Let's Talk About Skin Care

catberry · Dec 12, 2017

Lethal said:
Is Korean stuff good? They sell it everywhere here.

What's a good pore care cream?

It's way better than Western stuff :D
The Mizon AHA 8% serum is their version of Paula's Choice.

Vitamin C serums are good for pores. TONYMOLY have a pore lotion that I've heard good things about. Innisfree Jeju Volcanic Pore Clay mask is a nice once a week mask.
I know there are large pore-specific creams in K-beauty, but I've never tried them myself as it's not something I have issues with personally. I think you could definitely just go in store and see for yourself, ask what's popular :)

Pores can also suffer if you over-exfoliate, so make sure you're not exfoliating more than you should be.

Toiletduck · Dec 12, 2017

Oynox said:
Where do you live?

Location is not a factor, nor are seasons or other weather conditions like rain, snow, etc. UV rays go through clouds.

In fact, it could be even worse in the winter, as UV rays can bounce off snow, etc.

Lady Murasaki · Dec 12, 2017

catberry said:
So tabris, how rich are you exactly?

I can't really afford spa, unless it's a groupon, but the ones on groupon tend to be .... worse than the stuff I can get and do at home, but mostly just for the relaxation of having someone else do it for you, I suppose. A pamper.
I personally use a body shop gentle scrub with hazelnut oil for my body, I love the smell and the fact that it's not super harsh and leaves the body feeling moisturised. I wouldn't recommend it for oily skin types though, it's a bit too heavy for that, but perfect for dry skin.

Then I use a moisturising shea butter body milk or sometimes argan body oil, depends on the season. Argan oil for the winter. There's a nice spray-on one from Palmers.

I am very picky about body brushes and scrubs though. I have an organic series of brushes and scrub gloves from a local spa centre.

Eh, about spas, my profile is also similar to yours - can't really afford a luxury one. Your choices are awesome, tho, taking notes - I just love Body Shop.

Also, I never seen it here in my country, and maybe you can inform me since you live in the UK [witch hazel isn't a thing ingredient here], but what's up with the craze for that classic "Thayers Facial Toner, Original Witch Hazel, Aloe Vera Formula"? It is really that good? I was wondering if it was worth import some to try.

Toiletduck · Dec 12, 2017

Lady Murasaki said:
Do you think that the rose hip oil is worth a long term use? I have been using it for almost a month now, and even though I feel it gave me a nice moisture and brightness I didn't see the 'miraculous' effects I've seen preached all over the internet lol But I am open to use it more regularly if it helps me with my newborn fine lines </3

I do. Rose hip seed oil has vitamin a and omegas, including other antioxidants. It's brilliant for skin, but it could take months before you see a difference in your skin, depending what you're targeting. I'm targeting moisture, and the effects are immediate.

catberry · Dec 12, 2017

Lady Murasaki said:
Eh, about spas, my profile is also similar to yours - can't really afford a luxury one. Your choices are awesome, tho, taking notes - I just love Body Shop.

Also, I never seen it here in my country, and maybe you can inform me since you live in the UK [witch hazel isn't a thing ingredient here], but what's up with the craze for that classic "Thayers Facial Toner, Original Witch Hazel, Aloe Vera Formula"? It is really that good? I was wondering if it was worth import some to try.

That's a bit of an old trend? I can't really comment on witch hazel because my skin cannot tolerate it - it's too drying.
I'd take a bit to put it over a pimple or something, I used to do the same with tea tree oil, I think they're quite similar in that aspect, but I really stopped doing that all together as my skin does not react well to drying agents.

Lady Murasaki · Dec 12, 2017

catberry said:
That's a bit of an old trend? I can't really comment on witch hazel because my skin cannot tolerate it - it's too drying.
I'd take a bit to put it over a pimple or something, I used to do the same with tea tree oil, I think they're quite similar in that aspect, but I really stopped doing that all together as my skin does not react well to drying agents.

Thanks a lot! I am more cautions with these trends and hyped products [it is a bit old one, indeed] specially with western products. Considering your opinion on it there is no point in me going after it - tea tree oil [I use a few drops in my oil blend] is already working great for me.

