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Sir Guts

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Great news! Switch doing so well that Nintendo must up their game with stocking more. SMO sold above 1 million and that's excluding the digital sales!
 

Shahadan

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Choosing a patrick gif looking like a dumb baby of all things probably doesn't mean anything nice
 

memoryman3

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When alls said and done I think Mario Kart will pass Odyssey again because these kinds of games tend to be quite frontloaded.
 

AnimalFather

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The user was banned for amassing multiple warnings and this post (72 hours). Don't make lazy drive-by posts meant only to inflame people into console wars.
in a country of 150 milion only 3 million sold switches is not a good figure. that should be atleast in the 10-20 million range. maybe it will hit that in a few years.
 

HomespunFur

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in a country of 150 milion only 3 million sold switches is not a good figure. that should be atleast in the 10-20 million range. maybe it will hit that in a few years.

Well it is selling out still so some people couldn't buy one if they wanted one.
Also selling 20 million in nine months in just one region seems unlikely
 

Pokémon

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in a country of 150 milion only 3 million sold switches is not a good figure. that should be atleast in the 10-20 million range. maybe it will hit that in a few years.

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Skittzo

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There's a Nintendo Switch OT- https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-switch-ot-now-youre-playing-with-power-hybrid-power.3241/

Though I wouldn't make a thread about this because there's really nothing substantial there.
 
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It's crazy how, despite how well the Switch is doing, there's still plenty of room for untapped markets.

Nintendo put out a statistic the other month show gender and age breakdown of Switch owners.Unsurprisingly, it was mostly men in their mid to late 20s and early 30s iirc. Nintendo handhelds have always been popular with women and children, so when games like Pokemon and Animal Crossing drop, we'll only see demand for the console increase.
 

Boiled Goose

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Japan doesn't like open-world games. Note how BotW is like, the only Japanese open-world game in the past half-decade. Or whole decade, honestly

Botw is "open world" and it's the best selling console game in Japan in a while. Might be the best selling. So Japan likes open world more than the formulaic and stale ww tp ss formula
 

sfortunato

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thanks. i'm still not sure what a "drive-by" post is but im starting to think it means an unpopular opinion..

It doesn't make sense to compare hardware sales to population. You must compare with hardware sales of other platforms. At this point, Switch is selling just below 3DS which has been the third most successful platform of all time in Japan, only behind DS and GB---while being supply constrained and at a very high price with respect to those handheld platforms. It is going to outsell PS4 in a few months.
 

Cudpug

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Excellent news! Hopefully this attracts lots of developers to make games for the system - exclusives would be awesome!
 

Revolsin

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thanks. i'm still not sure what a "drive-by" post is but im starting to think it means an unpopular opinion..

That wasn't an unpopular opinion, just a thoroughly misinformed and odd one.

You might also like to wonder why the 70 million PS4s sold worldwide in 4 years are incredibly low compared to our 7.6 billion population. What are those 7530 million people doing? PS4 must be a serious flop.
 

AnimalFather

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That wasn't an unpopular opinion, just a thoroughly misinformed and odd one.

You might also like to wonder why the 70 million PS4s sold worldwide in 4 years are incredibly low compared to our 7.6 billion population. What are those 7530 million people doing? PS4 must be a serious flop.

No. but there is a relation between population and console sales. ofc GDP plays a role in that too. But to claim that population plays no part is false. And for a country like japan that is so nintendo/game focused to only sell 3 million copies is low. Ofc this is just the beginning i could easily see the switch selling 20mil at the end of its cycle in japan alone.
 

Revolsin

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No. but there is a relation between population and console sales. ofc GDP plays a role in that too. But to claim that population plays no part is false. And for a country like japan that is so nintendo/game focused to only sell 3 million copies is low. Ofc this is just the beginning i could easily see the switch selling 20mil at the end of its cycle in japan alone.

Low compared to...? The 3DS was also at 3 million within 9-10 months, same as Switch, despite being significantly less expensive. And if you don't compare with Nintendo products, the PS4 is at 5.7 million after 4 years.

Any way you look at it these numbers aren't low.
 

PattonFiend

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I seriously cannot keep up with all of these games. Over 900 moons + 100 hours in Odyssey. 705 hours into Breath of the Wild. Just started Skyrim on Monday with over 30 hours already and haven't even broke the cellophane on Xenoblade Chronicles 2. This is not counting, like, 15 Indie games as well that I have barely played. Too... many... GAMES!!
 

AnimalFather

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Low compared to...? The 3DS was also at 3 million within 9-10 months, same as Switch, despite being significantly less expensive. And if you don't compare with Nintendo products, the PS4 is at 5.7 million after 4 years.

Any way you look at it these numbers aren't low.

its a good product. every person should own one.
 

ElectricBlanketFire

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No. but there is a relation between population and console sales. ofc GDP plays a role in that too. But to claim that population plays no part is false. And for a country like japan that is so nintendo/game focused to only sell 3 million copies is low. Ofc this is just the beginning i could easily see the switch selling 20mil at the end of its cycle in japan alone.
Can you link to an article that shows the Switch/Odyssey performing poorly in Japan?
 
