Easy Allies |OT| The New Era

issa · Jan 28, 2018

That last Fiasconaut is pretty week. It's a shame, the theme had a lot of potential. But Fiasco itself doesn't work quite as well with 3 players.
I need to get back to the last one too. I was groggy and ill when I watched it and couldn't follow anything lol.

sora87 said:
I really hope MHW is decent playing single player, none of my friends will be getting it lol

You can get matched with randos.

I bought it on a whim because everyone is playing it. Haven't gone online yet, and I wonder if my friends will have a place for me in their party. Also I spent an ungodly period of time on the character creator.

Kylac said:
I just wish the Hottakes were actually spicy. Often times it's a really bland topic that they take the middle of the road option on. No fire or passion or anything. Besides that Frame Trap is fine. I skip any game I'm not interested in which is like 90% these days but the discussions I do listen to are usually neat.

Exactly my point. The problem is with the name. It's like if they named a podcast that had nothing to do with fighting games something like Frame Trap.

DemonSwordsman · Jan 28, 2018

issa said:
That last Fiasconaut is pretty week. It's a shame, the theme had a lot of potential. But Fiasco itself doesn't work quite as well with 3 players.
I need to get back to the last one too. I was groggy and ill when I watched it and couldn't follow anything lol.

The star wars stuff was just too funny though.

Kneefoil · Jan 28, 2018

I really liked the last Fiasconauts, but opinions, etc. The Reindeer Academy script writing episode missed its mark for me, but people here seemed to love it. Haven't watched the table read EZUp yet.

Philippo · Jan 28, 2018

ShadyK54 said:
Apologies for the double post, but it's time for some Reindeer Academy!

This is going to become a big EZA side project, i'm calling it.

HMS_Pinafore · Jan 28, 2018

Been binge watching Fiasconaughts lately. So I'm going to RANK THE SIGNIFICANCE!

1. Fiasco at Regina's Wedding!

2. Heist

3. FIASCO AT CAMP DEATH!

4. FIASCO WITH THE TOURING ROCK BAND (

5. The Tallest Christmas Tree in the Nation

6. The Scoop

7. Fiasco at the pen show

8. Fiasco in Oasis Lake

9. Fiasco at the Zoo

10. Fiasco by the white hole

11. Dragon Slayers

11. Midnight at the Museum

12. Home Invasion Fiasco

13. Back To The Old House!

14. A super hero Fiasco

15. Fiasco on flight 1180

16. Camp Death II: The Deathenning!

Tregard · Jan 28, 2018

Hmm, can't rank them all, but of the one's I've watched fully:

1. Regina's Wedding
2. Heist
3. The Scoop
4. Fiasco With The Touring Rock Band
5. Fiasco At Camp Death
6. Midnight At The Museum
7. White Hole
8. Home Invasion

Deleted member 5086 · Jan 28, 2018

Haha, great Easy Update. Amanda was the star. I'd love to see an animated or comic book/storyboard version.

Stowaway Silfer · Jan 28, 2018

Deimo5 said:
Fighterz is fun, looks great and sounds great. Online situation eh but personally not much a competitive player. I need to play more of the story myself. Gameplay simple on the surface but there is depth if you work at it. I just need people to make guides since I'm not good at figuring these things out on my own. Also getting into the thought process of having a team of three with assists compared to 1v1.
They should be able to have a good enough time mainly mashing auto combos, super dashing and doing random supers in Dragon Ball for a tournament. Maybe learn a universal combo or two.
The tutorial and learning resources for novices are not good but they tend not to read those beforehand anyway lol.
The main thing is you can do cool looking stuff much more easily in this game than most other fighting games. Then the really cool stuff can be quite a bit more difficult than that but you already have enough to fill a couple of hours.

Only played a couple of MHW missions in between. Trying to do more before Weekly Hunts. Also that Horizon Zero Dawn stuff seems to be available for a limited time only. Ben's review should really be something.

Yeah the online lobby system is pretty bad. It is laughable that if all the lobbies are filled, you can't even play online. No private lobby for friends, no World Match matchmaker in the Personal Lobby (despite the fact that WMs don't actually limit you to the people in your lobby).

