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Z-Beat

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm also on the Hopper and Steve are the best characters. I'm also liking Lucas a whole lot more this season. He was good last season but like all the little moments with him and his family, Dustin and his mom as well.

I think that was a direct reaction to criticism of the first season of where Lucas' family is and why no one cares about Barb
 

bob_arctor

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Oct 25, 2017
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Personally, the worst thing you can do aside from full-on spoilers is read reactions on here episode to episode. Best to go in totally blind and then come back, but thats just me.
 

BladeX

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Oct 30, 2017
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I am on episode 8 atm, I really feel disappointed with season 2 thus far...

not spoilers just reaction but for the sensitive ones i put spoilers:
I especially dislike the way they treated the romances and the characters involved in them. Also I feel like the season is very predictable and certain character arcs and events play out exactly as you expect them to be. And they feel forced too...

Season 1 was captivating because it was pretty unpredictable for me, yet season 2 feels like the producers took a poll with the audience and just decided to make the most popular opinion happen.
Still 1 episode left though, but I dont think it is going to change my mind overall, maybe improve it a bit.
 

Voytek

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just finished. Thought it was a decent season even though I did find myself getting bored quite a bit.The characters and actors keep me in it when the story did not.

Nancy has chosen poorly. Steve is way better than whatshisface
 

mutantmagnet

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Oct 28, 2017
12,401
While I think it could be a way to open the door for
Papa
again I feel like it could also be a way to open the door to the possibility of
Eight becoming an antagonist. It shows that Eight is willing to use her powers to manipulate people emotionally into doing her bidding. When you stop and think about it, what Eight did to Eleven is a really fucked up way to try to keep Eleven on her team. Basically, she's not as noble as she claims to be


I don't know why you would think the show would try to portray her as noble from the start. That never crossed my mind from episode 1.


Eh, I guess. It just felt completely unnecessary. Eleven could've easily strengthened her powers herself, she didn't need Kali's Yoda training for that. Kali doesn't mentor Eleven in any way, she just says "Hey, use your anger" and it works. Honestly, I feel like this season would've been more interesting if they had just left Eleven dead (and I know they would've never, ever done this, but whatever). This season clearly showed IMO they didn't really know what to do with her except for being a Deus Ex Machina.


That's an unfair point. Eleven was the reason the doorway was created from season 1.
 

MilesQ

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not really sure how good this series will be when the kids are in their teens and not as focused on their nerdy stuff like WoW and whatnot.

That's part of the appeal, kids being kids and crazy shit happening around them, but season 3 will have them in their teens and trying to keep the same dynamic as seasons 1 and 2 just won't work. There were cracks all over the place in season 2.

As for new characters, Kali was cool and I'm looking forward to seeing her more but I wasn't a fan of Zac Efron. Max was cool though.
 

Bronx-Man

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Oct 25, 2017
15,351
It's gonna be interesting seeing Mike, Will, Lucas, Dustin, Max, Nancy, Jon, & Steve all together in the same place next year. That's assuming the kids are high school freshmen in season 3 and the teens are seniors.
 

Gezech

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Oct 28, 2017
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I liked S2 more than S1, outside of episode 7 that stuck out like a sore thumb. The new characters were also great additions to the cast.

Also, I don't know why some of you say that Nancy's still deciding between Steve and Jonathan, it looked pretty clear-cut that she ended it with Steve (or rather he ended it with her).
 

ManaByte

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's gonna be interesting seeing Mike, Will, Lucas, Dustin, Max, Nancy, Jon, & Steve all together in the same place next year. That's assuming the kids are high school freshman in season 3 and the teens are seniors.

The Duffers said in the after show that they will be going into High School next year.

I hope they manage to keep around their middle-school science teacher, Dustin and him are awesome together.
 

mutantmagnet

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Oct 28, 2017
12,401
Because we later find out she's
killing people who did bad things to her and others. They try to make her look a little noble

My first impression from the first episode was that she she was a thief or mischief maker. Once we get around to 7 we see despite being part of a group she does feel alone and is relieved to have someone like Jane in here life and was overly enthusiastic about. She easily came across as damaged goods pretty quick. The only thing that on the surface looked noble was how receptive she was with Jane and specifically how she said Jane has a choice to stay with her friends. If it wasn't for that specific line I think you would be totally off base in how the show is presenting her so my stance is that you should've at least been suspicious because there are a few things glaringly sketchy about her (like the people she associated with before Jane came along).

