On the bright side, Rich Swann and his wife have mended their fences, and it's looking less likely that he'll be charged with any crime.
I mean, if he's not guilty, WWE...
I mean, if he's not guilty, WWE...
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WWE's Enzo Amore fired over sexual assault charges. Update: Charges dropped due to lack of evidence.
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If Enzo had told them, he'd never have been champion. He'd be sitting at home collecting a paycheck until the investigation was over, then released if charged and taken to trial.
Dude clearly wanted to coast and keep going and hope it all blew over. Even if he turned out to be 100% an innocent victim of circumstance (ROFL outta here), just telling Vince would go a long way to ensuring his future
Dude clearly wanted to coast and keep going and hope it all blew over. Even if he turned out to be 100% an innocent victim of circumstance (ROFL outta here), just telling Vince would go a long way to ensuring his future
There's this weird obsession with proof online. I mean, I understand it: false accusations of anything is no bueno, but to play armchair detective and try to read tweets to find proof of a rape is ridiculous.
Multiple witnesses saw him dragging his wife around. She dropped the charges but still.
When people are living a majority of their lives online, it doesn't take much effort to click a couple things to find out more.
Now they can bring back that stupid shark cage and stuff him in it again.
From what I've read WWE has a pretty standard morals clause in contracts that gives them plenty of wiggle room to fine/suspend or fire people.
There's also this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDaF7XQzUrw&feature=youtu.be
I just found out about this story and while reading through the reddit thread on wwe, i stumbled across this video. I don't know Enzo, I don't know the lady but based on Enzo's actions, it really looks sketchy. Usually, people who are innocent are adamant and quick to proclaim their innocence. He has not done that but then again, there's this video which I'm sure Enzo's defense attorney will no doubt attempt to use so yea.....
Idk guys, it's just a twitter accusation and she seems crazy based on this video
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Yeah but there's no facts and I mean look at this video where she looks crazy
*released*
Yeah but I mean this video
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EDIT: If you're taking this at face value, don't. I'm referring to people who still feel the need to bring up an unrelated video to discredit her "while waiting for the facts"
*suspended*
Yeah but there's no facts and I mean look at this video where she looks crazy
*released*
Yeah but I mean this video
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EDIT: If you're taking this at face value, don't. I'm referring to people who still feel the need to bring up an unrelated video to discredit her "while waiting for the facts"
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Big props to this woman for coming forward, I hope this asshole getting fired from what was likely his dream job is at least some consolation while the investigation keeps up.
What are you saying here?
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This video was kind of covered before (i haven't watched it - it's none of my fucking business - but i get the gist, she's an asshole) but I just wanna reiterate that it is entirely possible for both these things be to true:
1. This women is not a stable or respectable person.
2. Enzo raped her just like she said he did.
Also, if she is as mentally unwell as she claims to be, then that is not necessarily a discredit to her claims. Predators go after that kind of person specifically a lot of the time for various reasons - they might be more easily manipulated, they might not be believed later, and so on.
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to get at? I don't particularly watch the wwe( i see highlights once in a while on youtube) or attend any shows. The rest of us have no access to any public information and some of us prefer not to jump to conclusions. The justice system will sort it out. If you want to join the lynch mob prior to a verdict, go right ahead but I'll wait. Also, i doubt that he would be worth the trouble to keep?
He was likely released as a result of not divulging the allegations to WWE last year, not because of possible movement in the case.
FIne with me.
Only problem is this leaves a huge void of the top heel in 205 Live, but I'm okay with that. Honestly, it's time to just tear the entire show down.
Only problem is this leaves a huge void of the top heel in 205 Live, but I'm okay with that. Honestly, it's time to just tear the entire show down.
I'm not sure why you felt the need to quote me? Read my post again, do you see me defend the accused? I just said, here's what I've read and noticed and left it at that. I'm not exactly sure why people are going on random tangents imagining things that I never wrote?
Well the silver lining to both of those incidents is that at least the wwe is cutting ties with people who abuse women and not putting them on their shows
Quoting this because everyone willfully ignored it.
Sorry I didn't necessarily mean to attack you, that video just comes up a lot and while 'this might look bad in court' is probably true, most people are using it to basically say well she's probably lying because she's a psycho etc. You seem to think it's got some weight so I just said what I think about it.
It may have come off as passively defending by way of bringing up extraneous videos that have nothing to do with if she was raped or not, that may be why they quoted you.
What do you think you're perpetuating with this
It's all discrediting the accuser with unrelated shit. She's unstable, has mental health issues, and has lied before?
