Asian ERA |OT| We don't AGE

ShimshonNehorai · Jan 2, 2018

Power of Sparda said:
Holy crap, I thought I was sensitive. My brother, you have an unpopular stance on the subject and that's fine. Attributing being called out on it to the "hook-nosed lawyers that control the media" stereotype because someone used the word "propaganda" is a bit of a reach imo, but if you're offended by it, better to say why so at least we can understand your sensitivities

I already did. See here...

ShimshonNehorai said:
dismissing our perspectives and lived experiences as propaganda is very problematic to me. It also implicitly (albeit perhaps unintentionally) draws on ingrained stereotypes of Jewish deceit and media control.

To put it another way, my people are constantly (and I do mean *constantly*) accused of exaggerating our suffering for personal or political gain. Almost every time one of us claims something is antisemitic or otherwise oppressive, we are met with eye rolls and strenuous declarations that the speaker is "not an antisemite". And yes, this is deeply infuriating, not only because it's hypocritical (this behavior would never fly with any other minority, but progressives/anti-racists have no qualms doing it to us), but also because it stems from the subconscious, age-old stereotype that we are inherently untrustworthy, thus unreliable narrators of our own lived experiences. Overall, we have the right to name our own reality, and when a Jew claims antisemitism, that can't be brushed aside so easily.

Imagine if another minority group complained of racism, but I dismissed it as "propaganda". How do you think they would react to that? How would you react?

instead of simply reporting the post to the mods ESPECIALLY when you know you you have an unpopular opinion that's being referenced.

The only person I reported was Farooq.

D65 · Jan 2, 2018

Omg Pet those pictures are salivating. Was the pressed pork luke warm?

ShimshonNehorai · Jan 2, 2018

Pet said:
It's a little incredulous people want to argue that propaganda isn't a real thing. Please come back to reality and look at like any country - US, China, North Korea, Russia, Japan, etc.

Of course it's a real thing, but almost every post I've made in here has been about antisemitism, Jewish history, or Jewish culture. I am pro-Israel (and I make no apologies for that), but I'm not some PR mouthpiece for Netanyahu or whatever. All I've done is bring my own perspective to the table, as I was told that was the point of this thread.

Power of Sparda said:
edit: No one is saying that you can't post here or post things that aren't Asian-centric, but it helps.

I suppose I'm just confused as to whether or not Middle Easterners qualify. I remember asking this question months back, and everybody gave me yes answers. That's why I stayed here.

D65 · Jan 2, 2018

Power of Sparda said:
Seriously though, are there NO authentic Cantonese joints in the UK? If I couldn't get my roast pork, salted chicken, and roast duck fix, I'd go nuts!

Outside of special, expensive places, most are typical Westernised food. Out of normal priced places, I think Manchester has really good Cantonese food.

Ymmv

D65 · Jan 2, 2018

My man, read the red text in the OP, you don't have to be Asian to post here regardless. And Fwiw as a Brit the work Asian to me means SA anyway. My colleagues are all called Asian from CA. No one has ever said you're not welcome.

I get that you don't want to be disagreed with when it comes to your opinions, and that's fine, but if you want people to agree with you that's another thing. The point of the thread isn't so you can have a conservation regardless if people want to have it or not.

Pet · Jan 2, 2018

BLOODED_hands said:
I think I have trypophobia? Or a cringey reaction to small clusters of holes and things in a bundle, lol. That noodle picture, although it looks delicious, would make me second guess eating it hah!

I'm jelly Pet ! Nice pictures so far.

Yeah I guess they look a little questionable when you put it that way. It was actually only okay :D.

Also, are you... jellyfish? ha ha ha ha (sorry)

Power of Sparda said:
Now THAT is what I'm talking about! BBQ pork, roast pork, bai ji?, and roast duck. You're keeping it real in Taiwan fo'sho.

Hoisin, scallions, duck, and wrap is all you need for Peking duck. I don't think there's a need to fancy it up or reinvent it imo.

Wait til you see the next batch of photos. They're even more "Taiwanese" in a sense.

