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Harassment campaign against MtG cosplayer forces her to leave community(Harasser banned from WoTC)
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Haha, is this precious little snowflake still whining? Take the L and move on, Jeremy, you acted like an idiot and now you're paying for it. What a complete tosser.
Like Gamergate, everyone would be happier if these sad fuckers were alone in their hate vacuum.
If anything, the issue is that they're not really leaving anyone alone.
If anything, the issue is that they're not really leaving anyone alone.
I may be giving too much credit to the this guy's supporters, but aligning yourself with Breitbart seems like a great way of losing support.
Anyone supporting this dude either reads Breitbart or would read it if they liked reading news.
He probably already fed her a bunch of BS about him being the victim.
Dude's getting doxxed, aerial views of his house and pictures of his wife being posted on Christmas day.
A nice tweet -
Sorry people, but I think this sort of behavior is insane.
It is insane. Threatening someone's family because they were a dick online is completely Overboard. People should be happy he was removed.
But it truly is about ethics in cosplaying though!!!!!111!!oneone!!!
Dude's getting doxxed, aerial views of his house and pictures of his wife being posted on Christmas day.
A nice tweet -
Sorry people, but I think this sort of behavior is insane.
Indeed it is. Sadly, there is no telling who is behind that account, as pretty much everything about it screams sockpuppet.
User warned: Calling for doxxing, even in retaliation, is not OK and not allowed on Era
Why are these morons doing this sick shit? He got his punishment and now it's time to move on. They deserve to be threatened and doxxed in return tbh.
Probably, but like I said, I really dont believe Jeremy and he comes off as a guy that would do this to himself to get sympathy and "both sides".
Yup. Hopefully Twitter steps up.
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Yes, and every time there's a flare-up of something like Gamergate:
a) someone decides to do something fuckass stupid and fight fire with fire by harassing or doxxing the initial aggressors,
b) said aggressors seize on this as an opportunity to create a false appearance of victimhood and reverse the narrative about their own bad behavior, and
c) people who legitimately want to combat harassment and bad behavior report on and condemn the "other side" stuff without properly granting the context of how it's a minor thing compared to the organized harassment coming from the movement of people dedicated to organized harassment.
It's true that this is bad and the person involved should be held accountable for it, but ultimately the actual situation is still mass organized harassment directed by Jeremy against known vulnerable targets, and then a few dumbasses trying to do to him what he's done to others. It's not symmetrical and shouldn't be talked about as if it is.
He doesn't need to do it himself, there are a ton of horrible people on the internet and like during GG we see always people with all the same grotesque anti-social tendencies who just choose to align themselves with the nominally "good" side do this shit. All he actually needs to do is wait for someone to do it then play it up as if it's a serious thing or represents an equivalent power balance to what he's doing to other people.
I would avoid immediately jumping to false flag accusations. I've definitely seen the "there are no bad methods, only bad targets" mindset on our side and we shouldn't make excuses or deflect when it happens.
User warned: unsubstantiated accusations of "false flag" doxxing are not OK
He's doxxing himself. I'd bet money on it. "Burn it all to the ground" indeed.
Whenever an organized shitstorm like this happens, there are death threats all around. Just not from him personally, but that's how it is designed to work: the person doing the targetting stays the line and tries his best to be as civil as a fascist can, the army of nobodies that follow him are the ones doing the dirty work. This is encouraged, this is how they do it on purpose.
The girl probably received her share either and her only crime was existing while having a vagina.
Quincognito is completely right. Even assuming he is not doxxing himself, one or a few dipshits that choose to be edgelords of the left is not comparable to the sustained hate campaign they lead.
They don't deserve to be treated the same way they treat others, I am being completely honest here, no one should be doing this to the guy, but then again, what is being done to here, in terms of scale and organized galvanized hate, is not comparable.
And to be sure, it's not like "we" don't fight back.
Let's say it was a dipshit edgelord from the left that is doxxing here. He is doing it wrong. He is fighting it wrong.
We won. WotC kicked him out. He sacrificed his lifelong hobby and source of income to be part of a cultural fascist brigade and he blew it.
We won. We don't need to do this. It is morally wrong. It helps nothing. It creates nothing good.
At least in this microcosm the system worked. There's no need to be as low as him.
Absolutely, and I like I said, I don't think it's worth entertaining false flag claims since they're not necessary to explain it -- even if you're on the "right" side it's likely some people are going to do something unconscionable in support of it.
But, again, if we're keeping it in perspective, let's remember that Jeremy's targets are primarily vulnerable people who are minor internet-famous at absolute best, who face real risks to their family relationships, their livelihood, or even their safety by being targeted, and who universally did nothing to deserve it, while Jeremy is a shitheel nazi sympathizer who willingly chose to escalate this position by maliciously targeting those vulnerable people. People are absolutely wrong to target him (and should be purged with equal ferocity when identified) but any belief that this renders the broader situation any different from the already-established stark black-and-white is deeply wrong.
Why are you acting like the people Jeremy targeted weren't receiving death threats?
It's the most realistic scenario and you know it rofl please don't what.
