I absolutely loathe Trump. I think he's a disgusting, petty little human being, but if he were to actually solve world hunger, I'd tip my hat to him.
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Davos - Shithole Leader - 30 minutes of him
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I absolutely loathe Trump. I think he's a disgusting, petty little human being, but if he were to actually solve world hunger, I'd tip my hat to him.
This man is never ever worthy of any respect or special consideration for what he says. He is 100% full of pure unfiltered bullshit.
Racist sexist transphobic homophobic islamophobic dumb fuck.
Racist sexist transphobic homophobic islamophobic dumb fuck.
You're not going to look at a broken clock and go, "you know what, twice a day this thing shows the correct time...respect."
Plus considering what he has been doing the past two years, how do you know he's not just saying shit for the audience in front of him?
I'm not sure if he does have any good ideas, but have a scan through this thread for an answer to your question.
Here's the thing. Trump says what you want to hear at the time. He also may have some views that are inherently good or non threatening. The problem is. He isn't beholden to them.
This is the same man who said before he ran for President that Dreamers and DACA recipeints are Americans and it would be a shame to deport this group of people. Fast foward to today..Trump with the help of racist aides are deporting the very people he said should be here. Not to mention he's pretty much changed his tune.
This is the same man who said before he ran for President that Dreamers and DACA recipeints are Americans and it would be a shame to deport this group of people. Fast foward to today..Trump with the help of racist aides are deporting the very people he said should be here. Not to mention he's pretty much changed his tune.
What those places? Nothing is actually stopping you from having a discussion about Trump's policies. Do you think you would get banned for agreeing with Trump?
Okay? Of course there are going to be people who have no desire to engage with Trump supporters but nothing is actually stopping anyone from discussing Trump's policies.
Broken clock syndrome.
Additionally his empty words mean less than nothing. His childish desire to be liked by everyone means he will say whatever the person he's talking to wants to hear. Then immediately change his tune. Sometimes even in the same sentence.
Additionally his empty words mean less than nothing. His childish desire to be liked by everyone means he will say whatever the person he's talking to wants to hear. Then immediately change his tune. Sometimes even in the same sentence.
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Well people are engaging, but at he mere suggestion that Trump said something that wasn't moronic/sexist/racist/misogynistic/whatever and you get shouted down, called a "fucking idiot" and told to "shove it up your ass". How is any discussion meant to happen under those circumstances?
Let me just say, I had no idea what this thread was about prior to clicking on it. I get that people want to insult the President, but could we at least put "Trump" in the title of the thread so we know what it's about and who we're talking about?
Why even pop in and say anything then? Just say why you support him. don't be coy and say this isn't the place to discuss it. How do you expect people to react? What are his good ideas?
This is an interesting thread.
I do think Trump's overall legacy will be irrepressibly negative, due mostly to his life appointments of individuals to the federal judiciary who range from unqualified and regressive to absolutely batshit, his epitomizing of the the massive, thriving force for racism that continues to greatly impact the policies of the US government, and finally, America's likely forever-tarnished international standing and influence due to Trump's complete lack of understanding of competent foreign policy and his overall disparagement of the office of Presidency.
At the same time, there's a chance it's all rising to the surface much earlier than it would have if Clinton had become President. White supremacy, misogyny, transphobia, bigotry-- it's all getting reckoned with to a substantial extent due to Trump's conduct. We may get a successor as symbolically consequential as Kamala Harris in office next just because Trump is fucking up that hard. Barring tolerated voter repression, GOP complicity with foreign interference, and independents and undecideds showing up in droves for the Republican party in 2018 and 2020, Democrats might actually regain control of congress and restore a functioning fucking government that-- bonus-- leans hard to the left to align with the growing democratic socialist movements among the majority of Millennials who aren't polo-donning dumbshit Nazis or reality-suppressing Evangelicals.
It's fair to be optimistic, still, I think. We're fucked, oh, we're fucked for good; but we can make the best of the apocalyptic situation we're stuck with in the meantime. As far as defending Trump due to his decisions or empathizing with his situation, no, he's a sick, lonely, entitled, disgusting, oblivious, terrified, sad human. He's among the worst of what humanity is capable of producing.
If the motives for wanting to redeem Trump as a leader at this point were a pie chart, I'd bet that the "ingrained tribalism" portion, or a latent instinct to maintain and protect white male supremacy, would look like Pac-Man with his mouth almost shut.
And if I were to hypothetically respond to that excruciatingly common tendency, I would recommend exercises that force one to empathize with, or place one's self in the situation of, people outside of one's assigned physical categories and without the resources one unconsciously takes for granted. If there's remaining nuance outside of those mild-to-major sectarian factors, I'm actually interested in discussing and highlighting it, for what little it will achieve in the face of the inarguable, comprehensive detriment Trump alone has brought to the entire planet due to the enormous insecurities and ignorance that have been fed and fostered by centuries-old American precepts of justified inequity.
I do think Trump's overall legacy will be irrepressibly negative, due mostly to his life appointments of individuals to the federal judiciary who range from unqualified and regressive to absolutely batshit, his epitomizing of the the massive, thriving force for racism that continues to greatly impact the policies of the US government, and finally, America's likely forever-tarnished international standing and influence due to Trump's complete lack of understanding of competent foreign policy and his overall disparagement of the office of Presidency.
