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OldGit_Gamer

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As an aside to the league, how about a one on one shootout tournament?
Obviously, time to race would have to be benificial for both parties, track / car class to be the same for all heats ( quali/quarter finals / semi + final ect).

As long as the numbers are even, then the entry field would be pretty much unlimited. ;)
 

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Guys, are we sure about those tires?
I'm making 4, max 5 laps on hardest one available - there will be lots and lots of pit stops.

The point is to simulate a multiclass endurance race in 30 minutes. 4-5 laps if your pushing hard is about right and it means over the course of 30 minutes you will pit 2 or 3 times (dependant on how fast you are) if you maintain the same strategy throughout the race.

If there are no pit stops and no opportunity for pit strategy then there's no point IMO. I tested multiple tire/fuel settings and this one offered the best balance in terms of offering people the option to run with rich fuel, burn rubber and pit more... or go leaner, trust the tires and pit less.

I ran 2 completely different strategies and they were within 2 seconds of each other. So the aim is to make it balanced either way and not have only one viable strategy that completely runs away with it, which is what you tend to find on the Sport mode daily races.
 
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As an aside to the league, how about a one on one shootout tournament?
Obviously, time to race would have to be benificial for both parties, track / car class to be the same for all heats ( quali/quarter finals / semi + final ect).

As long as the numbers are even, then the entry field would be pretty much unlimited. ;)

This sounds great. I'm game.
 

eyeball_kid

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prarts

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It takes 6 laps until my tank is empty with richest fuel map, tires (if taken care of) barely manages to have some grip left in them. So there's no point to set leaner fuel map for more laps per tank if tires wouldn't last.

So it's pit after every 6 lap for my Mercedes. Easy. I'm excited for this multiclass race, should be interesting ;-)

My weapon (slow ass with beautiful engine notes):
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Sejanoz

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Team Lambo (AbandonedTrolley and I) is ready:
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Don't mind the pit stops, should make it interesting. According to my testing there are a number of viable strategies, it could come down to traffic!
oh definitely.


GHG Should Gr3 cars have a little headstart during quali (so Gr4 cars don't slow them down)? Or since most people will pit to change tyres it doesn't matter?

And a little warning for all: in my experience with endurance races online, the leaderboard on the left of the screen can start showing people in wrong places (I think it's the pitstops that mess with the game) and wrong lead times (like suddenly being stuck to "1:06"). Post-race result screen will always show actual placements though.

Also the post-race countdown can go on for over three minutes, even if all the drivers finished their last lap. That's normal, don't leave the race.

(This happened a little more than a month ago, so maybe it's been patched)
 

eyeball_kid

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Team Lambo (AbandonedTrolley and I) is ready:
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oh definitely.


GHG Should Gr3 cars have a little headstart during quali (so Gr4 cars don't slow them down)? Or since most people will pit to change tyres it doesn't matter?

Nice livery, did you do those?

Maybe we should have separate qualifying sessions for Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars to avoid that potential slowdown? I know that having to maneuver around a slow car in a regular single-class race during qualifying is bad enough during qualifying, though with the speed difference in this case it might not be so bad unless you catch someone in a corner.
 

Sejanoz

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Nice livery, did you do those?

Maybe we should have separate qualifying sessions for Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars to avoid that potential slowdown? I know that having to maneuver around a slow car in a regular single-class race during qualifying is bad enough during qualifying, though with the speed difference in this case it might not be so bad unless you catch someone in a corner.
AbandonedTrolley picked the design, I found the decals, and we made them separately!
I saw he shared the livery, so I downloaded it and snapped a pic :P
 

eyeball_kid

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Guess who finally graduated to DR C! With a 5th place finish at the FIA Nurburgring GP race in the Ferrari and a 2nd place win at the Gr.1 daily, I finally made it. Actually had the pole on that one, but some jerk divebombed me on turn 1. Went down to 4th and fought my way back up. Would've had first but this guy blocked me on the final straight.

It doesn't quite feel like a whole new thing because I've already been racing DR S-C folk for a month, but it's nice to finally get out of that pit.

AbandonedTrolley picked the design, I found the decals, and we made them separately!
I saw he shared the livery, so I downloaded it and snapped a pic :P

Good work, looks really good!

Love the team livery aspect. Replays are going to look amazing.

