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Commodore Amiga Appreciation Thread
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Ecs. Matt, the author of tanglewood, only has a 500+, so thats the ultimate target hardware. Im developing on a 1200, but wont use any of the aga stuff. That means, unfortunately, we will probably be using dual playfield mode, i.e. 8 colors per playfield. I have a vector quantization tool ive written to handle palette conversions to try and mask any problems.
Be super carefull about the timing that changes due to the 68000 vs 68020EC
Even if you use a 68k compiler it can create serious issues that won't be easy to solve without an Amiga 500 to test them out
God I loved my Amiga. I had a C64 first then I went to a friends house, his older brother had a job and had bought an Amiga. The graphics blew my mind, the screen shots for DPaint made my jaw drop lol. So at 14 years old I got a part time job and worked 20 hours a week until I could afford an A500. It was worth every hour and every penny.
To clarify, i was told just after i'd finished that release was unlikey to the point i simply forgot about it and have since always assumed it never saw light of day. In addition the music was converted from the arcade version and i could only use 2 of the 4 available channels. I had a cassette sent of the arcade music, same as Mortal Kombat 2. Fifa was a cassette of Jeff Dyke's megadrive music.
How does it feel suddenly having another released title under your belt? :p
Imagine all the unclaimed royalties from the 76 copies sold on Amiga!
You mean you're not casually slipping into random conversations with friends that your Amiga port of Primal Rage actually got released??
This sounds somewhat funny to me.
As a person who started playing videogames at home on, well, home computers, I was actually fine at just using up to jump.
To the point that many, many years ago I cannibalized a pad to build a small psx-2-amiga adapter so that I could play Rainbow Islands with my good old joystick: for the life of me I never ever could be able to jump AND drop the rainbow simultaneously with any other control scheme, lol.
Without a doubt my most loved platform to this day, nothing else comes particularly close either. Had an A500 from maybe about 89 to 93 after which we upgraded to A1200.
Now for the most part action games generally were better on the 16bit consoles with the exception of some standout titles such as Cannon Fodder, Sensi, Stardust etc..
It had some masterpieces like Stunt Car Racer and the Digital Illusions pinball games, some excellent flight sims, RPGS and Point & Click adventures. Having owned Amiga and Megadrive and later on SNES at the same time I just found Amiga's library more interesting and varied overall.
Absolutely a great creative machine as well, I remember spending 100's of hours of things like Dpaint, Protracker and Amos/Blitbasic etc trying to create some decent graphis and music... Dpaint was a favourite in particular. I dont do any of that on my current PC tbh.. seems like the creative tools on Amiga were just really easy to get into AND powerful at the same time.
Speaking of Fairlight/Virtual Dreams demos I think Fullmoon was super impressive for 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVyw_qHIvBk
Gotta love the music by Heatbeat too. :)
Now for the most part action games generally were better on the 16bit consoles with the exception of some standout titles such as Cannon Fodder, Sensi, Stardust etc..
It had some masterpieces like Stunt Car Racer and the Digital Illusions pinball games, some excellent flight sims, RPGS and Point & Click adventures. Having owned Amiga and Megadrive and later on SNES at the same time I just found Amiga's library more interesting and varied overall.
Absolutely a great creative machine as well, I remember spending 100's of hours of things like Dpaint, Protracker and Amos/Blitbasic etc trying to create some decent graphis and music... Dpaint was a favourite in particular. I dont do any of that on my current PC tbh.. seems like the creative tools on Amiga were just really easy to get into AND powerful at the same time.
Speaking of Fairlight/Virtual Dreams demos I think Fullmoon was super impressive for 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVyw_qHIvBk
Gotta love the music by Heatbeat too. :)
Got a modest collection of Amiga's myself: one 600, one 1200, one 4000 and four 500's (different configurations/modifications), one still boxed. And of course a lot of games. Haven't used one in quite a bit but will turn one on later this week thanks to this thread. Can't wait to play the awesome Moonstone and replay the great Killing Game Show demo (to all the Megadrive/Genesis fanatics: yeah, that's Fatal Rewind) over and over again:
Also look forward to make music with Octamed and Pro Tracker again :)
And play Shadow of the Beast III. Hope to finish that awesome but freaking hard game one day :)
You are an instant hero of mine lol :)
Also look forward to make music with Octamed and Pro Tracker again :)
And play Shadow of the Beast III. Hope to finish that awesome but freaking hard game one day :)
You are an instant hero of mine lol :)
That game is Journey.
http://www.gamebase64.com/oldsite/gameofweek/52/gotw_journey.htm
I was searching for a separate old game myself, which led me to here and saw your comment - which gave me flashbacks to a game I had not seen or thought of in over 25 years!!
