Your controversial gaming opinions?

Metal Gear has always had a troubled and often terrible story. But I love it all the same.

Snatcher is a better story then Blade Runner however, though it's clearly inspired by it to the point of being a rip-off and wouldn't exist without it.

Mario is great when it has story and world-building, but only in quirky small doses (I hate that they're all actors on a stage in canon).

Zelda shouldn't have a timeline.

I don't think Megaman really needs to come back, he's had more sequels the most series and lived a good life. Unless they come up with a new sub-series, of some sort, I don't see the need.

Arkham combat in any sort of game ruins it for me. It's not a fight, it's not entertaining. It's a fun little game simon says at best, and just feels like tedious QETs at worst. I'm not actually fighting in those instances.

I think open world games are super boring and I strongly dislike Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine. The former being more controversial then the latter.

Though I am enjoying Osyssey due to the gameflow being more structured. It's kind of an in-between of galaxy and 64.

I know i will get hate.

I think zelda is a boring game.

This includes BOTW which i purchased.

My opinion.

Jubbe said:

For the record, it's not that I don't get it, it is that I disagree.

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And that's fair enough.
This is the "unpopular opinions" thread, after all.

San Andreas is the best GTA game of that era. For 10 or so years everybody I know IRL who played it agreed it's the best and their favourite, but ever since I've started interacting with online communities, listening to podcasts etc. I've found out there is this weird sort of hatred for it, which blows my mind. San Andreas takes everything about 3 and Vice City and damn near perfects it. The only way I could see someone thinking it's worse than the previous two is that they were fatigued from having three GTA games come out from 2001-2004.

Earthbound and Undertale are not that subversive in any interesting videogame ways. That the later comes off as awfully pandering.

I NEED to be an attractive anime boy/girl saving the world when playing an RPG. It makes me feel young. There's no point saving the world if you're not young enough to enjoy it

Games like Witcher 3 and Skyrim don't appeal to me because the main character makes me feel old and gritty

I don't play half as many games as I should for someone who enjoys gaming as much as I do.

Also Sports games aren't fun

Metal Gear Solid V is probably the best game ever made.

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DmC Reboot is amazing

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Agree 100%

A critical review of a game is something you read after you've already played the game. Critics are there to provide you with an interesting insight into the game, not to tell you what to buy.

I really enjoyed Too Human. Coming from a massive Phantasy Star Online/Universe fan an online co-op arpg with loot drops was right up my alley. Norse mythology with a technological twist is a cool idea too.

Was it a technical masterpiece? Absolutely not. Not by a long shot. But I had a complete blast for a while. Trading with the community and creating the perfect build with gear and epic runes was fun too. Right path human bioengineer ftw!

To me the game really shone when you're zipping back and forth air juggling everything in combination staying in the zone. It gave me a great feeling of gamers high.

While I'm at it, you know what? Andromeda was fun too. Boom there it is.

I think most people here don't realize how niche and minority the previous place and this current places collective opinions are on certain games, so I'll keep it to "controversial for this forum"

The Godsmack music in Warrior Within was badass.

Super Mario Sunshine was a fantastic game that took a risk and paid off tremendously.

BioShock Infinite is one of the best games ever made

ThEoRy... said:

I really enjoyed Too Human. Coming from a massive Phantasy Star Online/Universe fan an online co-op arpg with loot drops was right up my alley. Norse mythology with a technological twist is a cool idea too.

Was it a technical masterpiece? Absolutely not. Not by a long shot. But I had a complete blast for a while. Trading with the community and creating the perfect build with gear and epic runes was fun too. Right path human bioengineer ftw!

To me the game really shone when you're zipping back and forth air juggling everything in combination staying in the zone. It gave me a great feeling of gamers high.

While I'm at it, you know what? Andromeda was fun too. Boom there it is.

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Too Human is the best trilogy ever made.

Kenji said:

A critical review of a game is something you read after you've already played the game. Critics are there to provide you with an interesting insight into the game, not to tell you what to buy.

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Partially agreed - I'll scan reviews to get an overall sense of if the game is as good as it looks to me. Then after playing I'll read the reviews more in depth.