Also yeah, I agree. All you need is hoisin, scallions, duck skin, and wrap :D. I like duck skin AND duck meat together (especially if it's juicy).

D65 said:
Omg Pet those pictures are salivating. Was the pressed pork luke warm?

Yeah, it wasn't hot. They did the skin really well imho. Not too oily but also nice and crispy.

I don't know the translation for this, sadly. But, it's a dessert - it's cold! It's taro and lotus seeds.

When we visited my maternal grandma, we also had a TON of food. I didn't take pictures of ALL of them, but here's a few of my favorites.

It's a dessert bread. Hard to describe, but really, really good.

$9 all you can eat hotpot. It's like a buffet, except with nothing but hotpot items. They also had a really fancy espresso machine, a bunch of milk tea / tea / juice machines, desserts, salads, etc.
My grandma scolded me for eating nothing but "non nutritional" stuff. What can I say, I love fish paste and mushrooms.

Some sort of traditional breakfast?

We bought it in the morning from a stall in Kaohsiung. This is how they make it.

Pork rolls, which I liked better than beef rolls. I've never seen this in the US before, QQ. Now that I know it exists, I want it all the time.

Little fruit stand on the side of one of the roads. They used mirrors to make this place look bigger; it's actually quite small. Those lian wu are HUGE and JUICY. Can't get this in the US. Lian wu pictured for size below (also that's the bullet train. 1.5 hours from Taipei to Kaohsiung).

It's not lychee season so none of those-- but surprisingly, cherimoya was EVERYWHERE. It's apparently even better in Taiwan than the US, so next time I HAVE to try it. I LOVE cherimoya.

I ate a suncake outside the Chiang Kai-Shek memorial and this happened (yes, they are enjoying my Chia Te suncake. After sampling a few, I think Chia Te has the best suncakes imho, but Sunny Hills has better pineapple cakes):

Farooq · Jan 2, 2018

ShimshonNehorai you are being quite disingenuous. You linked your blog piece, some parts of which would come straight from an Israeli propaganda outlet.

It glosses over the systematic removal of the indigenous people of the land. You have an agenda, it is quite clear. The facebook post you linked ends with "We never "stole" anything. We came home." And after reading your other blogs, this thread doesn't seem to be the place for it. I did not insult you. I merely suggested you post your Israel political posts in a thread focused on Israel. Yes I wasn't nice about it, I called Israel an apartheid state (So does this UN report). But I don't regret not being nice about it since you reported me for calling out your blatant attempts at linking posts filled with propaganda.

I am done derailing the thread.

BTW, amazing pictures Pet.

ShimshonNehorai · Jan 2, 2018

And to answer the people who have asked me if I'm in here because my Jewish thread went nowhere: yes, that is part of it. The Southwest Asian/North African thread failed too, so this is the only remaining option.

D65 said:
I get that you don't want to be disagreed with when it comes to your opinions, and that's fine, but if you want people to agree with you that's another thing. The point of the thread isn't so you can have a conservation regardless if people want to have it or not.

I don't recall ever saying this, or even suggesting it.

All I'm asking is for people to not insult or antagonize me over my background or the perspective that comes with it. I don't think that's asking for much.

D65 · Jan 2, 2018

All you can eat hot pot.

That is the best idea ever.

I don't know the name of those mushrooms but I've eaten them a bunch and I'm so hungry. I've just eaten too :(

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Smh

Zoe · Jan 2, 2018

ShimshonNehorai said:
And to answer the people who have asked me if I'm in here because my Jewish thread went nowhere: yes, that is part of it. The Southwest Asian/North African thread failed too, so this is the only remaining option.

Is it really succeeding here if most people just ignore the posts though?

Deleted member 1287 · Jan 2, 2018

omg Pet those pictures are lovely. I need to get to Taiwan

Re: propaganda - Some of those sources are bordering on propaganda. They're biased and carry an agenda (yes, I've read the articles and poked around the sites they came from). You've received pushback elsewhere for the articles you've posted because of this.

