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Yeah, I agree. My thought was that, at this point, they'd have a new 2D Mario / Super Mario Maker ready as enough time has passed since the last one so I'm kind of skeptical of the rumour
 

TheDinoman

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You know...I had a thought.

What if Retro's new game......was TINGLE?

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Now, before you all throw tomatoes at me, there's actually something to base this off of. Back in 2013, there wasn an interview with Tanabe, where he dicussed how he'd like to make a new Tingle game, to make the character more popular and accepted by the western audience.

https://venturebeat.com/2013/06/17/kensuke-tanabe-metroid-tingle/

"I know how hated the character of Tingle is in the U.S," Tanabe started. "I know that people cannot stand Tingle. But to me that challenge is: Could I take this character that is so reviled in the West and just [do] a complete turnaround and make him a beloved, fun character? The idea of that really just gets me going. I know we have made a Tingle game in the past, but maybe at some point down the road. …"

And then, soon afterwards, Michael Kelbaugh joked that Retro would make a new Tingle.

"Retro does Tingle!" Kelbaugh added, playing along with the joke. Another round of laughter swept through our little room.

But...what if he wasn't joking after all, and it was actually a hint towards Retro's next project?

no i don't think any of this shit is gonna happen lol. could you imagine...
 

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Just saw that there's a cute little BOXboy reference in the new Kirby for Switch. Really hoping that means we'll see a new entry or even just a collection on Switch. I love that series so much!
 
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Since everyone is on the topic of Metroid Prime...

Speculation: How would you feel if Nintendo released Metroid Prime Trilogy HD on Switch this year, and then released Metroid Prime 4 in 2019?

Do you think that would be a smart idea? Do you like that idea?

I bring this up because Sony released Uncharted Collection in 2015, and then they released Uncharted 4 in 2016.

I'd buy it. Switch is an exclusives only machine as PS4 is my main console. And I've never played the MP series, so if they made a compilation with great upports if all three, I'd buy it. If they halfassedly put cheap ports on their store for $40-$60 a pop I would skip it.
 

Adder

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At this point and given the rumors I am assuming a 'just OK' year for Nintendo new games-wise from a first party standpoint: Kirby, Yoshi, Mario Tennis, Fire Emblem, and maybe Animal Crossing. The rest are ports. Hopefully they have a new third party exclusive on the way this year or there is more tan that, but I am doubtfulgiven what insiders are saying.

Again, to me having 4 sidescroller platformers is way too much. Hopefully the NSMBU rumor is false.
 

daniel77733

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Oct 27, 2017
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As someone who didn't own a Wii U, I don't mind the ports. I can understand those who did getting annoyed by them but at the same time, Switch is still in it's launch year which is arguably the best of all time. I don't see how some ports to fill out the year is a bad thing. It gives those games another chance at success and the opportunity for those such as myself to play them. Anyone complaining about the ports that Switch is getting to me is just spoiled and believes that they're entitled. As someone who hasn't been into Nintendo since Gamecube, I truly don't see how any Nintendo fan can complain. Just don't get it as it makes no sense.

Hope that NSMBU rumor turns out to be true and adds in the Luigi part as well in one game. That would be good for me as that rounds out my top five Wii U ports that I want on Switch.
 

Charamiwa

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The ports become a problem when they define the year. I'm sure they'll sell well, and I'm looking forward to some of them, but it's just not very exciting. Hopefully they'll start talking about new games soon.
 

switchitter

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Is reverse port begging allowed?

Like no way in fricking hell would I ever want to see NSMBU on Switch...that game is a total dud. If they ported it it would be a milk dud.
What a dumbass mistake it would be to squish yet another old 2D platformer in this year.
 

P-MAC

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I'd buy it. Switch is an exclusives only machine as PS4 is my main console. And I've never played the MP series, so if they made a compilation with great upports if all three, I'd buy it. If they halfassedly put cheap ports on their store for $40-$60 a pop I would skip it.