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thanks. i'm still not sure what a "drive-by" post is but im starting to think it means an unpopular opinion..

Because you didn't actually think it should have been selling 15 million units in Japan in 9 months, you just wanted to quip that 3 million consoles in Japan is a low number.

Also that guy was saying your post was the best facetiously.
 

AnimalFather

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Because you didn't actually think it should have been selling 15 million units in Japan in 9 months, you just wanted to quip that 3 million consoles in Japan is a low number.

Also that guy was saying your post was the best facetiously.

thank you for pointing out the sarcasm....

i never said 3 million is a low number for the short time. overall its low cause i think it will hit 20mil easy in a few years.
 
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i never said 3 million is a low number for the short time. overall its low cause i think it will hit 20mil easy in a few years.
"in a country of 150 milion only 3 million sold switches is not a good figure."

Immediately saying it's not a good figure right out the gate based on population ratio within the 9 months it's been out, and then saying it should be selling more consoles than any other console has ever had in that span of time in a single country, and then saying it could do it in several years all at once is a messy group of statements. Would you not see how that can be construed as a post made with no thought whatsoever.
 

AnimalFather

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"in a country of 150 milion only 3 million sold switches is not a good figure."

Immediately saying it's not a good figure right out the gate based on population ratio within the 9 months it's been out, and then saying it should be selling more consoles than any other console has ever had in that span of time in a single country, and then saying it could do it in several years all at once is a messy group of statements. Would you not see how that can be construed as a post made with no thought whatsoever.

ive already explained my position on this numerous times.
 
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ive already explained my position on this numerous times.
Okay look. Let's try it this a different direction. Based on what your reasoning is. (Also the population of Japan is under 130 million, to correct you.)

From the launch of the Super Famicom in Japan in November 1990 to April 1991 was 1.44 million consoles. 6 months. At a period of height of Nintendo's popularity. In that time the population of Japan was around 123.9 million people.

N64. June 1996 to April 1997, it was 2 million consoles. 11 months. Population was 126 million.

Wii. December 2006 to April 2007. Also 2 million. 4 months. Population was 127 million. This is after the DS had begun selling like hotcakes sinc ethe year previous. Nintendo was at another peak. Supply constraints.

Switch. March 2017 to December 2017. 3 million. 9 months. Population was 126.6 million. Another Nintendo peak, more supply constraints.

None of this tells me Switch's current number is not good because the population does not correlate with what you think it should be selling.
 

BitterFig

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Great numbers. Switch is a great concept. Though, for nostalgia's sake, I wish they'd also ship a pure console version with a pro controller like the good old days.
 
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It's truly amazing what succes for nintendo can do to people. I've said it before but the amount of passive aggresive saltyness never seems to end. By now it could be used as an energy source for the Large Hadron Collider.

EDIT: to add a bit to that, my advice to the good people in this thread trying to debate in good faith with some of the losers: don't. I've had some real awful experiences with these types around the DS/Wii era and the lesson i learned was this: sceptics don't want to learn or want to know. They just want to feel smarter then you and better about themselves. Try and debate and they'll just tear you down instead.

Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
 
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Zedark

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AnimalFather Your argument is that Switch numbers are not good because selling 3 million in 9 months on a population of 127 million is not good. If your premise (selling 3 million in 9 months on a population of 127 million) were to be correct, then there should be systems that did way more than that, otherwise all systems sell badly in Japan, and if that is your conclusion, then you should readjust your expectations, since saying nothing has ever sold well in Japan is a useless statement that says more about your uncalibrated views than the actual market. So, let's take a look at hardware sales in the first 9 months for a plethora of systems (all numbers according to Media Create):

- PS4: 809.065
- 3DS: 2.678.016
- DS: 3,074,473

I will add some more later, don't have time to track them down atm. But, looking at 3DS and DS, two of the best-selling systems in Japan of all time, you can see that reaching 3 million in 9 months is representative of a top selling console. Therefore, the conclusion should be that this is a great result imo, since it's among the highest ever.

thank you for pointing out the sarcasm....

i never said 3 million is a low number for the short time. overall its low cause i think it will hit 20mil easy in a few years.
3 million obviously isn't where it's going to end up, so I don't see why you would want to say 3 million is not good if you mean 3 million lifetime is not good, since there's no context in which 3 million lifetime for Switch should even be mentioned, as it's going past that with giant steps already. If your point really was that 3 million lifetime is not a good final result and Switch must sell more units in the next years, then that's an absolutely vacuous comment, and moreover framed with negative wording.
 
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Your argument is that Switch numbers are not good because selling 3 million in 9 months on a population of 270 million is not good. If your premise (selling 3 million in 9 months on a population of 270 million) were to be correct,
son if the population of Japan was 270 million goddamn people, they wouldn't be so worried about declining birthrate.
 
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