AMAGON · Dec 12, 2017

Any recommendations for oily skin on the forehead and nose that doesn't seem to ever go away.

Oynox · Dec 12, 2017

catberry said:
I'll sound like a broken record now, but it really is not a factor.
Even if you live in Iceland, you should be using sunscreen daily. I like in the UK and do it every day, winter including. The benefits are too great and the fact that you do not see the sun doesn't mean it's not there and damaging your skin over time.

Toiletduck said:
Location is not a factor, nor are seasons or other weather conditions like rain, snow, etc. UV rays go through clouds.

In fact, it could be even worse in the winter, as UV rays can bounce off snow, etc.

Looking at the UV index, it may be a factor. I would believe it is a difference to be exposed to an UV level of 11 in brasil or an UV level of 1 in Germany.

However, I see where you are coming from and did not want to argue about the usefulness of sunscreen. I will consider incorporating it into my daily routine because of my finding here, so, thank you.

I asked just out of curiosity, because here in Germany sunscreen is not popular at all. I never heard of anybody around me who uses sunscreen in their daily routine. It is a only a summer thing and it is marketed that way as well. I just looked at two brand I consider using in the future and they each had only one product with an SPF in their line. For example, visiting the international version of La Roche Posay lists a SPF product visible on the main page. Visiting the German website, even if you scroll through the featured products, nothing.

It is strange that sunscreen supposedly is an important part of daily routine regardless of your exposition to UV waves, but in some countries it is not as prevalent. It is great that it is in countries which are highly exposed (like Brazil), but as I said, I never heard about anyone implementing it in their daily routine, neither in Germany, Finland or Sweden, which is questionable, apparently. Now I do know at least one person using it in the UK which is at least something.

Toiletduck · Dec 12, 2017

Oynox said:
Looking at the UV index, it may be a factor. I would believe it is a difference to be exposed to an UV level of 11 in brasil or an UV level of 1 in Germany.

However, I see where you are coming from and did not want to argue about the usefulness of sunscreen. I will consider incorporating it into my daily routine because of my finding here, so, thank you.

I asked just out of curiosity, because here in Germany sunscreen is not popular at all. I never heard of anybody around me who uses sunscreen in their daily routine. It is a only a summer thing and it is marketed that way as well. I just looked at two brand I consider using in the future and they each had only one product with an SPF in their line. For example, visiting the international version of La Roche Posay lists a SPF product visible on the main page. Visiting the German website, even if you scroll through the featured products, nothing.

It is strange that sunscreen supposedly is an important part of daily routine regardless of your exposition to UV waves, but in some countries it is not as prevalent. It is great that it is in countries which are highly exposed (like Brazil), but as I said, I never heard about anyone implementing it in their daily routine, neither in Germany, Finland or Sweden, which is questionable, apparently. Now I do know at least one person using it in the UK which is at least something.

Yes, I agree that it's important to keep in mind the UV index. Even if it's low, however, and especially if you're using actives, it's important to use sunscreen. The thing that many people don't realize is that sunscreen, like antioxidants in skincare, are for long-term benefits. You won't see immediate results, nor will you see any if you use therm sporadically or inconsistently.

If the UV index is high, it means you should reapply your sunscreen product more often throughout the day.

catberry · Dec 12, 2017

Toiletduck said:
Yes, I agree that it's important to keep in mind the UV index. Even if it's low, however, and especially if you're using actives, it's important to use sunscreen. The thing that many people don't realize is that sunscreen, like antioxidants in skincare, are for long-term benefits. You won't see immediate results, nor will you see any if you use therm sporadically or inconsistently.

If the UV index is high, it means you should reapply your sunscreen product more often throughout the day.

I haven't really done this, but I know the sunscreen generally loses it's UV protection in approximately 2 hours.
Most Korean shows I've seen say that you have to re-apply every 2 hours, which is too excessive for a lazy person like myself, but I can definitely see the benefit. It is also possible to apply a little bit on your hands and tap your face, in order to reapply without ruining your makeup. They also have these UV mists for summer, which I'd consider getting.