I think the tutorials are great though. Not legendary and award-worthy like Guilty Gear Xrd Rev but still great. Tutorials teach you pretty much everything (besides tagging in Assists for level 3 supers) and the combo trials teach you good combos for every character and show you every step clearly (I think SFV just shows you the moves names and you have to figure it out yourself).

But yes, what I love about this is that no matter what skill level players are playing at, what happens on screen is cool.

Kneefoil said:
Been playing on PC, almost entirely just story mode. The story mode's been way too easy so far, but IIRC, the game's told me that I'm still only 29% into the whole story, so it's still has a lot of time to ramp up. Gave arcade mode one try, too, and that mode made it very clear that I actually didn't know how to play the game well yet, and I actually lost my last match on Snake Way. Got the ranks S-B-D, C overall.

The more hectic fighting I experienced in the arcade mode also made me consider using a controller instead of the keyboard, which is usually my preferred method for fighting games. You need to use more buttons in DBFZ than in SFV, for example, so I feel like a controller layout might help me keep my fingers where they should be, and also help me execute my moves faster. Having to use my little finger in such a fast-paced game is not something I'm accustomed to.

Haven't tried multiplayer yet, but I'll get around to it eventually.

But yeah, the game's a ton of fun. I'm enjoying it a lot.

Story mode is very easy yeah. Even the last boss is surprisingly easy (well, surprising for me because people in the OT made a big deal about it and I defeated it with 90% health and I'm not a pro or anything like that)

Nijhazer said:
I'm enjoying it so far. It's my first Monster Hunter experience and is a more enjoyable solo game than I had expected. I can only play video games after 10pm Pacific, so multiplayer gaming for me is never going to happen, and it's a shame because I can already see what a great game MH would be with friends.

Nice! I was going through the FighterZ story mode first but now that I'm done, I'll be starting MHW in a few minutes. It's technically my first as well. I bought Freedom Unite on PSP but after an hour I didn't like it and never gave it another shot. Loved the beta for MHW though so I'll probably enjoy this greatly.
As for the online thing, maybe check in the OP to see if others play at similar hours.

ShadyK54 said:
Apologies for the double post, but it's time for some Reindeer Academy!

I think double posts are fine if there's a big gap in time like there was with yours and you're presenting a new thought or information. That's worth bumping the thread, to me at least.

tellNoel · Jan 28, 2018

Side Note: the L&R game that the Allies played on the last podcast was mine lol

Kneefoil · Jan 28, 2018

Silfer said:
I think the tutorials are great though. Not legendary and award-worthy like Guilty Gear Xrd Rev but still great. Tutorials teach you pretty much everything (besides tagging in Assists for level 3 supers) and the combo trials teach you good combos for every character and show you every step clearly (I think SFV just shows you the moves names and you have to figure it out yourself).

SFV defaults to showing move names, but you can switch it to show the required inputs instead.

Speaking of showing required inputs in tutorials, one problem I have with DBFZ's tutorials is that if you rebind your buttons, it doesn't update what buttons you have to press in the tutorials. It gets really confusing, and while I obviously haven't seen the game's code, I don't think changing the button prompts when the buttons are remapped would've been hard to code.

Joqu · Jan 28, 2018

Hm, I'd like to get into DBFZ but I don't have a whole lot of Dragon Ball experience so that's holding me back a bit. Then again I tend to have issues with getting into fighting games anyway, so maybe it's for the best.

klastical · Jan 28, 2018

The worst part of staying up late to watch easy update is not having an easy update to watch in the morning!

Stowaway Silfer · Jan 28, 2018

Kneefoil said:
SFV defaults to showing move names, but you can switch it to show the required inputs instead.

Speaking of showing required inputs in tutorials, one problem I have with DBFZ's tutorials is that if you rebind your buttons, it doesn't update what buttons you have to press in the tutorials. It gets really confusing, and while I obviously haven't seen the game's code, I don't think changing the button prompts when the buttons are remapped would've been hard to code.

