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anyprophet

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Oct 27, 2017
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Start playing mill rogue, queue into 2 Benedictus priest in a row.

Go fuck yourself Blizzard.

the other day I was showing a friend some of the new decks people were playing. the first thing I queued was aggro paladin because I had just been testing it out. I said something like, "I haven't lost a game with this deck yet, but I also haven't seen ant control warlock." and then of course my opponent was a control warlock that had taunt into taunt into 2/2 that summoned a huge taunt.
 

SonicXtreme

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ok apparently I have to counter queue at freaking rank 14 in wild wtf I've had repeats plenty of times in single digit ranks but 14!!!?? Seriously? Just let the timer run for twelve seconds blizzard that's stupid we aren't the only people playing Friday at midnight
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver
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I'm Legend now! First time ever. All the way to 624

I feel I've been overdoing it with talking about my stats, making it look like bragging and shaming i'm sorry for that. I've just been over excited about my recent success. I'll try to scale that back from now on.

I wanted to make it with my own deck, and I'll consider changing 6 cards to Satellites big spell priest good enough. Especially since Big Spell Priest seemed to die off at about rank 3. Maybe I should do a reddit write up on it and really break the meta.


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Final Version Rank 3 to Legend:
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All Time Rank 7 to Legend:
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### Grand Dragon Priest
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
#
AAECAa0GBJG8AtHTApziAtDnAg0IqAWNCPIMursC8LsCysMCmcgCyssCps4C+9MCy+YC1+sCAA==
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsdecktracker.net
 
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Copper

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Nov 13, 2017
666
Got to rank 10 legend with cubelock in wild. Went 11-0 from rank 2-2 to legend, then 5-1 in legend. Deck is disgusting.
 

fertygo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Feel Cubelock combo is something many other game had it,its just feel "card game ish"

Another fuel for HS community absurd hate to combo and burst, yet they also mad to board centric aggro
 

Copper

Banned
Nov 13, 2017
666
Doomguard cube isn't even the good part, i play only 1 cube. It's the 80% chance to cheat a huge fattie by t5 with sense demon and voidcaller
 

Deleted member 1041

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Cubelock is something Yu Gi Oh would have, like the Yatagarasu bullshittery back in the day.

This meta feels nice? Seeing alotta things that work. Granted Cubelock is pretty amazing atm.
 
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Feel Cubelock combo is something many other game had it,its just feel "card game ish"

Another fuel for HS community absurd hate to combo and burst, yet they also mad to board centric aggro

The absurd hate is because defensive options in Hearthstone suck ass. If there was actually real counterplay to some of the degenerate stuff we've seen over the years then maybe it wouldn't be such an issue.
 

Lyng

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Oct 27, 2017
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The absurd hate is because defensive options in Hearthstone suck ass. If there was actually real counterplay to some of the degenerate stuff we've seen over the years then maybe it wouldn't be such an issue.

Exactly. The lack of interaction options on your opponents turn makes the fun combo decks hated.
 

SonicXtreme

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Oct 27, 2017
1,713
I think I'll get ignorant today and try to bring back any fin can happen with some clone cards, and call to arms and mysterious challenger package to make an insanely thinned out deck by turn 10

Enjoy the free ranked wins over me guys
 

KuroNeeko

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Oct 25, 2017
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Osaka
I saw Cube and Doomguard today for the first time.

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Congrats, Potato. The Patches version seems to be gaining traction. I think Priest with Patches and Priest is probably the closest thing to a mortal sin ever.
 

zoukka

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Oct 28, 2017
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Lol just now realized that Atiesh doesn't lose durability if it cannot summon a minion.
 

SonicXtreme

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Oct 27, 2017
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Y'all don't post enough decks you made. Esp wild. I know kar plays a lot of wild but more of you gotta. Here's my Reno dragon priest. I should put in a recruiter somewhere but it's hard , list is pretty tight

