ferrari.

One of my favorite moments

Wow that was a great takedown! I'll have to watch the race replay tonight and take some photos of the participants :-)

Sejanoz · Jan 30, 2018

Yeah the Lambo Gr4 handles really well. I had a strong start so I didn't really see many Gr4s during the race, but I battled with Oghuz Klan's BMW around halfway of the race for a couple of laps. Seemed pretty balanced to me!
And I'm sure if prarts didn't start at the back we would've finished pretty damn close.

lol at the gif. Poor fifanutz

Fifanutz · Jan 30, 2018

AbandonedTrolley said:
Looked like Sejanoz had a fairly comfy race in the Lamborghini, just watching the replay back and my god I moaned about the handling of my car but it looked like Psycho_Mantis was battling every corner in the GR3 Ferrari.

One of my favorite moments

When I got taken out I thought bloody hell am I back in sport mode ;-)

Deleted member 8408 · Jan 30, 2018

AbandonedTrolley said:
Looked like Sejanoz had a fairly comfy race in the Lamborghini, just watching the replay back and my god I moaned about the handling of my car but it looked like Psycho_Mantis was battling every corner in the GR3 Ferrari.

One of my favorite moments

LMAO! Thats brilliant. I shouldn't really laugh too much though because I definitely had some moments in the R8 LMS. I was hanging on for dear life on the last lap.

Sorry for the delay in getting the results up guys, been super busy so haven't had a chance to sit down and sift through the results. Will get them sorted in the next couple of hours.

For next weeks race should we move on the the next location on the schedule and make that the "round one" or do you want to have a vote for a different track?

AbandonedTrolley · Jan 30, 2018

GHG said:
LMAO! Thats brilliant. I shouldn't really laugh too much though because I definitely had some moments in the R8 LMS. I was hanging on for dear life on the last lap.

Sorry for the delay in getting the results up guys, been super busy so haven't had a chance to sit down and sift through the results. Will get them sorted in the next couple of hours.

For next weeks race should we move on the the next location on the schedule and make that the "round one" or do you want to have a vote for a different track?

I'm happy with the next track but if people want to move on then that's cool. I do feel this upcoming round should be round one though. What with the false start for some and poor connections meaning not much qualifying time, better to start again and hopefully with better results.

Psycho_Mantis · Jan 30, 2018

Sejanoz said:
Made a new livery and went for a reality check:

Can't find the same time of day though

You should do more comparisons with them. Looks insanely close.

AbandonedTrolley said:
Looked like Sejanoz had a fairly comfy race in the Lamborghini, just watching the replay back and my god I moaned about the handling of my car but it looked like Psycho_Mantis was battling every corner in the GR3 Ferrari.

One of my favorite moments

OMG, my whole race was embarassing. Couldn't control the car to save my life. Was getting overtaken by Gr.4 drivers and had to pit like every 3 laps. This is what I get for going with a new car without practice. Thought it would handle like the Ferrari Gr.4.....

I've made some progress with the car now, managed to get a time of 2:19 in the Yamigawa+Miyabi daily the other day. Brake balance at -5 to stop that lift off oversteer, TC at 2. Still more twitchy than I am used to.

Fifanutz said:
When I got taken out I thought bloody hell am I back in sport mode ;-)

I apologise >.<

Fifanutz · Jan 30, 2018

Made no difference in the end, I miscalculated my last stop as only calculated for 30mins and not to get me across the finish line. I was around 15-20secs ahead of the 3 or 4 behind me from memory with about 28mins gone so I thought I can't pit I'll just nurse it home. My tyres were shot and I put my fuel to 6, one car shot past me then my tank was empty half a lap from the finish and the others shot past while I limped home dead last. I'd have been okay if I tanked up on my last pit stop but only put enough for 4 laps

Apex88 · Jan 30, 2018

A nice GT Sport video.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/h680zgypLv8

eyeball_kid · Jan 30, 2018

GHG said:
For next weeks race should we move on the the next location on the schedule and make that the "round one" or do you want to have a vote for a different track?

Well either we count Kyoto Y+M as the round one, or we redo Nurb GP. If the former, we'll have to slot in another track somewhere as we'll be a track down for the season (if that matters). I'm fine with redoing Nurb (or even picking a brand new track), but I'll go with whatever y'all decide.

