Why do people say Uncharted 4 is a bad game?

Uncharted never reached the awesomess that was Uncharted 2. Uncharted 4 was good, but nothing amazing. The section where you were driving the car using the winch hook wrapping it around a fucking tree a million times wasn't fun at all, it just kept on dragging. Just wanted that chapter to be over.

I just didn't have that much fun playing it, to be honest. Definitely don't think it's a bad game tho! I had more fun with The Lost Legacy for whatever reason, I enjoyed playing through that a lot more

It's basically the same game with a new surface. I think uncharted needs something new.

In my eyes it's an incredible game. If I had 3 games to show off how far the industry has come this would be one of them. I don't have any issues with the pacing like some people.

Supervlieg said:

It's basically the same game with a new surface. I think uncharted needs something new.

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It definitely needs something new. I'm playing Lost Legacy now and although I feel like it's better than UC4, it still feels very much the same game I've been playing since 2.

It's not bad. It isn't great, either.

It's not a bad game, at all. I just disliked Sam and felt like he was forced into the game. If they pulled a Tess on us and had Sam die early into the game it would have been a much better game in my opinion.

I can't comment on 4 since I have yet to play it, but I can comment on

Realeza said:

The same thing happened to Uncharted 3, and it was equally undeserving of such claims.

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I played Uncharted 3 earlier this year and I didn't have any fun with it. I feel like it kinda had an identity crisis like the first Uncharted game. While Uncharted 2 knew it as a setpiece-ridden adventure game, Uncharted 3 felt like they were trying to mash Gears of War with Indiana Jones. The problem is that the gameplay just wasn't fun. I didn't feel like Marcus Fenix, an unstoppable killing machine reveling in the brutality, and I didn't feel like Indiana Jones, some charming adventure-having guy. Instead, I felt like I was just slogging through, not enjoying any of the shootouts. I look online and see people saying that I need to go for headshots, which I find to be silly. This is supposed to be a fun, silly adventure game, and I'm supposed to be blowing people's heads off? Indiana Jones wouldn't shoot someone in the head. He'd shoot someone in the chest, they'd fall over dead, and that's that. Simple. I remember failing the ending shooting segment in Uncharted 3 because I didn't shoot the guy in the head. Just dumb.

I think its mainly series fatigue. I finished and thought it was great. But i felt towards the end it was a bit of a slog. The constant gunfights started to grate on me hard. I loved the platforming.

Havent even bothered with the spinoff as it looked more of the same. I hope once TLOU2 comes out, ND move away from those games entirely. Maybe playstation 5 will get a new IP from them.

Just my two pence

Macs said:

It's bad because it's a borefest where you climb stuff for like 80% of the game.

And the story couldn't be more average than it is,

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no one dies, nothing really special happens, no big mystery involving pirates is unveiled

and sometimes it is even pretty stupid

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why would Sam lie about the mafia boss when it literally would take 30 secs for Nate to go on the internet and check if it's true?And when Nate finds out he just shrugs it off in 5 seconds and goes on with the adventure. Why would Elena, who had Nate promise he quit the risky life, not only not try to stop him, but actually join him?

I can't understand how people say it's the best UC game, it is missing at least 2 of the things that made UC great: pacing and an interesting story

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It seems like you didn't understand the game at all. It's about nate moving on and of course he shrugs it off since he's been there...

I just finished U4 .I enjoyed it and kept playing to find out how it's going to end.
In hindsight, I had some issues with it that I was only able to discover when reflecting back on the experience. The game had too much climbing / walking/ unecessary sequences of going back to find Sam or the jeep section where I thought the semi-open world hindered the experience because it dragged on for too long. For these reasons I do not think I will be able to replay it again.
However, it's a very polished game. I enjoyed the story mostly . The quiter moments may have affected the gameplay and pacing but it worked well with what they were trying to do with the characters as a closure for the franchise.
I agree with OP. It's not a bad game at all. Sometimes I don't understand the internet but I'm one of those who absolutely loved UC3 only to find that it's disliked by the fandom so maybe I tend to be in the minority with my unpopular opinions .

Loved every second of it, but the pacing of the game can be quite tedious when you replay it. The first playthrough was one hell of an experience though.
Definitely tied for best in the series with Among Thieves.

Wait..There are people that think this game is bad? I enjoyed this game a lot and the ending was perfect.

It's the best Uncharted yet. Don't listen to the haters.

I loved it. Especially with the Pro and a 4K TV

It's my favorite Uncharted game; I enjoyed it much more than U2. Likely in my Top 15 OAT list.

U3 was a borefest though, really unremarkable.

I wouldn't call it a bad game, that would be silly.

I was, however, really disappointed by the story. Hated it so much, which was especially disappointing since it was the last one. The many cool gameplay innovations were eclipsed by long, unskippable sections of exposition. I've replayed every UC game multiple (3+) times, I don't even want to to replay UC4 once.

