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I think this is the right place to put up my first ever post, seeing as how getting two premature boys (identical twins, born in week 26) in september caused me to miss... everything that led to ResetEra being set up.

The little guys are doing great, and us parents are slowly getting some sort of sense of what life with twins will belike! And it's pretty great most of the time :D

Not much time to play video games though. Not expecting that to change anytime soon...

Congratulations and welcome to the club! Glad that your boys are healthy, my daughter was also a twin but the other one didn't make it (in the first 12 weeks), stuff like this is always nerv wrecking. Week 26 is really early, I'm happy for you that everything worked out!

Yeah the first months can be rough, with very little sleep. But once they start to sleep the whole night, it gets easier... until they start running around in different directions and you have to catch them :)
 

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I think this is the right place to put up my first ever post, seeing as how getting two premature boys (identical twins, born in week 26) in september caused me to miss... everything that led to ResetEra being set up.

The little guys are doing great, and us parents are slowly getting some sort of sense of what life with twins will belike! And it's pretty great most of the time :D

Not much time to play video games though. Not expecting that to change anytime soon...

Congratulations! So glad your kiddos are doing good.
 

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So when about did you folks start putting the kids on food other than milk? The wee man is just gone 3 months but he's on 7oz bottles and they don't seem to be completely satisfying him ha
 

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I think you can start rice cereal at around 6 months. I'd ask the pediatrician just to be safe, but I think that's what we did.
 

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I think you can start rice cereal at around 6 months. I'd ask the pediatrician just to be safe, but I think that's what we did.

Yeah we've an appointment on Thursday so we'll see what she says then.

So much conflicting advise out there ha my nephew was on sandwiches by like 4 months on the advice of the midwife ha
 

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The WHO recommends that babies be exclusively breastfed for the first six months. We started rice cereal at about five months with both of ours.
 

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I think around 5 months we started putting a teaspoon of oatmeal in his bottle. Only twice a day, before sleep and when he wakes up.
 

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I think this is the right place to put up my first ever post, seeing as how getting two premature boys (identical twins, born in week 26) in september caused me to miss... everything that led to ResetEra being set up.

The little guys are doing great, and us parents are slowly getting some sort of sense of what life with twins will belike! And it's pretty great most of the time :D

Not much time to play video games though. Not expecting that to change anytime soon...

Congratulations.

My little one (getting close to 3 years) is a fan of watching me play videogames (particularly Street Fighter V) and is pretty decent at some of Wii Sports, too. That's been quite useful this winter when we couldn't play outside.
 
Today is Mia's first proper day of nursery school! Aaaaand she's already out sick. The mere two trial days before were enough to fell her. :P


So when about did you folks start putting the kids on food other than milk? The wee man is just gone 3 months but he's on 7oz bottles and they don't seem to be completely satisfying him ha

We started our daughter on sweet potato puree (and some other purees) at 4 months because she was super keen and had no issues. Sweet potato is great because it has lots of iron which they don't get enough of in just breast milk around that point. Makes nice, little, easy to clean cow patties when they poop too! She was also holding and gumming chicken legs to death by 6 months? Having no teeth didn't seem to stop her in the least even though I was a bit anxious at first (nothing hard/crunchy allowed until teeth arrived though). Apparently my husband was eating chicken at 4 months according to his mom... *___*
 

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Today is Mia's first proper day of nursery school! Aaaaand she's already out sick. The mere two trial days before were enough to fell her. :P

Their first few months in nursery are just miserable with disease and illness. He'd get over one thing to come home the next day with something else. He's now pretty much impervious, his little brother, though... not so much. He starts in a couple of weeks so we have that to look forward to again.