Ooh I didn't know that. That's cool.

The button prompt thing sounds stupid. It'd be fine if they at least gave you the option of displaying "L, M, H, etc." like in GGXrd but since they don't it's dumb that it doesn't update with remapped controls.

Joqu said:
Hm, I'd like to get into DBFZ but I don't have a whole lot of Dragon Ball experience so that's holding me back a bit. Then again I tend to have issues with getting into fighting games anyway, so maybe it's for the best.

First step is to get into Dragon Ball cause it is awesome (well if you already like manga and/or anime).
But you'd probably have fun with the game without prior experience (though in that case it is obviously not a priority)

klastical said:
The worst part of staying up late to watch easy update is not having an easy update to watch in the morning!

I felt this way two weeks ago when, for the first time in more than two years since it started airing, I watched Dragon Ball Super Saturday evening instead of Sunday morning with breakfast like I usually do. I felt so weird on Sunday morning lol.

Joqu · Jan 28, 2018

Silfer said:
First step is to get into Dragon Ball cause it is awesome (well if you already like manga and/or anime).
But you'd probably have fun with the game without prior experience (though in that case it is obviously not a priority)

Yeah, but I kind of do want to get into a fighting game is all... Haven't even been able to get into Smash Bros though. lol

As for DB, some time ago I started watching the og series and I did have a good time with that. I dunno where I was at at this point but I should pick that up again.

Deleted member 176 · Jan 28, 2018

Amanda is such a pro haha

Deleted member 437 · Jan 28, 2018

Gimmick in the vote?

Automatic win.

Hasney · Jan 28, 2018

Mikey Jr. said:
Gimmick in the vote?

Automatic win.

Except for the times it doesn't. is this the new "Nintendo game in the poll? Automatic win"?

Stowaway Silfer · Jan 28, 2018

If y'all don't vote for FighterZ, best not come here and tell me.

Obviously I don't care and you can vote for whatever. I just really want FighterZ lol

Deleted member 437 · Jan 28, 2018

Hasney said:
Except for the times it doesn't. is this the new "Nintendo game in the poll? Automatic win"?

Most of the time it is.
This time it's especially bad. 3 fun games?

Nah, let's arbitrarily talk about 2018 games again.

MrMette · Jan 28, 2018

Silfer said:
If y'all don't vote for FighterZ, best not come here and tell me.

With the way the voting works now, it is possible for games to win weeks after they first were in the poll. See Nidhogg 2 as this was in the poll almost every time.
As long as it is DBFZ or the Prediction stream, it is fine with me. Also, DBFZ would be nice for a tournament instead of just a "regular" stream.

edit:
Btw, I changed my vote for you from the prediction stream to DBFZ as I don't really care which one of those two will win (although it probably doesn't really matter).

IDreamOfHime · Jan 28, 2018

So instead of playing games, we're having what is basically another podcast for the night.

Deleted member 437 · Jan 28, 2018

IDreamOfHime said:
So instead of playing games, we're having what is basically another podcast for the night.

Pretty much.

Stowaway Silfer · Jan 28, 2018

MrMette said:
With the way the voting works now, it is possible for games to win weeks after they first were in the poll. See Nidhogg 2 as this was in the poll almost every time.
As long as it is DBFZ or the Prediction stream, it is fine with me. Also, DBFZ would be nice for a tournament instead of just a "regular" stream.

edit:
Btw, I changed my vote for you from the prediction stream to DBFZ as I don't really care which one of those two will win (although it probably doesn't really matter).

Thanks.

Tregard · Jan 28, 2018

I feel like the Group Stream should always at least be a game of some sort.

Deleted member 18766 · Jan 28, 2018

I'm not keen on the gimmick streams people keep voting in. But if it's what the majority of voting patrons want, then I can't really complain - I'll just sit them out.

Hopefully whoever keeps suggesting multiple game streams realizes that the Allies stream preparedness doesn't fare well in those situations.