When y'all find a video where she says "just so everyone knows I'm about to lie and get Enzo fired" let us know
(I know you've already said you aren't defending Enzo, I got that. But people should stop using that video as evidence)
If I'm misreading this and you're calling Enzo sketchy then I apologize, but after seeing people bringing it up everywhere (and in this thread) I just assume it's more bullshit
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Austin's past is known and honestly isn't relevant to this topic
Have you heard of the phrase "innocent until proven guilty"? That's how the court system works and that's how I treat all accusations. A majority of the posts in this thread is literally taking sides without any information. We have an accuser and the accused and I'm here trying to stay in the middle lane. You know, like let's wait for the justice system to do it's job. In my post, i referenced characteristics and traits of an innocent person and mentioned that the accused doesn't display any of those traits. I posted a link I stumbled across while following up on the story on reddit that the accuser voluntarily put on the web and said, exhibit b should also be examined and left it at that. Lynch mob is the literal definition of many of the posts in this thread and we all know how useless that approach is to finding out the truth.
This.
People are exposing themselves like Enzo. Dude had this locked away from the company since October. I mean shit, you gotta think about that.
Either way he's released. His rap career ain't gonna help out one bit either. Dude is trash.
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You realize you're basically equating people who believe the victim of rape with being a lynch mob, right?
I'm sorry your fave is so problematic. But this is a really bad take on the situation, my man.
User banned (3 days) for ignoring a modpost, going after a potential victim of sexual harrassment, and accusing people of beliving said victim of being a lynch mob
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I see nobody in here threatening physical harm onto Enzo Amore.
Also, playing middleman and trying to downplay allegations from a victim is a bad take that causes other victims to stay silent.
This isn't a court. This isn't even wrestler's court.
You're not trying to stay in the middle lane. Your take on this situation is bad.
Show me where it specifies physical? Verbal assault is a thing and there's lots of that on here. It's amazing how I'm under fire for refraining from making a decision until the justice system has made theirs. I'm sure that many on here would love to be condemned without due process.
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Court of public opinion =/= court of law. Also you're trying to downplay the victim's allegations by bringing up unrelated bits of information regarding the victim that have no impact on whether or not a crime was committed. Again, your take on this is bad and despite you saying you want to sit on the fence you're actually leaning more towards defending the man accused of rape.
You're pushing this really hard for someone you're supposedly clueless about.
So Enzo not saying he was under investigation caused WWE to fire him. Something Enzo always does with every other problem he has.
Also Enzo was a problematic figure for WWE causing controversy between the locker room and outside there.
If Enzo is 100% innocent, then I hope he gets re-hired when he cleans his act. If not, justice will take care of him.
I feel like you're reading what I write but failing to process it. I don't know where you and your lot are imagining my defense of the accused in this situation. I'm just waiting for it to play out so that I can know if he is guilty or not.
I'm sorry but a history of false accusations is 100% relevant to a case that is based on an accusation. The content of the video in itself is irrelevant but the title of the video is not. If the detectives can't piece together enough evidence to corroborate the victims story, that video will become a focal point of the trial. You may not think it's relevant but from a conviction perspective, it's entirely relevant.
I was responding about Neville.... My bad.
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Cops are involved, way more than just a video. I would agree with you if she hadn't contacted the police the same night.
Most definitely, Austin is in a healthy relationship from all accounts now. It doesn't make him not guilty of what he did to Debra but that was sometime ago and people learn from their mistakes.
It's so known that people are willing to forget it because people liked him when they were teenagers. It's very odd to see many of the same people condemn Enzo (rightly) whilst giving their money which they know is going to widely known domestic abusers (wrongly) without a second thought, just last night.
I mean, does Austin get a pass because he's popular and cool and Enzo isn't? When does the hypocrisy stop. They can both go fuck themselves, separating the character from the person doesn't apply when you're giving your money towards the domestic abuser, and cheering him beyond belief because he pretends to beat up another dickhead.
But then, Enzo Amore is yet another scumbag in a company which has produced a LOT of scumbags over the years, a suspicious amount, mind. It makes me wonder if things have actually changed in the PG era, or if it's still the same old bullshit. WWE is a company ran by pieces of shit, for pieces of shit, and I'm fed up with people calling past incidents irrelevant when they all are very much relevant, even today. Surely, there must be a hidden culture that leads to this sort of shit?
This company gives no fucks about anything, so long as it doesn't negatively affect their precious image. After all, it's one middleman away from directly being a big Trump donor, so what do y'all expect? If anyone hates this sort of shit (again, rightly so), stop supporting this company with your money, because there's just too many damn sexual abusers, domestic abusers, racists, homophobes, and even murderers that it's given us.
My post was towards people who keep using the video to discredit her. If that wasn't clear.
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Who in this thread is giving Austin a pass for what he did?
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