Anyone is welcome to post in this thread. But I don't think Israeli politics are relevant here and several members seem to feel the same way. It's an extremely volatile and controversial subject and you can't expect to post about it and not have anyone challenge you. Especially when you're using questionable sources.

ShimshonNehorai · Jan 2, 2018

Farooq said:
ShimshonNehorai you are being quite disingenuous. You linked your blog piece,

I linked to my blog when the situation called for it, as that is far easier than typing out all of my thoughts manually (especially since my political posts/comments tend to be long-winded). Is there a problem with that?

some parts of which would come straight from an Israeli propaganda outlet.

Informal fallacy aside, I did my own research and reached my own conclusions. The only Israeli news source I even read on a regular basis is Times of Israel. My articles rely primarily on academic sources, and the only news outlets I recall citing were anti-Israel ones.

It glosses over the systematic removal of the indigenous people of the land.

Answering this in full would require a very long post, and I have no interest in doing that here. Instead, I'll make two simple points...

1. Per Martinez-Cobo's working criteria, which is used by 99 percent of experts in the field, Jews and Samaritans are the indigenous people of the land, not Palestinians. The latter stem from a colonial settler population who invaded and conquered the region in the Middle Ages. We have indeed been treated terribly (and I say "we" because I am of both Palestinian Arab and Jewish descent), and I waste no breath in calling it out and condemning it. But the argument that Palestinians are indigenous to Israel is tantamount to saying white Americans are indigenous to the US, since they too have been here a long time and intermarried with Native Americans. Likewise, calling Jewish olim "colonizers" would be akin to calling Cherokee colonizers if they ever returned to Georgia and regained sovereignty. It's untenable.

2. There was never a "systematic removal". The UN offered to partition the land into a Jewish and an Arab state. The Jews accepted it, but the Arabs did not. Instead, the latter invaded Israel in the hopes of slaughtering every last Jew. That's why the West Bank had no Jews in it after 1948. And while some Arabs within Israel were indeed expelled, the majority fled at the behest of the invading armies, or became Israeli citizens. Arabs make up more than 1/5 of Israel's population today, including some of my relatives.

You have an agenda, it is quite clear.

No, I have a differing viewpoint, and that's fine. I'd be happy to discuss this over PM, if you'd like.

ShimshonNehorai · Jan 2, 2018

Farooq said:
Yes I wasn't nice about it, I called Israel an apartheid state (So does this UN report). But I don't regret not being nice about it since you reported me for calling out your blatant attempts at linking posts filled with propaganda.

And that right there is why I reported you. Instead of honest engagement, you gave me needless antagonism and intellectually lazy dismissals of my perspective (i.e. painting me as some hired Israeli PR goon, instead of addressing the substance of my writing).

As for the UN, it has almost no credibility at this point. It is governed by political interests and majority voting blocs. Even Ban Ki-Moon is on record admitting that the UN is obsessed with Israel.

ShimshonNehorai · Jan 3, 2018

Potater said:
Re: propaganda - Some of those sources are bordering on propaganda. They're biased and carry an agenda (yes, I've read the articles and poked around the sites they came from). You've received pushback elsewhere for the articles you've posted because of this. Especially when you're using questionable sources.

Such as?

Edit: Actually, forget I said anything. I give up. All I did was make an innocuous post on my upcoming trip to Israel, and in response I get *this* shit. No thanks. The constant accusations of "reporting anyone who disagrees with you", even though I repeatedly stated that I am open to being challenged and only reported Farooq for being antagonistic, were the final straw for me. No other marginalized group has their experiences downplayed like this, especially by self-professed anti-racists.

I just can't do it anymore. I'm sorry.

spider · Jan 3, 2018

ShimshonNehorai No one is unwelcomed at any threads here in ResetEra, but there are communities hangouts that cater for focused groups' circumstances. To be honest, I cant see that your posts have been winning hearts nor supports here. Maybe, in a way, your passion is not the passion of the people in this particular community, and your specific battles are not the battles of AsianERA. Don't take it the wrong way, but at the rate you are going now, you may be driving people further to disengage from your posts.