That game is Journey.
http://www.gamebase64.com/oldsite/gameofweek/52/gotw_journey.htm
I was searching for a separate old game myself, which led me to here and saw your comment - which gave me flashbacks to a game I had not seen or thought of in over 25 years!!
Thanks a lot for digging through!
unfortunately I dont think this was it. Image was more detailed and it was a pretty elf with pointy ears and blue hair inside a pond, staring at you from upfront. Hair barely covered her bust. Very sexualised image overall, something that impressed me, coming from an NES background.
Such great memories looking through this. My Amiga was probably my favourite gaming platform I've ever had. So many fantastic games.
A few others that I don't think I've seen in this thread:
Soccer Kid
Leander
A few others that I don't think I've seen in this thread:
Soccer Kid
Leander
Andrew Braybrook wrote another insightful blog post, this time about Fire and Ice:
https://uridiumauthor.blogspot.com/2018/07/fire-and-ice.html
The first bit, but the whole thing is a good read:
https://uridiumauthor.blogspot.com/2018/07/fire-and-ice.html
The first bit, but the whole thing is a good read:
My bro was all over Amiga in the late 80's/early 90's. First a 500, then a 1200.
I personally rather played on NES and MD. The Amiga did get some of those games, but SF2 on my Amiga damaged my soul. It was THE game for us in the arcades, and we were delighted it would come to Amiga. Firstly there was the one button controls, but secondly was the hilarious bad quality of the port. Its not even a port, Capcom wouldn't hand out source codes. I believe the developer just tried to copy what they played on a cabinet. MK fared better but still tedious to play for obvious reasons. Even as a kid I was annoyed by the lack of parralax scrolling, I didn't know the name yet but I noticed the completely static backgrounds.
Better were those Amiga exclusives, such as Alien Breed, Supercars, Lotus, Turrican et al. Those games were fine. Everyone who was around wanted to play Moonstone for some reason, wasn't it pretty bad actually? I never liked it.
There was also this game made in Holland, Disposable Hero, it was pretty good!
I personally rather played on NES and MD. The Amiga did get some of those games, but SF2 on my Amiga damaged my soul. It was THE game for us in the arcades, and we were delighted it would come to Amiga. Firstly there was the one button controls, but secondly was the hilarious bad quality of the port. Its not even a port, Capcom wouldn't hand out source codes. I believe the developer just tried to copy what they played on a cabinet. MK fared better but still tedious to play for obvious reasons. Even as a kid I was annoyed by the lack of parralax scrolling, I didn't know the name yet but I noticed the completely static backgrounds.
Better were those Amiga exclusives, such as Alien Breed, Supercars, Lotus, Turrican et al. Those games were fine. Everyone who was around wanted to play Moonstone for some reason, wasn't it pretty bad actually? I never liked it.
There was also this game made in Holland, Disposable Hero, it was pretty good!
Oh man Fire and Ice is one of my favorite games ever! I'll definitively read this!
I see many of the Amiga highlights have already been mentioned. Did not see this old gem though:
P. P. Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon
P. P. Hammer and his Pneumatic Weapon
I never owned an Amiga, was more of an Atari ST guy, but looked fondly at some of the games on the Amiga. I could only get one computer and I opted for the ST being that I was a big Atari computer fan from the Atari 800xl. I almost bought an Amiga last year, but was out-bid for a CIB Amiga on Ebay.
Awesome thread! No idea how I missed it, and I love that we have actual amiga insiders posting here, and not just us mere users posting our favorite games and software :)
Amiga has made me into a professional that I am today. I will never not feel thankful to people who created it, and who developed software for it.
Amiga has made me into a professional that I am today. I will never not feel thankful to people who created it, and who developed software for it.
