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Hideki Kamiya has ideas about how Devil May Cry 5 could be made
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I have the utmost respect for Kamiya, in fact I think he's probably my favourite game director, but BRUH just let me have my Devil-May-Cry-ass Devil May Cry. I've been waiting ten years. I'm dying of thirst here. This is not the time to change up the formula.
Monster Hunter needed the shakeup in western audiences
IIRC, in Japan, where Monster Hunter actually is from, the series hasn't changed and World is more of a western audience game. They're afraid of doing the change over there.
Devil May Cry doesn't need a shake. They just need to get DMC4's audience back. That's it.
Yes I played 3 and 4 before DmC. I dont mean DmC is better than previous entries but it just more accessible for me, I am not skilled enough to be able change all the styles on the fly (during combo) like hardcore, which is why I always play Nero or Vergil in Blood Palaces
Seems like development 101 to me. It's also absolutely true.
I don't disagree with him actually, I'd ideally like DMC V to evolve the genre as much as DMC has defined it.
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Actually it's a great game and "hardcore" Devil May Cry fans have proven themselves to be whinging children.
DMCV must have crazy action and white hair anime Dante.
You want to make it more cinematic or horror styled like DMC1 one.. connected like souls instead of missions.. fine. But gameplay and Dante must remain.
Westernizing DMC fuck that noise.
You want to make it more cinematic or horror styled like DMC1 one.. connected like souls instead of missions.. fine. But gameplay and Dante must remain.
Westernizing DMC fuck that noise.
He's right that DMC5 can't just continue with what the original series was doing. Even if they added light open world elements and took the free roaming camera from DmC, there still would have a lot of work on their hands. DmC: Definitive Edition actually took the series in the right direction as it resolved most of the issues of the original game and sold pretty well. 2 million+ sales is nothing to scoff at. Instead of listening to fans who have some personal convictions about a western dev modernizing the series, they should have given Ninja Theory another shot with a sequel. They absolutely proved themselves worthy with the corrections made in Definitive Edition.
If they go the DmC route ever again the series just needs to be put to rest. If anything revive onimusha and you can pull off that shit.
That's definitely not damage control. You're just seeing things you want to see.
... You know Japan is getting World too right?! And what does the west have to do with it, it's still a big change and most long time western and Japanese fans are ok with it?!
Point is, World changed to expand its audience, but despite the change, they captured what the fans love about the series, thus not upsetting old fans.
I'm open to any DMC5 change, long as the core combat is as good as DMC4/3. The same can be said about DmC, if the core combat was as good as DMC4, the hate from the fans would have ended once they put their hand on the demo, but the opposite of that happened because DmC problem wasn't the change, it was the quality!
How about DMCV puts the franchise back on track instead? Last time the series tried to "reinvent" itself it almost died permanently.
lol at everyone taking Kamiya seriously
He just wants to kill the competition and give bad advice.
He just wants to kill the competition and give bad advice.
With the current positive trend I am seeing with Street Fighter 5: Arcade Edition, Resident Evil 7(though this is technically 2017) and Monster Hunter World. Capcom does look like it's making a very strong come back this first quarter alone.
I have rising hopes that, if DMC5 is a thing, it'll have a strong showing.
I have rising hopes that, if DMC5 is a thing, it'll have a strong showing.
I would also love a reimaging of Bayonetta too while we're at it... but I doubt it's gonna happen.
GOW looks terrible, and DMCV should be a game about deep gameplay that gives players tools to learn it and should have a fun protagonist like 3 and 4 had.
That said I love Kamiya.
That said I love Kamiya.
Uhm no thanks. Devil May Cry should be Devil May Cry if i want to play a different game i will play that.
Kamiya likes the God of War series so it makes sense he's fascinated by what they're doing with 4. Now I'm really curious to see his own spin on something like that. Obviously he's just spitballing though.
Hahahaha
I mean, he's right, even if DMC5 is an attempt to get back to old roots there's no way Capcom will want to just release DMC4.5 - they will inevitably have to experiment in how they can apply modern design conventions without diluting the experience too much.
I think that would be pretty cool to see, even if I personally would rather DMC V be more faithfully than not.
I do think the series needs an overhaul in terms of level design. Give me a Dark Souls like world to explore but with the Devil May Cry signature action with more destructible environments and globs of particle effects. I'm not sure I agree with the whole third-person God of War camera for DMC, would just feel not as free in the combat department as DMC games usually are.
I think the years of terribly unfounded hate against DmC and NT are proof enough of that, yes. I just don't know why the fans feel so entitled.
Do you not see the irony of your own posts?
Yeah at least go back to the dmc roots and make it more action horror. Nobodies are still the best enemies shadows second.
Then again, Bayonetta only had 2 games so far (since 2009), against 5 DMC games (since 2001). Maybe that's why he thinks it could use a shake up.
If I wasn't sick such that it literally makes it hurts for me to laugh, I'd be on the damn floor right now.
I don't think this is shade being thrown at Capcom or anything like that. I think this is just about the way Kamiya develops games. Apart from his directorial debut (Resident Evil 2), all of the games he has directed have been original IPs. If there is a new Devil May Cry game, I imagine he'd at least want to see a new take on the series (DmC excluded).
This.
At most we will get Beard/Dad Dante.
I don't think he's wrong by saying simplification of combat and emphasis on visuals would reach a greater audience but that would definitely piss off fans.
Kamiya is my favourite dev, but the way he praises what GoW is doing makes me worried.
Maybe the scalebound cancelation will have an effect on how he design his games since he likes GoW chasing modern trends over the classic Hack and slash gameplay =/.
I really dont see it as entitled (even if I liked DMC for what it was), Capcom can do what they want with the IP, but fans can also dislike their new direction and not buy it.
Maybe the scalebound cancelation will have an effect on how he design his games since he likes GoW chasing modern trends over the classic Hack and slash gameplay =/.
I really dont see it as entitled (even if I liked DMC for what it was), Capcom can do what they want with the IP, but fans can also dislike their new direction and not buy it.