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Easy Allies |OT| The New Era
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Listening to Spoiler Mode and then venturing down into the comments made me realize I never want to hear another opinion about The Last Jedi ever again. I'm done. Closed the tab and felt so much better.
He's off for the holidays for the next week or so. In retrospect, it's not a big deal because once a week is how often the other allies stream. But Damiani's been at it 3-4 times per week between Xenoblade and now Persona. I kinda' got in the habit of tuning him in.
Ah man, I couldn't disagree with Brad more on some of the TLJ stuff. I thought the humor was fantastic.
And I really hate this idea that any humor in a blockbuster now is "Marvel humor." I rewatched TFA last week and it had plenty of humorous moments throughout, including some that didn't feel as "Star Wars-y" as usual.
And I really hate this idea that any humor in a blockbuster now is "Marvel humor." I rewatched TFA last week and it had plenty of humorous moments throughout, including some that didn't feel as "Star Wars-y" as usual.
Even the more reason to understand the complaints about the exaggerated humor on TLJ when you didn't see complaints about it on TFA.
All have said they need to see it again so these opinions may change.
At present it appears to be:
Like: Kyle, Huber
Dislike: Brandon, Brad
Middle: Damiani
General issue is narrative flow and context (though not, surprisingly, for Kyle). Complaints about humor. Brandon appeared to have the most issues with the movie (mirroring my own).
At present it appears to be:
Like: Kyle, Huber
Dislike: Brandon, Brad
Middle: Damiani
General issue is narrative flow and context (though not, surprisingly, for Kyle). Complaints about humor. Brandon appeared to have the most issues with the movie (mirroring my own).
Kyle & Huber liked/loved it.
Damiani, Brad, & Jones not so much lol.
Probably best to hold off on watching any of it until you've seen it, it's Spoiler Mode beginning to end.
Ah thanks! I was about to see it in the cinemas, but decided against it because of the backlash. Just now checked the reviews and it seems to do really well. Maybe I should go see it, I tend to trust critics more than average moviegoer or a fanatic when it comes to film.
I had an issue with them bringing up Thor Ragnarok as an example of "Marvel humour" because, if anything, that's the one Marvel movie that IS genuinely funny and that's because there's a great comedic writer and director behind it. A lot of other Marvel humour falls flat with me though, especially Guardians of the Galaxy 2, so I can see where they're coming from. And I did think most of the comedic moments in TLJ were weak.
I came out of the theatre really happy with TLJ but the more I thought about it, the less I liked it. It just...
does absolutely NOTHING with 99% of the things TFA set up. The entire premise of their ship being too fast to catch, as if Snoke's ships don't have hyperdrive's, is completely ridiculous. Finn's entire side quest is a complete and utter waste of time, you could cut that entire part from the movie and it would actually improve it. And the pacing is terrible, it felt like it was five hours long.
Watching the spoiler mode I was just like soooo frustrated with brandon. Was 100% with Kyle and Huber.
I think Brandon is similar to many of the old star wars fans. You watched it as a kid and have been obsessed with it your whole life and just need to let go. And these are the fans star wars just doesn't need now. I mean going in the movie with this analytical view, constantly evaluating every scene and how you should be feeling seems just exhausting. Also this criticism that someone being a known actor is bad and takes him out of the movie just makes me want to hit my head and forger that he ever said that. It's such a stupid criticism that I honestly don't value his opinion on movies if he considers this as a valid point.
It was a great movie and I'm happy it did what it did to star wars
I think Brandon is similar to many of the old star wars fans. You watched it as a kid and have been obsessed with it your whole life and just need to let go. And these are the fans star wars just doesn't need now. I mean going in the movie with this analytical view, constantly evaluating every scene and how you should be feeling seems just exhausting. Also this criticism that someone being a known actor is bad and takes him out of the movie just makes me want to hit my head and forger that he ever said that. It's such a stupid criticism that I honestly don't value his opinion on movies if he considers this as a valid point.
It was a great movie and I'm happy it did what it did to star wars
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Lmao, I don't know the context for this but I agree that it's really silly. I recognize and know a lot of actors, good thing they aren't disposable to me so I can watch them in more than just one movie.
Edit: Ooh, I just remembered Jones saying something else about movies that sounded really dumb, or atleast how he worded it. It was about Reservoir Dogs being better film than it's supposed to be because of low budget. Like what the hell, budget has very little to do if movie is good or not. And if I remember correctly also the low number of different locations should somehow make Reservoir Dogs worse movie than it is.
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I'm pretty much with kyle and huber on this one... my goodness, I love TLJ so much, I constantly think about it and I need to see it again.
I think I did the same...
I loved this movie so much, but the conversation around it goes down to whatever nitpick the fandom has and I really don't care about it. I love it, I don't need to demonstrate anyone how much I think it's good, I'll let the "fans" go down their hole if they want to.
I think I did the same...
I loved this movie so much, but the conversation around it goes down to whatever nitpick the fandom has and I really don't care about it. I love it, I don't need to demonstrate anyone how much I think it's good, I'll let the "fans" go down their hole if they want to.
I think Brad's own idea of who "Hux" is clouds his memories of Hux from TFA. Hux is a big fucking joke in that movie too. The whole movie is basically "Kylo...you're a badass sith manchild, just put up with this stupid mortal's tantrums and ego trips and you'll be leader some day."
Yeah I think I've heard Jones make that famous actors argument before, and I thought it was just as silly back then. The other allies clearly thought so too lol.