Stowaway Silfer · Jan 28, 2018

Yeah if people want something they'll vote for it and it's fine. I can just sit it out if I don't like it. It's just that's it's disappointing to see what could be asked of the EZA podcast to be a group stream. It'd be cool if they had a special stream for the predictions stuff, that way it doesn't take time away from a game but also it's not limited to 4 people. But obviously that increases the workload.

(In this case though I think I'm watching no matter what ends up winning)

False Witness · Jan 28, 2018

"He's just Brad though. He's just a legit pro."

Just got around to watching the Concert for Brad for the first time. It was brilliant.

Also, my wife and I just started playing Overcooked the other night and have been having an absolute blast. I got introduced to it in The Mole stream and have wanted to play it ever since.

Fanto · Jan 28, 2018

If a prediction stream is full of silly bets with some high stakes, then I could maybe get behind that haha.

Tregard · Jan 28, 2018

At least this opens up the potential for a Eurovision group stream night.

Stowaway Silfer · Jan 28, 2018

Tregard said:
At least this opens up the potential for a Eurovision group stream night.

Lmao

Deleted member 28523 · Jan 28, 2018

issa said:
Exactly my point. The problem is with the name. It's like if they named a podcast that had nothing to do with fighting games something like Frame Trap.

On the Easy Allies Podcast they played a game at one point called "Defend this Opinion" or something. Huber had to convince people that VR was worthless, Blood had something that I'm forgetting, and Brandon had CS:GO gambling being a good thing. Something like that for Hottake would be good where it's more like a debate club styled fight between the two guests. Ben Moore is the moderator poking and prodding them along with questions and trying to trick them up.

So the VR example could be that Huber has to say why it's so great and could for the industry/consumers but Bosman is forced to take the opposite position and talk about why VR is not worthwhile. Or the even the recent one of Frame Trap #47 "How do we feel about new entries simplifying the mechanics of a long-running series?" You could randomly select which of Ian and Huber gets which side of the argument.

I guess it turns more into a game at this point and overlaps with Caught in a Frame Trap sort of. And people might complain that we're not getting their "true" opinions about a subject but I think it would make it more interesting discussion Right now they'll make a argument and then immediately undercut what they just said by also providing the other side of the argument. I mean going nuts during some Hottakes and don't think their going in nearly strong enough. Although I generally have very strong divisive opinions.

Frame Trap is ~22 months old right now so thinking about mixing up the format or trying new things seems sensible. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Third Heat · Jan 28, 2018

I voted for Mario Party. *shrug*

But I'm one of the weirdos in the EZA community that never got into Dragon Ball (or any anime, in general) and doesn't care for fighting games. I mean, this past Gundam stream was a good two hours or so of things I've never heard of and can't relate to. It took some oinking for anything to make sense to me.

Also a predictions stream sounds boring. Save it for a one-off video or something. I'll gladly eat crow if Bosman comes up with something to spice it up, but I dunno. Seems more like a podcast than a stream.

ShadyK54 · Jan 28, 2018

Kyle will come up with something dumb enough to make predictions entertaining, probably. No doom just yet.

Dragon Ball taking a backseat for a tournament spot :jolly:

Dineren · Jan 28, 2018

Was there something odd going on with Ian's audio on Ben's end in the weekly hunts stream this morning? I just started watching the archive and 10 minutes in Ben has interrupted and talked over Ian multiple times and he seems to be able to hear him fine. I haven't usually noticed this happening before and it's kind of annoying.

Edit: Maybe I posted too early, it happened back to back a few times which was driving me crazy, but it doesn't seem to be a problem now.

demu · Jan 28, 2018

I will always vote for discussions on Group Streams, especially when the only real alternative is a fighting game. (shrug)
Also, it's not just another podcast. Show me the podcast where all nine Allies are involved. Don't you guys wanna hear Don's take on 2018?