### DRAGON RENO
# Class: Priest
# Format: Wild
#
# 1x (1) Northshire Cleric
# 1x (1) Potion of Madness
# 1x (1) Power Word: Shield
# 1x (1) Twilight Whelp
# 1x (2) Doomsayer
# 1x (2) Netherspite Historian
# 1x (2) Shadow Visions
# 1x (2) Shadow Word: Pain
# 1x (2) Wyrmrest Agent
# 1x (3) Brann Bronzebeard
# 1x (3) Kabal Talonpriest
# 1x (3) Shadow Word: Death
# 1x (3) Tar Creeper
# 1x (3) Velen's Chosen
# 1x (4) Duskbreaker
# 1x (4) Kazakus
# 1x (4) Twilight Drake
# 1x (4) Twilight Guardian
# 1x (5) Azure Drake
# 1x (5) Blackwing Corruptor
# 1x (5) Cobalt Scalebane
# 1x (5) Drakonid Operative
# 1x (5) Raza the Chained
# 1x (6) Bone Drake
# 1x (6) Dragonfire Potion
# 1x (6) Entomb
# 1x (6) Lightbomb
# 1x (6) Reno Jackson
# 1x (8) Primordial Drake
# 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin
#
AAEBAa0GHooB5QS5Bo0I0wrXCvIMjw+SD+4R6RKJFKQUwxaFF8cXgrUCg7sCtbsCursC2LsC8LsC6r8C0cECysMCyccCx8sCyssCkNMCy+YCAAA=
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
 

scarlet

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Oct 25, 2017
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Weird interaction

I pinged my acolyte of pain, drew scroll of wonders that casted bane of doom to my acolyte, I got the 4/3 demon and a water elemental.
 

anyprophet

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
941
I'm Legend now! First time ever. All the way to 624

I feel I've been overdoing it with talking about my stats, making it look like bragging and shaming i'm sorry for that. I've just been over excited about my recent success. I'll try to scale that back from now on.

I wanted to make it with my own deck, and I'll consider changing 6 cards to Satellites big spell priest good enough. Especially since Big Spell Priest seemed to die off at about rank 3. Maybe I should do a reddit write up on it and really break the meta.


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Final Version Rank 3 to Legend:
lTyz0jI.png


All Time Rank 7 to Legend:
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### Grand Dragon Priest
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
#
AAECAa0GBJG8AtHTApziAtDnAg0IqAWNCPIMursC8LsCysMCmcgCyssCps4C+9MCy+YC1+sCAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsdecktracker.net

congrats! first time is always the sweetest.

also RIP shaman and warrior.
 

anyprophet

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
941
Weird interaction

I pinged my acolyte of pain, drew scroll of wonders that casted bane of doom to my acolyte, I got the 4/3 demon and a water elemental.

yeah it looks like they coded the hero power in such a way that it doesn't take into account fringe interactions. like i bet the same thing would happen if you pinged a 2 health acolyte and it drew a sea reaver.

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but how often is a sea reaver going to be in a mage deck let alone getting drawn when pinging an acolyte with jaina up.

edit: it may be slightly more likely now since you can get sea reaver from unstable portal and then priest can psychic scream it back into your deck lol
 

Ace Harding

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Oct 25, 2017
313
I'm Legend now! First time ever. All the way to 624

I feel I've been overdoing it with talking about my stats, making it look like bragging and shaming i'm sorry for that. I've just been over excited about my recent success. I'll try to scale that back from now on.

I wanted to make it with my own deck, and I'll consider changing 6 cards to Satellites big spell priest good enough. Especially since Big Spell Priest seemed to die off at about rank 3. Maybe I should do a reddit write up on it and really break the meta.


04YaUxF.png


Final Version Rank 3 to Legend:
lTyz0jI.png


All Time Rank 7 to Legend:
7sf37S7.png


### Grand Dragon Priest
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Mammoth
#
AAECAa0GBJG8AtHTApziAtDnAg0IqAWNCPIMursC8LsCysMCmcgCyssCps4C+9MCy+YC1+sCAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsdecktracker.net

Woah - thanks for this. I've been stuck at 13-14 for a week and getting frustrated but this deck gave me a little boost. Quickly to 12 and about to hit 11.

Now please delete this post and DO NOT post on reddit lol
 

SonicXtreme

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Oct 27, 2017
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Woah - thanks for this. I've been stuck at 13-14 for a week and getting frustrated but this deck gave me a little boost. Quickly to 12 and about to hit 11.

Now please delete this post and DO NOT post on reddit lol
everyone knows cubelock is stupid. im too cheap to make the epics tho. plus i hate the whole 'play one deck over and over' thing so i dont feel like throwing at a bunch of one deck epics atm, i always hop between at least 3 otherwise i get bored out of my mind, no idea how ppl can play the same deck 100 games in a row, but then again i have no idea how ppl can watch the same show on netflix for 18 straight hours either so i'm not the average dude

thats why i like wild its easy to hop between secret mage, aggro pally, giant druid, giant jade druid, etc etc when i get bored of the same deck
 

Luminish

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,508
Denver
Woah - thanks for this. I've been stuck at 13-14 for a week and getting frustrated but this deck gave me a little boost. Quickly to 12 and about to hit 11.