Definitely! Speaking of the Ferrari livery, I actually tracked down the guy who did it and he was pretty excited to see it in the game. Dude is really talented, all of his liveries are ace.
 

DHC-Shannow

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Some great looking cars, I think this event is going to be really special :-)

I thought I'd made a horrible mistake last night when I had a bit of practice on Ruttyboys lobby, with cooldawn and prarts - my car was dog slow and I couldn't get within 3.6 seconds of Ruttys fastest lap. Turns out I'd set the car with the GR4 bop settings and was nearly 100 bhp down in power and 50kg up in weight! Hopefully things will be a bit better tonight...

Congrats on the DR levelling up eyeball, nice one :-)
 

JamboGT

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Team liveries is a great idea, can you find something for us JamboGT?
I'll search too if time permits.
I made one the other night for the AMG, will get a picture, if you want to go with a team though that is cool.

I haven't got any practice in because of Monster Hunter....

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This is what I was going to go with, I would make a Group 4 version but honestly today I will be on Monster Hunter again haha
 
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ruttyboy

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Some great looking cars, I think this event is going to be really special :-)

I thought I'd made a horrible mistake last night when I had a bit of practice on Ruttyboys lobby, with cooldawn and prarts - my car was dog slow and I couldn't get within 3.6 seconds of Ruttys fastest lap. Turns out I'd set the car with the GR4 bop settings and was nearly 100 bhp down in power and 50kg up in weight! Hopefully things will be a bit better tonight...

Congrats on the DR levelling up eyeball, nice one :-)
For shame, sand-bagging already! ;-)

To be serious though, I did think something was up, I thought the game would penalise MR harder than FR, but that seemed really extreme. I was going to message GHG about the possibility of tweaking the BoP settings if the disparity was going to be that big. What kind of lap time are you hitting with the right settings?

As for liveries, I got a Red Bull Blancpain one off Discovery which is a lot more in your face than my usual taste, but I quite like it, apart from the wheels which are a pukey metallic gold. Not a lot of good Aston Gr.3 liveries about though.
 

DHC-Shannow

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For shame, sand-bagging already! ;-)

To be serious though, I did think something was up, I thought the game would penalise MR harder than FR, but that seemed really extreme. I was going to message GHG about the possibility of tweaking the BoP settings if the disparity was going to be that big. What kind of lap time are you hitting with the right settings?

As for liveries, I got a Red Bull Blancpain one off Discovery which is a lot more in your face than my usual taste, but I quite like it, apart from the wheels which are a pukey metallic gold. Not a lot of good Aston Gr.3 liveries about though.
I suspect I'm still going to be down on pace having seen what you were doing - with Mediums I could do 2.01/2.02 and with softs 1.59/2.00 - I then did a time trial and did a high 1.57 on super soft but I think you managed that on soft tyres didn't you?
 

ruttyboy

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I suspect I'm still going to be down on pace having seen what you were doing - with Mediums I could do 2.01/2.02 and with softs 1.59/2.00 - I then did a time trial and did a high 1.57 on super soft but I think you managed that on soft tyres didn't you?

Don't worry, I can time trial all day, but always crumble under the pressure of actual racing.

cooldawn - I've reposted a livery I think you could use to my activity feed. It's the closest one I could find to mine, but if you can find another you'd prefer, no problems, and if you can find a better one for both of us let me know.
 

Psycho_Mantis

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Haven't had time to practice. Could someone please tell me how many laps the race is and how long RH and fuels lasts for Gr.3 :p
 

Sejanoz

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14 laps with pitstops for Gr4 cars I think

Btw, does a Gr4 driver get any points for fastest lap in his group? Should be able check it post-race with the replay
 

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Attention reserve drivers (anx10us OldGit_Gamer gutterboy44 Rukumouru ) or anyone else who has been following this thread and wants to get involved tonight:

A slot has become available tonight as FeD will be unable to make it. Car details and the BOP settings you will need to apply upon entering the lobby are as follows:

  • 2016 BMW M6 GT3 (Walkenhorst Motorsport) Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 98%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 102%
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First person to respond to me (I'll also be sending you all a PM) gets the slot.
 

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14 laps with pitstops for Gr4 cars I think

Btw, does a Gr4 driver get any points for fastest lap in his group? Should be able check it post-race with the replay

Yes 10 points will also go to the fastest GR4 driver (the qualifying bonus points will also apply). I'll have to check the results screen/replay data to get everything I need after the race.
 