Yeah the whole famous actor argument didn't really make sense.
Like from what he was saying it seems the only way to counter it for him would be to either hire some unknown for non main characters or give them a full back story which kind of goes against being a side character.
Like from what he was saying it seems the only way to counter it for him would be to either hire some unknown for non main characters or give them a full back story which kind of goes against being a side character.
Fun spoiler mode. Put me in the huber/Kyle camp. I was fine with most of the criticisms Brad and Damiani had but I took issue with Brandon and this
really high bar he had to be able to care about any new character or plot device. By his logic you could make the same argument of why care about obi-wan's Fate in A new hope? It's just a famous actor and hardly did anything to get attached to him. Let alone Luke being so attached to someone he just met. But we don't, because it's a silly argument to make.
As for Laura Dern's character not revealing her plans I'd contend some of it for me is she's playing it safe since it's never revealed how exactly are they tracking the ship. Could easily be a first order spy on there. So just blurting it out on the bridge would be a bad move. I also just like the idea that they don't think of Poe as much a big shot as we do as the audience is bias due to knowing he's one of the main characters. Not a reckless pilot just demoted for instigating a fight that wiped a significant portion of their fleet
As for Laura Dern's character not revealing her plans I'd contend some of it for me is she's playing it safe since it's never revealed how exactly are they tracking the ship. Could easily be a first order spy on there. So just blurting it out on the bridge would be a bad move. I also just like the idea that they don't think of Poe as much a big shot as we do as the audience is bias due to knowing he's one of the main characters. Not a reckless pilot just demoted for instigating a fight that wiped a significant portion of their fleet
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It's a flawed movie (that I've seen twice and still love) for all kinds of reasons, but to sit and nitpick it isn't for me. I should've expected that from a Spoiler Mode, but still watched about 10 minutes of it before bouncing. I guess I just don't like "nerd yelling." This should've been an Opinion Yell because it appeared to be devolving into that. Oh well. I think I'll avoid Spoiler Modes from now on as they're probably mostly just bitch sessions for unsatisfied fans.
Also, re: Brandon's famous actor thing... I get it with voice acting in games (to a degree), but in a movie? Are you kidding me? I love BJ, but sometimes he baffles the living crap out of me.
Good luck with that! I'm not that into Star Wars that I need to see it as soon as it comes out, but I hate being spoiled so I'm just going to see it next week, because the internet will soon be a minefield.
Not really. It's Star Wars, it's always going to devolve into "nerd yelling".
Their Persona 5 SM is pretty good.
I probably should've said movie Spoiler Modes. I didn't enjoy the Alien: Covenant one either, even though I agreed with them completely.
But question for those who did watch the whole thing: do they get into the themes of the movie at all? Or do they just talk about plot?
Yeah, it was. Can't wait for late January/early February as im expecting Ubisoft to release a lot of footage like they did with ACO back in early October. And of course, the game itself. Disappointed that it was delayed but at least it's only a four week delay.
He seems to have somewhat soured on BotW since release, like he didn't play the DLC's at all until the other day and generally stopped talking about it really
Also, how do we get him to play Half Life 2? That Half Life playthrough is one of my fav streams, sour and bitter Damaini is great
I enjoyed the spoiler mode. It had good representation of different views which is nice so liked the diversity of opinions clash. I personally was lukewarm on it. It was fast and furious levels of enjoyable.
Seven is underrated. May or may not have the coolest Protoman encounters.
So because someone doesn't agree with your opinion, Star Wars doesn't need them?
What a toxic opinion to have.
Jones is the only one that doesn't just blindly bash the prequels as well.
it made sense to me. for characters with such short screen time it comes across as celebrity cameos. he has no problem with main characters being famous actors. i can appreciate that sentiment.
I see what you're saying. But I do think if he'd been played by a nobody, the moment when we first meet him wouldn't have had the "oh, he's the guy" kind of feel to it, if that makes sense. Seeing a familiar face, especially one known for that type of role, gives you instant understanding of who this character probably is. And given his limited screen time, I think it was an asset to have a known actor in the role.
this is me but with metroid and without getting paid for it
Heh, I still have my Millenium Falcon and two R2D2:s on display so I'd consider myself a big fan. But I treat the original trilogy bit separately from the other movies, so while I rather not be spoiled it wouldn't ruin my day.
What bothers me the most is that I can't participate to the discussion around the controversy, makes me want to spoil the movie for myself.
"I probably shouldn't say it but Persona 5 is my GOTY" AGREED Huber. Can't wait to see the collective GOTY for EZA, what a year.
I'm surprised in that, not because p5 is a bad game at all, in fact it's one of my GotY, but because of everything else that was released this year, and beating out RE7 and EW2 for Huber, who lives horror, says alot
I don't really know where this is coming from since he just extensively praised it in the latest Friend Code.
Oh has he? Not seen that EP. yet, I was more referring to the DLC playthroughs last week
No doubt about it. Using Proto Man as a hint system at first was nice enough, but his last encounter harkens back really nicely to his first encounters in MM3. After playing 7 more I'd definitely contend its under rated, I do wonder if the Japanese version is easier though compared to the American version - just little things like Burst Man's attack pattern seemed way more lenient when I played the Japanese version last week, compared to when I was doing my Legacy Collection 2 run on release. Shade Man as well seemed less aggressive with his dives in my Japanese playthrough compared to the American version.
Might just be my imagination though, I might have just really stepped my game up!
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