Psycho_Mantis maybe I should drive the Gr.3 car for this weekend until you get a little more comfortable with it? The Gr.3 is definitely suceptible to tire wear; I was driving it last night in the Brands Hatch endurance and after about 6 laps of 15x tire wear!! (about 30% red tires) I was struggling to keep it from going wide in turns. Just something we'll have to account for in the race strategy.

cooldawn · Jan 30, 2018

DHC-Shannow said:
Just an idea but how about the winner of each round (both GR3 and GR4) loses 1 point of power and gains 1 point in weight? So as the season goes on the races get tighter - in a way it's punishing those who do well but it also means closer competition and leveling the BoP...

Oh yeah, BTCC style. Sounds like a plan.

AbandonedTrolley said:

Ha, the Ferrari 458 GR3 is a completely different beast to the GR4 version.

eyeball_kid · Jan 30, 2018

Shannow's idea is interesting, but I think I'd rather play it straight for the first season and see if and how we need to adjust from there.

AbandonedTrolley · Jan 30, 2018

cooldawn said:
Ha, the Ferrari 458 GR3 is a completely different beast to the GR4 version.

Yeah I found that with the GR3 Hurracan, GR4 has tonnes of grip, GR3 wants to snap ya neck in a spin every turn

Sejanoz · Jan 30, 2018

Kyoto Y+M has a weird flow, you can tell the two tracks weren't meant to be combined. It's longer than Nurb GP and also has some tight turns after steep descents, it's gonna be much harder on the tyres I believe.
I'd rather use Yamagiwa standard, or something else since we already used it in the first Era race. But I'm okay with everything really

DHC-Shannow · Jan 30, 2018

Sejanoz said:
Kyoto Y+M has a weird flow, you can tell the two tracks weren't meant to be combined. It's longer than Nurb GP and also has some tight turns after steep descents, it's gonna be much harder on the tyres I believe.
I'd rather use Yamagiwa standard, or something else since we already used it in the first Era race. But I'm okay with everything really

I've just done a test on it with the same settings as Sunday, it pretty much devoured my right rear in 2 laps on my standard TC 2 setting. Fuel was good for 4 laps but I never actually made it around that last lap without spinning, even after turning TC up to 5. The best lap I managed was a 2:18.9 on mediums, I was about a second up on supersofts but lost the back end and fried them before the end of the lap :-(

I like the track but the settings probably need a tweak or we allow hard tyres again. I'm not the quickest in my McLaren and better balanced cars may well fare better tho.

Fifanutz · Jan 30, 2018

I reckon we'll all spend more time in the pits than on track on the combined track.... Yamagiwa standard is far better

DHC-Shannow · Jan 30, 2018

Fifanutz said:
I reckon we'll all spend more time in the pits than on track on the combined track.... Yamagiwa standard is far better

I think the fuel setting is right and if we knocked the tyre wear down a couple of notches then that'd probably do the trick too.

Fifanutz · Jan 30, 2018

DHC-Shannow said:
I think the fuel setting is right and if we knocked the tyre wear down a couple of notches then that'd probably do the trick too.

Yeah down to 5x at least I reckon

Psycho_Mantis · Jan 30, 2018

Yes please on knocking the tyre wear down.

DHC-Shannow · Jan 30, 2018

I'm away for a few days now and it sounds like GHG has got a busy time too so do some of you guys want to do some more testing with GR3 and GR4 cars on the lower tyre wear settings? GHG still has the final say in what we run with but if you can give him some good info then I'm sure it'll help his decision.

AbandonedTrolley · Jan 31, 2018

DHC-Shannow said:
I've just done a test on it with the same settings as Sunday, it pretty much devoured my right rear in 2 laps on my standard TC 2 setting. Fuel was good for 4 laps but I never actually made it around that last lap without spinning, even after turning TC up to 5. The best lap I managed was a 2:18.9 on mediums, I was about a second up on supersofts but lost the back end and fried them before the end of the lap :-(

I like the track but the settings probably need a tweak or we allow hard tyres again. I'm not the quickest in my McLaren and better balanced cars may well fare better tho.

