Why is the Xbox One UI still an absolute mess?

AntiMacro · Dec 30, 2017

If you have trouble like it stalling out and then jumping around, do a hard reset. Hold the power button in for 10 seconds or so, then unplug it for 15-30 seconds, plug it back in and go through the longer reboot.

The rest of it is either wrong, like the capture stuff, or just being unfamiliar with it. There's really no 'problem' with the UI - it's just different from the PS4, which seems like a real problem for people who are used to it. It's a different piece of hardware, it has a different UI...adjust to it.

I swear to Christ some of you must get in your car and just scream 'WHY ISN'T THIS A CROSSBAR UI? WTF!!!!'

DJ Meida said:
It's ok. My main gripe is that the games and apps section should really be the focus of the front end.

Its gotten better but it's no where close to the 360

Click down once and hit A - you're in the dedicated games and apps section. How is that not focused enough? The last game/app you used will be highlighted when you start, with a giant splash screen of it on the screen.

Wamb0wneD · Dec 30, 2017

Strange how it seems to have varying speeds for people.

Falchion said:
I love it, best console OS by far.

Yeah no. Did you ever have a Switch in your hand? That is just clean, snappy and fast.

Van Bur3n · Dec 30, 2017

nihilence said:
I like the ui.
The month that I used the ps4 with the baby, it felt clunky. Never quite fit used to it. Different things for different players?

The recent player might not have been found due to their privacy settings.

I thought about that as well. But I had played a lot of players before I met that guy that didn't show up either. Last recent players met showed it was 17 hours ago, not the players I had played with minutes ago. Seems odd for that many people to have their settings set to that, unless its the default settings that most probably don't adjust. And I waited for some time for it to update because I know its a while to update.

headspawn · Dec 30, 2017

The only point I'll give here is Upload Studio, that app is absolute trash and has been for a very long time. Also takes forever to open, edit, render, upload etc etc... feature-wise it's lacking and somehow makes quality much worse. They need to do better there.

I can't agree on the rest though.

Falchion · Dec 30, 2017

Wamb0wneD said:
ah no. Did you ever have a Switch in your hand? That is just clean, snappy and fast.

My Switch can't even party chat without using a smartphone and if I want to find out exactly how long I've played a game, I need to consult a parental controls app.

Van Bur3n · Dec 30, 2017

AntiMacro said:
If you have trouble like it stalling out and then jumping around, do a hard reset. Hold the power button in for 10 seconds or so, then unplug it for 15-30 seconds, plug it back in and go through the longer reboot.

The rest of it is either wrong, like the capture stuff, or just being unfamiliar with it. There's really no 'problem' with the UI - it's just different from the PS4, which seems like a real problem for people who are used to it. It's a different piece of hardware, it has a different UI...adjust to it.

I swear to Christ some of you must get in your car and just scream 'WHY ISN'T THIS A CROSSBAR UI? WTF!!!!'

I've had the Xbox One since 2014. Only just got the PS4 a year ago. I think I'm well adjusted to it. Again, I've made note of not being aware of certain features regarding capturing gameplay footage. But as I said, I usually don't set it to record for an hour in anticipation of some moment in gameplay, I usually only record with the "Record That" function, which only has a maximum duration of 5 minutes, from what I'm looking at right now in Preferences > Broadcast & Capture. And come on, Upload Studio is bad. Do not deny me this opinion.

But technically, my complaint regarding the 5 minute limit on recording after the fact, is still quite valid.

And perhaps I do yell at my car. Maybe, maybe not...

Nosgotham · Dec 30, 2017

It's crap. And just when you get used to its crappy layout, they roll out a new crappy Lay out.

I honestly order the blades of old Xbox 360

Wamb0wneD · Dec 30, 2017

Falchion said:
My Switch can't even party chat without using a smartphone.

I know. The OS is still the fastest and cleanest of them. There is nothing you can't find in a matter of seconds. You probably were talking about the number of functionalities as well while I wasn't. Obviously it will get slower with more things getting added over time and maybe even more cluttered (though I don't believe that.)

and it helps that there aren't many games for now where party chat is required lol

For now it's just wonderful to boot up your system in 2 seconds and starting games in the same amount of time. PS4 for example is a slog compared to that.

Crayon · Dec 30, 2017

The switch os does precisely dick but it does it so well.

SK4TE · Dec 30, 2017

Wamb0wneD said:
Strange how it seems to have varying speeds for people.

Yeah no. Did you ever have a Switch in your hand? That is just clean, snappy and fast.

The switch really doesn't do anything to be fair. No messaging, no party's, no achievements, no media.

Deleted member 249 · Dec 30, 2017

Yeah, I'm having severe issues with the OS, though I've gotten a better hang og it in the day that I have owned the system. Pinning is a pretty powerful tool, but I have no idea why tings are as slow as they are.

