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Van Bur3n

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
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You should read this quote of one of my post that goes into more detail as to what I've been going through and addresses some of the arguments made against my complaints. It includes video and screenshots as evidence.

I've been reading most posts in here and I should thank those who gave feedback on how to improve my experience. I couple of things I'm going to address from those who made assumptions without reading what I've already said:

1. I've owned an Xbox One for 3 years. I'm not some new guy who just bought an X for Christmas. I'm not some guy who is used to the PlayStation 4 dashboard, I'm not some guy wanting Xbox to be more like PlayStation. I only just got a PS4 last year. I consider myself quite familiar with the Xbox One system.

2. I do not have any significant issue with the UI design itself. If you read my OP, none of the issues stated were in regards to its design. I said in another posts that I am actually quick to adapt to every new iteration of the Xbox's UI. This was no different. The design could always be better, but it's not what's driving me crazy. I realize the title of the thread is pretty general and I welcomed everyone else to share their opinion on the Xbox UI as a whole, but I would have thought reading the OP was enough to realize what my issues were. Unless you're directly quoting someone else, I assume posts are responding to me, not speaking generally.


With that out of the way, I can update y'all on my current experience. I did the hard reset as suggested and the UI is faster now. If you want to see what I was dealing with before, I have a video to show. My internet is 29mbps download, 6mbps upload. I'm not a gizmo in this area, so I'm not sure if that's the information needed to determine whether my internet is good or not. From what I gathered, that's in the 'good, not great' area.

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The clicking you hear in the background is me pressing the d-pad trying to navigate the menus. I was not exaggerating how bad it was.

As for the other issues, I stated, I believe a few are still valid. My recent players list when I checked still only had a handful of players that did not match the amount of people I had played. Here is an image. Image was taken earlier today. xSugarMonkeyx I remember vividly playing with on Friday (I cannot forget such a bad player). I played For Honor both that Friday and Saturday and this is all the recent players list has to show. The point has already been brought up that some player's privacy settings are preventing them from showing up on recent players. I thought about this myself, but I played with a lot of people in the past two days. Do only these few people have their settings set the public, which is the default setting? Do that many people have their settings set to private? I would no longer consider this complaint valid since there are too many unknowns. If there is one thing they can fix however with recent players, it's having them placed in earliest to latest in order. It's completely scattered in its current state.

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However, I would consider my recording complaint quite valid. Again, my initial complaint was that the "Record That" feature could only record up to 5 minutes of what happened after the fact. The set to capture is only done before anything actually happens, as if I am anticipating something to happen. Most of the time, I am recording my gameplay using the later, as I only record something when it actually happens, not keep it set to recording waiting for something to happen. Also, I just checked and I can only set to capture for 10 minutes, not the 1 hour shown in the image on the first page. I've looked through the Broadcast and Capture settings and they're are not options to adjust the set to capture from what I can see. Here is a screenshot I took for proof. Overall, my complaint still stands. I can only record 5 minutes of gameplay after the fact, and a lot of the time it doesn't even capture the full 5 minutes.

This isn't exactly a complaint with the UI, but when I made the complaint it went hand in hand with the terrible Upload Studios complaint, which is part of the Xbox UI.

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To everyone who actually chose to read what I had to say and gave good feedback, thank you. You solved some of my problems. I hope you read this post as well to further understand what I've been going through. So many people are just doing drive-by posts who aren't reading for further context. This has definitely given me a new perspective on what it's like to be the OP.


I know the Xbox One UI is known for being slow since forever (that shouldn't be the case, but it sadly is) but I've hit peak frustration and it's seemingly now more slow than ever. So many times of spamming the living hell out of the d-pads and bumpers to get to where I want to go and the length of time I have to wait is absurd. It's taking more than 10 seconds before it finally spazzes out of its frozen state and fly over to some other page I didn't want to go to and then it takes another 5 seconds to respond when I'm trying to go backwards to where I need to go. It's a nightmare.

And the slow part is not even the end of it, but everything else just doesn't work well at all either. I was trying to find this player I had played recently with because we were having a grand ole time in For Honor and when I checked the Recent Players list it showed players from the past all the way back to 17 hours ago, 1 day ago, 2 days ago, a week ago, 6 weeks ago, but not RECENT PLAYERS. Players I recently met minutes ago. I waited and waited, and they never appeared. Why are you showing me players from over a month ago? That is not relevant information! I don't need to find someone from a month ago! So long cool player I had met. I guess we will never be friends.

It gets worse. I'm also someone who likes to record clips of my gameplay. I just do. I like recording me an intense boss fight in Dark Souls and looking back on it and thinking how great it was. But even the video editing application for the Xbox, Upload, is not that good either. Trimming videos can sometimes lead to some random stuttering when a video is cut to start or end at a certain point and it actually appears in the final upload. Not to mention the inconveniences in recording clips in the first place in that I have to drag the stick all the way to where I want to trim a clip, rather than navigating it through multiples of seconds like on PlayStation precisely. Also, why can the Xbox only record up to 5 minutes of gameplay? I can record up to 15 minutes on the PlayStation. 5 minutes is hardly enough time to record the harder boss fights in Dark Souls. And why is it when I select record the last 5 minutes, it only ends up recording 4 or even 3 and a half minutes? Why, oh why?