That lap for SS seems slow, I'm sure I blasted a 2:04 on SS in the practice lobby the other day with fifanutz and mole. Will check settings today and do a few laps, maybe my old mind isn't what it used to be.

eyeball_kid · Jan 31, 2018

Heh, today's endurance race is Gr.1 at Nurb GP. Good luck with that! Interlagos Gr.1 was fun, but Nurb GP...those precise turns seem like a spin death zone.

AbandonedTrolley said:
That lap for SS seems slow, I'm sure I blasted a 2:04 on SS in the practice lobby the other day with fifanutz and mole. Will check settings today and do a few laps, maybe my old mind isn't what it used to be.

I can only imagine you didn't have BoP on if you got a 2:04 on Kyoto Y+M, that doesn't seem possible otherwise. I just did a few laps on it and was hovering around 2:20 on mediums, TC 0 and BoP on.

BTW GHG , when I was trying to set up a sheet for the Ferrari Gr.3 I noticed the weight reduction ratio only goes up to 106%, but the 458 Gr.3's BoP setting is 109%...

Deleted member 8408 · Jan 31, 2018

I can breathe, I'm in between projects for today, thank god. I'm about to go grab the race results from my PS4 now. In the future I will be doing it straight after the race to avoid any delays in getting the results out to you guys.

Psycho_Mantis DHC-Shannow Fifanutz I think it will be knocked down to x6 or x5 for this weeks race due to the length of the track.

I will set up a lobby at around 7:30PM GMT tonight and we can do some testing for tire wear and also try to find a solution for the tire degredation during qualifying issue as well. Everyone is welcome to join.

We will stick to Kyoto for this Sunday's race and make that count as round one. Nurb GP can be moved to be round 3.

eyeball_kid said:
BTW GHG , when I was trying to set up a sheet for the Ferrari Gr.3 I noticed the weight reduction ratio only goes up to 106%, but the 458 Gr.3's BoP setting is 109%...

Have you spent mileage points to upgrade the car yet?

eyeball_kid · Jan 31, 2018

Just did the Maggiore West daily. Pretty good circuit, a bit quicker version of the full track. Also tried some test laps on that Gr.1 at Nurb GP. Ehh, so much up and downshifting. You barely hit the gas and you're already braking for the next turn. I really think they need to move to 4 dailies though, with Gr.3, Gr.3, and Gr.1 choices every day. Gr.1 on Interlagos was really fun, I'd like that class in the mix more often without giving up the other classes.

GHG said:
Have you spent mileage points to upgrade the car yet?

Ah good call, that did it. Didn't even think about that.

eyeball_kid · Jan 31, 2018

Did a quick AI endurance race on Kyoto Y+M using the Ferrari Gr.3, 5x tire wear, racing mediums. I could go about 3.5 laps before it felt like someone put oil on the rears. That track is not kind to tires.

AbandonedTrolley · Jan 31, 2018

eyeball_kid said:
Heh, today's endurance race is Gr.1 at Nurb GP. Good luck with that! Interlagos Gr.1 was fun, but Nurb GP...those precise turns seem like a spin death zone.

I can only imagine you didn't have BoP on if you got a 2:04 on Kyoto Y+M, that doesn't seem possible otherwise. I just did a few laps on it and was hovering around 2:20 on mediums, TC 0 and BoP on.

BTW GHG , when I was trying to set up a sheet for the Ferrari Gr.3 I noticed the weight reduction ratio only goes up to 106%, but the 458 Gr.3's BoP setting is 109%...

Yeah just took another run at it and certainly not right haha. 2:23 with TC 5 on soft, i'll start dialing down the TCS till I find something where it doesn't want to spin in circles.

Fifanutz · Jan 31, 2018

AbandonedTrolley said:
That lap for SS seems slow, I'm sure I blasted a 2:04 on SS in the practice lobby the other day with fifanutz and mole. Will check settings today and do a few laps, maybe my old mind isn't what it used to be.

You blasted out a 2:22 the other day I managed a 2:26 in the Gr4 TT. If you did a 2:04 the rest of us may as well not turn up :-D

AbandonedTrolley · Jan 31, 2018

Fifanutz said:
You blasted out a 2:22 the other day I managed a 2:26 in the Gr4 TT. If you did a 2:04 the rest of us may as well not turn up :-D

I blame the morphine. Damaged my knee a while back had 300ml of fluid drained last Friday and high on pain killers now. At least I get to work from home now though.