DHC-Shannow

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Attention reserve drivers (anx10us OldGit_Gamer gutterboy44 Rukumouru ) or anyone else who has been following this thread and wants to get involved tonight:

A slot has become available tonight as FeD will be unable to make it. Car details and the BOP settings you will need to apply upon entering the lobby are as follows:

  • 2016 BMW M6 GT3 (Walkenhorst Motorsport) Gr.3 - Power Ratio : 98%, Weight Reduction Ratio: 102%
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First person to respond to me (I'll also be sending you all a PM) gets the slot.

Fingers crossed it's not old git, put him in that BMW and he'll be even more uncatchable than he is normally!
 

JamboGT

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Am not expecting too much as the Merc seems a bit slow with BoP on but hopefully will be nice and consistent.
 

prarts

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This is what I was going to go with, I would make a Group 4 version but honestly today I will be on Monster Hunter again haha
Very nice man, I could race with its GR4 edition. Maybe for the second race?
Silver arrows aren't competitive in their classes but we will score some points... hopefully ;-)
 

Sejanoz

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I suggest everybody creates a new tuning sheet with those BoP values, so you don't have to worry about forgetting them or adjusting them every time you're about to race.

Servers down for anyone else?

This would be such shit timing...
Yeah, they were down for me as well. PSN has been acting up all week :/
 

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I'm back on after doing this:

Try some of these solutions I found on the Playstation EU Community board.


Some options that should get this working for everybody:



  1. Select Power from the function screen, then go to [Power Options]> [Turn Off PS4]
  2. Access https://www.playstation.comand select the sign in icon on the top right-hand side of the page
  3. Confirm successful sign-in to PlayStation.com
  4. Turn on your PS4 and log in again


Otherwise try this:



1. Log out via quick menu or the power options far right of XMB.

2. Log back in with the appear online option.

3. Head to your user profile and change online status to appear offline.

4. Once this is done initially appear offline/online should toggle normally.



If that doesn't work then try this:



  1. Settings > Account Management > Sign Out
  2. Quick Menu (via holding down PS button) > Power > log out of PS4
  3. Restart PS4
  4. On Start up screen, click Options and click 'Log in with online status'
  5. Settings > Account Management > Sign in

The first one worked for me.
 

cooldawn

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Could we do something...all GR3 racers put lights on main beam and all GR4 drivers turn light off/down. Trying to make as clear a distinction between the classes behind me. I'm a bit worried about it.

The point is to simulate a multiclass endurance race in 30 minutes. 4-5 laps if your pushing hard is about right and it means over the course of 30 minutes you will pit 2 or 3 times (dependant on how fast you are) if you maintain the same strategy throughout the race.

If there are no pit stops and no opportunity for pit strategy then there's no point IMO. I tested multiple tire/fuel settings and this one offered the best balance in terms of offering people the option to run with rich fuel, burn rubber and pit more... or go leaner, trust the tires and pit less.

I ran 2 completely different strategies and they were within 2 seconds of each other. So the aim is to make it balanced either way and not have only one viable strategy that completely runs away with it, which is what you tend to find on the Sport mode daily races.
I don't know if anyone else had the same issue I had yesterday but testing with DHC-Shannow, ruttyboy and parts I only managed 3 'good' laps on Medium tyres. The forth lap a considerable fall-off in performance and the fifth lap was pointless. I'll need to pit every 4 laps at the very least but, considering the settings, every 3 laps is ideal.

Of course I'm saying this but I don't know if others have had the same experience. I know, for instance, ruttyboy can deal with 5 laps just fine so it might be just me. In which case, damn. Ha.

It takes 6 laps until my tank is empty with richest fuel map, tires (if taken care of) barely manages to have some grip left in them. So there's no point to set leaner fuel map for more laps per tank if tires wouldn't last.

So it's pit after every 6 lap for my Mercedes. Easy. I'm excited for this multiclass race, should be interesting ;-)
Damn, 6 laps before a pit-stop. That's insane. Is that before your tyre are completely warn or just the point where you feel they fall-off in performance?

Should the Aston Martin GR4 be this bad or is it just me!

cooldawn - I've reposted a livery I think you could use to my activity feed. It's the closest one I could find to mine, but if you can find another you'd prefer, no problems, and if you can find a better one for both of us let me know.
Cool. I'll grab the one on your activity feed.
 

