WWE's Enzo Amore fired over sexual assault charges. Update: Charges dropped due to lack of evidence.

plagiarize · Jan 23, 2018

ElectricBlanketFire said:
Statement from Enzo's lawyer...tweeted by Enzo.

Maybe it's standard language, but claiming what he was accused of is 'sexual misconduct' sure sounds like it is downplaying the seriousness of the allegations. He's been accused if rape and denies it. I'd rather you say that. This looks shady whatever the truth is.

shanafan · Jan 23, 2018

The accuser spoke with TMZ.

https://youtu.be/QJlGBBAfSFo

FireSafetyBear · Jan 23, 2018

Cordy said:
Now this gets even messier what is going on here

Screenshots but not the actual message thread.

Cordy · Jan 23, 2018

Yep.

Only January too, wonder what other mess will happen in the industry.

Deleted member 8001 · Jan 23, 2018

MY PENIS IS THE SIZE OF HOW MANY INSTAGRAM FOLLOWERS I HAVE!

lupinko · Jan 24, 2018

night814 said:
Cops are involved, way more than just a video. I would agree with you if she hadn't contacted the police the same night.

Most definitely, Austin is in a healthy relationship from all accounts now. It doesn't make him not guilty of what he did to Debra but that was sometime ago and people learn from their mistakes.

IIRC it wasn't just Debra that Steve had a history with, I recall his ex prior to Debra had the same history, said ex gave him the Stone Cold moniker for him liking his tea that way or something.

PHOENIXZERO · Jan 24, 2018

lupinko said:
IIRC it wasn't just Debra that Steve had a history with, I recall his ex prior to Debra had the same history, said ex gave him the Stone Cold moniker for him liking his tea that way or something.

I don't recall ever hearing anything negative from his first or second ex-wife, the only other incident I can remember was from an ex-girlfriend after Debra and all indicators pointed towards her being a bit nuts.

Deleted member 835 · Jan 24, 2018

Gurrry said:
Just watched this video. Crazy shit.

Look im all for believing women, but taking one look at this girls twitter, you could tell she wasnt the most credible looking person. This dude apparently submitted his texts to the police, so I guess we will see what happens. Really shitty if she made it all up though... especially because there are people out there that have actually suffered from sexual assault, getting the courage to come out with the #metoo movement, and now people like this allegedly are taking advantage of it to get out of their own shitty situations.

Guy looks high as fuck and proves nothing, but I guess people only call that out when it is the accuser. Could he not be taking advantage of the situation as well?

Deleted member 835 · Jan 24, 2018

Beef Supreme said:
While it takes an awful amount of courage for real victims to come forward, you just knew there was a dark side to this movement as well. Being able to simply come forward and say "he/she did it" was not only going to bring out the real victims, it was also going to bring out those who are vindictive. What better way to take down a celebrity you don't like. I believe there will be and are victims on both sides.

False allegations are super small. The #metoo movement is fine

Sephzilla · Jan 24, 2018

FireSafetyBear said:
Screenshots but not the actual message thread.

Yeah, just screenshots (which could have been doctored)

sibarraz · Jan 24, 2018

Kokonoe said:
MY PENIS IS THE SIZE OF HOW MANY INSTAGRAM FOLLOWERS I HAVE!

I dont get the joke of the instagram followers. Someone defend enzo claiming that he would never rape anyone for his amount of instagram followers?

Sweeney Swift · Jan 24, 2018

Seductivpancakes said:
Well hope he saved some money cause he's out of a job.

He spent almost all his NXT money on front row tickets to Floyd/Conor so he could take selfies with celebs who it was painfully obvious couldn't even stand being with him for those few seconds

I point this out in advance just in case any of his ridiculous defenders here try to also bring up the possibility of him being good with money and saving it in any capacity

TarpitCarnivore · Jan 24, 2018

Sweeney Swift said:
He spent almost all his NXT money on front row tickets to Floyd/Conor so he could take selfies with celebs who it was painfully obvious couldn't even stand being with him for those few seconds

I point this out in advance just in case any of his ridiculous defenders here try to also bring up the possibility of him being good with money and saving it in any capacity

I said this either here or the main OT for Wrassle, but the guys main problem was he thought himself as being bigger than WWE. Putting him in 205 and hot shooting him to the belt didn't help this, but the fact of the matter is WWE did not need him at all. I have no doubt people in front office were putt off by his 'larger than wwe' attitude.