At the same time, there's a chance it's all rising to the surface much earlier than it would have if Clinton had become President. White supremacy, misogyny, transphobia, bigotry-- it's all getting reckoned with to a substantial extent due to Trump's conduct. We may get a successor as symbolically consequential as Kamala Harris in office next just because Trump is fucking up that hard. Barring tolerated voter repression, GOP complicity with foreign interference, and independents and undecideds showing up in droves for the Republican party in 2018 and 2020, Democrats might actually regain control of congress and restore a functioning fucking government that-- bonus-- leans hard to the left to align with the growing democratic socialist movements among the majority of Millennials who aren't polo-donning dumbshit Nazis or reality-suppressing Evangelicals.
It's fair to be optimistic, still, I think. We're fucked, oh, we're fucked for good; but we can make the best of the apocalyptic situation we're stuck with in the meantime. As far as defending Trump due to his decisions or empathizing with his situation, no, he's a sick, lonely, entitled, disgusting, oblivious, terrified, sad human. He's among the worst of what humanity is capable of producing.
If the motives for wanting to redeem Trump as a leader at this point were a pie chart, I'd bet that the "ingrained tribalism" portion, or a latent instinct to maintain and protect white male supremacy, would look like Pac-Man with his mouth almost shut.
And if I were to hypothetically respond to that excruciatingly common tendency, I would recommend exercises that force one to empathize with, or place one's self in the situation of, people outside of one's assigned physical categories and without the resources one unconsciously takes for granted. If there's remaining nuance outside of those mild-to-major sectarian factors, I'm actually interested in discussing and highlighting it, for what little it will achieve in the face of the inarguable, comprehensive detriment Trump alone has brought to the entire planet due to the enormous insecurities and ignorance that have been fed and fostered by centuries-old American precepts of justified inequity.
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So the entire forum is an "echo-chamber" to you? You're not even attempting to have any sort of discussion, you're just complaining that you can't.
If I may ask, what policies of his do you find agreeable? The lack of engagement makes me wonder about the honesty of your finger-pointing.
"I've...beaten ISIS"
Wow.
Wow.
It's CNBC, it's great from their point of view.
I apologize, didn't mean to say you support him, but I would like to know what policies your referring to that you support.
The way it works is that we refrain from insulting each other -- you can easily call people out without insulting them. That's part of what we agree to in engaging on this forum. If there are concerns about a Trump apologist or a racism or sexism apologist, allow the moderation system to work, or notify a mod. Does that make sense?
Can't watch the video right now but It's not about partisan vs. non-partisan to me, it's Trump's overwhelming dishonesty. There's often been something he has said that I agree with, but he also has most likely taken the opposite position too. And virtually every action he takes has been either overtly destructive, some sort of fraud, or laced with poison pills. It just doesn't matter if he says something good, because he is lying or with undermine it at some point.
Fucking thank you! The time to give up hope on private Trump was back in the 80s.
The time to give up hope on Candidate Trump was the first day he mentioned Obama's birth certificate, years before the rapist mexicans comment.
The time to give up hope on Trump the President was within 2 months of his inauguration.
I know he's not going to resign. I know he's not going to become a better person. The only good thing Trump can do as this point is die.
The end.
I'm sure as fuck not going to watch him in video. He triggers me continuously.
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This right here. Any time that Trump doesn't sound like his usual narcissistic out of touch bigoted piece of shit for more than 5 minutes people seem to have to try and give him credit for not being how he is 99% of the time.
Somebody must have seen a different interview as I have read.
This sounds like "Broken Record - Greatest Hits"
I beat ISIS, we need the wall, economy is booming just because of me, would have lost under Dems (because it was totally going down under Obama). Regulations are what held the economy back. Trade deficit, bad deals everywhere, will negotiate better ones.
And that interviewer - OMG, just read the transcript, but was his head visible during the interview?
This sounds like "Broken Record - Greatest Hits"
I beat ISIS, we need the wall, economy is booming just because of me, would have lost under Dems (because it was totally going down under Obama). Regulations are what held the economy back. Trade deficit, bad deals everywhere, will negotiate better ones.
And that interviewer - OMG, just read the transcript, but was his head visible during the interview?
If an idea is good then it stands strongly in the midst of scrutiny.
Excellent post. The only thing I disagree with is that he will forever tarnish America. If we impeach him and throw him in jail (and no fucking pardon for the asshole! He does not deserve that traditional courtesy. He shat all over his office, let his office shit on him in return.) then we will redeem ourselves quickly. If not...well..it'll take a few decades but we'll be ok eventually. Probably before I die...Yay?
Dude, you fucked up. Saying "this is not the place" means you're accusing us of being unfair. That's not true. There are plenty of reasonable, polite and smart people who will argue with you in good faith and 0 name calling. Matter of fact, the dude who insulted you was warned already by mods.
What more proof do you need?
Ding ding ding. He just wants to be the most liked person in the room he's in at the time.
Trump knows how to read a crowd and tell them what they want to hear. It's not surprising that he chose to do the same here.
He's basically taken every position at this point so pretty much everyone will "agree" with him on something at some point. The question is, why on earth would you believe him? He's been president for over a year and has given us plenty to judge him on.
He's basically taken every position at this point so pretty much everyone will "agree" with him on something at some point. The question is, why on earth would you believe him? He's been president for over a year and has given us plenty to judge him on.
I think this interview is fine and I agree with most of what he is saying. I still disagree with needing to spend tons of money on a giant wall though.
Trump for LGBT picture but in video form and people gobble it up like they have the short term memory of a goldfish. It would be hilarious if it weren't sad.
Your old posts are still quoted by other users, do uhhh nice try I guess?
Did you bump this to show all your friends at the old place how mean everyone is?