They had cheap Wii ports on Wii U and it was like £20 for the whole trilogy. They would never sell them separately for full price. But i agree, we need a we'll done HD trilogy instead of just those again
 

Instro

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Oct 25, 2017
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? It started development mid 2015 and was finished mid 2017... Development obviously went great.

I have no idea when it started development, there doesn't seem to be any articles anywhere giving the date. In any case, the initial rumors about the game before it was officially announced had said it had been in development hell for some period of time. Possible that wasn't accurate but who knows.
 
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They had cheap Wii ports on Wii U and it was like £20 for the whole trilogy. They would never sell them separately for full price. But i agree, we need a we'll done HD trilogy instead of just those again

If they released them for like $40 for all three even if they were just cheap Wii ports with a slap of new paint, I'd be interested.

But goddamn, Nintendo. Let me buy Eternal Darkness for Switch. I don't wanna play it on my Wii as it looks like ass on my HDTV :(
 

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I have no idea when it started development, there doesn't seem to be any articles anywhere giving the date. In any case, the initial rumors about the game before it was officially announced had said it had been in development hell for some period of time. Possible that wasn't accurate but who knows.

Article from June 2017:

It's a question the development team struggled with when they started working on the game two years ago.

Not sure where you got the "development hell" rumours from but if I remember correctly, it took a while to get the project off the ground. Development itself probably went as expected.
 

Dark Cloud

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Also, someone earlier in this thread said Nintendo publishes around 22 games a year and so far they've only announced 7 published games this year.

wait, NSMBU was announced/leaked for Switch?

Well some guy on here said a NSMBU+ port and Smash port were coming this year. He doesn't want to get verified which is weird. I think he got something right in the past on Neogaf. Anyways, I have to take it into consideration since Emily said Nintendo is leaning on ports this year, along with third party. I would've never thought they would bring NSMBU back....I mean its been 4 years...that's way more than enough time to make a brand new 2D Mario game.
 
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Sakamoto and like two other people were working on a modded version of Metroid Fusion that they called "Metroid Dread" for a while and Mercury Steam got their pitch for Metroid Prime 4 declined if those are development hell stuff but I don't know.

Mercury Steam's pitches for 2D Metroids were also all brutally declined until Nintendo themselves asked if they wanted to make Samus Returns so that could feel like hell I suppose.

https://youtu.be/yoV5SbM_V8M?t=3m16s
 

Gartooth

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Oct 25, 2017
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2D platformer meltdowns again?

Y'all need to chill, especially when NSMBU is on the basis of a flimsy rumor.
 

Sonicfan1373

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There is no corporate management policy briefing this year, but they are releasing financials this evening. Anything can change, though.

I thought they always did the briefing the day following the financial release. I do not recall any quarter in Nintendo's modern history as a public company where they did not hold briefing.
 

LunaSerena

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I had no idea about that NSMB, but I would take it with a mountain of salt. That he doesn't want to be verified by the mod team should raise giant red flags.

Anyway, if they announce a direct for February the hype will be off the roof. Between all this speculation, that the Nvidia Shield has a working GC emulator in China, and the impeding announcement of the online (unless they axed it which I don't think they would do), this is going to be insane.
 

Instro

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Sakamoto and like two other people were working on a modded version of Metroid Fusion that they called "Metroid Dread" for a while and Mercury Steam got their pitch for Metroid Prime 4 declined if those are development hell stuff but I don't know.

Mercury Steam's pitches for 2D Metroids were also all brutally declined until Nintendo themselves asked if they wanted to make Samus Returns so that could feel like hell I suppose.

https://youtu.be/yoV5SbM_V8M?t=3m16s

That would make sense. MS had done some prototyping that wasn't approved, and then Nintendo came back later with the idea for them to make Samus Returns. The period in between would explain the development issues that were mentioned in rumors on GAF.
 

Zippo

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I thought they always did the briefing the day following the financial release. I do not recall any quarter in Nintendo's modern history as a public company where they did not hold briefing.

Yeah, i forgot. it's not on their schedule at the moment, but if i recall, it's added after financials are released.
 

MoonFrog

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IDK. I have a hard time believing Retro misses this year too, at least by much (i.e. after this coming e3, before the next).

