the m series is between the e series and p series, and actually has real hdr benefits
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/m-series-xled-2017
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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the m series is between the e series and p series, and actually has real hdr benefits
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/m-series-xled-2017
I was really impressed by the HDR picture quality when I compared it with SDR. Maybe your brightness/colour needed adjusting in the in-game settings.
It's possible, but a bit weird since the same settings worked with Uncharted. But I'm just beginning to scratch the surface of the settings :3
I have this TV in my living room and it's a great TV for daily TV viewing. It doesn't get very bright but if it's in a dark room it's ok.
Unfortunately there's no HDR standard and each implementation varies so it's nice that Capcom and Polyphony Digital allow you to tinker with the brightness.
Looks like both TVs suffer from watching at different viewing angles. The E Series I have is tilted, hanging on the wall, which probably explains the poor quality I'm seeing. Also, SmartCast takes forever to start up after turning the TV back on.
Bypassed my Denon last night and hooked the Pro up directly to my B6. MUCH better. HDR with Destiny 2 now looks really, really good and somehow Horizon looks even better than it did before. Zero color banding now. Wish I would've known about this issue beforehand and I would have bought something else besides this Denon. I like Audyssey though and they're one of the few using it.
It's much faster to cast what you want from your phone or computer to the TV. From what I've found.
Oh for sure, but I had a major issue casting anything this morning. Maybe it's just my unit.
X4200W
The HDR color banding when using pass through seems to be a known issue after searching around.
Damn. Thats a bummer. I'm looking into getting an x3400. I need to see what known issues it has as well.
My B7A is having all kinds of weird TOSLINK issues with my A/V receiver. Pausing streaming apps kills the audio, have to switch inputs on the receiver to bring it back.
Anybody else seeing issues like this?
Anybody else seeing issues like this?
I have an x1300w (2016 model) and have no issues with 4k HDR content (only real issue is the aux HDMI port does not support 4k HDR due to the aux and rear HDMI inputs having different pathways).
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If you have not seen any Netflix content before,ie. First time watching Punisher or other shows. Yes because the 4K and HDR is better than HD. If you're already up on the shows, then no. The selection is very poor and nothing comes close to 4K and HDR you get from a UHD disc etc.
There's a bunch of shows I haven't watched so maybe I'll just do it for a month. Still behind on Marvel shows and also haven't watched Stranger Things S2.
I think so, but that's because I'm sharing a plan with my family and 4k gets you simultaneous streaming on more sets.
Only watched a bit of episode 1 of Punisher in 4k and I was a bit underwhelming due to the film grain they put on it.
I'm currently thinking about buying a 55-inch Sony X930 E. The only thing I'm worried about are the apparently problematic viewing angles. Specifically, I'm never watching in off angles horizontally, but sometimes my head is a little below the tv, so a little off vertically.
So my question is, are vertical viewing angles an issue as well, or is it just horizontally?
So my question is, are vertical viewing angles an issue as well, or is it just horizontally?
Hello all. I recenty purchase an LG OLED65B7A and a compatible 7.1 receiver that will pass through 4k/HDR/4:4:4.
In this situation I will only be utilizing 1 input on the tv. The receiver will have a PS4 pro, Xbox One X, Switch & PC plugged into it.
So my question is, will I have to manually change the tv's picture setting every time I change the receiver source?
IE: HDR/SDR settings for PS4 Pro
HDR/SDR game mode setting for Xbox One gaming &
HDR/SDR settings for Xbox movie viewing,
HDR/SDR settings for PC gaming/video.
Seems like a lot to be fiddling with.
In this situation I will only be utilizing 1 input on the tv. The receiver will have a PS4 pro, Xbox One X, Switch & PC plugged into it.
So my question is, will I have to manually change the tv's picture setting every time I change the receiver source?
IE: HDR/SDR settings for PS4 Pro
HDR/SDR game mode setting for Xbox One gaming &
HDR/SDR settings for Xbox movie viewing,
HDR/SDR settings for PC gaming/video.
Seems like a lot to be fiddling with.
Horizontally and even then, it is really only beyond 20 degrees off to the sides. Again, along with image retention for OLED's, viewing angles for VA panels is the other false fear created I think. There is definitely a degradation of color off angle. I would say VA becomes an issue if you plan to have a 75" with sofas and sectionals on the side, those viewers will see an inferior image. But the contrast and black levels more important.