I will of course defer to each community's voice, so correct me if I am wrong, good AsianERA members, but in the past I've observed that AsianERA has been mostly about making friends and food porn and celebrating the various (since "Asia" is not a monolith) cultural aspects that makes us "Asians". Political contents DO get discussed here but they have never been the primary focus of the community.

Deleted member 907 · Jan 3, 2018

ShimshonNehorai said:
I already did. See here...

To put it another way, my people are constantly (and I do mean *constantly*) accused of exaggerating our suffering for personal or political gain. Almost every time one of us claims something is antisemitic or otherwise oppressive, we are met with eye rolls and strenuous declarations that the speaker is "not an antisemite". And yes, this is deeply infuriating, not only because it's hypocritical (this behavior would never fly with any other minority, but progressives/anti-racists have no qualms doing it to us), but also because it stems from the subconscious, age-old stereotype that we are inherently untrustworthy, thus unreliable narrators of our own lived experiences. Overall, we have the right to name our own reality, and when a Jew claims antisemitism, that can't be brushed aside so easily.

Imagine if another minority group complained of racism, but I dismissed it as "propaganda". How do you think they would react to that? How would you react?

The only person I reported was Farooq.

ShimshonNehorai said:
Of course it's a real thing, but almost every post I've made in here has been about antisemitism, Jewish history, or Jewish culture. I am pro-Israel (and I make no apologies for that), but I'm not some PR mouthpiece for Netanyahu or whatever. All I've done is bring my own perspective to the table, as I was told that was the point of this thread.

I suppose I'm just confused as to whether or not Middle Easterners qualify. I remember asking this question months back, and everybody gave me yes answers. That's why I stayed here.

Firstly, your lived experience is valid and I'm not going to tell you want you can or can't be offended by.

Dude, you went straight for the "report" button and while that's your prerogative, it's jumping the gun and you need to be cognizant of what thread you're in. Most of us are East Asian, Southeast Asian, and South Asian. Personally, I don't see anyone calling people from the Middle East "Asian" any more than people would call Russians "Asian," which is directly correlated with the color of their skin. We can have an academic arguments all day about the social constructions and essentialism in race while using different lenses to analyze the subject, and I'd even argue that this is an appropriate thread for it, but you have build context. That said, if someone suggests posting Israel-centric content in a more relevant OT while calling you out on your opinion of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict in the Asian OT, you need to consider where they're coming from instead of jumping at the report button. Reporting that post and having Farooq warned is basically telling them that they're not even welcome in their own house. How would you feel if I made posts about how great China is and how they're in the right when it comes to Tibet if the Israel OT was busier and reported you for saying I had a shitty opinion?

If you don't have your own ethnic/cultural OT to vent in, here is as good as any, just make it topical. You can't expect to have opinions like yours be non-controversial and accepted any more than someone supporting China's actions over Tibet or to have an actual discussion if it isn't really that relevant to most people that frequent this OT.

spider · Jan 3, 2018

ShimshonNehorai said:
Such as?

Edit: Actually, forget I said anything. I give up. All I did was make an innocuous post on my upcoming trip to Israel, and in response I get *this* shit. No thanks. The constant accusations of "reporting anyone who disagrees with you", even though I repeatedly stated that I am open to being challenged and only reported Farooq for being antagonistic, were the final straw for me. No other marginalized group has their experiences downplayed like this, especially by self-professed anti-racists.

I just can't do it anymore. I'm sorry.

This is disingenuous. No one is downplaying your suffering by simply stating that they can't fight your battles for you if those battles are not theirs in the first place.

Crying victim just because people are not willing to be your army isn't going to win you any sympathy.

ShimshonNehorai · Jan 3, 2018

spider said:
No one is unwelcomed at any threads here in ResetEra, but there are communities hangouts that cater for focused groups' circumstances. To be honest, I cant see that your posts have been winning hearts nor supports here. Maybe, in a way, your passion is not the passion of the people in this particular community, and your specific battles are not the battles of AsianERA. Don't take it the wrong way, but at the rate you are going now, you may be driving people further to disengage from your posts.