Are you new to the internet? It's a sad attempt to justify online abuse. I don't like the guy, but internet vigilanteism shouldn't be disregarded based on conspiracy theories.
I'm not justifying a dang thing, I'm saying the likeliest scenario is that the alt right guy used an alt right tactic to assist in his proclamation of burning it to the ground.
https://twitter.com/toxicmtg?lang=en
Here's the twitter account. Are you saying Jeremy is responsible for running this, or am I misunderstanding you?
Yeah...there was a thread about the porn actresss committing suicide not long ago.
It's strange how people are surprised. Not everybody that thinks doxxing and harassment is fine comes from the right. You'd think that decades of SomethingAwful being awful would have established that by now.
I don't believe that a psychopath who isn't above harassing an innocent human being out of a hobby that they love for no other fact than that they are a woman is also not above leaking his own personal information to a blog to incite support for himself in some disgusting and barbaric attempt to abuse the system
This whole thing would be dead and buried if out of nowhere didn't come a Twitter account using the hashtag he created to try to Kickstart a new GG and #antifa.
C'mon. If this isn't fake, then it gotta be the dumbest thing the left has ever done and that includes a non aggression pact with nazi German. Not saying it is impossible, but if all I knew about antifa was what fox News told me and I wanted to act like it, this would be the result.
"Feel terror. I want you be afraid. #antifa"
Like, you want to convince me this isn't a straight up parody that someone from the anti-sjw crowd would come up with:
C'mon. If this isn't fake, then it gotta be the dumbest thing the left has ever done and that includes a non aggression pact with nazi German. Not saying it is impossible, but if all I knew about antifa was what fox News told me and I wanted to act like it, this would be the result.
"Feel terror. I want you be afraid. #antifa"
Like, you want to convince me this isn't a straight up parody that someone from the anti-sjw crowd would come up with:
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Why did they link a Twitter account with the profile:
Yo Fam, I'm a Politically incorrect Kaleesh. i'm @realPrincessTia's royal adviser, loyal follower of Sithis and I love video games, music and books.#AltBrony
Yo Fam, I'm a Politically incorrect Kaleesh. i'm @realPrincessTia's royal adviser, loyal follower of Sithis and I love video games, music and books.#AltBrony
From the that Twitter account:
"I am the Id of magic. The base desire of the majority to rid itself of #magicgate once and for all. #purify"
I do think that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable from the left, but looking at this account, uh. I feel like these are missing a Deus Vult. Like, "divine birthright" is a pretty politically charged phrase, I'd think.
"I am the Id of magic. The base desire of the majority to rid itself of #magicgate once and for all. #purify"
I do think that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable from the left, but looking at this account, uh. I feel like these are missing a Deus Vult. Like, "divine birthright" is a pretty politically charged phrase, I'd think.
Also, account created the day after the ban.
Antifa super soldier whose divine birthright is to cleanse magic watches in silence the whole harassment thing happens, but then decides to jump into action after justice has been done.
Again, there are pretty dumb people on the internet, but this is so much shooting itself on the foot that it is almost like someone carefully aiming downards to make sure the foot is on the way of the bullet.
Antifa super soldier whose divine birthright is to cleanse magic watches in silence the whole harassment thing happens, but then decides to jump into action after justice has been done.
Again, there are pretty dumb people on the internet, but this is so much shooting itself on the foot that it is almost like someone carefully aiming downards to make sure the foot is on the way of the bullet.
Accusations of self-doxxing/"false flags" without evidence are never OK. Please remember that.
That said, the evidence coming out now does show that this account is rather sketchy. I don't think it's necessarily self-doxxing, but it doesn't appear to be a legitimate account either.
That said, the evidence coming out now does show that this account is rather sketchy. I don't think it's necessarily self-doxxing, but it doesn't appear to be a legitimate account either.
Looked through the whole account, since I've seen people who change their existing account names to something due to some event. A lot of the earlier stuff posted makes it seem like they might be a legitimate person who went too far - they did retweet a lot of people who were making legitimate comments, and a lot of their comments aren't particularly unusual or extreme. More recently they've seemed more suspicious, and a lot of them are just mindless "lol mock me more" kind of stuff.
I'll post the stuff that I thought came across as cartoonish or otherwise strange.
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943706546688716805
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943705044997767168
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943671705603575808
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943671280825458688
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/939905508198273024
I can't say I'm 100% confident either way, looking at the whole. I feel like there were two different people here.
EDIT: Was trying to get more tweets to highlight the difference, but it seems like they started off mostly retweeting, and the posts they retweeted are the more level-headed ones. All of the actual original tweets from this account are aggressive, the shift might be dropping the retweets and posting more themselves.
I'll post the stuff that I thought came across as cartoonish or otherwise strange.
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943706546688716805
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943705044997767168
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943671705603575808
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/943671280825458688
https://twitter.com/toxicMTG/status/939905508198273024
I can't say I'm 100% confident either way, looking at the whole. I feel like there were two different people here.
EDIT: Was trying to get more tweets to highlight the difference, but it seems like they started off mostly retweeting, and the posts they retweeted are the more level-headed ones. All of the actual original tweets from this account are aggressive, the shift might be dropping the retweets and posting more themselves.
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