Your head being a little below the television or even lying down and it mounted high should be a non-factor.
On mine, the slight washing-out of the picture happens more at extreme horizontal angles than vertical. Even at its worst, it's more of a "I know the blacks/colors should be better than this" than a "what is happening onscreen, my TV must be dying?" change in picture quality.
Definitely worse than plasma or OLED, where the off-angle viewing is completely unchanged, but I doubt it would be an issue in typical usage.
My setup is: OLED HDMI2 (because that's the one that supports ARC) -> receiver-> Apple TV, Xbox One X, PS4 and Switch.
I set up picture modes for these situations:
ISF Bright: SDR video content
Game: SDR gaming
HDR Technicolor Expert: HDR video content
HDR Game: HDR gaming
Dolby Vision Cinema: Dolby Vision content
So yea, I spent time setting up six modes, but I don't switch around a ton. SDR Gaming on Switch, PS4 and X1X means that when I play a regular game on any of those, I switch the TV to Game Mode (or HDR Game depending on the game). Anytime I'm watching SDR, I switch to ISF Bright.
I guess if I went from playing Cuphead to then watching Black Mirror (4K but no HDR or DV) to then playing Horizon Zero Dawn before watching Stranger Things 2 and finally The Grand Tour, I'd be toggling the picture modes a lot. BUT, if you don't mind input lag, you could just setup one general SDR mode and one general HDR mode, and the TV will automatically apply the appropriate setting without you needing to switch manually.
It's the one that does some picture quality improvements, there is video on HDTVTest youtube channel.
I too have a 2016 model and have zero issues with receiver caused HDR banding.
Dave, is the TV HDMI the receiver is connected to set to PC Mode? The PC input on the LG B7/C7 has terrible HDR color banding, regardless of source.
Fixed the weird Overwatch overly dark image by adjusting the ingame gamma. Didn't think it would make a difference at first but just moving it up drastically brighten up the shadows so it looks more like it did on my Vizio. The default settings are pretty awful on OLED.
Sounds like you have a black level mismatch in your settings
Overwatch is fine at default on my b7
In your tv's settings menu, if your black level is set to low, change it to high, or vice versa. The only reason you would be losing shadow detail is if you are crushing blacks due to this setting being wrong. The type of TV doesn't affect something like that.
I dunno, everything else looks good except Overwatch. Changing it to High makes it looks washed out. I'll test it next time I play OW but since I adjusted the in-game gamma on that, it looks fine now.
It looks washed out to you because youre used to blacks being crushed, which makes the image more contrasty, but it is incorrect. If you are having to adjust in game gamma like that, your black level setting is wrong. Put on anything with a bunch of shadows/a dark scene and change the black level back and forth. You will see that you lose detail bevause your TV is rendering near black as strsight up black. The proper black level will look "washed out" compared to the crushed blacks, but it only seems that way because youre comparing proper black levels to an overly darkened black crushed image.
Hey guys, a little ontopic question but really not super relevant to what this discussion is about I suppose.
I want to get my bro a new TV. He currently has a toshiba LED model 24L4200U. A 24inch LED from 2012.
His tv always look "grody" to me. Never looks sharp.
So I went to Bestbuy and they had some 24inch Insignia for a really good price. The picture looked good on the screens from what I can tell.
They are 720p TV's, and I researched my brothers and his is apparently 1080p. So these Insignia would be a downgrade then I guess? Is it possible a tv made in 2017 at 720p has better image quality than a tv at 1080p made in 2012?
Thanks guys.
I want to get my bro a new TV. He currently has a toshiba LED model 24L4200U. A 24inch LED from 2012.
His tv always look "grody" to me. Never looks sharp.
So I went to Bestbuy and they had some 24inch Insignia for a really good price. The picture looked good on the screens from what I can tell.
They are 720p TV's, and I researched my brothers and his is apparently 1080p. So these Insignia would be a downgrade then I guess? Is it possible a tv made in 2017 at 720p has better image quality than a tv at 1080p made in 2012?
Thanks guys.
Alright, I set it to High. Guess I'll need to get used to it.
Thanks for the advice.
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