Lady Murasaki · Dec 12, 2017

Oynox said:
Looking at the UV index, it may be a factor. I would believe it is a difference to be exposed to an UV level of 11 in brasil or an UV level of 1 in Germany.

However, I see where you are coming from and did not want to argue about the usefulness of sunscreen. I will consider incorporating it into my daily routine because of my finding here, so, thank you.

I asked just out of curiosity, because here in Germany sunscreen is not popular at all. I never heard of anybody around me who uses sunscreen in their daily routine. It is a only a summer thing and it is marketed that way as well. I just looked at two brand I consider using in the future and they each had only one product with an SPF in their line. For example, visiting the international version of La Roche Posay lists a SPF product visible on the main page. Visiting the German website, even if you scroll through the featured products, nothing.

It is strange that sunscreen supposedly is an important part of daily routine regardless of your exposition to UV waves, but in some countries it is not as prevalent. It is great that it is in countries which are highly exposed (like Brazil), but as I said, I never heard about anyone implementing it in their daily routine, neither in Germany, Finland or Sweden, which is questionable, apparently. Now I do know at least one person using it in the UK which is at least something.

I think you made a little of confusion - I come from Brazil, but it was catberry who was recommending the sunscreen use even in locations with lower UV index. I totally agree with them, btw.

But if you indeed was referring to me in this post, I also asked out of curiosity - it is interesting to know these little funny cultural differences. But no intention in piss you off, and if I did, I apologize! Peace! :)

Toiletduck · Dec 12, 2017

catberry said:
I haven't really done this, but I know the sunscreen generally loses it's UV protection in approximately 2 hours.
Most Korean shows I've seen say that you have to re-apply every 2 hours, which is too excessive for a lazy person like myself, but I can definitely see the benefit. It is also possible to apply a little bit on your hands and tap your face, in order to reapply without ruining your makeup. They also have these UV mists for summer, which I'd consider getting.

The reapplication process is quite tricky, I agree. This is one of the reasons why I have a separate antioxidant serum in my routine--to help strengthen and prolong my sunscreen, which is SPF 50. I think a higher SPF will also help prolong the effects.

TheBeardedOne · Dec 12, 2017

I don't know if I've asked this before, but what would you folks recommend out of: Working Hands, Vaseline Skin Repair and Glysomed for hand cream? My Mom always used Glysomed, so I grew up using that and still do, but I have bought the others in the past, or been gifted them.

I wash my hands too often, always have. So my skin gets dry, especially in the wintertime, and sometimes my fingers crack at the tips. I used to get really red and dry hands in the winter, then they'd crack in many places and hurt.

Toiletduck · Dec 12, 2017

TheBeardedOne said:
I don't know if I've asked this before, but what would you folks recommend out of: Working Hands, Vaseline Skin Repair and Glysomed for hand cream? My Mom always used Glysomed, so I grew up using that and still do, but I have bought the others in the past, or been gifted them.

I wash my hands too often, always have. So my skin gets dry, especially in the wintertime, and sometimes my fingers crack at the tips. I used to get really red and dry hands in the winter, then they'd crack in many places and hurt.

If I were in your shoes I'd probably apply argan oil or marula oil on my cuticles and use a good hand cream after each wash. When your hands are back to normal, perhaps limit the application to twice a day. I'm a big fan of Deciem and their brand The Chemistry Brand. They have fantastic hand cream products.

catberry · Dec 12, 2017

TheBeardedOne said:
I don't know if I've asked this before, but what would you folks recommend out of: Working Hands, Vaseline Skin Repair and Glysomed for hand cream? My Mom always used Glysomed, so I grew up using that and still do, but I have bought the others in the past, or been gifted them.

I wash my hands too often, always have. So my skin gets dry, especially in the wintertime, and sometimes my fingers crack at the tips. I used to get really red and dry hands in the winter, then they'd crack in many places and hurt.

I am really not too familiar with these, but I've heard great things about Working Hands from nurses, so I would take that. :D

RoyalJCC · Dec 12, 2017

haveheart said:
I'm still looking for a decent moisturizer for oily, acne-prone skin. Any recommendations? I've always got the feeling that I'm clogging my pores with cremes, I guess gels are the right thing in my case anyway.

