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Oct 31, 2017
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That figure is per power unit! (Engine elements: ICE = Internal Combustion Engine / TC = Turbo Charger / MGU-H = Motor Generator Unit - Heat / MGU-K = Motor Generator Unit - Kinetic / ES = Energy Store / CE = Control Electronics).

There are talks to further reduce costs from 2021 by possibly removing the MGU-H element from the power units.

It should be noted these numbers are rough estimates, it is extremely hard to find any concrete info on actual costs. Also worth noting is that some customer teams like Sauber will get an engine supply at a discount, essentially Sauber are a Ferrari B-Team, signing Ferrari junior academy driver Le Clerc for the upcoming season.

Ah, thank you kindly for the breakdown.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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Worth noting that unless something has changed, ESPN is using the "world feed" in lieu of their own commentary team.

Good. NBCSN had Buxton, but was low budget. I've just been watching Sky broadcasts for years, which were far better with no commercials and extensive pre and post race coverage.

I can't wait for a streaming service.
 

Spiderz

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Oct 25, 2017
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After 5 weeks last year the table was:

VET 68
HAM 61
BOT 38
RAI 34

After 5 races last year the table was:

VET 104
HAM 98
BOT 63
RAI 53

So yeah, I guess that stroll to victory by 5 time WDC Sebastian Vettel was pretty nailed on.
I'm not talking about it terms of WDC winner, I was talking about it being Mercedes and Ferrari being the only two that would be in contention and as a RBR fan that was in the middle of moving and starting my masters program, It didn't hold my interest.
 

aspiegamer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh man, Paul Ricard is what took over from Malaysia? Ugh. I think I'd prefer literally any other previous circuit. Well, maybe not Korea. But anything else.
Interesting to see no open driver slots. I feel like there are always last minute spots open. Bummer about the halo, excited about everything else.
The superlicense rules are pretty strict. No one can walk in as a pay driver or a lower series prodigy anymore without some kind of actual success in championships, and in most cases it takes 2-3 years of performing well to qualify.
Please don't be a procession this year.
Aaahahahaha. Even if the cars are more even, it's going to take the next aero overhaul in a few years moving more to ground effects to change things. It doesn't help that the majority of the tracks have designs that make overtaking nearly impossible in these cars. That or pray that the tyre degradation is up massively and performance gaps between compounds are huge.
 

Shaneus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Wonder what the coverage for Australian TV will be like, and what the alternatives for watching races live will be. I'm guessing none/illegal.
 

ODD

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Oct 25, 2017
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The superlicense rules are pretty strict. No one can walk in as a pay driver or a lower series prodigy anymore without some kind of actual success in championships, and in most cases it takes 2-3 years of performing well to qualify.
Funny that they implemented these rules because of Verstappen, probably the best driver to arrive on that grid since Lewis Hamilton, lol.
 

Dan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Raikkonen was pretty controversial when Sauber signed him too. Thankfully we have the stricter superlicence system now, so that only drivers like Stroll can get in and preserve F1's racing integrity.

Raikkonen was very controversial when he entered F1. Ron Dennis in particular was pretty vocal.

Of course, that didn't stop him from signing Kimi a few months later.
 

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Funny that they implemented these rules because of Verstappen, probably the best driver to arrive on that grid since Lewis Hamilton, lol.
Indeed. Even Stroll has managed to not end up 100% horrible (when he's not crashing the car), but I think this is a good system. In order to instantly qualify you need to place top 3 in F2 (or win IndyCar, which I assume is the FIA trying to throw a bone to Americans). Even winning any of the F3 series isn't enough on its own and it effectively forces all but instant legendary drivers to spend at least 2 years in the advanced feeder series before entering F1.
 

Shaneus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Drivers I'm rooting for this year:
Danny (obviously)
Hartley (has Webber's endorsement!)
Alonso (pity)

Figure that's a good, even spread over the top and mid-tier teams. Curious about the new Russki driving for Williams, but hardly getting excited for him.
 

RoKKeR

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh yeah, RIP NBC. Will Buxton is a class act, and the commentary crew wasn't fantastic but they made me laugh now and then.
 

jey_16

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Oct 28, 2017
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Still can't believe the teams agreed to the 3 engine rule, how many races are we going to see where the drivers are going to have to back off to preserve the engine?
 

psyer

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, Liberty Media just gave it to ESPN.
Yeah NBC wanted exclusive streaming rights for F1 which Formula 1 was not going to give. Since they were setting up their own OTT service for Formula 1.

So they gave it to ESPN probably so they can get a discount to use the BamTech technology for F1's OTT service when they start that up.

There is also rumors that ESPN will just use the Sky commentators for the races.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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Finally the longer drivers will no longer be penalized for something they can't control.
 
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I've never facepalmed during one of these, but Paddy managed it. How on Earth did he not get that?
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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Nice Photoshop job :)

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Sirotkin has picked #35, as his first 3 picks of 3, 5 and 27 were all already taken. Those were al numbers he had when he was successful in the past.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm curious what the 2018 cars with Halo will look like.
I can't wait for the cars that were designed with them in mind to be just as ugly.

Not sure how I am going to watch this year, any service I sign up for will pretty much only be for F1.
 
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Brot

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Oct 25, 2017
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You just jump in and watch. It's a huge global series and stuff is explained frequently.

F1 also makes it hard to actually go back and watch their amazing history anyways.
Someone else mentioned it, but following their YouTube channel is a good idea, too. They have great videos on it that can ease you in a little.
 

AlsoZ

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Oct 29, 2017
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Someone else mentioned it, but following their YouTube channel is a good idea, too. They have great videos on it that can ease you in a little.
Nowadays it's really quite decent. Quick highlight summaries of the sessions in a few minutes, track info, historical bits, interviews, quizzes with F1 personalities etc.
 
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Is there a car reveal timeline? Usually the teams reveal their new cars around this time but I can't find anything about it.

Edit:

Found this
Ferrari: February 22
McLaren: February 23
Toro Rosso: February 25