*Chef's kiss*
 

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We started our daughter on sweet potato puree (and some other purees) at 4 months because she was super keen and had no issues. Sweet potato is great because it has lots of iron which they don't get enough of in just breast milk around that point. Makes nice, little, easy to clean cow patties when they poop too! She was also holding and gumming chicken legs to death by 6 months? Having no teeth didn't seem to stop her in the least even though I was a bit anxious at first (nothing hard/crunchy allowed until teeth arrived though). Apparently my husband was eating chicken at 4 months according to his mom... *___*

We did the sweet potato thing as well, though at 6 months. The other thing I recommend is avocado, it was the first thing we gave my daughter and she took to it immediately.
 
Their first few months in nursery are just miserable with disease and illness. He'd get over one thing to come home the next day with something else. He's now pretty much impervious, his little brother, though... not so much. He starts in a couple of weeks so we have that to look forward to again.

*Chef's kiss*

I was already dreading it, but for her to get sick just from the intro sessions is hilarious (in a sad way). Hope the poor kid perks up by Wed. She really seemed to like school and it's a bit boring for her here cooped up with the rain. But, hey, at least you'll have commiserating company when your #2 starts!

We did the sweet potato thing as well, though at 6 months. The other thing I recommend is avocado, it was the first thing we gave my daughter and she took to it immediately.

Oh yeah, avocado is soooo good. Cram in as much as you can before your kiddo goes off it, Podge!
 

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I wish my kids would eat Avocado, truly the food of the gods... my wife hates it so I have to eat a whole one in one go. Might try the nippers with it at the weekend.
 

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avocado is terrible, i'll let the wife decide if she wants to subject the poor man to it ha i couldn't dare bring myself to do it.
 
Avocado is brain food, Podge. Embrace it!

Speaking of adventures in parenting...

My husband and I have been amusing ourselves by rearranging Mia's playroom at night after she goes to bed. Doing it almost every night is getting challenging, but with little free personal time it's a chore made fun. I'm entertained, anyway.

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My little man just turned 4 months old. He's still waking up once a night, but likes to pound his pack n play with his feet when we put him back to bed. Anyone else experience this? I'm pretty sure there's no secret or tips for getting him to sleep longer.

Also, is it normal for parents sex lives to dramatically decrease after having kids? I'm lucky if we get any alone time more than once a month. Speaking to my wife about it, she's almost constantly exhausted after we put our son to bed. I end up feeling guilty and selfish even bringing the topic up these days.
 

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Avocado is brain food, Podge. Embrace it!

Speaking of adventures in parenting...

My husband and I have been amusing ourselves by rearranging Mia's playroom at night after she goes to bed. Doing it almost every night is getting challenging, but with little free personal time it's a chore made fun. I'm entertained, anyway.

These are fantastic :) I need to up my parenting game...
 

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@hpro that looks adorable. If it makes you feel any better Charlotte's first day of preschool is also the first day I had to send a sick note.

Also, is it normal for parents sex lives to dramatically decrease after having kids? I'm lucky if we get any alone time more than once a month. Speaking to my wife about it, she's almost constantly exhausted after we put our son to bed. I end up feeling guilty and selfish even bringing the topic up these days.

It is normal for your sex life to decrease, especially if your wife is breastfeeding or you're co-sleeping. Kids are exhausting and clingy, spending an entire day with someone touching you constantly can leave you all touched out by the time they go to bed. As your baby gets older and less needy things will get better. Once a month is a dramatic decrease and I never quite got that low, mainly because I knew my SO was horny and once we started I would enjoy myself, but he never pressured me which was a relief, if he had I'm sure I would have resented him. Maybe ask your wife what you can do to help so that she's not as exhausted? Obviously you can't breastfeed, but you can help with everything else. Don't do it and then immediately expect to be "compensated" with sex though, meaning please don't say, "Hey honey I did the laundry now put out." (I have a friend who's husband does stuff like this) While 4 months may feel like an eternity your wife is still recovering from giving birth and the hormones are still running wild and will for several more months. If you had a healthy sex life before your son was born there's no reason to believe that things won't get better with time and it's not going to kill you to go without sex, though your wife might if you bug her about it.
 