My problem is that my skin gets oily very quickly but after washing it, even with stuff like Paulas Choice or things specifically for oily skin, non drying, my skin is really, really dry. I have no idea how to balance this...

I've been using Loreal Men Expert Pure Power moisturiser with Salicylic Acid and has been working really well.

My acne is going away - I've been using Clearasil Ultra face wash, Clean and Clear Toner and Loreal Men Exert Pure Power moisturiser. For some really big pimples that I want gone in a couple of days I just use this.

I'm afraid too much salicylic acid is bad and the Clearasil face wash has SLS. But it's been working.

RandomDazed · Dec 12, 2017

Hey all, a little background. I'm in my mid 30's and a few years ago i developed acne-rosacea. It's sort of on a small patch in the middle of my forehead and my cheeks.

Now after a little googling and going to the doctors, i found it can get REALLY bad. Thankfully, it's not so bad for me, I get a little red. More so when i have to much dairy (so i try to limit that). otherwise, no info on why it appeared. Just one of those things maybe.

I only wash my face with water in the shower and i use a moisturiser after.

Is there anything i can do to help my self?

Sorry if i sound stupid here, i really know nothing about this. I've only really started using a moisturiser in the last few years!

Any help appreciated :)

Felt · Dec 12, 2017

I just saw this thread for the first time. Why is masturbation grouped with smoking and drinking in the OP? That seems ridiculous.

IHaveIce · Dec 12, 2017

Found the thread and immediately put it on watched.
Great OP, sorry that I couldn't read 10 pages or so, but are there some tips against eyebags for men? I seem to have them naturally and no amount of sleep or water seems to help?

Pet · Dec 12, 2017

Lady Murasaki said:
Could you explain the difference of a sleeping pack and a regular moisturizer and a night cream? I read a lot about it, but I am not sure if one replaces the other. And also, when you wear a facial oil? Always?

I can recommend you Sulwhasoo, it is working well for me. I am using their Essential Firming Cream as an eye cream and it brightened my eye area quite a lot, made my little lines softer and reduced the puffiness around the eyes [but it also have a herby smell, in case you don't like it].

Thanks! For me it was between La Mer eye balm intense/sulhwasoo Concentrated Ginseng Renewing Eye Cream. Both are about the same price, so I'd prefer the more effective one. Smell is not an issue.

I don't wear a facial oil, and other people have explained the sleeping pack to you but I personally only use it when I use retinol that evening because even a night cream might not be enough to fight retinol dryness. In the summer I use a regular moisturizer and in the winter I use a night cream.

catberry said:
I love that SU:M37 Rose cleansing stick!

Also a sleeping pack is a heavy duty moisturiser with more staying power. It's not used during the day because it stays on long and works on your face longer. For example, I absolutely love the laneige lip sleeping mask, I put it on before bed, then it's still on in the morning and then I just exfoliate it from my lips and they are PERFECT. :D

When you're rinsing your face in the morning as well, you will feel the sleeping pack on your face. It's kind of like an overnight mask, rather than a moisturiser. I also put one after I've done my whole routine, moisturiser including. But I have really dry skin.

The Laneige lip sleeping mask made me break out around my mouth! D:. But their regular sleeping mask is okay, a little itchy at times though :(.

catberry said:
It's way better than Western stuff :D
The Mizon AHA 8% serum is their version of Paula's Choice.

Vitamin C serums are good for pores. TONYMOLY have a pore lotion that I've heard good things about. Innisfree Jeju Volcanic Pore Clay mask is a nice once a week mask.
I know there are large pore-specific creams in K-beauty, but I've never tried them myself as it's not something I have issues with personally. I think you could definitely just go in store and see for yourself, ask what's popular :)

Pores can also suffer if you over-exfoliate, so make sure you're not exfoliating more than you should be.

Re: TonyMoly Vit C and Pore Mask...

Do you know anything about kiehl's rare earth mask as opposed to Innisfree?
Also, I was going to get dr. brandt skincare vitamin c, but is Tonymoly comparable? Their panda sleeping mask made my face itch SOOOOO much.

Felt said:
I just saw this thread for the first time. Why is masturbation grouped with smoking and drinking in the OP? That seems ridiculous.