Moonstone was a fantastic game. Everyone loved it for a reason :) Disposable Hero might actually be my favorite shmup game! It had just enough resource management to make it strategic and involving in a way that no other game of that kind did. Plus it had a certain story/adventure aspect to it. Absolutely loved playing that game and I still revisit it from time to time. I thought it was made by an Italian team, but now checking the mobyganes, it appears they were indeed from the Netherlands.
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If you're mainly using the Amiga for Octamed you may try using a Pi build. Since the complete rewrite of UAE4ARM it's now the most powerful Amiga bar the ppc ones (thanks to Amiberry).
I definitely recommend checking it out before dropping some serious cash on an A1200
Amazing what were able to make out of 1mb of RAM. I loved Octamed, never used the eight channel mode due to the hit on audio quality.
Hmm, that's VERY interesting!
Didn't UAE on the Raspberry had issues some time ago? I think I read something about that on this very board but it could very well be my memory fooling me... :-\
Kim Justice just put out an epic two and a half out long video on Sensible Software with loads of input form Jon Hare himself. I'm sure the Amiga crowd will appreciate it.
I inherited an Amiga 500 from my cousin back in the day, still one of my most favourite consoles.
Cannon Fodder, Alien Breed: Tower Assault, Walker, Chaos Engine, Speedball, Fire & Ice, Jaguar XJ220, Jim Power. Such a fantastic array of games I played almost daily.
Cannon Fodder, Alien Breed: Tower Assault, Walker, Chaos Engine, Speedball, Fire & Ice, Jaguar XJ220, Jim Power. Such a fantastic array of games I played almost daily.
I believe people have fond memories of Moonstone because A) it was legit good B) it reviewed poorly, at least around here.
I remember it getting 65-75 scores, but ended up owning a copy somehow and thought it was a bit of an average game, but at the same time i was having a lot of fun.
A little rough around the edges here and there, but I kept coming back to it again and again, until i decided it was just a great game and quite addictive. No idea what was up with reviews.
A lot of merciless, masochistic fun. Hit reactions really made the game, especially back then when most games lacked any tangible feeling mostly because of poor animations.
It's amazing that after 30 or so years Amiga community is still going strong. I had an A500 back in the day and sadly sold it ages ago. In recent years I've bought A500 and A1200 as well. And when I bought the A1200 the hobby started to become more and more expensive with accelator cards etc. Still, can't complain, it's an Amiga.
I've also enjoyed many great books during the last couple of years. Currently I'm waiting for David Pleasence's The Inside Story and Brian Bagnall's final book in Commodore's history series. Bagnall's first two books are some of the best ones in gaming history literature.
I've also enjoyed many great books during the last couple of years. Currently I'm waiting for David Pleasence's The Inside Story and Brian Bagnall's final book in Commodore's history series. Bagnall's first two books are some of the best ones in gaming history literature.
I fully agree with this. In fact, I'd say at first I couldn't even handle the weird d-pad when I bought a Mega Drive. Some games just don't work with d-pad. Like Speedball 2 or Sensible Soccer just to name a few. Of course one needs to have a good joystick.
I had an Amiga when iw as pretty young
The games i feel you missed here - and which blew my tiny little mind - were the Cinemaware games
Defender of the Crown, it Came from the Dessert, Rocketeer - they were so visually impressive at the time. i used to show them to my friends who had Spectrums of C64 and they couldn't believe it
Also Kick Off was the game everyone had in the UK at least.
The games i feel you missed here - and which blew my tiny little mind - were the Cinemaware games
Defender of the Crown, it Came from the Dessert, Rocketeer - they were so visually impressive at the time. i used to show them to my friends who had Spectrums of C64 and they couldn't believe it
Also Kick Off was the game everyone had in the UK at least.
I think the Amiga was peak gaming for me. Just watched a Hero's Quest: So you want to be a Hero playthrough a couple of nights ago. The flood of nostalgia was overwhelming.
Thanks for the heads up, last time I looked at a pi based Amiga was a few years ago. I'm guessing I should go for the latest version (3 I think)? I have a 2 lying around somewhere but if the newer models offer a performance gain I'll happily grab one.
4 tracks for life! Forced me to get so much more creative compared to having the comparitively unlimited resources of later DAWs, hence why I still load it up from time to time.
I love my Amiga growing up, but in retrospect, I don't think many of the games have aged well compared to their console counterparts.