Psycho_Mantis · Jan 31, 2018

What were some of you guys Gr.3 times on Nurb GP with tyre wear. Like average and SS best?

JamboGT · Jan 31, 2018

SS was a 54.8 in race I averaged about 2.01 on mediums with fuel set to 5.

Fifanutz · Jan 31, 2018

eyeball_kid said:
Just did the Maggiore West daily. Pretty good circuit, a bit quicker version of the full track

Got a pole with just 2 laps in the bag and won by 3.3 secs on my very first race. All B/C DR.

And another win from 3rd on the grid. Quickly becoming a favourite of mine!

Fifanutz · Jan 31, 2018

AbandonedTrolley said:
I blame the morphine. Damaged my knee a while back had 300ml of fluid drained last Friday and high on pain killers now. At least I get to work from home now though.

Looks bloody painful. Hope you are back on your feet soon

ty_hot · Jan 31, 2018

Lago Maggiore dayly race is great. Cars are stable so people are not spinning (and spinning you). Its also one of my fav tracks so I am quite addicted to it. :D

But as nothing is perfect, a guy called Toyzri jammed me twice out of the track, I got a red SR a d he got a Blue one at the end of the race. He wasn't just pushing the others, he was literally throwing the car at anyone that tried to overtake him -.-

Before the race he was saying that playing on game pad is for kids, but he was behind me (and my pad lol). I guess he got angry that I pointed that out... What a sad life he must have.

Deleted member 8408 · Jan 31, 2018

Here's what the results from Sunday's race would look like if they were to count:

Congrats to Sejanoz for getting the maximum possible points available in the GR4 category and to ruttyboy for winning the Gr.3 category.

As a result team Lambo and team Aston would have led the way in the constructors championship.

Going forwards, failing to adhere to the correct BOP settings will result in a -75% points penalty, sorry JamboGT ;)

Fifanutz · Jan 31, 2018

Congratulations to Sejanoz and Ruttyboy. I Feel a bit better after seeing these results. Qualified 2nd in Gr4 and I know it was 2:06 something, so not far off fastest Qualifying and I was fairly competitive in the race for the most part. Just need to work on my race management.

Sejanoz · Jan 31, 2018

yay team Lambo! (it's called Huracan though :p)

I doubt I'll do as well on Kyoto, next sunday is gonna be much more interesting.

MrLuchador · Jan 31, 2018

This is currently down to £25 on Amazon. Tempting.

Actually, nevermind, it's £17 on Shop.to -- perfect.

Deleted member 8408 · Jan 31, 2018

Sejanoz said:
yay team Lambo! (it's called Huracan though :p)

I doubt I'll do as well on Kyoto, next sunday is gonna be much more interesting.

Don't know what you're talking about ;)

Will be jumping online to set up a test lobby for the next race in a couple of hours, hope some of you can join me.

Fifanutz said:
Congratulations to Sejanoz and Ruttyboy. I Feel a bit better after seeing these results. Qualified 2nd in Gr4 and I know it was 2:06 something, so not far off fastest Qualifying and I was fairly competitive in the race for the most part. Just need to work on my race management.

Yeh consistency was a problem for me in this race as well considering I qualified with a low 1:58. We'll get it together for the next race!

prarts · Jan 31, 2018

GHG
Fantastic summary, thanks!
I`m not familiar with this scoring system I guess Sejanoz points are "win + pole position + fastest lap" but why I have 1 point lower score than Oghuz if I finished above him?
Also I`m sure that JamboGT setup mistake was his last one ;-)

Fifanutz · Jan 31, 2018

I've managed to change my shift to an 23:00 start for Sunday, was originally 22:30 which was cutting it very fine. My wife was like I can't believe you're changing shifts to play a bloody game. She'll never understand.
I'm not working the following Sunday so barring any catastrophes I'll be available for that too!

BradleyLove · Jan 31, 2018

Great work GHG. Has any thought been given to an Era League OT instead of using the GT Sport OT?

Olaf · Jan 31, 2018

Won two Gr.1 races in a row from pole, with a nice +15s gap to 2nd place. By my calculations, next race I should qualify somewhere around 8th and be destroyed.

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