In general, specific new things that I think will come in 2018/2019:

-Kirby 2018
-Labo 1&2 2018
-Hypothetical Labo 3&4 2018/2019
-Yoshi 2018
-FE 2018
-Metroid Prime 4 2018/2019
-Pokemon 2018/2019
-Pikmin 4 2018/2019
-AC 2018/2019
-2D Mario/Mario Maker 2018/2019
-Retro 2018/2019

Smash is up-in-the-air imo, as to how "new" it will be, but I also think it will show up in the next two years.
 

Dark Cloud

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IDK. I have a hard time believing Retro misses this year too, at least by much (i.e. after this coming e3, before the next).

In general, specific new things that I think will come in 2018/2019:

-Kirby 2018
-Labo 1&2 2018
-Hypothetical Labo 3&4 2018/2019
-Yoshi 2018
-FE 2018
-Metroid Prime 4 2018/2019
-Pokemon 2018/2019
-Pikmin 4 2018/2019
-AC 2018/2019
-2D Mario/Mario Maker 2018/2019
-Retro 2018/2019

Smash is up-in-the-air imo, as to how "new" it will be, but I also think it will show up in the next two years.
Man you're taking the easy way out by putting "2018/2019" for so many games lol.
 

MoonFrog

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean...I'm not trying to be bold....

I also think that it'll be an assortment of those titles that hit 2018, but not that any one unannounced/dated title has to be 2018.
 

ReitStuff

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Oct 30, 2017
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Didn't know where to ask this.....

Has there been any talk of the Nintendo Q3 Earnings Release tomorrow? We sometimes get pretty interesting tidbits from these meetings.
 

Zippo

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Dec 8, 2017
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Once again, if you guys are looking for coverage of Nintendo's financials, follow @Gibbogame and @Mochi_WSJ on Twitter, Nintendo typically releases results during the morning and their translations are the best around.
 

MoonFrog

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I think there is like one "meltdown" if we're being incredibly generous with that term on the last two pages...
 
Oct 26, 2017
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First half 2018:

Kirby
Labo 1+2
Mario Tennis
Ports

Second half 2018:

Fire Emblem
Yoshi
Labo 3+4 (probably)
New 2D Mario?

2018/2019:

Pokemon
Metroid Prime 4

:Shrug emoji:

Retro Studios' next game
Animal Crossing
Sakurai's next game
Pikmin 4

2019:

Bayonetta 3
Probably Next Level's next game
Probably new Grezzo Zelda?

2020:

BotW2
Metroid 5
Mario Odyssey 2
XenoSouls
 
Jan 8, 2018
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"David Wise is totally just composing new Funky music" should not be the hill people die on in arguing Retro is making "new IP," aka "anything but DK."

None of the other selectable Kongs have unique in-game music, even when doing character-specific power-ups, and Retro/Monster didn't add new music to the extra world's levels in Returns 3DS (and new levels are far from guaranteed in this port).

It's a different breed of bad argument than "too many platformers" in that it's not based entirely on personal preference, but rather is improbable based on series precedent.
 

Phendrift

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"David Wise is totally just composing new Funky music" should not be the hill people die on in arguing Retro is making "new IP," aka "anything but DK."

None of the other selectable Kongs have unique in-game music, even when doing character-specific power-ups, and Retro/Monster didn't add new music to the extra world's levels in Returns 3DS (and new levels are far from guaranteed in this port).

It's a different breed of bad argument than "too many platformers" in that it's not based entirely on personal preference, but rather is improbable based on series precedent.
Yeah, 100% don't think there's going to be new music in the TF port
 

Tsukinopio

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"David Wise is totally just composing new Funky music" should not be the hill people die on in arguing Retro is making "new IP," aka "anything but DK."

None of the other selectable Kongs have unique in-game music, even when doing character-specific power-ups, and Retro/Monster didn't add new music to the extra world's levels in Returns 3DS (and new levels are far from guaranteed in this port).

