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Mahonay

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Oct 25, 2017
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For someone that has no interest in bodybuilding you sure post a lot of bodybuilding material. I'm still trying to figure out what the WBF has in relation to this new XFL venture.
Both are hilariously bad ventures and staggering wastes of money by Vince Kennedy McMahon. And now he's doing it again. Only this time he's bringing back his shitty football league for all the racists upset by black players kneeling. Fuck him and I hope this fails spectacularly again.
 

Heath V

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Oct 27, 2017
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Both are hilariously bad ventures and staggering wastes of money by Vince Kennedy McMahon. And now he's doing it again. Only this time he's bringing back his shitty football league for all the racists upset by black players kneeling. Fuck him and I hope this fails spectacularly again.

You hope it fails I hope it succeeds, thanks for your opinion. I personally don't care what the man does with his money as it's not mine it doesn't affect me, but I do respect him and wish him the best. Will it turn out to be successful? Time will tell. I know one thing's for sure, he has a much better chance at success this time around.
 

Mahonay

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You hope it fails I hope it succeeds, thanks for your opinion. I personally don't care what the man does with his money as it's not mine it doesn't affect me, but I do respect him and wish him the best. Will it turn out to be successful? Time will tell. I know one thing's for sure, he has a much better chance at success this time around.
So you're cool with him using the racist backlash against protesting black NFL players as a means to launch his football league. You must be because you've completely ignored that aspect of this.
 

Heath V

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Oct 27, 2017
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I mean, that's one of the reasons people gawked at the WBF.

Especially when Vince tried to make it more like wrestling by adding gimmicks to the bodybuilders.

I actually think Vince had some good ideas when it came to the WBF. The IFBB even adopted some of them, shame how they treated the athletes when they came back to the IFBB though. At that point it was certain that Gary strydom was not placing how he deserved. They recently did the same thing with Lee Priest.

I miss ICO-PRO lol. It was so cool to see that Banner during RAW 25.
 

Fat4all

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sad because Vince is one of the most garbage, racist human beings in the entertainment industry

the WWE will flourish when he returns to ash
 

Heath V

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WWE is flourishing now, check the numbers. You sure do put a lot of faith in Hunter and Steph.
 

Pop-O-Matic

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Oct 25, 2017
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sad because Vince is one of the most garbage, racist human beings in the entertainment industry

the WWE will flourish when he returns to ash

Company's gonna get left in the hands of either his idiot daughter and doofus son-in-law, his son who's dumb enough to fall off a 30ft cage once every 18 months, or the production guy who thinks shaking and zooming the camera to the point of incomprehensibility is exciting and dynamic. There is NO hope of WWE flourishing.
 

Mahonay

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I haven't followed wrestling in ages but what are the racism accusations against Vince? Never heard.
It would take too long to list all the racist shit WWE/WWF has done over the decades. Here's at least a summary of things they've done on air that were racist.
http://grantland.com/features/excerpt-david-shoemaker-new-book-concise-history-racism-wrestling/

There was also this, just this past September.
https://deadspin.com/fans-chant-that-s-too-far-during-racist-wwe-promo-1818579727

Also this very topic we're discussing now. Vince is using the racist backlash against kneeling black NFL players as a platform to revive the XFL. He is using racist sentiment as a promotional tool. It's fucking rotten.
 

entremet

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Oct 26, 2017
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It would take too long to list all the racist shit WWE/WWF has done over the decades. Here's at least a summary of things they've done on air that were racist.
http://grantland.com/features/excerpt-david-shoemaker-new-book-concise-history-racism-wrestling/

Also this very topic we're discussing now. Vince is using the racist backlash against kneeling black NFL players as a platform to revive the XFL. He is using racist sentiment as a promotional tool. It's fucking rotten.
Oh I know about the WWE stuff. I was thinking something more dynamic, like employee discrimination as he is a businessman. I know of his sexual assault stuff.