Axass · Jan 28, 2018

Dragon Slayers - Top 5 videos of EZA, almost perfect, every scene is superb and the characters are super unique and funny
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Heist - Could pass for a wacky movie script until the heist aftermath, then falls off a cliff with the mafia part
Camp Death - Campy horror done perfectly, the death scenes are phenomenal, ending is bogus
The Touring Rock Band - Great all around, doesn't have true peaks of excellence though
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Regina's Wedding - Most grounded of them all, interesting relationships and many great scenes
Midnight at the Museum - Setting felt cozy, characters were good, surprise dinosaurs were hilarious
The Zoo - Very funny one, hell breaks lose but it's still coherent with itself
The White Hole - The one where goings bonkers was a feature, thanks to the setting
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Oasis Lake - Very nice characters and setting, but the whole NES thing destroyed it
Flight 1180 - Nice setup, loses steam while off the plane, plot is a little shallow
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The Tallest Christmas Tree in the Nation - Has some great moments, but lacks structure
The Pen Show - Didn't really go anywhere interesting, then gets too crazy all of a sudden
The Scoop - Didn't really go anywhere interesting, like at all
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Fiasco of Biblical Proportions - Started fine but soon went full on crazy supernatural, also too many people
Back to the Old House - Weird from start to finish, they didn't know where to go with it themselves
Super Hero Fiasco - Never really took off, too grounded for a super hero fiasco, boring
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Home Invasion - Lost me pretty early on, simply too out there
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Camp Death II: The Deathenning - Absolutely nonsensical

TheDarkKnight · Jan 28, 2018

It's arrived. If you're sensitive to an end game encounter beware of a critique with video footage from 8:30 - 9:15 of the video. I didn't mind it but I could see some wanting to avoid it

Really well done review Ben.

Auctopus · Jan 28, 2018

Hahaha, that Leamington Spa, Warwickshire delivery.

EdReedFan20 · Jan 28, 2018

If Reindeer Academy ever became a thing, I actually would prefer it do be done via stop-motion like the classic Rudolph. I know it was described as an anime in that Fiasco episode, but stop-motion just feels so right to me here.

issa · Jan 29, 2018

Tregard said:
I feel like the Group Stream should always at least be a game of some sort.

Agreed. It started with hall of greats for people who didn't care for the group stream to realize it could be something else.

dickroach · Jan 29, 2018

Bloodworth
just curious. i feel like it was prob asked before, but why don't you break down the podcast and frame trap and things like that into segments to have a nice little 10-20 minute chunks to throw up on youtube every day? they're already segmented
i dont have social medias, so i figured id ask here.

MrMette · Jan 29, 2018

dickroach said:
Bloodworth
just curious. i feel like it was prob asked before, but why don't you break down the podcast and frame trap and things like that into segments to have a nice little 10-20 minute chunks to throw up on youtube every day? they're already segmented
i dont have social medias, so i figured id ask here.

They are already segmented with timestamps if you watch it in a browser. Cutting them in parts and re-encoding/reupload each part seems a lot more work then just putting some timestamps.
Also, some people will like this more and others won't. I like it being one big file in which in can just click the timetamps if needed for most of the time (I usually listen/watch it during work).

Also, youtube usually remembers where you were in a video (which is something I am using more and more for streams as well). You can quit a long video midway as long as you are logged in and if you start it up again, it will continue from where you left. If you do this with shorter videos it tends not to work as well as the system marks something as completely watched if you watch x % of the video (not sure how far you have to be).

dickroach · Jan 29, 2018

MrMette said:
They are already segmented with timestamps if you watch it in a browser. Cutting them in parts and re-encoding/reupload each part seems a lot more work then just putting some timestamps.
Also, some people will like this more and others won't. I like it being one big file in which in can just click the timetamps if needed for most of the time (I usually listen/watch it during work).

Also, youtube usually remembers where you were in a video (which is something I am using more and more for streams as well). You can quit a long video midway as long as you are logged in and if you start it up again, it will continue from where you left. If you do this with shorter videos it tends not to work as well as the system marks something as completely watched if you watch x % of the video (not sure how far you have to be).

i'm not talking about the user experience. i love that the videos are timestamped. that's great. i'm talking about the basic youtube formula to get more viewers n shit. people watch 10 minute videos.
just curious

DemonSwordsman · Jan 29, 2018

With the sea of thieves and mh streams, I wonder if the allies could dual stream on twitch and Mixer. Mixer has this multiperson stream feature where the whole party can stream at the same time to one channel. But haven't watched many streams on mixer to know how it works but seems pretty cool.