DrMario · Dec 30, 2017

I've always felt like anyone defending the Xbox UI or saying they've never experienced glitches are either liars or haven't actually owned one (or are the luckiest gamers in all the land). I've had 3 xb1s and they've all had serious UI issues, from running slow the randomly glitching out, to many apps just feeezing and not working. I even had to return a different Xbox one s with a faulty Blu-ray app that would squish the image to 1/4 of my screen even despite a factory reset.

There's some random quirks and serious quality control issues on this thing.

Wamb0wneD · Dec 30, 2017

SK4TE said:
The switch really doesn't do anything to be fair. No messaging, no party's, no achievements, no media.

Well yeah there being less features surely helps it being as clean as it possible gets. Doesn't it have Hulu by now though ? And I really don't get why people want these things on their console so badly anyway when they already have 3 devices in their home having them. It's a platform for gaming and it's really fast for that.
No messaging is the only one I would call an actual detriment, though at least I don't get spammed by bots like on PS4 lol.

GUNDAM STARDUST · Dec 30, 2017

If your OS is running slow something is wrong. Mine is fast.

SK4TE · Dec 30, 2017

Wamb0wneD said:
Well yeah there being less features surely helps it being as clean as it possible gets. Doesn't it have Hulu by now though ? And I really don't get why people want these things on their console so badly anyway when they already have 3 devices in their home having them. It's a platform for gaming and it's really fast for that.
No messaging is the only one I would call an actual detriment, though at least I don't get spammed by bots like on PS4 lol.

Well Netflix on Switch would be great with the offline download feature it has these days.

Deleted member 249 · Dec 30, 2017

The Switch does exactly what a console OS should do- it lets me get into my game within about a second. I'll take that over everything else.

Wamb0wneD · Dec 30, 2017

SK4TE said:
Well Netflix on Switch would be great with the offline download feature it has these days.

Oh I would have nothing against that. And I'd be interested in how much slower the OS will get with Netflix and VC getting a thing. But that isn't a priority for me. That's actual gaming.

Phantom Thief said:
The Switch does exactly what a console OS should do- it lets me get into my game within about a second. I'll take that over everything else.

Exactly.

headspawn · Dec 30, 2017

Wamb0wneD said:
Strange how it seems to have varying speeds for people.

Yeah no. Did you ever have a Switch in your hand? That is just clean, snappy and fast.

Switch doesn't have enough features or functionality to really compare it 1:1.

I mean, when you have to put down your control and grab a cellphone to do something I could do on another console with a couple button presses or a voice command... I dunno.

Novocaine · Dec 30, 2017

Wamb0wneD said:
Strange how it seems to have varying speeds for people.

Yeah no. Did you ever have a Switch in your hand? That is just clean, snappy and fast.

Eh.

Now that I'm starting to amass more games on my Switch it's getting annoying having a single column of games. The PS4 has the same problem but at least you can make folders.

I can't move content from the system to the SD card.

Still uses friend codes.

Play activity feed is essentially useless and light years behind XBO stat tracking.

Party chat?

Messaging?

Sure it's snappy. I like the quick menu when you hold home down to adjust brightness etc but overall the UI is incredibly barebones.

Deleted member 4262 · Dec 30, 2017

Mine isn't slow but boy do I hate using it. Feels like a confusing mess to me. I much prefer Switch and PS4 UI design.

berryman69 · Dec 30, 2017

NEE HEE HEE said:
Switch UI is the best UI. Minimalist af.

It does nothing? The PS4 UI is by far the most cohesive and mature UI in gaming. By a landslide. The Switch is like something from 2004 lol. You all are tripping. No shit it is minimalist AF. There is hardly anything there.

Xbox has gotten better, but when I had a One I didn't really care for it.

berryman69 · Dec 30, 2017

Wamb0wneD said:
Oh I would have nothing against that. And I'd be interested in how much slower the OS will get with Netflix and VC getting a thing. But that isn't a priority for me. That's actual gaming.

Exactly.

That's weird, because I get into games within one second on the PS4 too, but I suspect some Switch fans don't actually have another system.

And you'll also take a barebones, nearly useless UI because you get into games at the same speed as any other random UI? What it is you are having trouble with on any other system? PS4 is basically one button press and game starts. It's not any worse or better than the Switch lol. Yet it has 10x the features.

Equanimity · Dec 30, 2017

Van Bur3n said:
EDIT: These experiences are based off of my use of the original Xbox One. I don't know if other versions are any better.

It's the same. I have used the OG and One X with the latest update, didn't notice anything different between the two machines.

Wamb0wneD said:
Yeah no. Did you ever have a Switch in your hand? That is just clean, snappy and fast.

Switch OS in its current form is the worst in comparison.