Along those lines, 'objective' reviews are pointless and just a ridiculous concept. I only want reviews that are emotional and wear their biases on their sleeve. Oh and I also love reviews in which the reviewer is a non-expert of the genre or even dislikes the genre.

Terranigma is a top-5 SNES game and would be widely recognised as such had it come out in North America. Its music is also far superior to that of FFVI.

Sports and racing simulating games aren't real games.

People who call themselves 'hardcore gamers' usually aren't hardcore gamers

Splatoon 2 is not a fun game

Voice acting and story would make Mario so much better

Buying more games before you finish another to create a backlog is a waste of money and time

Sauce Marlow said:

San Andreas is the best GTA game of that era. For 10 or so years everybody I know IRL who played it agreed it's the best and their favourite, but ever since I've started interacting with online communities, listening to podcasts etc. I've found out there is this weird sort of hatred for it, which blows my mind. San Andreas takes everything about 3 and Vice City and damn near perfects it. The only way I could see someone thinking it's worse than the previous two is that they were fatigued from having three GTA games come out from 2001-2004.

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I think it's just some new internet fad to hate on San Andreas because others are doing it.

Super Mario Sunshine is better than Galaxy.

Sauce Marlow said:

San Andreas is the best GTA game of that era. For 10 or so years everybody I know IRL who played it agreed it's the best and their favourite, but ever since I've started interacting with online communities, listening to podcasts etc. I've found out there is this weird sort of hatred for it, which blows my mind. San Andreas takes everything about 3 and Vice City and damn near perfects it. The only way I could see someone thinking it's worse than the previous two is that they were fatigued from having three GTA games come out from 2001-2004.

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I think for me it was fatigue. It was a great game but world size off the back of two other GTA games, it was just so much. I was also very taken with the 80s setiing of Vice City.

That the Dark Souls games are clunky, boring and not fun. Same with Bloodborne.

The first Uncharted game is better than the third, and up there with the second.

I felt RDR gameplay to be quite boring and hollow. Almost every mission starts with you riding with some character for like 10 minutes, chatting, followed by a basic shooting section, rinse-n-repeat. Loved the story and characters though, but found riding for 10 minutes from one town to other in between missions very very boring(fast travel wasn't always available). And the missions towards the end were just a drag, herd 20-30 cows, kill x crows, kill y deers with your son....

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I think for me it was fatigue. It was a great game but world size off the back of two other GTA games, it was just so much. I was also very taken with the 80s setiing of Vice City.

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That, plus the plane missions were almost completely unplayable on PC with mouse and KB

Open World design is one of the worst trends in gaming.

99% of games today could still benefit from using pre-rendered CGI cinematics.

The Shadow Hearts games are some of the best in gaming, ever.

Vagrant Story is a boring chore.

Trails in the Sky: FC is the most boring, vanilla game in the history of forever.

Infinite Undiscovery is a good game.

Chrono Cross is better than Chrono Trigger.

Final Fantasy Tactics has bad gameplay.

Kingdom Hearts is better than Kingdom Hearts II.

The Onimusha series is better than the Devil May Cry series.

The soundtracks and art style (minus Persona games) in Shin Megami Tensei games suck.

All Star Ocean games have horrid gameplay.

Tales of the Abyss is far better than Symphonia.

Tales of Zestiria is a decent game.

Final Fantasy XIII is a great game.

Sonic Unleashed is a great game outside of the framerate and the mandatory medal collecting.

Twilight Princess is the worst Zelda game.

The Wild Arms series is very mediocre. 2 flat-out sucks.

Halo: CE is the worst Halo game.

All 3 Xenosaga games are great.

I think that does it for now lol

Uncharted 4 is the worst installment in the series. It looks fantastic, but it is boring as hell. Even UC1 is way more fun than UC4.

With The Lost Legacy Naughty Dog showed that they know how to make a great Uncharted: A fast paced mixture of both action and non-action gameplay.