All of these issues I am facing at a constant rate are starting to build up and become detrimental to my user experience with this damn thing. Issues that have persisted for years. Years. So many redesigns and reworks of the Xbox One UI and with every one its still terrible. It's a constant pattern of terribleness. I can't imagine what the guinea pig users in their beta program go through.

I know the rest of you experience the painfully slow UI, I don't need you to answer that question, but why is it still happening? Why do these issues persist? Does anyone else experience them? Are you experiencing something terrible as well that I am lucky enough not to experience?

EDIT: These experiences are based off of my use of the original Xbox One. I don't know if other versions are any better.
 
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BlandrewYT

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Nov 27, 2017
342
It's just cluttered trash for me. Bought one for my dad this Christmas and set it up for him, and HOLY CRAP, I feel like the average casual gamer would get so lost in there lol.
 

Bryo4321

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Nov 20, 2017
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It does some things right. Very easy account management and you can power off controllers in a flash. Little things I've gotten used to that take more menu navigation on ps4. Otherwise yeah it's still a little cluttered and has a steeper learning curve that it needs.
 

Syriel

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Dec 13, 2017
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Also, why can the Xbox only record up to 5 minutes of gameplay? I can record up to 15 minutes on the PlayStation. 5 minutes is hardly enough time to record the harder boss fights in Dark Souls. And why is it when I select record the last 5 minutes, it only ends up recording 4 or even 3 and a half minutes? Why, oh why?

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catvonpee

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Oct 29, 2017
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It seems pretty fast for me on my XB1X. Sometimes the system resume where you start up from where you left off without saving is a little wonky. But otherwise I think the Xbox UI is my favorite out of the big 3.
 

pswii60

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Oct 27, 2017
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The Milky Way
I agree it's far too slow, I'm baffled why this is still the case, other than perhaps highly limited memory and CPU allocation.

One thing I do prefer on X over PS4 however, is the grid of games in My Apps, which I much prefer to the ridiculous horizontal line(s) of games on PS4, even taking folders in to account. I also like the way you can pin the ResetEra community to your home screen to quickly view updates. So it's not all bad, but needs a lot of work to feel as slick as the PS4 UI for sure.
 

Bugalugs214

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Nov 26, 2017
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The user was warned for this post. Don’t imply a fellow user’s genuine complaints are an attempt at “spreading false news”. Argue in good faith.
Why do people say oh its so hard to capture?@@!!!!
Its literally an option under take screenshot to adjust the length of time from that point on.
Its strange how some people seem desperate to spread false info.
 
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Van Bur3n

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Oct 27, 2017
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It does some things right. Very easy account management and you can power off controllers in a flash. Little things I've gotten used to that take more menu navigation on ps4. Otherwise yeah it's still a little cluttered and has a steeper learning curve that it needs.

I still don't know to navigation anything on the PlayStation that involves interacting with another user. I attempted to invite players to play some Killing Floor 2 one time and I couldn't for the life of me figure it out.

Why do people say oh its so hard to capture?@@!!!!
Its literally an option under take screenshot to adjust the length of time from that point on.
Its strange how some people seem desperate to spread false news.

That's the option I select when recording my clip. Again, usually when selecting an amount of time to record after the fact, I've seen it able to record up to 5.

I wouldn't say I'm desperate to do anything, more so just venting my never ending frustration with the console. And fake news? Really?
 
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Warrk

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Nov 8, 2017
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I'm not too concerned about the speed of the UI, but I do have to say that I've found PlayStation UIs more intuitive than Xbox UIs. I've spent way more time flipping around looking for things on the 360 and One than on the PS3 or PS4.
 

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Nov 12, 2017
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I have had acceptable performance, server and connection issues however were frequent. That meant I had to refresh my UI in hopes it would function again. Playing Halo was a pain because different services would be messed up for all of us.
 

Crayon

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Oct 26, 2017
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Some people say a good os will try to stay out of the way so you don't even notice it's there. And some people think an os should be a magical connected integrated ecosystem experience.
 

Merrill

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's definitely the worst ui design of all time.

I really don't even understand how someone came up with it. It's just a mess, clumsy, not intuitive at all.

Somebody really sucks ass at design.
 

danlher

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Nov 1, 2017
511
To me, X's UI is really fast but I find it very unintuitive, I liked more the previous iteration. I think MS does a good thing trying new things, but they sometimes don't get everything right.

I find the Pro's UI awful, but I like the simplistic feel of it and that you can create folders.
 
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Van Bur3n

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Oct 27, 2017
26,089
To me, X's UI is really fast but I find it very unintuitive, I liked more the previous iteration. I think MS does a good thing trying new things, but they sometimes don't get everything right.