Now please delete this post and DO NOT post on reddit lol

Glad it's working out for you. Pro tip, Grand Archivist will never cast mind control if there are no minions on the opponent's board. It took me a very long time to realize that.

everyone knows cubelock is stupid. im too cheap to make the epics tho. plus i hate the whole 'play one deck over and over' thing so i dont feel like throwing at a bunch of one deck epics atm, i always hop between at least 3 otherwise i get bored out of my mind, no idea how ppl can play the same deck 100 games in a row, but then again i have no idea how ppl can watch the same show on netflix for 18 straight hours either so i'm not the average dude

thats why i like wild its easy to hop between secret mage, aggro pally, giant druid, giant jade druid, etc etc when i get bored of the same deck
It's Satellite's Big Spell Priest not cubelock, and a lot of people know about it too though it is a lot more niche in high ranks. I think changing six of the 4 mana or less cards makes it play pretty differently too. I can't say Satellite's versions are wrong since it's clearly working for him and many others, but this version worked best for me and probably could for others too. Maybe be the thing that pushes it over the edge, or is found out to be worse, one or two players is too small of a sample to know.

And I like bouncing around different decks too. Just sometimes it's nice sticking with one to see all the ins and outs that you could never see with just a few games, like when I talked about my experience playing against cubelock with that deck.
 

Karsticles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Grats on legend, potato!!!

Ok apparently I have to counter queue at freaking rank 14 in wild wtf I've had repeats plenty of times in single digit ranks but 14!!!?? Seriously? Just let the timer run for twelve seconds blizzard that's stupid we aren't the only people playing Friday at midnight
How about you wait a minute before queuing again?

I usually don't share my decks because if they ARE good then I don't want them to become more popular on ladder. For example, I have a 100% winrate in the Cubelock mirror (4 matches), and it is entirely because of how I tech my deck. If everyone started copying my tech options it would suck.

But if you need deck ideas then the Wild Discord is 100% the best place. All of the top ladder players share their decks there as they make them.

Right now I redrafted my Secret Mage with more burn and Aluneth to make a Secret Burn Mage. 4-0 with it last night. It feels kind of like Aggro Shaman with draw options. Lol. PLEASE GIVE ALL CLASSES GOOD DRAW OPTIONS!

Just how few people play wild? Still going 11-0 is pretty insane. Congrats.
Estimates are around 1/10 of the Standard playerbase. It's definitely growing, though, and it will grow more as sets people like are rotated. When N'Zoth rotates, I think a lot of people are going to miss him.

Most people don't play Wild because they either dusted their old cards or assume that it is filled with Piloted Shredders and Dr. Boom. They aren't aware that Standard hard power crept like crazy, and Dr. Boom is completely irrelevant now.
 

Ace Harding

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Oct 25, 2017
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Glad it's working out for you. Pro tip, Grand Archivist will never cast mind control if there are no minions on the opponent's board. It took me a very long time to realize that.


It's Satellite's Big Spell Priest not cubelock, and a lot of people know about it too though it is a lot more niche in high ranks. I think changing six of the 4 mana or less cards makes it play pretty differently too. I can't say Satellite's versions are wrong since it's clearly working for him and many others, but this version worked best for me and probably could for others too. Maybe be the thing that pushes it over the edge, or is found out to be worse, one or two players is too small of a sample to know.

And I like bouncing around different decks too. Just sometimes it's nice sticking with one to see all the ins and outs that you could never see with just a few games, like when I talked about my experience playing against cubelock with that deck.
Ah - I hadn't been throwing Archivist out there with an empty opponent board because I didn't want to waste a Mind Control. So that's good to know.

So will it automatically cast Free From Amber in that case?

Grand Archivist when those are your only two spells is so damn good. And when Spiteful Summoner puts out a Grand Archivist which then puts out Mind Control.
 

Ketch

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Oct 25, 2017
2,287
So I haven't bought packs for kobolds yet, but I have a lot of dust. Is control warlock the lock deck I should craft? Will it continue to be relevant? Has the meta settled enough to know, or should I keep waiting?
 

IceMarker

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Oct 26, 2017
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Year of the Mammoth meta has been getting progressively worse as the expansions have released. Looks like Hearthstone will be at it's best when there are less cards in Standard at the start of each year.
 

anyprophet

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Oct 27, 2017
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ah yes the beginning of the year of the mammoth when the best deck in the game was pirate warrior and quest rogue bullied control off of the ladder. everyone loved it.
 