- Kinect 2 is better than Amazon Echo / Google Home / ApplePod, but Microsoft was too early in time. I still hope, they do something with its technology.
- The right Nintendo Switch Joy-Con is terrible because of the analog stick.

Love this topic.

I think gaming shouldn't be taken seriously until Heavenly Sword and Vanquish get sequels. Until then, everything is just filler.

Dunban said:

Terranigma is a top-5 SNES game and would be widely recognised as such had it come out in North America. Its music is also far superior to that of FFVI.

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My avatar probably gives this away, but Terranigma is the best SNES game.

There goes a few new ones

- Breath of the Wild weapon durability if fine. As a system it's annoying but the game is a compendium of systems that actually works together. Without weapons breaking left and right you wouldn't be forced to search for more weapons, wich means you wouldn't be in need to explore or beat enemies wich also means you would have it harder to hunt for resources, wich also means completing some quests and improving your armor would be downright impossible.

- Super Mario 3D World IS a real 3D Mario, and a good one at that

- Anime designs and tropes are fine, but only when they're not justified. They make the game feel gamey and comfy. When developers try to justify them they become ridiculous

- Eroticism and violence acceptance on gaming is unbalanced

- On that note, Senran Kagura is a great series partly because it knows exactly what it is and doesn't try to hide or explain it

- Hollywood style soundtracks used on the AAA ecosystem are a mistake, and no suited for gaming. There's a reason why most of the more memorable sountracks from the big companies are from more than 10 years ago

- The monicker "Indie" needs to die. Even if developers wear it proudly, it creates a schism in the media wich devolves into discrimination (I don't play indie games yadda yadda) and general stupidity. More than a few indie games come from studios that developed games under the big names of the industry. In the end, games are games and developers are developers.

- Dragon Ball has too many games

- Saint Seiya has not nearly enough games, to the point where developers have still not found a genre perfectly suited for the franchise

- Wind Waker is one of the worst Zeldas ever made. It has charm, but that's it, and it's also the poster child of a Nintendo that sacrificed polishing for release dates and was desesperately trying to make itself relevant again

Amiibola said:

- Breath of the Wild weapon durability if fine. ... Without weapons breaking left and right you wouldn't be forced to search for more weapons, wich means you wouldn't be in need to explore or beat enemies...

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I have the exact opposite view on this. Because of weapon durability (and the combat being bad) I literally ran past every enemy in the open world and never engaged in the combat unless it was 100% necessary, because I didn't want to Waste My Good Weapons. This led to me having the issues you discussed with resources.

dpunk3 said:

I couldn't play AK at all (PC), so I think it was pretty bad. Infinite is a great game.

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Did you play it when it initially came out? I know it was catastrophic at that time.
I played it this year and I didn't experience any technical issues after all the patches they released

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I think people wanted a return to horror elements.

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It's as if they were very glad the horror element is back they didn't bother to measure its correlation with the core Resident Evil vibe

Sony exclusives (for the most part) do not interest me at all this gen. I loved the Jak and Daxter games. The Ratchet games. Those were great exclusives. I loved the ps3 Uncharted games (basically I really loved ps1/2/3 era Sony exclusives)... But for some reason almost all PS4 Sony exclusives have held zero interest for me. And to top it off, the 2 Uncharted games on PS4 are such a huge let down. They're so boring. Where is the excitement from the PS3 series of Uncharted games? Maybe they need Hennig back???

I think basically due to the way Halo 5 controls, I prefer it over the previous Halo games (of which I was never a huge fan of anyway).

I think Sonic Mania is hugely overrated, much like the previous Sonic games it's trying to emulate (Mario always has been and will always be better than Sonic)!

Red Dead Redemption- why the hype for the sequel? It wasn't that good to begin with and can't come close to the far superior GTA series.

Not too sure if this is controversial or not, but I've enjoyed my time with the Switch FAR more than I have with both my PS4 and Xbone this gen. Where are the great exclusives Sony/Microsoft? What a letdown this gen has been for me. Thank goodness for Nintendo and the Switch.

