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Nick C

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just saw the stream, didn't followed what happened after that

From a high level, JF/Warski have been in full defense mode since the stream. JF sent "cease and desist" to Destiny, accusing him of defamation. Warski has been telling everyone to stop caling JF a rapist, though he may technically be one. When confronted with this, Warski has been telling people to drop it. All of the details are on Twitter, if you care to look into it any further. It's all been happening over the last day or so.

Edit: The 6-hour streams/VOD isn't directly related to Destiny/JF issue, but it does provide context into the type of person Warski is.
 

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The latest seems to be that people have court documents from his custody proceedings and, surprise, he's completely mental.




I doubt anyone was expecting the monkey stuff.
 

Snack12367

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I would highly advise against looking at the chat for this stream

Seconded. It's about as bad as you can imagine. This is already awful, the double standard held by these people. If this was Destiny they'd be going all in, but not with Spencer.

Styx just said neoliberals are responsible for ever war of the last 100 years. I'm fascinated as to how they can make these claims.

OHHHHHHHHHHHH

Sargon up to bat and he's being treated like an idiot. Ups and downs
 
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Sei

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Sargon is so bad.

Completely misses calling out absolutely false statements.

Runs around in circles saying the same thing.
 

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I'm watching Destiny play League of Legends while he listens to it. I think the sound effects from the game fit quite well.
 

Snack12367

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Listening to Styxfuck make the same points Destiny has made against an Ethnostate is fucking amazing. Also Andy needs to shut the hell up and leave the donation crap till later.
 
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I love how Richard Spencer is holding up Poland as an ethnostate.

Maybe they are an ethnostate because something happened to their biggest minority about 70 years ago
 

Snack12367

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I can feel Destiny want to get involved. The man is piratically jonsing to get involved right now. If his league game goes bad, I could see him hitting Andy with a DM.

I feel it bois
 

Odesu

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So right now there is a stream on the Internet where a dude with a heavy french accent who loves to birth monkeys is moderating a debate between a women-hating-idiot-faux-liberal who is too stupid to articulate what a liberal even is and the posterchild for literal Neo-Nazis about the value of Nazism? And a video game streamer streams that shitshow while playing League of Legends in the background, dropping his wisdom in between?

Listen guys, you are great, but if you care about any of this you are in way too deep. You gotta get out. Save yourselves. None of this has any value to anything ever. This has the intellectual and societal relevance of two elephants propelling shit at each other, only there you can actually learn something and go "WHOA, Elephants can use their tails to fling their shit everywhere? That's amazing!".
 

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So right now there is a stream on the Internet where a dude with a heavy french accent who loves to birth monkeys is moderating a debate between a women-hating-idiot-faux-liberal who is too stupid to articulate what a liberal even is and the posterchild for literal Neo-Nazis about the value of Nazism? And a video game streamer streams that shitshow while playing League of Legends in the background, dropping his wisdom in between?

Listen guys, you are great, but if you care about any of this you are in way too deep. You gotta get out. Save yourselves. None of this has any value to anything ever. This has the intellectual and societal relevance of two elephants propelling shit at each other, only there you can actually learn something and go "WHOA, Elephants can use their tails to fling their shit everywhere? That's amazing!".
This is the world we live in now. Might as well try to enjoy the memes.
 
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So right now there is a stream on the Internet where a dude with a heavy french accent who loves to birth monkeys is moderating a debate between a women-hating-idiot-faux-liberal who is too stupid to articulate what a liberal even is and the posterchild for literal Neo-Nazis about the value of Nazism? And a video game streamer streams that shitshow while playing League of Legends in the background, dropping his wisdom in between?

Isn't the internet amazing?
 

Rats

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Not quite at home yet, but I can't wait to watch the Destiny VOD of this. His live-tweeting alone is pretty great.
 

Clowns

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why would any of you subject yourselves to watching that

what possible gain could there be
 

Rats

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Went back through Destiny's stream and listened to the parts he listened to. What a shit show.

I'll just quote myself:

No responsible person on the left is going to take Warski up on this, which will inevitably be spun as the left being "scared" to debate Spencer. And whatever shitter he manages to secure as "opposition" will be woefully unprepared to effectively engage with the arguments.

But hey, it's just the marketplace of ideas, free speech and all that.

It's like I can see the future or something.
 
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I'd actually say Contra is. Destiny may have a similar sense of humor to me, *but I need some form of friendly banter there for the purpose of comedy when it comes to unedited content, and the debate style certainly isn't that, at least not intentionally. I went into that Jontron debate for the sake of information and not to laugh, though I definitely did in an "everything is burning down" sort of way.
Fair enough, do you enjoy Contra's content though?
Also, hopefully none of your other dudes end up like Jontron.
Based off of some of the comments here, I checked out ContraPoint's channel and ended up watching three hours of her stuff. Amazing content.
Hey that's awesome! Always great to hear that the thread helped people find good content producers.
Depends how much you enjoy elephant dung.
Unfortunately quite a bit.
 
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Fair enough, do you enjoy Contra's content though?
Also, hopefully none of your other dudes end up like Jontron.

I like her editing style, usage of absurdism, non-sequiturs, and have learned a bunch even if I don't always agree with her conclusions. Only thing that would make her perfect for me would be a more over the top/bombastic delivery. Back when I watched Jontron, his delivery style was pretty much perfect for me as far as informative critiques went. As far as I know, no one has that kind of delivery with leftist youtubers, but some of the "skeptics" do :/

And yeah, I feel like some of the guys I like are teetering on the edge of becoming the next Jontron, but I think most just want to be as apolitical as possible in an extremely politically volatile climate even if they'll say some questionable stuff from time to time because they never had to think about it before. If they do have the same beliefs as Jon, I hope they never actually make that known and signal boost said beliefs with their relatively large platforms.
 