And before anyone says it, he in no way will make it in the indies. His name is tainted, before the allegations, and his schtick was already growing old on fans.

Pop-O-Matic · Jan 24, 2018

Seductivpancakes said:
Well hope he saved some money cause he's out of a job.

Nah, money-mark indie bookers will be extraordinarily kind to this dipshit.

janoGX · Jan 24, 2018

sibarraz said:
I dont get the joke of the instagram followers.

E-peen, when you see people bragging about their trophies/achievements in consoles...

TarpitCarnivore · Jan 24, 2018

Pop-O-Matic said:
Nah, money-mark indie bookers will be extraordinarily kind to this dipshit.

No way ROH, Evolve, RevPro or any of the larger name indies touch him. No one wants to deal with that prima donna headache

Pop-O-Matic · Jan 24, 2018

TarpitCarnivore said:
No way ROH, Evolve, RevPro or any of the larger name indies touch him. No one wants to deal with that prima donna headache

Those aren't the indies I'm talking about. I'm talking about the shitindies that pay out the nose for ANY ex-WWE guy and then slap them on a poorly photoshoped poster.

Immortan · Jan 24, 2018

Pop-O-Matic said:
Nah, money-mark indie bookers will be extraordinarily kind to this dipshit.

Enzo is the type of dude who will be in the ring with Joey Ryan in 2 months doing that dumb dick spot he does and he will get paid more then the indie show brings in.

TarpitCarnivore · Jan 24, 2018

Pop-O-Matic said:
Those aren't the indies I'm talking about. I'm talking about the shitindies that pay out the nose for ANY ex-WWE guy and then slap them on a poorly photoshoped poster.

Ah ok, those ones you see in pizza shops advertising King Kong Bundy and Hacksaw to sign autographs at the local middle school auditorium

HeavenlyE · Jan 24, 2018

Sephzilla said:
Yeah, just screenshots (which could have been doctored)

She basically confirms the texts are real in this tweet

so take from that what you will

Deleted member 835 · Jan 24, 2018

HeavenlyE said:
She basically confirms the texts are real in this tweet

so take from that what you will

Am calling it a mess. People with mental health and drug problems getting in a fucked up situation. Still doesn't mean she wasn't raped

TarpitCarnivore · Jan 24, 2018

HeavenlyE said:
She basically confirms the texts are real in this tweet

so take from that what you will

If she was in fact drugged, it's completely plausible to wake up & send those texts but then relive the situation later. Y'all are acting like there isn't studies on trauma and how things can be suppressed initially

RiggityRice · Jan 24, 2018

Hycran said:
I wish his lawyer was like

MY NAME, IS TIMOTHY ECKSTEIN
AND I AM, A CERTIFIED ATTORNEY AND A BONAFIDE STUD, LAW SCHOOL, TAUGHT, ME, THAT.

AND THIS RIGHT HERE? THIS IS BIG ARNDT AND HIS BILLABLES ARE 6 FIGURES TALL AND, I, WILL, BILL, THAT.

BADABOOM, ERIC DID NOTHING IN THAT ROOM, WHY YOU LYIN?

But yeah, this story is a mess, Vince must be apoplectic.

Fuck yeah! I read all of that in A weird impersonation of Enzo's voice too, made me Crack the fuck up. That was gold.

NinjaScooter · Jan 24, 2018

Man this whole thing is a mess, and the parties involved playing the whole thing out on social media like this all to appease a bunch of "followers" who don't really give a fuck about them is depressing.

Soapbox Killer · Jan 24, 2018

shanafan said:
The accuser spoke with TMZ.

https://youtu.be/QJlGBBAfSFo

This does not smell right. She sounds so contrived. I could be wrong but does that video seem, I don't know what the word is but this video ain't right. Hopefully this gets settled with proper justice.