Again might not be too controversial but I really miss the old days of gaming- when you had a game that needed no patches. No dlc. Just put the cartridge in and play till your fingers bled. The NES/SNES/Mega Drive/N64 etc... those were my fav years of gaming.

Uncharted 1 is the best Uncharted game. Maybe cause it was my first as I got it at launch but I adore the original Uncharted.

And last but not least- Mega Man 3 shits ALL over the overrated Mega Man 2! There- I said it finally and got it off my chest! 3 has better music. Better level design. Is harder. Longer. And ultimately better for it. I still love 2 but 3 is so much better.

Anyway, I think I've pissed enough of you off! I'm done for now!

A controversial gaming opinion I hold is that the Uncharted games (and in fact all linear games I've played) are not great value for money. Sure, I marvelled at how amazingly beautiful Uncharted 4 was when I played through it and gasped at the attention to detail but having played through it all once and mucked about going back to a couple of the chapters afterwards I really had no desire to play through the whole thing again. It was taking up valuable hard drive space so I deleted it. I paid £50 for that game. It was the same story for the other Uncharted's too. Played them through, loved them, thought they were amazing but then deleted them. I've never had any desire to replay them.

Thats why I'm wary of paying top dollar for any linear game. I rarely buy them at launch, I always wait until they're on sale somewhere.

Jubbe said:

I have the exact opposite view on this. Because of weapon durability (and the combat being bad) I literally ran past every enemy in the open world and never engaged in the combat unless it was 100% necessary, because I didn't want to Waste My Good Weapons. This led to me having the issues you discussed with resources.

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And that's exactly why you had those issues. Safe for every weapon is disposable, once the player understand this, the game opens. Also, as i see it, the combat is simple, but not bad.

In fact, weapon durability is one of the conventions defied with Breath of the Wild. In every Zelda, you get a weapon and it's yours forever, here the weapons are a mean for survival and you need them to beat the game, wich means that having a completely unbreakable weapon is akin to cheat.

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every weapon is disposable, once the player understand this, the game opens. Also, as i see it, the combat is simple, but not bad.

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I think you missed my point. Your logic was that "breaking weapons makes you have to fight enemies to get more weapons" but fighting is literally the thing that breaks your weapons so how is this an incentive to fight? If I already have a full arsenal of good weapons there is no incentive for me to fight any enemies apart from farming resources which is a boring mechanic in just about any game.

I guess what I'm saying is that my controversial opinion is that Breath of the Wild is a bad game.

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I think you missed my point. Your logic was that "breaking weapons makes you have to fight enemies to get more weapons" but fighting is literally the thing that breaks your weapons so how is this an incentive to fight? If I already have a full arsenal of good weapons there is no incentive for me to fight any enemies apart from farming resources which is a boring mechanic in just about any game.

I guess what I'm saying is that my controversial opinion is that Breath of the Wild is a bad game.

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But you don't engage in combat with every single enemy, only with enemies that have better weapons than yours, or enemies that drop the resources you need. Also, even if you lose all your weapons, you have the Sheikah slate's runes. Your mindset reminds me to those who never uses healing or restoring items on RPGs.

If you think it's a bad game, that's fine, but i think you simply misunderstood it.

Amiga 500 > SNES.

Rondo of Blood is the best Castlevania game.

KillLaCam said:

Im offended. I beat a few bosses in [FFXIII] on auto pilot.

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I mean, the same is true of some bosses in most series, even ones like MGS that focus heavily on boss design.

Amiibola said:

But you don't engage in combat with every single enemy, only with enemies that have better weapons than yours, or enemies that drop the resources you need. Also, even if you lose all your weapons, you have the Sheikah slate's runes. Your mindset reminds me to those who never uses healing or restoring items on RPGs.

If you think it's a bad game, that's fine, but i think you simply misunderstood it.

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Keep in mind that the other reason I avoided combat was that I thought the combat was bad. Any time I had to engage in combat it felt like a chore.