Bloodworth · Jan 29, 2018

dickroach said:
Bloodworth
just curious. i feel like it was prob asked before, but why don't you break down the podcast and frame trap and things like that into segments to have a nice little 10-20 minute chunks to throw up on youtube every day? they're already segmented
i dont have social medias, so i figured id ask here.

Well, one, I'm not the producer of either of those podcasts, so it wouldn't be up to me. You should be asking Kyle or Ben. But secondly, even if we were going to do something like that, we'd really need to limit it to one show. Would be very easy to flood the channel with repetitive segments. Third, a lot of seemingly simple things do take time when you add it all up. Waiting for exports and uploads, making extra thumbnails, setting up the videos, writing descriptions, etc. That's time that could be spent producing something new.
If it were to happen at all, Frame Trap would make the most sense to me as there are a lot discussions based around single games that aren't time sensitive like the news segments on the main podcast.

dickroach · Jan 29, 2018

Bloodworth said:
Well, one, I'm not the producer of either of those podcasts, so it wouldn't be up to me. You should be asking Kyle or Ben. But secondly, even if we were going to do something like that, we'd really need to limit it to one show. Would be very easy to flood the channel with repetitive segments. Third, a lot of seemingly simple things do take time when you add it all up. Waiting for exports and uploads, making extra thumbnails, setting up the videos, writing descriptions, etc. That's time that could be spent producing something new.
If it were to happen at all, Frame Trap would make the most sense to me as there are a lot discussions based around single games that aren't time sensitive like the news segments on the main podcast.

i know! i just know youre always checking here and other places and i dont know how to get to them without social media.
and i hear ya. i just think it could be good for the channel. just spitballing. there's channels i really dont care about but ill click a ~10min video on on youtube because... it's not an investment? it's digestible. i dunno.
the thing that brought the idea to my mind was the CUPodcast with Pat Contri. his podcast is on youtube is broken up into like 10 min segments, and i check it sometimes even though i'd prob never listen to the podcast as a whole.

MrMette · Jan 29, 2018

dickroach said:
i'm not talking about the user experience. i love that the videos are timestamped. that's great. i'm talking about the basic youtube formula to get more viewers n shit. people watch 10 minute videos.
just curious

You say that, but I just watched a video some weeks ago from a youtuber where he explained that he was probably going to switch to 1 longer video instead of a few shorter ones because it makes them more money even if less people watch the longer video (that said, I don't think he switched yet, possibly because of backlash).

The youtube algorithms change constantly and I am not sure whats true and whats not about this, but I am not sure if it makes much of a difference. As far as I understand the new algorithm sees watchtime as the most important metric (although maybe it has already changed again). So people tend to create videos over 10 minutes because they count for more.

Also, I have seen on other channels where they splitted up that it's not because you normally get 20 000 views on your whole video that all parts will get 20 000 views. You won't get 60 000 views by splitting a video into 3 parts as people tend to only watch the parts they are interested in.

I am not sure with the amount of videos they produce they really need to fill out the channel more. I can see people do this when they only create 1 podcast per week or something to fill out the channel each day. It is much more important to have new content regularly then anything else imo.

abrack · Jan 29, 2018

I don't know the reasons behind it but Kinda Funny used to break up their gaming podcast into smaller segments and then last year switched to one video only. I would guess that meant there wasn't enough of a benefit to keep doing it that way.

Deleted member 5086 · Jan 29, 2018

abrack said:
I don't know the reasons behind it but Kinda Funny used to break up their gaming podcast into smaller segments and then last year switched to one video only. I would guess that meant there wasn't enough of a benefit to keep doing it that way.

I think it's because they started doing the daily podcasts.

Deleted member 15933 · Jan 29, 2018

DBFZ as a non-tournament night stream is a waste. I didn't like the Nidhogg stream for this exact reason. These games thrive on competition, so I really think people do the game a favour, saving it for tournament night.

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