TarpitCarnivore · Jan 24, 2018

Soapbox Killer Returns said:
This does not smell right. She sounds so contrived. I could be wrong but does that video seem, I don't know what the word is but this video ain't right. Hopefully this gets settled with proper justice.

You can call out the mess of the story without putting down either party.

Soapbox Killer · Jan 24, 2018

TarpitCarnivore said:
You can call out the mess of the story without putting down either party.

You are right. That was just the last thing I saw and was commenting on this new info. The entire thing is crazy and not just her story telling.

Hycran · Jan 24, 2018

RiggityRice said:
Fuck yeah! I read all of that in A weird impersonation of Enzo's voice too, made me Crack the fuck up. That was gold.

I couldn't come up with a substitution for stud. Oh well.

As for all these "receipts" the guy who has them looks about as reputable as the liars I see coming through the court house on a daily basis. It's funny how people are quick to impugn her credibility but don't exercise the same thought process with his.

That being said, even though trauma can manifest itself in different ways, it seems likely that these texts will exonerate Enzo. As soon as you see texts like these (assuming they are real) and then you get after the fact claims of sexual assault, they fundamentally undermine the credibility of the complainant. Now Enzo can play the "honest but mistaken belief in consent" defence and probably get off with a big slap on the wrist.

I'm sure the police have other evidence and witness statements so I don't preclude any outcome, but stuff like this highlights why so many people get away with sexual assaults.

TarpitCarnivore · Jan 24, 2018

Hycran said:
I couldn't come up with a substitution for stud. Oh well.

As for all these "receipts" the guy who has them looks about as reputable as the liars I see coming through the court house on a daily basis. It's funny how people are quick to impugn her credibility but don't exercise the same thought process with his.

That being said, even though trauma can manifest itself in different ways, it seems likely that these texts will exonerate Enzo. As soon as you see texts like these (assuming they are real) and then you get after the fact claims of sexual assault, they fundamentally undermine the credibility of the complainant. Now Enzo can play the "honest but mistaken belief in consent" defence and probably get off with a big slap on the wrist.

I'm sure the police have other evidence and witness statements so I don't preclude any outcome, but stuff like this highlights why so many people get away with sexual assaults.

There's also the age factor too. Some of these people seem like kids so I'm sure they're persona on cameras is way different once they're in a room with cops & lawyers

DiceHands · Jan 24, 2018

Beefy said:
Guy looks high as fuck and proves nothing, but I guess people only call that out when it is the accuser. Could he not be taking advantage of the situation as well?

Yeah after watching some more of his videos, Im not sure I trust his credibility either. However, those texts are pretty damning, and he says there are more.

With a situation as sticky as this one, its too complicated to start tossing blame around. It is a wait and see situation that the police are going to have to figure out themselves.

Either way, horrible situation. I hope for her sake that she is telling the truth, because lying about something like that is completely fucked.

Noroi_Kisaragi · Jan 24, 2018

The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

Deleted member 9317 · Jan 24, 2018

Cocaine is a helluva drug, and will make you do shit that you'll regret, and will make you take orders for the time being until the high has worn off.

You'll do things to not stop the drug flowing, including sexual favors that you may not agree to.

Deleted member 835 · Jan 24, 2018

Gurrry said:
Yeah after watching some more of his videos, Im not sure I trust his credibility either. However, those texts are pretty damning, and he says there are more.

With a situation as sticky as this one, its too complicated to start tossing blame around. It is a wait and see situation that the police are going to have to figure out themselves.

Either way, horrible situation. I hope for her sake that she is telling the truth, because lying about something like that is completely fucked.

Yeah it's a mess and all the people involved sadly seem mentally ill and off their meds and akso heavy drug users

Kirblar · Jan 24, 2018

Noroi_Kisaragi said:
The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

He lost his job not because of the allegations, but because he didn't tell WWE about them.

Alo0oy · Jan 24, 2018

I stopped watching wrestling a while ago, but I forgot how fucking terrible wrestling fans are, they're even worse than gamers and comic book fans. The comments on twitter are something.