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SpankyDoodle

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think people need to remember that the Duffer Bros don't view Stranger Things as a TV series, they view it as an 8-9 hour movie. So yes, introducing a character in the opening scene only to have them not become relevant until later in the movie does make sense and is a really common thing to do in movies and storytelling in general. ST and ST2 are broken into chapters/episodes to make it easier to watch but they're meant to be thought of as one single movie not 8-9 individual episodes within a season. It's the same concept behind showing something intense happening and then cut to three weeks earlier and you don't get to the event that opened the movie until the climax.

Also how anyone can be surprised by hints regarding a certain character is beyond me, we all were calling it the second it happened that they'd do that at some point. Stranger Things doesn't exactly shy away from embracing classic horror movie tropes and cliches, sure they turn some of them on their ear but not all of them. Depending on the execution of said tropes that's part of what makes it fun.
 

Whompa

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Oct 26, 2017
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This thread should be unmarked spoilers at this point, no?

Anywho, I enjoyed this season quite a bit. I think Season 1 had a better opening and Season 2 had a better closing. I can't reiterate enough how fantastic that last episode was.

I really hope they're all on board for another season, as there's a few clues scattered about that could lead to some interesting story bits for a potential season 3.
 
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ManaByte

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Oct 27, 2017
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This thread should be unmarked spoilers at this point, no?

Anywho, I enjoyed this season quite a bit. I think Season 1 had a better opening and Season 2 had a better closing.

I really hope they're all on board for another season, as there's a few clues scattered about that could lead to some interesting story bits for a potential season 3.

They're all on board, although it's possible Jonathan could be written out.
 

Anoregon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait, are the middle School and high school on the same campus? That's how it looked with Max and Billy carpooling.
 

Satanael

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Oct 27, 2017
218
Well, this season subverted nothing and telegraphed most of its developments.

Bob's death was super cheap.

But I'll be damned if the last episode wasn't perfect.

Shame this wasn't the ending.
 

bob_arctor

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Oct 25, 2017
93
I have to say this:

I can watch the Eleven levitation power up scene over and over and over. The music, the feels, the catharsis. Every time.
 

croc

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Oct 27, 2017
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Indianapolis
Wait wait wait. I saw a bunch of people hating on episode 7 earlier in the thread and I just finished it and loved it. It was one of my favorites in the season so far. I thought it was great to see
11 get to know more kinds of people and experiences.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I kept thinking that there was no way that episode 7 was as bad as you guys were saying. The first 6 episodes were great yadda yadda yadda, but boy was I wrong... That was one of the worst episodes of TV I've seen in recent memory.
 

Lady Murasaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wanted so bad that Max and Billy were part of a infiltrated family of russian spies looking for the projects of the Hawkins Lab that I got really disappointed. But maybe this is just me :v

I watched almost all of ''Beyond Stranger Things'' and I thought that The Duffers have a lot less things already planned, even for this season, than I thought. I guess this may be because of the original anthology format a la AHS that I heard the show was supposed to be.
 
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Haven't read a single post in this thread yet, but I want to say, WTF at EP7. Man, that tripe was irredeemable and kind of left a little rot on my enjoyment of the rest of the season. What happened?
 

ManaByte

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I wanted so bad that Max and Billy were part of a infiltrated family of russian spies looking for the projects of the Hawkins Lab that I got really disappointed. But maybe this is just me :v

I watched almost all of ''Beyond Stranger Things'' and I thought that The Duffers have a lot less things already planned, even for this season, than I thought. I guess this may be because of the original anthology format a la AHS that I heard the show was supposed to be.

The original plan was for it to be like It where the first season was them as kids and then the second half is them as adults (well, in college in this case). But the show was such a hit Netflix wanted the kids back so they expanded the plan to four, and now maybe more, seasons with the plan still being to have the final season being them as adults.
 

Lady Murasaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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The original plan was for it to be like It where the first season was them as kids and then the second half is them as adults (well, in college in this case). But the show was such a hit Netflix wanted the kids back so they expanded the plan to four, and now maybe more, seasons with the plan still being to have the final season being them as adults.

This sounds very interesting. I would like to see 4 seasons with these timeskips.
 

davepoobond

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait wait wait. I saw a bunch of people hating on episode 7 earlier in the thread and I just finished it and loved it. It was one of my favorites in the season so far. I thought it was great to see
11 get to know more kinds of people and experiences.

People are hating it cause it sucked and nothing happens. They just leave and eleven peaces out then saves the day. Nothing that happened in episode 7 mattered

They didn't even have any sort of psychic battle which is what I thought we were getting set up for.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Why does everyone keep saying this? All the articles I've read state that they only found "traces of white powder on his personal items."