The dungeons were boring and the boss battles were atrocious, the shrines were all very simple puzzles that were never particularly fun to solve and gave rewards that barely made them worthwhile other than completionism, the world just felt empty for the most part since I was avoiding combat (because its bad and unrewarding) and I have no interest in the collectathon korok seeds (which were pointless to me since, because I was actively avoiding combat, I never had any reason to increase my inventory space since my weapons never broke).

The one boss battle I was having trouble with I ended up just fast travelling away and getting a bunch of healing items and just cheesed my way through it by healing constantly.

It's a bad game, don't say I misunderstood it.

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Keep in mind that the other reason I avoided combat was that I thought the combat was bad (...) It's a bad game, don't say I misunderstood it.

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You think it's a bad game. I think it's good. Again, that's fine :)

Not like i'm trying to make you think otherwise or anything.

Oh boy, this will come back to haunt me, I just know it.

- FFVIII and X are absolutely terrible games, while XIII is actually really good.

- DmC is the best thing that has happened to the Devil May Cry series.

- Arc Rise Fantasia is a great a terrible an amazing game.

- Sky 3rd is the weakest game in the Kiseki series (but I still love the series)

- Tales of Symphonia is an average game.

- Tokyo Mirage Sessions is the best game that has ever happened to the Wii U.

- F-Zero is not a good series.

- MacReady13 beat me to it, but yeah Mega Man 3. Best of the series.

- Remember Axl, from the later Mega Man X games? I love that character, I'm glad they introduced him.

- I did not like Ico, it just isn't fun.

- Important/necessary plot and lore points are not allowed to be optional and/or missable in a game. If the player needs to know something for the game or a sequel, they must be told as part of the natural narrative

- Alterations to games from localization to "meet societal standards of the west" is not acceptable

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Oh boy, this will come back to haunt me, I just know it.

- FFVIII and X are absolutely terrible games, while XIII is actually really good.

- DmC is the best thing that has happened to the Devil May Cry series.

- Arc Rise Fantasia is a great a terrible an amazing game.

- Sky 3rd is the weakest game in the Kiseki series (but I still love the series)

- Tales of Symphonia is an average game.

- Tokyo Mirage Sessions is the best game that has ever happened to the Wii U.

- F-Zero is not a good series.

- MacReady13 beat me to it, but yeah Mega Man 3. Best of the series.

- Remember Axl, from the later Mega Man X games? I love that character, I'm glad they introduced him.

- I did not like Ico, it just isn't fun.

- Important/necessary plot and lore points are not allowed to be optional and/or missable in a game. If the player needs to know something for the game or a sequel, they must be told as part of the natural narrative

- Alterations to games from localization to "meet societal standards of the west" is not acceptable

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Totally agree on the DmC, Tales of & MegaMan 3 points my good sir!

Final Fantasy XV is a very medicore game and a bad Final Fantasy.

-uninteresing empty open world
-bad side quests
-horrible story presentation
-the combat doesn't require any thinking & a bad magic system
-the music is my least favorite in any FF game
-the game took very long to release and alot of empty promises.
-the astral battles were unbelievably bad
-altisia is the worst city i ever explored in a game
-there is only 3 cities to explore in the game and alot of same looking gas stations.

Here is one I tend to get a fair bit of grief on.

Okami is better than the majority of Zelda games

Final Fantasy XV is a very medicore game and a bad Final Fantasy.

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Not that controversial of a statement imo

Krypton115 said:

Not that controversial of a statement imo

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it's 81% on metacritic and the users reviews 76%

very good numbers for this game.

Xeontech said:

Love this topic.

I think gaming shouldn't be taken seriously until Heavenly Sword and Vanquish get sequels. Until then, everything is just filler.

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Ahh...Vanquish, what a game that was!!

Aigato said:

Here is one I tend to get a fair bit of grief on.

Okami is better than the majority of Zelda games

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I can get behind that.

GAAS isn't evil as most people claim it to be

People who say Destiny is unfinished mostly never played an MMO.

Aigato said:

Here is one I tend to get a fair bit of grief on.

Okami is better than the majority of Zelda games

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Agreed.

GAAS is a good future for multiplayer games. We've already seen some fantastic implementations like League and Dota 2. A lot of publishers get it wrong though.