But yeah, I'm aware of Vince targeting the lowest common denominator with his entertainment.
 

plagiarize

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Oct 25, 2017
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Knock it off with the insults in here. People aren't stupid or children because they do or don't like the IBC, Pro Wrestling or have a positive or negative opinion on the future or past of the XFL.
 

RBH

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Two new football leagues have formed this year, with the Alliance of American Football announcing that it will start play in 2019 and the XFL announcing that it will start in 2020. But as the AAF makes concrete plans that show it has a real backing, it raises questions about whether the XFL will be too far behind to catch up.

The AAF has already announced that several credible, well-known coaches have agreed to coach teams in its league, which will begin play in February:
Steve Spurrier will coach the Orlando team, Rick Neuheisel will coach the Phoenix team, Dennis Erickson will coach the Salt Lake City team, Mike Singletary will coach the Memphis team and Brad Childress will coach the Atlanta team (with Michael Vick as his offensive coordinator).

Meanwhile, the XFL is tweeting about taking suggestions from fans about where their franchises should be located. No XFL franchises, coaches or league executives, other than Vince McMahon, have been announced.

The AAF has also already begun the process of explaining what will differentiate its league from the NFL. That includes rules like eliminating kickoffs, and an open-door policy to Colin Kaepernick, who is currently suing the NFL and saying its owners have colluded to keep him out of the league. The XFL has said it will provide an exciting brand of football but offered no specifics.

Most importantly, the AAF will air its first game and its championship game on CBS, and many other AAF games will air on CBS Sports Network. The XFL has no TV deal.


The AAF's one-year head start is a massive advantage over the XFL. If the AAF succeeds in its first season in 2019, then fans who want to watch spring football will already have a league they actively follow heading into 2020. If the AAF fails in 2019, then spring football itself will look like a failure, and the XFL will struggle to convince fans that it will be any different.

Although the XFL still has much greater name recognition than the AAF, thanks to the XFL's one and only season in 2001, name recognition can get the XFL only so far. When it's time for actual XFL football to be played, the AAF will already be way ahead.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...oaches-and-announces-teams-xfl-is-far-behind/
 

rstzkpf

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Are there even enough football fans to support more than one pro league?
 

mreddie

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I believe AAF is done by Dick Ebersol's kid who also did the XFL doc which was likely the cause of the XFL getting revived but Ebersol's kid was likely doing this WAY in advance.
 

Violence Jack

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Oct 25, 2017
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Soon as that AAF was announced with full backing of some former NFL players, the XFL revival died right then and there.

Now Vince can just continue to focus on trying to find a way to not get Roman booed everywhere he goes.
 

Serene

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Oct 25, 2017
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It will never not be hilarious that Vince got scooped with this
 

Big-E

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Oct 25, 2017
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But Vince will be able to get Johnny Football after he fails out with Hamilton in the CFL. The star to build his league around.
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wait so the AAF is actually going to encourage kneeling?

Oh this is too rich, can't wait to watch the XFL burn.
 

Disco

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh wow lol. Vince should just cancel these plans immediately that AAF thing completely scooped it and sounds like it has an actual plan behind it to boot

XFL is like the TNA to their WWE
 

Cordy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I laugh anytime Vince's plans fail man, it's just been in me since the Attitude Era lol.
 

RBH

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Are there even enough football fans to support more than one pro league?
Quantity-wise, maybe. But the better question is if there's enough interest to support more than one pro league in the long-term.

Given what we've seen from the Arena League, NFL Europe, and the XFL in the past, the answer is likely no.
 

Hokahey

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Oct 28, 2017
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AAF sounds fairly legit. I'd really like it in St. Louis but I haven't even heard the slightest buzz about it.
 

Slayven

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Hold up wait a minute, the XFL still hasn't put anything on paper? So Vince just burned 9 figures for nothign?
 

Y2Kev

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh I can't watch the other league that has Michael Vick as a coordinator. You know, that's political. Because he's black, I mean.