I will of course defer to each community's voice, so correct me if I am wrong, good AsianERA members, but in the past I've observed that AsianERA has been mostly about making friends and food porn and celebrating the various (since "Asia" is not a monolith) cultural aspects that makes us "Asians". Political contents DO get discussed here but they have never been the primary focus of the community.

That is fair. But as I said previously, the only reason I was even in here is because I was told that Middle Easterners qualified after I asked.

spider said:
This is disingenuous. No one is downplaying your suffering by simply stating that they can't fight your battles for you if those battles are not theirs in the first place.

Crying victim just because people are not willing to be your army isn't going to win you any sympathy.

I never asked anyone to fight my battles or be my army. I don't know where you got that impression.

Power of Sparda said:
Reporting that post and having Farooq warned is basically telling them that they're not even welcome in their own house. .

Edit: Never mind

Knight613 · Jan 3, 2018

I went to Tsuta in Taiwan.

Had the Michelin Star ramen. It was pretty good. Not to mention cheap. Only $10. This would be at least $20 if they ever brought it to the US.

Pet · Jan 3, 2018

D65 said:
All you can eat hot pot.

That is the best idea ever.

I don't know the name of those mushrooms but I've eaten them a bunch and I'm so hungry. I've just eaten too :(

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Smh

King oyster mushrooms? Enokitake?

Potater said:
omg Pet those pictures are lovely. I need to get to Taiwan

Do it! And come back and post pictures so I can be sad that I'm not back there breathing smog (haha) and enjoying $1 boba that's still 10x better than what we can get in socal for $6.

Knight613 - OMIGOD that looks so good! Was that near MRT Shilin or Zhongsan in Taipei?

We had ramen too, but my picture doesn't look as good as yours :(. The bowl was about $5, and it was just what we could find that was open when I didn't want to walk anymore ;_; (we were near MRT Zhongshan).

D65 · Jan 3, 2018

Yeah the Michelin Ramen is pretty good. Did you go to the one in Sugamo?

Edit: Enokitake, that's the one!

SRG01 · Jan 3, 2018

Sigh, I wish I can have a bowl of ramen right now. Midnight right now though.

Knight613 · Jan 3, 2018

Pet Tsuta was right outside the Taipei Main Station. Next to the Michelin Star soy sauce chicken place.

I also went to the Taipei Fish Market. Super cheap sushi. Like 10-15 pieces of uni for $20.

spider · Jan 3, 2018

ShimshonNehorai as i said, no one is unwelcomed at any threads in ResetERA and apologies if i had the wrong impressions of you. Maybe it was because your posts are very political compared to the rest of this thread, but lets move on ? :>

i had pho yesterday, it was glorious :D it was beef tendon and brisket pho * ___ * + broken rice thingy * ___ *

Knight613 · Jan 3, 2018

Trying the Michelin starred chicken at Hawker Chan. Cheapest Michelin starred meal in the world.

D65 · Jan 3, 2018

I'd eat 10 portions of that.

spider · Jan 3, 2018

i am with D65

Deleted member 907 · Jan 3, 2018

It's been so long since I've had good soy sauce chicken. I have a dream my brothers and sisters...

Knight613 · Jan 3, 2018

More food from my day in Taiwan today.

Teriyaki chicken cheese egg toast at Liang Liang Hao

Salted egg lava toast at Cheevit Cheeva

Cheese filled fried hamburger

I'll be going to Jiufen tomorrow. It's the town that inspired the town in Spirited Away.

Pet · Jan 3, 2018

Knight613 - omigod!!!! I heard about the Michelin chicken but didn't get a chance to go :(.

Next time I go to Taiwan I'm going to visit that fish market, ramen shop, and chicken place!!!!!!!

Knight613 · Jan 3, 2018

Pet said:
Knight613 - omigod!!!! I heard about the Michelin chicken but didn't get a chance to go :(.

Next time I go to Taiwan I'm going to visit that fish market, ramen shop, and chicken place!!!!!!!

I thought it was good for what it was, but I probably have to try the one in Singapore since that's the original. It's right next door to the ramen shop across the street from Taipei Main Station.