My little man just turned 4 months old. He's still waking up once a night, but likes to pound his pack n play with his feet when we put him back to bed. Anyone else experience this? I'm pretty sure there's no secret or tips for getting him to sleep longer.

Also, is it normal for parents sex lives to dramatically decrease after having kids? I'm lucky if we get any alone time more than once a month. Speaking to my wife about it, she's almost constantly exhausted after we put our son to bed. I end up feeling guilty and selfish even bringing the topic up these days.

It's pretty common. Both parents are tired, mom still probably feels pretty ugh physically and mentally (especially if the mom is breastfeeding), etc. It's understandable that relations would drop off. But...it can be a pitfall for couples if you lose that intimacy and all focus is put on the baby. I was pretty worried about that since I'd seen it happen to friends so I put in a bit of effort even though I was fried to hell. I made it a goal to aim for at least 2x a week and it really paid dividends for us. I'd say 3x/week was the pre-sleep training average in the end? It's something to talk to your missus about, though.

Ask how you can help to get her some extra rest or just offer (an hour to herself for a bath, a nap, taking over some duties, etc.) and/or express how you want to do stuff as a couple/want her to feel special so make her dinner, get a sitter/help for even an hour to just do something together, send her off for a massage/spa... <--in general, not just for sex, obviously. Also, make sure there's nothing else putting her off like physical pain/discomfort. That stuff can linger for months and really kill any desire. Basically, it's not selfish to bring it up or want sex, but it definitely takes extra effort post-kids and can be kind of awkward to discuss bc you both feel weird/sleep deprived.

Also, if your 4 month old only wakes once a night, count yourself lucky! ;) As for tricks, all I can suggest pre-6month sleep training is to load him up with solids (puree bc bed) so he won't wake up from hunger. It's prob just habit, though.


These are fantastic :) I need to up my parenting game...

Thanks. :D It's actually really fun. I open a beer and chuck on a podcast and let my imagination run wild. Good times.

@hpro that looks adorable. If it makes you feel any better Charlotte's first day of preschool is also the first day I had to send a sick note.

Thanks, chica! And awwww about Charlotte. 'Tis the season, eh?
 
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Thanks for the responses. I'm not sure he's ready for solids just yet, but we're going to ask the doctor about that during his checkup.

As for the intimacy issues, we do still have a date night once a week. But we have to take our son with us due to her parents agreeing to only watch him overnight once a month. I'm not going to pressure her into it, but I'm going to talk to her about there being anything I can do to help so that we can get that part of our relationship back to normal. However, I predict that will come once he actually does start sleeping through the night.
 

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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name? The one we found that we both liked she now is wavering on because she found one person somewhere on a baby name site who said that was her name and people occasionally mispronounce it lol. I was hoping this was behind us.
 

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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name? The one we found that we both liked she now is wavering on because she found one person somewhere on a baby name site who said that was her name and people occasionally mispronounce it lol. I was hoping this was behind us.

My SO and I had a boy name picked out years before we needed one. A girl name, however, took forever. He hated everything I liked and I didn't like anything that he liked. We ended up agreeing on a name before she was born, but it was honestly not my favorite or his. Then the next year the Princess was born and she took the name so it's really blown up now. Oh well.
 

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We also had boy and girl names (two boy names--one of which we used--and one girl name) picked out well in advance. Girl names are harder, for some reason.
 

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Avocado is brain food, Podge. Embrace it!

Speaking of adventures in parenting...

My husband and I have been amusing ourselves by rearranging Mia's playroom at night after she goes to bed. Doing it almost every night is getting challenging, but with little free personal time it's a chore made fun. I'm entertained, anyway.

I thoroughly approve of your Grug books.
 

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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name? The one we found that we both liked she now is wavering on because she found one person somewhere on a baby name site who said that was her name and people occasionally mispronounce it lol. I was hoping this was behind us.