Lost Legacy should have been Uncharted 4--it was everything I wanted. Too bad there isn't just a little more of it.

I liked it a lot more than 3. My ranking would be 2 > TLL > 4 > 1 > 3.

I think a lot of people's complaints with 4 are overblown, though. Quite exaggerated, if anything. There's a lot of downtime, yeah and the awkward placement of chapter 16 certainly doesn't help any. But I think overall the game works and I enjoy it a lot. I have replayed it on Crushing at least and I do plan to replay it again in the future just like the other games. But maybe I'm not as bothered by some of the quieter moments because I like the characters so much? I don't know. I loved it. It's definitely not the worst Uncharted.

It's not a bad game, but it's also not as good as everyone wants you to believe. This is one of those games where I feel like it got more praise than it should have gotten. And in my opinion this is not a good thing, because the next Uncharted will not be better unless gamer say open what they don't like from the game instead of praising it up to the sky. This way developer will never know how to make things better in the next game.

The gameplay isn't fun. The shooting doesn't feel good. Horrible puzzles (God of War perfected the pacing for puzzles).

It takes an hour before you get real gameplay - which again isn't fun.

There are too many fucking enemies - I just solved an impossible puzzle, why are there 300 bad guys already in the treasure room?

The story sucks - we just found out Drake has a brother 4 games into the franchise?

I think Uncharted needs to take notes from God of War. In the sense that the pacing for those games are fantastic... you get right into the action, there are just enough puzzles to keep you interested, but not too many and the gameplay is tight, refined and enjoyable. Uncharted 4 tried to do too much with the cinematics and forgot that the game should be fun first and foremost.

It's the first Uncharted I actually enjoyed. Focusing the story on Nate's actual human flaws, allowing the game to explore the mundanity of his non-adventuring lifestyle, and not making the plot about some bullshit supernatural twist that isn't a supernatural twist all elevated the game from a standard blockbuster.

I thought the story was kinda lame and the combat wasn't improved enough to keep up with other 3rd person action games.

Guardians said:

It's not a bad game, but it's also not as good as everyone wants you to believe. This is one of those games where I feel like it got more praise than it should have gotten. And in my opinion this is not a good thing, because the next Uncharted will not be better unless gamer say open what they don't like from the game instead of praising it up to the sky. This way developer will never know how to make things better in the next game.

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The next uncharted was The Lost Legacy, and it was way better in important ways for the series. The directors for TLL were definitely paying attention to 4 criticism.

Guardians said:

It's not a bad game, but it's also not as good as everyone wants you to believe.

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If anything its not as bad as everyone wants you to believe.
The game got a lot of praise in reviews, but then it's gotten threads similar to this since release.

For me the gameplay was a slog. I felt like every area was slightly longer than it needed to be. The combat encounters were a chore, but then again I have never liked combat in the Uncharted games.

I stuck with it though because the story and cutscenes are incredible.

Uncharted 4 is my favorite in the whole series followed by Lost Legacy

The parts where you simply explore Nate's house or have the interactions with Sam and Elena are just my favorite.

ProtoSound said:

For me the gameplay was a slog. I felt like every area was slightly longer than it needed to be. The combat encounters were a chore, but then again I have never liked combat in the Uncharted games.

I stuck with it though because the story and cutscenes are incredible.

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Every Uncharted game has this problem, but 4 was especially bad.

It never felt fun to be in a firefight. Every encounter felt like it was too long and I'm just holding on for the next cutscene or action set-piece, because the core gameplay felt unfun. My biggest problem is that it felt like the game design was cheating me. I just solved this puzzle to get into a secret room, so then why do I have to get into a gun fight except that the game designers thought "we hadn't had one of those in a while"? It happened in every fucking chapter.

Calverz said:

I loved the platforming.

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Really ? I always thought the platforming felt way too automated in these games.

I think 4 is the best of the series and I'd argue that any day.

I'd go:

• 4
• Lost Legacy
• 2
• 3
• 1
• Golden Abyss

It's no small wonder why anyone goes out of their way to state their dislike of a game on the basis of content and then continue ad nasuem. I can see (and support) railing out against unethical business practices, game breaking issues, or a company with a history of bullshit policies. But a single game on the merits of it being a game? Cool. You don't like it - post about it once in a pertinent thread and move on. Why do you feel the need to post multiple times and devote threads about disliking it?

I feel like acting cynical and being overtly critial makes people feel smart, and for some reason they find value in being contrarian--often just for the sake of it. But picking out an aspect or two of a game that doesn't 100% work while ignoring all the good and labeling a game "bad" isn't reasoned criticism, it's an exercise in attention grabbing.