JamboGT

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We could do light colours, clear for group 4 and yellow for group 3? Might need to edit liveries for that though?
 

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Could we do something...all GR3 racers put lights on main beam and all GR4 drivers turn light off/down. Trying to make as clear a distinction between the classes behind me. I'm a bit worried about it.


I don't know if anyone else had the same issue I had yesterday but testing with DHC-Shannow, ruttyboy and parts I only managed 3 'good' laps on Medium tyres. The forth lap a considerable fall-off in performance and the fifth lap was pointless. I'll need to pit every 4 laps at the very least but, considering the settings, every 3 laps is ideal.

Of course I'm saying this but I don't know if others have had the same experience. I know, for instance, ruttyboy can deal with 5 laps just fine so it might be just me. In which case, damn. Ha.


Damn, 6 laps before a pit-stop. That's insane. Is that before your tyre are completely warn or just the point where you feel they fall-off in performance?

Should the Aston Martin GR4 be this bad or is it just me!


Cool. I'll grab the one on your activity feed.

Tire wear varies dependant on driving styles. You should definitely be able to get more than 3 laps out of the mediums. Things like turning while the brake is still being applied or throwing the car into corners will increase wear. If you're only able to get 3/4 laps then you might as well go with one of the softer compounds.
 

cooldawn

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We could do light colours, clear for group 4 and yellow for group 3? Might need to edit liveries for that though?
That would work.

Tire wear varies dependant on driving styles. You should definitely be able to get more than 3 laps out of the mediums. Things like turning while the brake is still being applied or throwing the car into corners will increase wear. If you're only able to get 3/4 laps then you might as well go with one of the softer compounds.
Yeah, it's baffling. Maybe it's the difference between 'joypad' and 'wheel' users? Smoother inputs are always better for tyre management.

I'm going to properly test Soft now. I did some Soft tyre use yesterday and they didn't fall-off as quickly as I thought.
 
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Oh, I just thought about the tunings etc, are people fiddling with ride heights and gear ratios etc? They're usually fixed in BOP aren't they?
 

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Oh, I just thought about the tunings etc, are people fiddling with ride heights and gear ratios etc? They're usually fixed in BOP aren't they?

Tuning is prohibited. You shouldn't be able to change any of that stuff in the car settings menu.

Just apply the BOP settings for your car that I mentioned in the post on the last page and you're good to go.
 

DHC-Shannow

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Could we do something...all GR3 racers put lights on main beam and all GR4 drivers turn light off/down. Trying to make as clear a distinction between the classes behind me. I'm a bit worried about it.


I don't know if anyone else had the same issue I had yesterday but testing with DHC-Shannow, ruttyboy and parts I only managed 3 'good' laps on Medium tyres. The forth lap a considerable fall-off in performance and the fifth lap was pointless. I'll need to pit every 4 laps at the very least but, considering the settings, every 3 laps is ideal.

Of course I'm saying this but I don't know if others have had the same experience. I know, for instance, ruttyboy can deal with 5 laps just fine so it might be just me. In which case, damn. Ha.


Damn, 6 laps before a pit-stop. That's insane. Is that before your tyre are completely warn or just the point where you feel they fall-off in performance?

Should the Aston Martin GR4 be this bad or is it just me!


Cool. I'll grab the one on your activity feed.

Is it your front or rears burning out? Fronts you need to adjust your driving style and try to be less aggressive on your turn in, but if it's rears then try turning up your TC, it can make a big difference. Nurb GP has lots of long slow corners where it's easy to slide your fronts by going in too fast and wearing them or spin up your rears on exit.
 

Sejanoz

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Could we do something...all GR3 racers put lights on main beam and all GR4 drivers turn light off/down. Trying to make as clear a distinction between the classes behind me. I'm a bit worried about it.
I wouldn't worry too much, if they are faster they'll eventually overtake you. Should always be the guy behind to judge when/how to try a pass.

My Lambo doesn't show different headlights, I guess it's just the intensity that changes. So one probably couldn't tell during the race.

Ideally we should all have class decals (PRO, PRO-AM, AM...) on the back of the car, so the guy behind knows who's in front of him... But I never understood which decals should go with which class.

There are user decals like that to download