There's some even suggesting that Nintendo is actually the most progressive publisher. Like I'm not even sure how you can argue that?
Hold up I remember seeing that in like high school and thought it was meh. It's considered a masterpiece?
I'm really impressed with it. It looks like Obsidian learned some good lessons from Pillars of Eternity, and gave the standard fantasy story a very interesting twist. Tryranny is also one of the best treatments of villainous PCs I've ever come across. You'd have to prepare to play a villain though; there really isn't a way to play a non-evil character.
You can't underestimate the fanaticism of Nintendo fans. There was a thread about the most eccentric game designers, and someone actually posited Miyamoto!
Personally, this is part of what I don't like about them as a team. Makoto Yuki isn't the end all be all in their lives in spite of how important he's considered to their operations, but they often don't have much going on outside of school or their objective. Though some aspects of writing and characterization in Trails of Cold Steel aren't as great as the Sky trilogy, I did rather like the fact that unlike modern Persona, you can see the other party members do more to go about their own business and not only living their lives/indulging in hobbies, but even hanging out with each other without the lead to facilitate such interactions (students who are NPCs rather than party members existing outside of designated interactions with the lead is also appreciated).
Still haven't played the game, but there had been this theory before its release about how Link is the same protagonist from an earlier game.
It's a throwback to a post in here describing the plight of otakus. So lonely etc.
I really liked playing Sith in SWTOR so I must admit I'm very tempted here. I saw a lets play of Pillars of Eternity and couldn't really get into the lore (actually found it abit confusing) what would be the big differences you think between Pillars and Tyranny?
Oh, I dunno. Maybe most people just like to play games and don't want irl politics to interfere with that...but hey, what do I know?
Yeah most minorities want to just play video games and have fun without those pesky politics like pretending they don't exist, or treating them as sex objects, or harmful steroetypes.
Considering the interview (which I just mentioned an hour or so ago haha) where they said they still don't know where the game fits in the timeline... I'm calling horseshit on that theory, as well. :P
Satire? Or just dumb OPINION?
Which aspect would you like to criticize? I've never played it.
More like 'maybe people just like to play games that support or don't challenge their own politics, and yet view the slightest mention of other people's politics as the only ones in play or a threat to the status quo when theirs have underpinned media for decades'.
By most people they were really saying the content majority.
Mass Effect and Dragon Age have both got better at that as well though, like companions can end up in relationships between themselves if you don't romance them ( Garrus and Tali in ME3, Dorian and Iron Bull in DAI, as well as other little hook ups in other games - unfortunately there's a lot of fans who complain about these, and it's both women and men) and companions are more able to disagree with your actions and go against you/ leave compared to what it used to be, so at least there's progress! The companions that always go along with you and praise you cus you're "oh so wonderful" always annoyed me so I'm glad it's moving away from that, but I'll be honest that a lot of fans complain or don't like companions that don't agree with you. Hopefully over time it's more accepted :)
While I can't tell you what to do, I will suggest that you should make more threads. Despite some peoples displeasure at people wanting to analyze video games on a deeper level because introspection makes people feel bad about themselves and the things they like, the conversations that lead to such introspection are very necessary.
...Everything has politics in it
Oh dear. First of all, I'm black. Whether you guys choose to believe that is up to you. I've been playing games since i was a kid and never once did i feel the need to project myself onto my character so much that I'd feel like I'm in their shoes. I play Pokémon alot too and I sometimes or rather most times choose to play as a girl, because why the fuck not. Anyway y'all are free to do whatever you want I'm not attacking anyone here, just stating my OPINION. :)
You can still be a POC and still make arguments for the benefit of the cis white male status quo. Even if you're unaware. Anyway, your gaming habits and general indifference don't outweigh the negative impact of propagating negative stereotypes in mass media.
It's not that, they make Link the centre of everything. Skyward Sword, he's the chosen one with the super-rare red bird, for example. They're just amateur writers, really. Though I'm torn on whether they really should allocate more resources to it. :-/
Fine. By most people you mean the content majority. Et voilà.
I haven't played Pillars, so I'm going off the assumption that it's built like Baldur's Gate. Unlike Bioware's evil choices where you just do terrible things for no particular reason (other than maximizing your evil gauge), Tyranny is about picking between a bunch of choices like killing an enemy or enslaving him. There aren't any good/evil gauges per se. Instead, there are attitude gauges for everything: friendly factions, friendly leaders, enemy factions, enemy leaders, and followers. Each of these has a positive gauge, and a negative one. Both can be raised simultaneously, and reaching break points on both can provide benefits.
You don't have to do it everyday, but to occasionally bring up the issue when you are mentally prepared to deal with people at your own pace is fine. I can't make you do anything, but I ask that you don't let these people dissuade you from bringing this up, because believe me as someone who spent their ... well younger formative years on the net. ( you never... really stopped being formed if you are open to information... and i'm a very young adult ) There are people reading threads like this, and thinking about what they consume.
It's less a question of people not having the same viewpoint, and more that a lot of the people coming in here have no intention of engaging in discussion in the first place. Look at the don'ts in the OP: that's the kind of crap that constantly ends up here.
It's the bitterness seeping through, when you find yourself grinding over the same arguments, in my opinion.
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The eccentric designer in the OP was Yoko Taro, and the other names were people like Suda51 and Swery65. Miyamoto is a boring grandfather compared to those guys!
Typing "OPINION" in all caps doesn't mean your opinion isn't based on incorrect information or false assumptions.
I'm not saying that it doesn't affect other people, I'm just saying not everyone can or will feel the same way about everything. Like I said before, most people play video games to play video games. They don't feel the need to project themselves onto the character their playing, some do some don't. You're allowed to feel however you want about something but when you try shoving your political views unto people who'd barely notice or not even notice at all, and make them feel like if they're not with you they're against you, of course they'd get defensive.
When people actively argue that games shouldn't address politics, yeah, they are literally against me.
Games tell narratives and narratives are political. They present a perspective on how the world is, or should be, or could be. When those perspectives are objectifying, or dismissive, or hurtful of people than people often react