My wife and I are both teachers. It was practically impossible to come up with a name that hadn't been ruined for one of us.

There were quite a few girls names we liked, boys were really, really tough. Guess which we ended up with!
 

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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)?

Found lists of boys and girls names, each 5000 long and put them in two text files, one per line. Opened it in vim (where deleting a line is a single key press), and simply deleted every name I hated. Hour later, handed files with 200 names or so to partner and she did the same and we ended up with 20-30 names for each. Then we ignored it until a few weeks before the due date, when we decided we should make another stab at it, and composed a shortlist of first and middle name combos.

In the end, it took a week of trying out three different names (in sequence) on our actual baby before we settled on one that worked for us for her.
 

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My wife and I are both teachers. It was practically impossible to come up with a name that hadn't been ruined for one of us.

Ha, this is our problem too. Apparently she's had a crazy student of literally every name. Oh well, I'm sure the baby will get a name eventually whether she likes it or not.

Thanks for the advice all.
 

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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name? The one we found that we both liked she now is wavering on because she found one person somewhere on a baby name site who said that was her name and people occasionally mispronounce it lol. I was hoping this was behind us.

First kid was kinda tricky, she had one in mind which was a no-go for certain reasons, we compromised and later I realised that it had the similar issues to the first but by then was too late. The second one was a finger in the air moment and we both loved it. Everyone else is kinda "WTF?" about it but we love it, and it suits him wonderfully.

Real explanations require a specificity that I probably shouldn't share, I guess? I dunno, nobody else is so... XD
 
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My one year old just started being able to climb up one of our couches and reach the window. I feel like a boss in a Metroid game and he's constantly powering up.
 

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Somehow I missed that there was a parenting thread. Hi everyone!

How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name? The one we found that we both liked she now is wavering on because she found one person somewhere on a baby name site who said that was her name and people occasionally mispronounce it lol. I was hoping this was behind us.
We had a girl and we had our girl name picked way ahead of time. It was a character in a book we both liked. It is kind of unique, but not so rare that people would say, "huh?"
Coming up with a boy for just in case was tough. We decided we would have followed Jack Donaghy from 30 Rock's advice and stuck to kings and queens of Europe. We liked Charles.

Our 6 month old is having a tough time sleeping through the night. She is up multiple times. Most of the time she will put herself back to sleep, but we still have to get up with her 2-3 times (usually 3). We let her cry it out for like 30 minutes or so, but my wife always ends up feeding her for a couple minutes to get her to calm down and go back to sleep.

Any tips on breaking that nursing association in the middle of the night? She falls asleep just fine on her own with no aides, but will just wake up randomly and get herself worked up too much to put herself back asleep.
 

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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name? The one we found that we both liked she now is wavering on because she found one person somewhere on a baby name site who said that was her name and people occasionally mispronounce it lol. I was hoping this was behind us.

We basically went through every single name. Never agreeing on any one name.

Then out of the blue I say "wouldn't it just be simple if we could name her Eowyn?", to which my wife replies "what about Evelyn?". And that's how our daughter got her name.

It's a long and painful task. It's not supposed to be easy. You have to let it sink in. It's not like you're going to use the name anyway. You're going to call her Stinky, Puffin McMuffin, Bubbles and all manners of nicknames anyway.
 

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Our 6 month old is having a tough time sleeping through the night. She is up multiple times. Most of the time she will put herself back to sleep, but we still have to get up with her 2-3 times (usually 3). We let her cry it out for like 30 minutes or so, but my wife always ends up feeding her for a couple minutes to get her to calm down and go back to sleep.

Any tips on breaking that nursing association in the middle of the night? She falls asleep just fine on her own with no aides, but will just wake up randomly and get herself worked up too much to put herself back asleep.

I/We were too soft to let our baby cry themselves to sleep at that age, but I know that others have done so (even if it takes a an hour+ of crying). You could hold out hope that eventually she'll be old enough to drink from a water bottle by herself and self-soothe (but our almost three year old still sometimes wakes up crying "Mommy, daddy, where are you?" and requires patting/hugs to calm down).