I find the Pro's UI awful, but I like the simplistic feel of it and that you can create folders.

I find myself able to adjust quickly to the constant changes in the different iterations of the Xbone's UI, even though it's noticeable how much could have been bettered. I'm on the original Xbox One, so maybe that may be part of the problem, I don't know.

In terms of both consoles, I used to think they were equal in both their pros and cons, but recently I've come to really dislike the Xbox's UI on account of the issues I've been facing. But damn, the PlayStation store is horrid. I can say that much.
 

Prine

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Oct 25, 2017
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This has not been an issue since like Oct. Its smooth and responsive.

On X is super fast, speed isnt a valid complaint any more.
 

Dog

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Oct 25, 2017
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It... isn't?

It's actually faster and more streamlined than PS4's these days. And I love my pro.

Upload Studio is fucking ass tho, give you that.
 

shanafan

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Oct 25, 2017
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I love it.

It's better than PS4 by leaps and bounds. Having a functional search on Xbox is much better than whatever search engine Sony uses.
 

Lyrick

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Oct 25, 2017
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I picked one up a few weeks ago, and everything outside of start up is by far faster than my PS4.

There's still a handful of features I haven't been able to hunt down yet though (like continue downloading while not in use), but I'm not sure why people are complaining about the old OS stuff when the new stuff is readily available.
 

Prine

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Oct 25, 2017
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Still get taken aback with MS voice chat quality, its literally better then anything ive used.
 
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Van Bur3n

Van Bur3n

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Oct 27, 2017
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This has not been an issue since like Oct. Its smooth and responsive.

On X is super fast, speed isnt a valid complaint any more.

I added into the OP that my experiences are based on the original Xbox One. Considering it's most likely the case that most users still use the normal Xbox over the X, I'd say it's a pretty valid complaint for most people. I suppose it can be seen as part of the upgrade package that is the X.
 

Derrick01

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've given up trying to find anything past my library because they completely overhaul the damn thing every 5 months anyway. Sick of getting used to their messy UIs just to have everything rearranged again and some options hidden under others while throwing new ones out there.
 

Kawngi

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Oct 30, 2017
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Most recent iteration of the UI seems perfectly fine on my X so I don't really get these concerns
 

Zushin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah I agree. I hate how cumbersome it is to navigate stuff like the store and the upload studio. I do like how quick you can shut off the controllers though. But yeah not happy with the Xbox UI after the 360.
 

nihilence

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Oct 25, 2017
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From 'quake area to big OH.
I like the ui.
The month that I used the ps4 with the baby, it felt clunky. Never quite fit used to it. Different things for different players?

The recent player might not have been found due to their privacy settings.
 

Wein Cruz

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Oct 27, 2017
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NXE was so awesome but ever since then MS has been awful with UIs and trying to adopt a metro-like interface for X1 was a huge mistake.
 

bry

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Oct 27, 2017
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I never really understood the complaints about the UI.
The first dashboard was understandable but the ones since then were pretty useable.
I might just be used to it tho i guess
 

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My brother have Xbox One X. Microsoft Store is constantly freezing the console. And that EA Access app is atrocious. Its unusable. X1X can barely run it. Other than that it will sometimes catch a hiccup. When doing other stuff. I dont like the UI.
 

DOATag

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Oct 25, 2017
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Canada, eh?
I have zero problems with the Xbox UI, i think their newest UI is fast, easy to navigate. There are even some nice touches, like subscription content being a tab you can go to so you can easily see what games are available on Gold or Game pass for example which are nice touches.
 

Insanexer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I still think it's a mess. I was all for the new UI update when I first starting messing around with it. Then after a while, it was apparent to me that they just moved around everything without making it more efficient. I much prefer the ps4 UI.
 

FUNKNOWN iXi

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Oct 25, 2017
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I love the UI and think it's far and away the best console UI. The latest UI made it super fast too by eliminating some bloat like Snap, and I don't get the issues with discoverability either; it's so easy to find everything right from the guide etc.
 

SK4TE

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Nov 26, 2017
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I can do anything in a couple of seconds. Start party, send message, invite party to game, record clip, take photo, browse store, play Spotify. Maybe it's just the X speeding things up as I did used to feel laggy in the past.
 

DJ Meida

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Nov 5, 2017
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It's ok. My main gripe is that the games and apps section should really be the focus of the front end.

Its gotten better but it's no where close to the 360
 

Captain of Outer Space

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Oct 28, 2017
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The weird thing is that I had a certain list of bugs/issues with the OS on the original Xbox One leading up to getting an Xbox One X and after upgrading, I had a completely new set of bad bugs/issues with the new, more powerful hardware that was supposed to fix everything.
 

Kasey

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Nov 1, 2017
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All the things you listed are not problems for me at all, and I have the launch model. It's been fast and easy to navigate for me since the 2015 update.

Except the clip editing I guess. It's not terrible, but once finished my clips do have poor quality and framerate.