Seductivpancakes · Jan 24, 2018

Noroi_Kisaragi said:
The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

Serious question, how much lives do you think are destroyed by false rape allegations compared to lives being destroyed by rape?

TarpitCarnivore · Jan 24, 2018

Noroi_Kisaragi said:
The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

Whose lives have been destroyed? Seriously

The guy was fired because he failed to disclose to his employer he was under investigation for RAPE

Dan · Jan 24, 2018

Noroi_Kisaragi said:
The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

If it makes you feel better, the guy would have lost his job ages ago if it wasn't for merch sales.

His conduct was shitty before this incident allegedly happened. And that includes the point TarpitCanivore made - not disclosing this to his employers.

Gonzalez · Jan 24, 2018

True story, or not Enzo fucked up big time by not talking to somebody in the company about the situation. They might have even helped him before this got out.

Deleted member 9317 · Jan 24, 2018

Btw, I've heard similar stories about Enzo before. He's quite cocky about his presence in WWE, and takes real advantage of the scenario, and brags about it too much to ladies.

At this point, I'll let the justice system decide.

ElectricBlanketFire · Jan 24, 2018

Truly the real victims of sexual assault are the alleged perps.

Sephzilla · Jan 24, 2018

Noroi_Kisaragi said:
The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

The allegations themselves aren't the real reason Enzo was released. He was fired because he hid the information from WWE

Ketkat · Jan 24, 2018

Noroi_Kisaragi said:
The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

How many liars has it enabled to destroy lives? And why aren't you more upset at the culture that enables rapists to get away with rape?

spindashing · Jan 24, 2018

TarpitCarnivore said:
Whose lives have been destroyed? Seriously

The guy was fired because he failed to disclose to his employer he was under investigation for RAPE

Yep. An investigation started since October of last year, too.

asmith906 · Jan 24, 2018

Seductivpancakes said:
Serious question, how much lives do you think are destroyed by false rape allegations compared to lives being destroyed by rape?

False Rape allegations hurt real victims. I'm not saying she's lying but people can do horrible things so we should wait for the truth to come out before we pass judgement.

Deleted member 835 · Jan 24, 2018

asmith906 said:
False Rape allegations hurt real victims. I'm not saying she's lying but people can do horrible things so we should wait for the truth to come out before we pass judgement.

Rape and abuse hurts people too and happens far more than false allegations

ElectricBlanketFire · Jan 24, 2018

asmith906 said:
False Rape allegations hurt real victims. I'm not saying she's lying but people can do horrible things so we should wait for the truth to come out before we pass judgement.

You literally said the alleged victim will have "hell to pay" if she's lying and that you're "so done" with a non-existent culture of enabling false reporting.

63% of sexual assaults go unreported because of takes like this.

You're passing judgement just like I'm passing judgement on you right now.

Deleted member 12447 · Jan 24, 2018

TarpitCarnivore said:
If she was in fact drugged, it's completely plausible to wake up & send those texts but then relive the situation later. Y'all are acting like there isn't studies on trauma and how things can be suppressed initially

Come on man. Now, I believe rape is a terrible thing and if Enzo did it lets throw 10 books at him, but damn this looks fishy. You gotta admit that at the least. Especially coupled with the other holes in her story.

I think the more fucked up part in this is I don't have faith in our justice system to handle this properly EITHER WAY.

FireSafetyBear · Jan 24, 2018

Noroi_Kisaragi said:
The guy lost his job.

If the girl was lying, she has hell to pay

I'm so done with this culture enabling liers to destroy lives.

What culture is this?

The same culture that doesn't do shit for sexual assault victims?

Carfo · Jan 24, 2018

HeavenlyE said:
She basically confirms the texts are real in this tweet

so take from that what you will

tweet was deleted, what did it say?

TarpitCarnivore said:
The guy was fired because he failed to disclose to his employer he was under investigation for RAPE

Yeah but he did go to the phoenix police about it, the WWE apparently didn't know he did this though

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