Wamb0wneD · Dec 30, 2017

Damn I really dind't want to derail this thread. I'll just stop responding after this post.

headspawn said:
Switch doesn't have enough features or functionality to really compare it 1:1.

I mean, when you have to put down your control and grab a cellphone to do something I could do on another console with a couple button presses or a voice command... I dunno.

I really doubt that will be their solution going forward. And I simply never used that thing, don't have the app installed. I got discord for that.

Novocaine said:
Eh.

Now that I'm starting to amass more games on my Switch it's getting annoying having a single column of games. The PS4 has the same problem but at least you can make folders.

I can't move content from the system to the SD card.

Still uses friend codes.

Play activity feed is essentially useless and light years behind XBO stat tracking.

Party chat?

Messaging?

Sure it's snappy. I like the quick menu when you hold home down to adjust brightness etc but overall the UI is incredibly barebones.

I think after a certain point it becomes more than one column. It's strange though they didn't let you sort it how you want like on 3DS.

You're right about the content moving. I bet that's still coming.

I added one friend through that. Rest I got through playing Splatoon. There are other ways than friendcodes by now.

Yeah I also don't get why they went with that. 3DS activity log was fine.

I got discord for party chat but sure.

Messaging is something I miss but what I don't miss is getting messages from bots.

It being barebones doesn't nessecarily have to be a detriment though. The OS' main job is to play games first and foremost and it does a really really good job at that.

I'd really like to not derail this any further though. Sorry for that OP.

berryman69 said:
That's weird, because I get into games within one second on the PS4 too, but I suspect some Switch fans don't actually have another system.

And you'll also take a barebones, nearly useless UI because you get into games at the same speed as any other random UI? What it is you are having trouble with on any other system? PS4 is basically one button press and game starts. It's not any worse or better than the Switch lol. Yet it has 10x the features.

I do own a PS4. Nice arguments you have there man. I won't answer any of this any more because that's not what the thread is about. Like at all.

Railgun · Dec 30, 2017

This thread would have made a lot of sense years ago, hell I kept my Xbox One in a box out back for a year because it was so slow. These days though it's fast and the UI is great. I feel a lot of people won't be happy with it till Microsoft makes an exact copy of the PS4 UI people use more often.

Some of the complaints like trimming and editing video are very warranted though, but they're improving GameDVR editing in a future update thankfully. Which is the best thing about Xbox One's OS, it's so incredibly feature rich and I also think that's its biggest problem. It has so many features and it can be difficult to present those to a newcomer without overwhelming them.

Deleted member 249 · Dec 30, 2017

berryman69 said:
That's weird, because I get into games within one second on the PS4 too, but I suspect some Switch fans don't actually have another system.

See, I was going to actually respond to your post, but I saw this, and now I'm like, yeah, fuck this. You're not interested in a discussion, you're interested in fanboying. Have at it, more power to you.

Andrew Lucas · Dec 30, 2017

Are we still stuck elsewhere in 2014...? Hyperbolic thread as usual. It's faster than the PS4's for ages by now.

Deleted member 249 · Dec 30, 2017

Andrew Lucas said:
Are we still stuck elsewhere in 2014...? Hyperbolic thread as usual. It's faster than the PS4's for ages by now.

My Xbox One S is brand new, my PS4 is four years old. The Xbox One S is not faster than the PS4.

SteveWinwood · Dec 30, 2017

Console ui has always sucked (and it's not like it's any better on portables or the PC). The only good one was the gamecube.

Deleted member 249 · Dec 30, 2017

SteveWinwood said:
Console ui has always sucked (and it's not like it's any better on portables or the PC). The only good one was the gamecube.

Switch UI is really good because it knows to get out of your way. Really barebones, I will give it that.
PS4 UI is... not the best, but it's organized logically, and on the whole things don't take too long to get done.
Xbox One UI so far feels like a culture shock, but I've been fiddling around with it and I am beginning to come to terms with it, so we'll see where I land with respect to it.

Andrew Lucas · Dec 30, 2017

Phantom Thief said:
My Xbox One S is brand new, my PS4 is four years old. The Xbox One S is not faster than the PS4.

Then you should treat them better, because the Xbox has been faster since 2015 with the OS revamp,

and the newest one is even better, so yeah, it's faster indeed.

Deleted member 249 · Dec 30, 2017

Andrew Lucas said:
Then you should treat them better, because the Xbox has been faster since 2015 with the OS revamp,

and the newest one is even better, so yeah, it's fast indeed.

How can I treat a brand new Xbox better?

Apa504 · Dec 30, 2017

Yeah the UI of the ONE is an intuitive mess for me, and I had had one for 2 years now, and that's after the UI of the 360, the best UI of a console, IMO.