The primary reason being the single button on the joystick - it made it hard to develop suites of complimentary mechanics in action games, or requiring the Player to use the keyboard alongside the joystick.
As a result, its simpler games still hold up well, but 'classics' such as Gods feel slow, fussy and simple.
Saying that, late title Oddysey is the closest the Amiga got to a proper Metroidvania, and did it very well.
The primary reason being the single button on the joystick - it made it hard to develop suites of complimentary mechanics in action games, or requiring the Player to use the keyboard alongside the joystick.
As a result, its simpler games still hold up well, but 'classics' such as Gods feel slow, fussy and simple.
Saying that, late title Oddysey is the closest the Amiga got to a proper Metroidvania, and did it very well.
Games like Street Fighter 2 definitely. But also, I think it's the other way around. You can still enjoy Speedball 2 or Sensible Soccer using a joystick. It just feels perfect. On consoles those feel weird. Also, Amiga does have the keyboard so some complex games really benefit from that.
Just look up amiberry tutorials on youtube , there are even comparaison videos showcasing the progress
Down tjhe road, an Asus Tinkerboard is going to be an even better Amiga once Amiberry is properly ported there (the TinkerBoard's GPU is lightyears ahead of the Pi 3's and the CPU is vastly better too for just a 20$ premium)
Definitely - fast paced sports games worked well with the single button, whilst games like First Samurai put it to good use in an elegant combat system (although the faster speed and lack of camera lag in the SNES port make it the superior version). And mouse driven titles like Syndicate could combine action and tactics well.
But looking at the platform as a whole and how long it was out, there weren't many mechanically deep or nuanced games that stand the test of time. We saw devs try to compete to recreate the speed and parallax of Sonic, but noone get close to the dynamics of something like Mario World. And trying comparing action RPGs like Darkmere to something like Link's Awakening on the original GB.
RType was great on amiga (nostalgia memories)
I loved risky woods :)
That game was made by Zeus software who brought us Biomechanical Toy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSa2YdYjyls
I loved risky woods :)
That game was made by Zeus software who brought us Biomechanical Toy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSa2YdYjyls
Wow, I can't believe I missed this thread either!
Just read the OP and skimmed some posts and it brings back so many memories!
I had an amiga 600! (not sure if they get many shout outs in the thread) .
I've got many similar memories:-
The song in cannon fodder
The tutankhamen picture in deluxe paint
And there are games I had completely forgotten but actually played quite a bit (chaos engine).
Flashback has just come out on Xbox... I'm sorely tempted to actually play it and try and finish it.
Edit - flashback has 7 registered players on TrueAchievements and not one of them has finished it yet! Crazy.
(I never got through first level)
Just read the OP and skimmed some posts and it brings back so many memories!
I had an amiga 600! (not sure if they get many shout outs in the thread) .
I've got many similar memories:-
The song in cannon fodder
The tutankhamen picture in deluxe paint
And there are games I had completely forgotten but actually played quite a bit (chaos engine).
Flashback has just come out on Xbox... I'm sorely tempted to actually play it and try and finish it.
Edit - flashback has 7 registered players on TrueAchievements and not one of them has finished it yet! Crazy.
(I never got through first level)
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Ah.. Soccer Kid! The pixel art in that game is great and still holds up.
Absolutely loved my Amiga 500, even had a monitor for it. Used to draw a bunch on it and make juvenile animations. Played cannon fodder and the pinball games.
Still kind of regret selling it and getting a 486 pc. Well I don't regret getting a pc but getting rid of the Amiga.
Still kind of regret selling it and getting a 486 pc. Well I don't regret getting a pc but getting rid of the Amiga.
I remember Project X being amazing at the time. It isn't quite so right now!
I wonder how Shadow Of The Beast 3 is nowadays. Of the three games, it was the best to play. Fantastic puzzles, graphically unique and accomplished. Peak Amiga.
The story of the Amiga, Commodore, Atari and Jack Tremiel is probably the most interesting in all of gaming history and nobody tells it better than Kim Justice.
Personally I was an ST owner, but was very jealous of my friends Amiga as it was clearly loads better.
Personally I was an ST owner, but was very jealous of my friends Amiga as it was clearly loads better.