Superking

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Carl, champion of the Left.

Fucking hell. Even if that were true, he's only "on the Left" when it comes to economics (and even that's debatable cause he's a fucking idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about).

Anyone watch that stream want to give us the cliff notes?

edit: oh I see lots of you are already.
 
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Spencer has always been fairly well spoken and appears to be knowledgeable. It's how he got so popular. Him calling Sargon an idiot should have no weight or standing on how you view either.
 

Superking

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I've been seeing a lot of comments about Sargon on Twitter, but hardly anything about that Styxhammer douche. Did he do anything useful?
 

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I've been seeing a lot of comments about Sargon on Twitter, but hardly anything about that Styxhammer douche. Did he do anything useful?
From the little bit I watched it was mainly him saying "Can I say something?" And failing to get a word in, and then when he did he just waffled on for a bit without adding much of anything. I'm sure he had a few clangers in there though.
 

Snack12367

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I was watching it, then about 30 mins I realised that all that was going to happen for the next 4 hours was Sargorn being such an idiot by challenging Spencer on really dumb things, like group social contracts, to the point it makes Spencer looks reasonable. Styx would keep asking the same question, but taking increasingly longer each time to finish asking the question. Andy was just Andy and Spencer was his usual racist self.

I might listen to it now that it's done, but if this has made me realise anything, YouTube don't give a shit about what goes on their platform.
 

Mifec

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Dusty put out a video going over JF "I luv her you eedot" Gariepy's "race realism" video

 
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Oh and Sargon said "we wuz kangz" at some point which I assume is some sort of racist meme.

Indeed it is, but he was using it ironically to attempt to show how absurd Spencer's tyrannical ethnostate would be. Sargon is a libertarian and values individual rights. Sargon got Spencer to admit that he does not value individual rights, and is a proponent of censorship. In addition, Spencer stated that it's wrong to censor him because his ideology is right. But others should indeed be censored, and when they have the ethnostate, they will be. Pointing out that these people don't have a fundamental belief in liberty and/or free speech is jarring for normal people to hear and thats a score against nazism.

That's where the we wuz kangs came in. He was saying that Spencer wanted to install a tyrannical government that would destroy the western society that spencer claims to love. And that Spencer's only justification for it is for white people, "we wuz kangs". Could have been worded better to not be a dipshit, but it was a valid point.

Overall, for all of Sargon's blunders and failings, he did get a few points in before JF mlady'd Spencer or Andy had to interrupt to read the SUPERCHAT.

Sargon completely failed at calling out so many of the false statements of History by spencer and the others. But that's because he probably believes some of the shit too tbh. The peaceful allocation of land is the most glaring one.
 

Nick C

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Indeed it is, but he was using it ironically to attempt to show how absurd Spencer's tyrannical ethnostate would be. Sargon is a libertarian and values individual rights. Sargon got Spencer to admit that he does not value individual rights, and is a proponent of censorship. In addition, Spencer stated that it's wrong to censor him because his ideology is right. But others should indeed be censored, and when they have the ethnostate, they will be. Pointing out that these people don't have a fundamental belief in liberty and/or free speech is jarring for normal people to hear and thats a score against nazism.

That's where the we wuz kangs came in. He was saying that Spencer wanted to install a tyrannical government that would destroy the western society that spencer claims to love. And that Spencer's only justification for it is for white people, "we wuz kangs". Could have been worded better to not be a dipshit, but it was a valid point.

Overall, for all of Sargon's blunders and failings, he did get a few points in before JF mlady'd Spencer or Andy had to interrupt to read the SUPERCHAT.

Sargon completely failed at calling out so many of the false statements of History by spencer and the others. But that's because he probably believes some of the shit too tbh. The peaceful allocation of land is the most glaring one.

Sadly, I think Sargon's use of the "we wuz kangz" meme was too subtle in pointing out the parallels between Spencer's arguments and those whom use the meme unironically to point out the "idiocy of the black race". Then again, anyone that thinks that way most likely wouldn't care because they've convinced themselves that they are the true master race, made to rule over all inferior skin tones.
 
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So the whole crew just accept whites are the master race and socialism/marxism (clearly interchangeable) is to blame for all of America's issues? Seems reasonable...

Contra's latest vid on the issues of capitalism is pretty good on the other hand.
 

Nikpls

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Let them commit a Digital Homicide, imo.
It's still going to cost Destiny a ton of money, even if JF has no chance of winning. Probably not the best person to bring up in this thread, but remember what happened to H3H3? Ethan and Hila ended up winning, but the fees would have still ruined them without community donations.
 

take_marsh

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JF decided to go full lawyer and sue Destiny? I wonder how JF is gonna prove financial and reputational harm. Or that Destiny "made a false statement of fact".

This will be interesting.
 

Snack12367

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It's still going to cost Destiny a ton of money, even if JF has no chance of winning. Probably not the best person to bring up in this thread, but remember what happened to H3H3? Ethan and Hila ended up winning, but the fees would have still ruined them without community donations.

JF decided to go full lawyer and sue Destiny? I wonder how JF is gonna prove financial and reputational harm. Or that Destiny "made a false statement of fact".

This will be interesting.

I'm not sure if this will make it to court. JF is a self-educated lawyer apparently. Knowing him it will end up just like Digital where the Judge has to get him to resubmit the paper work multiple times and eventually it falls to nothing. Also I don't think Destiny will let JF off the hook like Jim did.