Tribal24 · Dec 30, 2017

Yeah xbox one ui is very hit and miss , the only thing I liked was the pinning. Everything just felt very slow to do compared to the PS4. Switch is deifnately snappy but it lacks features so it's not even a contest. PS4 is deifnately the fastest but can use improvements. It would go Like this for me PS4>Xone>Switch and switch last just because it lacks features.

Zoid · Dec 30, 2017

I just traded in my OG XB1 for an X yesterday. The X feels better and faster overall but it's still clunky, I can still feel a tiny delay when navigating the menus and I've had to press buttons twice a few times. I was really bummed when I sold my PS4 and got a Pro a few weeks ago only to find out the menus on that are actually worse than the base model. I don't understand how these mid-gen upgrades could drop the ball at the OS level.

Remark · Dec 30, 2017

I like it a lot. Once you get used to it I would say its the best UI for multiplayer experiences.

Ryouji Gunblade · Dec 30, 2017

I preferred the previous UI to the current one.

And I preferred the middle 360 era one to that.

Vinc · Dec 30, 2017

The UI is a lot better these days but is super dependent on internet speed. The fact that input response can lag is truly unforgivable to me in a console UI.

DirtyLarry · Dec 30, 2017

As others have mentioned, no real speed problems on my end.
With that said, it is a disaster of a UI in my humble opinion.

RedRum · Dec 30, 2017

I thought the UI was terrible when it was in preview, but I like it now. Only thing I can agree with you OP on was the difficulty at finding Recent Players. Other than that, it's fine. Pins work and it is the fastest UI that's been released.

Deleted member 9135 · Dec 30, 2017

So, these topics come up periodically. Your UI performance is contingent on which Xbl servers you're connected to so YMMV. Mine is supremely fast and I've demonstrated as Such on old site but can't find my bid atm. But bottom line, performance is contingent on servers you're connected to.

Patrick S. · Dec 30, 2017

It would be cool if the OS were like the menus in GT Sport, where you can jump from menu item to menu item, as you would expect, but can also freely move a mouse pointer around using the analogue stick. It's probably nothing we'll ever see on a console, because that feature would probably accentuate the "consoles are just PCs with outdated tech" perception, and drive some people into realizing that what they really want is a PC, and not a console.

Era of not Yakuza · Dec 30, 2017

Some answers are "just buy the new premium console, stop complaining". WTF

ethomaz · Dec 30, 2017

Andrew Lucas said:
Then you should treat them better, because the Xbox has been faster since 2015 with the OS revamp,

and the newest one is even better, so yeah, it's faster indeed.

If I remember correctly this test was proved false... the PS4 seconds are ridiculous high compared with the actual speed at least.

Or do you really believe it takes 17 seconds to sent a mensagem on PS4 since release lol

berryman69 · Dec 30, 2017

Andrew Lucas said:
Then you should treat them better, because the Xbox has been faster since 2015 with the OS revamp,

and the newest one is even better, so yeah, it's faster indeed.

This is INCREDIBLY dated and outright false, with absolutely no information regarding how these tests were performed. It absolutely does not take 17 seconds to send a message on PS4 LOL.

I mean how long are you allowing to type the word Hello? If you aren't even counting that a message can be sent in under ten seconds on PS4 easy peasy.

headspawn · Dec 30, 2017

The era of Luigi said:
Some answers are "just buy the new premium console, stop complaining". WTF

Where?

Belmont · Dec 30, 2017

I only have a PS4 myself, but I was talking with my cousin the other night who has a XBO and he was complaining how bad the UI was. He's not a super hardcore gamer so I was sort of surprised it was bad enough a more casual gamer would complain. Just my anecdotal experience.

I like the PS4 UI well enough. It can still hang sometimes when bringing up the list of video apps or the profile page for a game. PS store is way better than it was on PS3 though.

ethomaz · Dec 30, 2017

Somewhatgroovy said:
So, these topics come up periodically. Your UI performance is contingent on which Xbl servers you're connected to so YMMV. Mine is supremely fast and I've demonstrated as Such on old site but can't find my bid atm. But bottom line, performance is contingent on servers you're connected to.

That is why I believe a lot of users has slow response...

But I can't blame users complain because it is not their fault at all... a good UI can't rely too much in server response time.

Crayon · Dec 30, 2017

I like bpm better than ps4 or switch dash but I really like the color blue so...

True Prophecy · Dec 30, 2017

DirtyLarry said:
As others have mentioned, no real speed problems on my end.
With that said, it is a disaster of a UI in my humble opinion.

I love when people make sweeping statements with no real answers to why they believe it to be the case. Reminds me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR666oZk87Y

Edit: Not picking on you per say just seems to be a lot of 'it sucks imo' without saying whats hard about it.

Why is the Xbox One UI still an absolute mess?

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