How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name?

My spouse's extended family members all have names starting with the same letter (with a few exceptions), and that certainly helped. I had one largely unobjectionable name picked out since I myself was a kid (which met that naming criteria), and although we discussed a few others, my partner and I were pretty happy with it from the start. The one for the other gender we were able to narrow down to a handful of options pretty easily. But pregnancy lasts a long time, and it's hard not to second-guess yourselves. We definitely went through a few middle names.

In retrospect, we're both very happy with the first name we chose, but I wish we'd gone with my spouse's grandparent's name as the middle name (I also wish we'd changed our last name to a portmanteau of our respective original last names; I have a lot of minor regrets of this nature in my life).
 
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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)?

We were originally going to name my daughter Natalie Claire, but we realized that when you yelled it, it came out like Natalie Eclair.

My wife was reading a novel with a character named Mia, (yes, we have one of the many Mias) and she asked me what I thought of the name. I said, "I like it, but you know that in my mind going to be naming her after Mia Fey from the Ace Attorney games."

My wife, (who is an avid Ace Attorney fan,) thought for a moment, nodded, and said, "I'm okay with that."
 

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We were originally going to name my daughter Natalie Claire, but we realized that when you yelled it, it came out like Natalie Eclair.

My wife was reading a novel with a character named Mia, (yes, we have one of the many Mias) and she asked me what I thought of the name. I said, "I like it, but you know that in my mind going to be naming her after Mia Fey from the Ace Attorney games."

My wife, (who is an avid Ace Attorney fan,) thought for a moment, nodded, and said, "I'm okay with that."
Okay, so since you two are fans, what do you think of Ema?
 

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Okay, so since you two are fans, what do you think of Ema?

As a baby name? Sure, I suppose. Some might think it would be a little old fashioned and will try to spell it with two Ms. (Emma) Or they might ask why you didn't go with Emily. If you do go with Ema, then your child will probably constantly be correcting the spelling. ("Ema. One M.")

If you're asking about the character of Ema Skye, she's fine? She has Snackoos. (MUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCHMUNCH)
 

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How did everyone here wind up naming their kid(s)? And is it normal for your partner to hate literally every name? The one we found that we both liked she now is wavering on because she found one person somewhere on a baby name site who said that was her name and people occasionally mispronounce it lol. I was hoping this was behind us.

We went through a book of 50,000 names and still struggled! We did have certain criteria in mind, which I personally think is a good guide:

- Is it easy enough to both spell and pronounce? My mum and wife both have unusual names and have spent their lives having to correct people on their names, which is annoying.
- Does it work with the surname?
- Do you want something traditional or unusual? We personally didn't favour English traditional names (George, William, etc.) and wanted something a bit different, but not 'celebrity-crazy'.
- Can it be abbreviated, and would you want it to be? If it could, will it have lots of options (e.g. Liz, Lizzy, Beth, etc.) or just the one? Depends how important control of the name and how it's used is to you.
- Can it work for a baby, a child, a teenager, an adult, a lawyer, etc? We didn't want a cute baby name that would then sound daft if they wanted to be a professional one day.

I ended up hearing my son's name on a podcast from a listener's email to the presenters. They both commented that the listener's name was cool and that was how they seed was planted. We named our son Sullivan; easy to spell and pronounce, quite unusual, Sullivan (to us) sounds smart and "Sully" is cool for his mates.


Our 6 month old is having a tough time sleeping through the night. She is up multiple times. Most of the time she will put herself back to sleep, but we still have to get up with her 2-3 times (usually 3). We let her cry it out for like 30 minutes or so, but my wife always ends up feeding her for a couple minutes to get her to calm down and go back to sleep.