You can not like a game, it can not gel with you're personal tastes, but on the net we gotta be careful how go about saying it. Stumbling into a tread about Uncharted 4, Horizon, or Breath of the Wild and dropping a hot take about how, actually, everyone got it wrong and, actually, these critically acclaimed games are indeed very bad isn't insightful or helpful. Talking about what works and what doesn't is always important, but when you only want to use the latter to form your thoughts it's really transparent tbh. AAA games are rarely bad these days, chill out.

It's my favorite Uncharted game, but I just thought Chapters 8 and 9 were REALLY boring. So yeah, other than that, the game was amazing.

I just beat it yesterday. The best thing about the game was the water + combat levels, jumping out of the water, climbing the wall, sniping a few guys and diving back in again is super fun.

This is what made the ship yard level in Uncharted 3 so great IMO. But yea this series needs a long rest and a reboot

pacing issues being the biggest for me. Honestly it was such a big issue for me that I couldn't finish Uncharted 4. I believe I got to chapter 14 or 15 before I called it quits.

It's one of those games that started out great and just got progressively worse in my opinion.

Bad pacing and lack of variety for combat. If it wasn't uncharted in the name id probably give it a 7/10

I've not heard people saying this either!

Although I did think there was too much walking and talking at points, but the banter is part of the series.

I'm not a huge fan of the series, I think they're good games but not great, and thought 4 was as pretty much the same standard as the others.

they finally designed one of the GOAT TPS combat systems for Uncharted 4 yet mix it with terrible pacing and not as many combat scenarios

I don't think anyone ever said that it's a BAD GAME or anything like that.

I didn't like it that much however, i'm fine with a less shooting-focused game but i wish they put actual, engaging gameplay instead of all that brainless faux platforming and climbing.

Naughty Dog managed to accomplish a way more balanced game with The Last of Us, that's for sure.

RennerSage said:

they finally designed one of the GOAT TPS combat systems for Uncharted 4 yet mix it with terrible pacing and not as many combat scenarios

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Yep. This is actually why I'm really excited to play Lost Legacy at some point, mostly because it's a shorter experience with the same TPS combat. I hear the pacing issues in 4 aren't really present in Lost Legacy either, but I guess that's something I will find out myself soon.

plus I feel like we can all agree that the Sam retcon is one of the most pointless retcons in gaming history

Coi said:

It's not that good. Not a BAD game, just regular.

- Repetitive combat
- Repetitive, dumb and boring climbing
- Empty open areas
- Overall it's not an interesting game, for me it's like a walking simulator with boring narrative and combat. I've finished it, enjoyed the graphics and the HDR but a really forgettable experience.

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Sounds like a bad game to me.

anthraxus said:

Really ? I always thought the platforming felt way too automated in these games.

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Yea i think ur right. But honestly i got so sick of the gunfights i felt some relief when faced with a platforming segment. Thats probably why.

Because they were never going to top UC2 imo. They just can't, they tried twice now but nothing is touching that. I mean sure yeah the graphics are better but...

I found the new tomb raider better than UC4, That doesn't mean UC4 Is bad, it's like one of the first responses said, somewhere in the middle.

I'm more intrigued than ever to play through Lost Legacy and UC4. I hated UC2, but enjoyed TLoU so this will be fun.

Usually when you say "Why do people" it insinuates it's a majority or a significant amount. I'd say it's very likely that isn't the case here. So are you griping at a minority, or occasional remark or rebuttle by someone who said they didn't enjoy it? This thread is way too long, with way too many responses for that OP is asking. The answer is some people have different opinions. If someone is saying straight out that it's just a terrible game, then it's a very strong opinion and maybe something that has additional motivations for their reaction. But best you just go, "ok" and move on with your life.

If you want to talk on specific points of contention instead of broad sweeping generalizations that's fine. But this thread is as asinine as those hyperbolic opinions.

I think uncharted 4 is one of my favourite games of all time. In my mind if I was to recommend a game to someone who doesn't know video games very well, I'd recommend uncharted 4.

It's far from bad, but it does get boring. There's far too much walking around while listening to the characters talk, and the same is true of the climbing. It's a beautiful game, though, and has some really good moments...it just doesn't come together like 1 and 2.

Lost Legacy was better.

It wasn't a bad game but was far from the best thing since sliced bread. It was a decent enough game though in terms of what it was trying to achieve, but could have done with losing the first 7 chapters, trimming down the cutscenes, allowing more (or any) exploration and offering more replay-ability.

I also find the combat in all the Uncharted games incredibly unsatisfying with the bullet sponge enemies, but the polish in other areas allows me to somewhat forgive it.

It was okay.

The ending was completely undeserving of everything that came before it, including everything that happened in the first three games.

It's my least favorite Uncharted and I can't really explain why. It just didn't grab me like the others and I kind of just wanted it to be done but it felt like it just kept going on and on. I'm sure I'll play through it again at some point.