Traces of cocaine =/= a bunch of cocaine

Yep. Plus all these posters talking about him being written out or replaced....that's just tales from the internet's ass unless there's some source out there that I'm unaware of. There's no reason to believe he won't be back over this. Should just be a blip on the radar unless there's a much bigger problem under the surface that we don't know about.
 

SpankyDoodle

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Oct 25, 2017
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People are hating it cause it sucked and nothing happens. They just leave and eleven peaces out then saves the day. Nothing that happened in episode 7 mattered

They didn't even have any sort of psychic battle which is what I thought we were getting set up for.
Thats factually not right though, you can not like it but without episode 7 El wouldn't have been taught to harness her anger and channel it into her powers giving her the ability to do more than she was ever capable of before. If 7 never happened everyone would have died and the world would have ended. It's a weird episode sure but it absolutely impacts the outcome of this season and opens up a lot of shit for future stories and spinoffs.
 

croc

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Oct 27, 2017
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Thats factually not right though, you can not like it but without episode 7 El wouldn't have been taught to harness her anger and channel it into her powers giving her the ability to do more than she was ever capable of before. If 7 never happened everyone would have died and the world would have ended. It's a weird episode sure but it absolutely impacts the outcome of this season and opens up a lot of shit for future stories and spinoffs.
Not only that but it explores more of the relationship with 8 as well as 11's background. That episode gave us a ton of background info and character development about 11 that we wouldn't have had otherwise
 

Praxis

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just finished this season and haven't read anything about it before now. Pretty shocked to see so many negative comments as I thoroughly enjoyed it the whole way through, it was an excellent follow-up to the original.
 
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Mementos
Just finished this season and haven't read anything about it before now. Pretty shocked to see so many negative comments as I thoroughly enjoyed it the whole way through, it was an excellent follow-up to the original.
Yup. Some parts weren't as good as the first and it felt a bit more Tv-y, but it was still damn good. I would watch an entire season of the episode 7 concept. Reminded me of X-Men. I was thinking this would be a cool reinterpretation. I think I might go back tonight just to watch that one. Homegirl's afro was flawless. Goals, Goals!
 

Praxis

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yup. Some parts weren't as good as the first and it felt a bit more Tv-y, but it was still damn good. I would watch an entire season of the episode 7 concept. Reminded me of X-Men. I was thinking this would be a cool reinterpretation. I think I might go back tonight just to watch that one. Homegirl's afro was flawless. Goals, Goals!


I too would like to see more of the character from episode 7 and I'm a self confessed superhero film/comic hater.
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't know about anyone else but I really liked episode 7 and felt it totally fit in with the rest of the show and featured some great character moments and growth.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yup. Some parts weren't as good as the first and it felt a bit more Tv-y, but it was still damn good. I would watch an entire season of the episode 7 concept. Reminded me of X-Men. I was thinking this would be a cool reinterpretation. I think I might go back tonight just to watch that one. Homegirl's afro was flawless. Goals, Goals!

I thought the episode was awful, but agreed on the 'fro
 

BraXzy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I kinda hoped that Eleven would have a revelation that her powers are stronger when she thinks about hopeful/happy memories instead of continuing down the path of channeling hate and suffering. I suppose that would be too similar to.. something but it's slipping my mind.
 

Joeytj

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Oct 30, 2017
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Loved the season overall, with a lot of the same nitpicks as many, especially about Episode 7.

Honestly, Eleven, or at least Episode 7, would have been removed from the season in general and just showed up at the end of Episode 8 like she did, and that would've been enough. Maybe a few hints of Hopper living with someone else and us only suspecting it was her. And Season 3 would've been Eleven's story while season 2 was taking place.

Episode 7 didn't ruin the season for me, but it did feel shoehorned somewhat. I liked what Eleven learned on her trip, but I don't think in the end it was needed very much.
 

Glenn

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yep, ignoring episode 7, this was a solid season. The last two episodes especially were pretty great.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Episode 8 was phenomenal. Nice bounce-back after the horrendous episode 7. Will is putting on a hell of a performance this season. Emmy nom next year? I also really like the soundtrack. You'd think it'd be corny because of all the 80s music, but it's actually pretty well done.
 
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IIFloodyII

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Oct 26, 2017
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Just finished it and I absolutely loved it, only negative was ep7 for me, nothing super terrible or anything, though pretty bad and didn't really fit in, also just didn't really explain it's self well
like why were those people even helping that girl get revenge? They seem like selfish pricks for the most part
and ruined the pacing a little, the banter in the car on the final episode almost made up for it though.