Any tips on breaking that nursing association in the middle of the night? She falls asleep just fine on her own with no aides, but will just wake up randomly and get herself worked up too much to put herself back asleep.

Sounds very normal and she is still quite young, so don't worry. If she's not genuinely hungry, I'd suggest offering her water from a bottle - she may gradually learn that it's not worth getting up for if there's no milk.

I'm personally not a huge fan of letting them cry it out for extended periods of time; as you'll be awake and stressed the whole time it's happening, and they'll feel a bit abandoned. Our son was terrible for settling in the evening - he would fall asleep in our arms no problem, but kick off as soon as you tried to put him down. We used a method of controlled crying which worked absolute wonders. This is the method in full:

TEACHING YOUR BABY TO SLEEP

It is important that your baby learns to go to sleep by himself. If he is rocked, shushed or fed to sleep then when he wakes in the night he will expect you to still be there as you were when he fell asleep. If he has got himself to sleep without your presence when he wakes, he will open his eyes, check around and find that everything is the same as when he fell asleep, feel secure and be much more likely to be able to fall back to sleep without any help. If he fell asleep in your arms or with you hanging over the cot looking at him and he wakes to find himself in his cot alone he is much more likely to panic and to start screaming for you!

So, when you put your baby to bed, make sure that he is awake (or at least vaguely aware of what is going on). When you have finished feeding him give him a big cuddle and say something like 'It is night time now sweetheart and you are going to sleep all night tonight in your own cot. I know that you can do this.' Give him a big kiss, put him in the cot and leave the room as fast as you can.

Stand outside and wait for the penny to drop! When he starts to cry go straight in and pick him up and give him a big cuddle. Calm him right down. He will now be thinking that you are going to do the rocking or the shushing or the swinging from the light bulb or whatever it is that you normally do to try and coax him to close those eyes and go to sleep. Remember from now on it is not your responsibility to get your baby to sleep – he is responsible for that. It is your job to make sure that the circumstances are such that he can get himself to sleep.

Once he is calm say again 'It is night time now sweetheart and you are going to sleep all night in your own cot. I know you can do this'. Give him a big kiss and put him in the cot and then beat your retreat as fast as is humanely possible.

Stand outside the bedroom door – you haven't got time to go anywhere! Once he realizes what is going on he is going to yell! Leave him for 30 seconds then go back in and pick him up and calm him down then repeat your mantra – put him back with a kiss and leave.

Repeat this at the following intervals:

1 minute
1 minute 30 seconds
2 minutes
2 minutes 30 seconds
3 minutes
3 minutes 30 seconds
4 minutes
4 minutes 30 seconds
5 minutes
5 minutes 30 seconds
6 minutes

If your baby is still awake go back to the 1 minute and then go in at 2 – 3 – 4 – 5 and 6 minutes. Repeat this last step as many times as is necessary.

I would be very surprised if you get this far. Generally by about the 5 minute mark there will be crying that is more of a yell than a cry, interspersed with periods of quiet as your baby listens to see if you have heard what he is indignantly trying to tell you and you are on your way back. On average a baby will give up and go to sleep somewhere between the 4 and 6 minute mark.

By picking your baby up and bringing him right back to calm every time we can avoid periods of prolonged crying which result in a baby being very distressed, bright purple and wondering if he can still trust you.

When I am physically on site this method has had a 100% success rate within a week, so far. If I am not there it tends to take longer. From speaking to parents who have tried to do this on their own I have worked out the 'shortcuts' they try to take which actually hinder the process.