Don't go during the weekend. Apparently the line is crazy then. There was also this new place that opened up called RAPL that sells custard cream apple pie. It's pretty good, but a bit pricy since 1 is 110 NT so already like $3-4.

I want to try Queen Cream's golden ice cream.

Also McDonalds here has a black sesame McFlurry...

And Burger King has a salted egg burger...

ActStriker · Jan 3, 2018

Fuck I need to go to Taiwan again

Fuck I need to go to Asia again

London food pics in a couple weeks tho!

Knight613 · Jan 3, 2018

ActStriker said:
Fuck I need to go to Taiwan again

Fuck I need to go to Asia again

London food pics in a couple weeks tho!

It's mind boggling how much cheaper food is in Asia compared to the US.

Everything is like half price and tastes the same at worst and better the majority of the time.

The fish market gave me like 10-15 pieces of uni for under $20.

In the US it'd be $20 for like 2 pieces.

Bluesteel · Jan 3, 2018

fawiufhasldfadlfiuawelifuadv

I feel like I missed out on a lot of food in Taiwan this past trip. At least I bought a bunch of pineapple cakes for friends and ate all of them instead.

D65 · Jan 3, 2018

Knight613 said:
It's mind boggling how much cheaper food is in Asia compared to the US.

Everything is like half price and tastes the same at worst and better the majority of the time.

The fish market gave me like 10-15 pieces of uni for under $20.

In the US it'd be $20 for like 2 pieces.

Umm

Where is that Uni from if not California?

Pet · Jan 3, 2018

Knight613 said:
It's mind boggling how much cheaper food is in Asia compared to the US.

Everything is like half price and tastes the same at worst and better the majority of the time.

The fish market gave me like 10-15 pieces of uni for under $20.

In the US it'd be $20 for like 2 pieces.

Seriously right? It blew my mind, especially with boba and breakfast food.

Bluesteel said:
fawiufhasldfadlfiuawelifuadv

I feel like I missed out on a lot of food in Taiwan this past trip. At least I bought a bunch of pineapple cakes for friends and ate all of them instead.

Looool yeah I brought back like 10 cases of pineapple cake.

Bremsstrahlung · Jan 3, 2018

Knight613 said:
It's mind boggling how much cheaper food is in Asia compared to the US.

Everything is like half price and tastes the same at worst and better the majority of the time.

The fish market gave me like 10-15 pieces of uni for under $20.

In the US it'd be $20 for like 2 pieces.

Probably just the exchange rate.

Seriously, though, I had a bit of a problem shopping when I first came to Vienna because everything seemed comparatively more expensive.

Bluesteel · Jan 3, 2018

Cow Mengde said:
Come visit me in China!!!

Pet said:
Seriously right? It blew my mind, especially with boba and breakfast food.

Looool yeah I brought back like 10 cases of pineapple cake.

Did you get Chia Te? Everyone says it's the best and it's all I get, but I see a bunch of other brands and I gotta assume those aren't too shabby either.

With regards to the prices in Asia though, I always feel a little bit bad marveling at food prices. In Taiwan, I went with my friend to Din Tai Fung and spent I think 2K NTD and thought it was pretty cheap, but when I told my aunt and my mom they were shocked that we spent so much on food. For us it's cheap, but for them it's just appropriate for their level of pay and spending habits. I felt pretty bad about flaunting this price difference in Taiwan, but I felt even worse in Indonesia.

Pet · Jan 3, 2018

Bluesteel said:
Did you get Chia Te? Everyone says it's the best and it's all I get, but I see a bunch of other brands and I gotta assume those aren't too shabby either.

meph thinks that Sunny Hills has better quality ingredients but prefers the taste of Chia Te. I don't care for pineapple cakes so I brought back both. However, Chia Te suncakes were superior to all the other kinds I've tried (though admittedly I haven't been to Taizhong yet.)

ActStriker · Jan 3, 2018

Bremsstrahlung said:
Probably just the exchange rate.