It's a different breed of bad argument than "too many platformers" in that it's not based entirely on personal preference, but rather is improbable based on series precedent.
The only people dumb enough to believe that are ones who have deluded themselves into believing that the Tropical Freeze port is the only DK game we're getting this generation. In other words, wishful thinking on their behalf. Retro Studios is not going to fly David Wise across the Atlantic so he can compose a few songs for a port. He only visited Retro once during Tropical Freeze's development.
 

Phendrana

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Also, someone earlier in this thread said Nintendo publishes around 22 games a year and so far they've only announced 7 published games this year.
I highly doubt that they'll be publishing anywhere near that many games going forward.

The main reason they were able to publish ~20 games per year is because handheld development was comparatively much cheaper and faster than making console games. That's not the case anymore: Switch games require the budget and development time of console titles. We should get games more frequently than Nintendo's previous home consoles, but even 12 per year is optimistic imo.

Plus, even if they were able to pump out multiple games per month...would they want to? All that would do is make them compete against themselves for sales, and Nintendo has a history of spacing out their titles to avoid that kind of thing. Tropical Freeze was delayed a few months to avoid going up against Super Mario 3D World, for example. I think it would also screw over third party games, because they'd constantly be having to compete against a barrage of Nintendo games. So again, I really can't see more than one game coming per month, outside of maybe Labo sets since they generally won't be selling to the same people.

We probably will start to see more smaller downloadable games like Snipperclips though.
 

chase beck

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You know...I had a thought.

What if Retro's new game......was TINGLE?

latest


Now, before you all throw tomatoes at me, there's actually something to base this off of. Back in 2013, there wasn an interview with Tanabe, where he dicussed how he'd like to make a new Tingle game, to make the character more popular and accepted by the western audience.

https://venturebeat.com/2013/06/17/kensuke-tanabe-metroid-tingle/



And then, soon afterwards, Michael Kelbaugh joked that Retro would make a new Tingle.



But...what if he wasn't joking after all, and it was actually a hint towards Retro's next project?

no i don't think any of this shit is gonna happen lol. could you imagine...

Oh my god what a dream.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I highly doubt that they'll be publishing anywhere near that many games going forward.

The main reason they were able to publish ~20 games per year is because handheld development was comparatively much cheaper and faster than making console games. That's not the case anymore: Switch games require the budget and development time of console titles. We should get games more frequently than Nintendo's previous home consoles, but even 12 per year is optimistic imo.

Not necessarily. AAA games, yes, they'll need large budgets as always. But smaller tiltes can still be cheap to produce, and can be cranked out in 2 years or less. Indies have been proving that for a while now. So yes, Nintendo can still publish around 22 games a year provided they don't go in trying to make all their games a big budget project. Budget and development time all depend on team size and project scale, not the power of the machine. Plenty of 3DS games were in development for at least 3 years, and that wasn't even an HD system.

Plus, even if they were able to pump out multiple games per month...would they want to? All that would do is make them compete against themselves for sales, and Nintendo has a history of spacing out their titles to avoid that kind of thing. Tropical Freeze was delayed a few months to avoid going up against Super Mario 3D World, for example. I think it would also screw over third party games, because they'd constantly be having to compete against a barrage of Nintendo games. So again, I really can't see more than one game coming per month, outside of maybe Labo sets since they generally won't be selling to the same people.

You're again, assuming every Nintendo title on the Switch needs to be a big budget release. A major release each month, plus a maybe a budget release or two is perfectly viable IMO.

We probably will start to see more smaller downloadable games like Snipperclips though.

Exactly the point, not everything needs to be a high profile release. Part of the reason Nintendo was able to crank out so many games on the DS and 3DS was because they also produced smaller titles in between their big first party releases, especially the 3DS thanks to the rise of the eShop. We can see the same thing on the Switch. Small scale games filling in spaces where a major first party release is missing.
 

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It's true that Ehoavash has not provided evidence to the Admins that they are in fact in a position to know what they claim to know. Therefore, the admin team can not verify that they are telling the truth.

However, based on what we know about this year, I have no reason to doubt Ehoavash's recent claims. It lines up with what I have personally heard about this year's software lineup.
 
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