  • Do stick to the timed intervals. Many parents have said that going in actually made the baby worse so they stopped going in as often as they should. This method is designed to make the child feel safe and secure and at the same time send a very clear message that you mean business this time. By not going in at the timed intervals the baby can fall asleep feeling anxious and then wake a little later. On the first night this is a normal pattern – he may need the reassurance that you are still there – but by night three you should only be having to attend to the baby very briefly in the night and he may well be sleeping through. By not going in as often as you should you can delay the whole process and I wouldn't like to comment on how secure the child will feel!
  • Do pick him up and give him a cuddle even though you may feel sure that it is making things worse and you have read in all the books that you shouldn't get him out the cot and shouldn't even make eye contact with him. Picking him up does two things – it reassures the child that you are not cross with him and the shock of being put back down reinforces quite quickly that you are not going to give up this time and that you are in charge. By picking up and putting down you send the message that you mean business as many times in ten minutes as you would if you shut the door and left him to cry every night for a week.
  • Also it worries me that the books all say 'Don't pick your child up or make any eye contact with them'. You would never behave like that during the day. You would never not look at your child or cuddle them if they were crying. Having a parent that behaves so differently at night must be scary for a baby. 'That looks like my mum but she isn't acting like my mum. What's going on?!!!' Comfort your child at night in the same way that you would during the daytime. They haven't done anything wrong. They are not in trouble. It's not their fault that they don't know how to get themselves to sleep so don't punish them – teach them.
  • Do have drink of water on hand. If you think he needs a drink because he has been very cross with you then give him this as soon as you go in. Once he has had his drink give him his cuddle and then carry on as normal. It is important to give the drink as soon as you go in so that he doesn't think he got it because he yelled. The last thing he needs to remember is the kiss and being put back down.

The same rule applies if he needs a nappy change, clothes change, nose wipe or anything else that makes him physically comfortable. If he should chose to make himself sick to put the frighteners on you be very matter of fact. Don't speak but clean him and his bedding up as quickly as possible and then carry on as though it hadn't happened. I would stress that this is very unlikely but want to cover every option that I can think of. Of course, this only applies if he has been sick because he is angry. If you have the slightest suspicion that your child may be unwell then YOU HAVE TO STOP! This method can only be used on a child you know is healthy.

If after you have laid him down he pops up and is standing in the cot leave the room anyway. When you go back in next time you will lay him down again. We do not want him to think that he can get you engaged in any kind of a 'game'. If you lay him back down he will only pop up again and this could go on all night! When he realizes that there is no point in standing up he will stop doing it and go to sleep.

The same applies if he throws things out of the cot and starts using dummies and muslins and teddies as missiles. Pick them up and put them back in the cot and then leave the room. Only put them back once. If they come flying out again leave them on the floor. When you go back in next time pick them up and put them back. He will soon learn that he gets them back but if he throws them again he has to wait. You may feel this will delay the process as he won't go to sleep without his teddy/dummy/mussi but it will avoid all game playing and put you completely in control.

MAKE SURE THE BOTTOM OF THE COT IS LOW ENOUGH SO THAT YOUR CHILD CANNOT ESCAPE. IF HE CAN STAND UP, THE TOP OF THE BARS SHOULD COME TO AROUND HIS CHEST AREA. IF HE CAN LEAN OVER THE WEIGHT OF HIS HEAD COULD PULL HIM OUT AND HE MAY HURT HIMSELF.

Once he has gone to sleep give him a few minutes and then stick your head in and check on him. If he has fallen asleep at the end of the cot then gently move him back to the middle in a comfy place. We don't want him waking up in 20 minutes because he has jammed himself at the end and has moved and bumped his head and woken himself. If he has fallen asleep on his own he is likely to be in a much deeper sleep than if you got him to sleep. If you do wake him then just start all over again. It will be easier to do that than to go to sleep for ten minutes and then have to wake up again.

Every time he wakes in the night start the process from the beginning. If you have been doing the process and thought he had gone to sleep but he hadn't then carry on from where you left off. Only start again if he has been asleep for more than 45 minutes e.g. if you were on the six minute interval and he had gone quiet for a few minutes fooling you into thinking he had gone to sleep and then he had started crying again go straight in and carry on from the six minute mark.