Seriously, though, I had a bit of a problem shopping when I first came to Vienna because everything seemed comparatively more expensive.

Bluesteel said:
With regards to the prices in Asia though, I always feel a little bit bad marveling at food prices. In Taiwan, I went with my friend to Din Tai Fung and spent I think 2K NTD and thought it was pretty cheap, but when I told my aunt and my mom they were shocked that we spent so much on food. For us it's cheap, but for them it's just appropriate for their level of pay and spending habits. I felt pretty bad about flaunting this price difference in Taiwan, but I felt even worse in Indonesia.

It partly just people from different places/cultures valuing things differently. Exchange rate does play a factor too though.

Although 2k NTD is like 70 USD so I mean that can be part of it

Bluesteel · Jan 3, 2018

I think value is part of it, but I think as a whole average wages are lower in certain countries for similar positions. I've been doing a bit of reading into Taiwan social/economic issues, and one of the big things that the young people talk about is that the wages they get after graduation is not enough given the prices. You may not be making magnitudes less than a similar position in the US, but chances are it is less. A more "extreme" example is when we went to Indonesia, my friends and I looked at some of the salaries for some skilled positions, and we were shocked how engineers, senior managers make. Of course, in Indonesia that may help you live comfortably and is a good wage compared to the rest of the country, but we felt like it was low and it's not like we're making a ton either.

Overall, it just drove home how much of a luxury and privilege it is to travel.

D65 · Jan 3, 2018

So is there no good Korean food in Norcal? It's my last day and I want to try it.

Im done trying out the many different fast food Burgers America offers.

TrailerParkRanger · Jan 3, 2018

D65 said:
So is there no good Korean food in Norcal? It's my last day and I want to try it.

Im done trying out the many different fast food Burgers America offers.

It depends on what specifically you are looking for. I think the Korean in the East Bay is better than SF personally, but YMMV.

D65 · Jan 3, 2018

TrailerParkRanger said:
It depends on what specifically you are looking for. I think the Korean in the East Bay is better than SF personally, but YMMV.

Hmm, it's also because today is my last and, without sounding rude I am being offered to go to some place called Chef Chu's. It looks good but I'm not feeling it.

Oh well, guess I hope I'll have some good pictures to share.

D65 · Jan 3, 2018

Not Asian food but, it looks real nice.

Bremsstrahlung · Jan 3, 2018

Bluesteel said:
I think value is part of it, but I think as a whole average wages are lower in certain countries for similar positions. I've been doing a bit of reading into Taiwan social/economic issues, and one of the big things that the young people talk about is that the wages they get after graduation is not enough given the prices. You may not be making magnitudes less than a similar position in the US, but chances are it is less. A more "extreme" example is when we went to Indonesia, my friends and I looked at some of the salaries for some skilled positions, and we were shocked how engineers, senior managers make. Of course, in Indonesia that may help you live comfortably and is a good wage compared to the rest of the country, but we felt like it was low and it's not like we're making a ton either.

Overall, it just drove home how much of a luxury and privilege it is to travel.

I've assumed that wages on average are comparatively lower in places like SE Asia, too. Not that I'd know for sure what the minimum/average wages for those countries are, or anything.

I've had diplomat friends who have mentioned that they prefer to be assigned to Europe or the US, because their salary would kinda scale with those countries and thus they'd make more than they would back in Indonesia or, like, other nearby countries.

Knight613 · Jan 3, 2018

Chia Te pineapple cakes is what I buy to take back, mostly because they do other flavors like cranberry and honeydew.

There's always a line there though.

SRG01 · Jan 4, 2018

Pet said:
Looool yeah I brought back like 10 cases of pineapple cake.

Speaking of pineapple cake, what brands are out there in North America? I have to live with EDO and some random T&T Asian supermarket brand up here in Canada...

RedHoodedOwl · Jan 4, 2018

Hey, guys from the East and the Pacific Islands.

Deleted member 907 · Jan 4, 2018

Pineapple cakes were tough to find a few years ago in Boston, but now, all the Asian markets have them. The ones in the light yellow pouches are the best my wife has had.

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