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ah yes the beginning of the year of the mammoth when pirate warrior was the best deck in the game was pirate warrior and quest rogue bullied control off of the ladder. everyone loved it.


The ungoro meta is widely considered to be the best one ever, so yes.


And the other meta widely considered the best is WOTOG, which again, was right after rotation.
 

IceMarker

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ah yes the beginning of the year of the mammoth when the best deck in the game was pirate warrior and quest rogue bullied control off of the ladder. everyone loved it.
I'd take that bullshit over this current bullshit, also Patches contributed to the worst of the best meta too.

P.S. Delete Corridor Creeper from the game, don't just rotate it to Wild in a year Blizzard, literally remove it.
 

anyprophet

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Oct 27, 2017
941
corridor creeper would be a problem even without patches. it needs to be nerfed to say friendly minions at the very least. it should probably even cost 8 or 9 mana.
 

Karsticles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Corridor Creeper to cost 20 mana in the next patch. Patches is a problem, but it isn't enabling Corridor Creeper when Aggro Paladin is vomiting half a dozen minions per turn between recruits and call to arms.

In other news, Wild is completely infused with Thicclock. I havent seen another Warlock deck in the last two days. It feels like it has all the power of a combo deck combined with massive tempo and value. This deck feels like it is the new gatekeeper of aggro. Either you can beat this deck on board or you are trash.
 

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Any card that is played in so many different decks is guaranteed to get a nerf. Blizzard isn't stupid. They wouldn't let a single card be in so many different decks for an entire rotation, especially if that card is proven to be so powerful that most decks are weaker for not including it.

They just wouldn't ever do that, they will show that they are in charge now of the balance of this game.
 

SonicXtreme

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Oct 27, 2017
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Any card that is played in so many different decks is guaranteed to get a nerf. Blizzard isn't stupid. They wouldn't let a single card be in so many different decks for an entire rotation, especially if that card is proven to be so powerful that most decks are weaker for not including it.

They just wouldn't ever do that, they will show that they are in charge now of the balance of this game.
arrr you sure about that
 

BabyMurloc

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Yeah I think there's a good chance nothing will be done about Corridor Creeper. The devs don't seem to concern themselves much with the meta.
 

DSP

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CC will be nerfed, probably makes it to HCT though so after that, it's just plainly stupid it's in every deck, class and archetype, it's even worse than Dr. Boom ....

Some of other stuff in this set seem like will be very dangerous in future though. I'm concerned about all the warlock stuff, seems like really limiting in future and what they can do with the game. Voidlord shit is stupid against any deck. The grind is draining and unfun and other control decks will lose to it too, it's not just aggro. you basically have to play in another dimension to beat it reliably. Raza, quest mage and things like that. The game can quickly devolve into RPS again.
 
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Karsticles

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When a Priest heals your face on turn 2, do you thank him/her?

CC will be nerfed, probably makes it to HCT though so after that, it's just plainly stupid it's in every deck, class and archetype, it's even worse than Dr. Boom ....

Some of other stuff in this set seem like will be very dangerous in future though. I'm concerned about all the warlock stuff, seems like really limiting in future and what they can do with the game. Voidlord shit is stupid against any deck. The grind is draining and unfun and other control decks will lose to it too, it's not just aggro. you basically have to play in another dimension to beat it reliably. Raza, quest mage and things like that. The game can quickly devolve into RPS again.
This is exactly how I feel right now. Raza Priest pushed the game strongly into the RPS category, and this set is giving turning that push into a shove.
 
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Schreckstoff

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Oct 25, 2017
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yep warlock shuts up everything but hyper aggro and decks that go over it. You can't midrange a turn 5 voidlord followeed by more voidlords, followed by Guldan, followed by 25 damage to face.
 

Karsticles

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Oct 25, 2017
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Play Mill Rogue for one match.

Face Benedictus Priest.

Edit: and he Vanishes Benedictus back into his hand and uses it again...
 
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I've been doing alright against warlock with rogue. I'm running spellbreaker and ooze though. It's the goddamn Doomguards that are the real threat.
 

IceMarker

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If I actually conceded automatically versus every Priest, Exodia Mage, Tempo Rogue, Secret Mage, Cubelock, Zoolock, I'd have to wait about 5 games on average until I'd have a match.
 
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