Expect the first night to be horrible –the second night to be rough and the third night to be much better. Many babies start sleeping through within a week – a couple of times I have seen this on the second night! Remember though – it may have been many months of bad sleeping habits before you reached out for help and we can't expect your baby to learn a whole new way in one night. It is a learning curve and you are on it together.

Do not start this unless you are sure that you can finish. By giving up halfway through you send the message that the baby is in charge and when you want to try and do it again it will be much more difficult for you and for your baby. He will think that you are having a laugh and that if he makes enough fuss you will give in so it will be harder for you to attempt the second time around than the first. You only have one chance to go at this from a clean place.

If you do go for it then DON'T GIVE UP! You will see the results quickly and it will be worth it. For a few nights it may be more work than you are currently having to do but in the long term it will pay off.
 

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Congratulations and welcome to the club! Glad that your boys are healthy, my daughter was also a twin but the other one didn't make it (in the first 12 weeks), stuff like this is always nerv wrecking. Week 26 is really early, I'm happy for you that everything worked out!

Yeah the first months can be rough, with very little sleep. But once they start to sleep the whole night, it gets easier... until they start running around in different directions and you have to catch them :)

Congratulations! So glad your kiddos are doing good.

Congratulations.

My little one (getting close to 3 years) is a fan of watching me play videogames (particularly Street Fighter V) and is pretty decent at some of Wii Sports, too. That's been quite useful this winter when we couldn't play outside.


Thanks to all of you for the warm welcome! Sad to hear about the other twin regawdless. You are absolutely correct, it is nerve wrecking - and most of the time there really is nothing you can do but hope. Your message brings perspective, and I feel both sad and lucky at the same time.

Really looking forward to the time when we can play video games together! so many worlds I want to share with my boys :)
 

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Thanks to all of you for the warm welcome! Sad to hear about the other twin regawdless. You are absolutely correct, it is nerve wrecking - and most of the time there really is nothing you can do but hope. Your message brings perspective, and I feel both sad and lucky at the same time.

It's the way life works and we have to appreciate what we have! Always be positive and give those little guys as much love as you can :-)
 

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Is there a 'safer' version of YouTube available? My toddler LOVES watching other kids play with trains and stuff on youtube, but I'm so reluctant to let him use it without constant vigilance as one click and he can end up on something I don't want him to watch. The Fire Pro came with a nice curated kids content list, but it doesn't have any access to the trains he wants to watch - kids playing with toy trains, basically.

The PinkFong stuff is sweet though.
 

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Is there a 'safer' version of YouTube available? My toddler LOVES watching other kids play with trains and stuff on youtube, but I'm so reluctant to let him use it without constant vigilance as one click and he can end up on something I don't want him to watch. The Fire Pro came with a nice curated kids content list, but it doesn't have any access to the trains he wants to watch - kids playing with toy trains, basically.

The PinkFong stuff is sweet though.

There's YouTube Kids, but it's still awful. I've transitioned over to the PBS Kids and Nick Jr apps (but no kids playing with trains there).
 

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What's the PBS Kids and Nick Jr app like for video content about colours? He likes to watch those videos and say what the colour is as they appear - again it's often trains and cars being painted a colour.
 

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Is there a 'safer' version of YouTube available? My toddler LOVES watching other kids play with trains and stuff on youtube, but I'm so reluctant to let him use it without constant vigilance as one click and he can end up on something I don't want him to watch. The Fire Pro came with a nice curated kids content list, but it doesn't have any access to the trains he wants to watch - kids playing with toy trains, basically.

The PinkFong stuff is sweet though.

If you are using a tablet, the app iTubeList is perfect. You basically add youtube playlists to it. He can only access the videos that are in the playlist. I made a customised playlist for my son. It's great.
 

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We use Kindle Free Time on the Kindle Fire, I haven't seen any train videos but I haven't looked. They do have drawing videos and baking videos, so it's possible they have trains. What I love about FreeTime is that Amazon approves everything on it. I believe there's a free trial after that it's $2.99 a month.