No idea. I haven't seen LL around in awhile.

catberry · Dec 13, 2017

Pet said:
Thanks! For me it was between La Mer eye balm intense/sulhwasoo Concentrated Ginseng Renewing Eye Cream. Both are about the same price, so I'd prefer the more effective one. Smell is not an issue.

I don't wear a facial oil, and other people have explained the sleeping pack to you but I personally only use it when I use retinol that evening because even a night cream might not be enough to fight retinol dryness. In the summer I use a regular moisturizer and in the winter I use a night cream.

The Laneige lip sleeping mask made me break out around my mouth! D:. But their regular sleeping mask is okay, a little itchy at times though :(.

Re: TonyMoly Vit C and Pore Mask...

Do you know anything about kiehl's rare earth mask as opposed to Innisfree?
Also, I was going to get dr. brandt skincare vitamin c, but is Tonymoly comparable? Their panda sleeping mask made my face itch SOOOOO much.

I am the exact opposite! Kiehl's stuff makes me break out and it feels too heavy on my skin - doesn't absorb at all. Innisfree is up there in my top 3 favourite brands, so...
Also the price difference usually helps my decision as well. Also Innisfree's top product is that clay mask, it's literally what made them so famous in the last year, so I recon it's pretty good. I use it weekly in the summer. If you're not too sure and don't want to commit to a full package, they have the small capsules with masks too and you can get that to test it out. It's enough for 2-3 uses.

Lady Murasaki · Dec 13, 2017

Anyone tried the Neutrogena Hydro Boost moisturizer? Is it good? I am interested on it, but I wonder if it has a nice % of hyaluronic acid.

I also found this review... If it is as good as Belif's it would be a deal.

http://www.cremescometrue.com/neutrogena-hydro-boost-water-gel-review/

Sesha · Dec 13, 2017

I'm curious about eye gels. I have large dark areas beneath my eyes, as well as greyish areas under and around the ridges and on the eyelids, because of a decade of sleep troubles. I'd like to alleviate as much as I can, now that I'm finally sleeping normally. Any recommendations? My skin is very sensitive, and becomes irritated very easily, so anything that's even remotely irritating is a no-go.

RoyalJCC · Dec 13, 2017

catberry I've made the argan oil + hair conditioner mask and put it for 20-30 minutes. The hair feels so much softer and I can see it has less frizz (but not totally gone). I'm going to start doing this 2 times a week and see how it goes.

Has anyone tried The Ordinary? I'm looking into this Lipoic Acid and would like to hear some opinions. Is it something an oily skin person can use?

Turtleboats · Dec 13, 2017

Vitamin C + Hyraulic Acid + Vitamin E + Aloe

The only lotion I will ever need. Stuff is magic!

Deleted member 23091 · Dec 13, 2017

I'm having breakouts on the jawline, it seems to get worse during winter, I live in Canada. I think I might not be getting enough vitamin D. Anyone here takes vitamin D and see a difference?

I'm not sure what to eat anymore, I eat fairly healthy, but some people say that nuts and certain fruits can cause acne.

Svadhyaya · Dec 13, 2017

What exfoliant is everyone using? I use Jack Black Face Buff w/energizing scrub

brokenmachine · Dec 13, 2017

Svadhyaya said:
What exfoliant is everyone using? I use Jack Black Face Buff w/energizing scrub

I've been using Paula's Choice 2% Liquid BHA for chemical exfoliation. I only use two drops every day and it's kicking my ass.

Hopefully the purging subsides in a couple more weeks. Don't wanna have to deal with that anymore/

FactOrFiction · Dec 13, 2017

I'm a 30 year old guy. Maybe I'm stupid or something but I've never used any of the stuff the OP talks about. Just clean water in the morning after waking up and like 3 times a year I need some Nivea lotion or something like that when I have dry skin, when fall arrives or winter.

Am I missing something? I always think (maybe it's wrong I have no idea) that if you don't have severe problems with your skin why would you plaster stuff in your face that you most probably don't need? Are the people today so afraid of ageing? I don't want to offend anyone I'm just curious. Maybe this is a topic just for women, as I haven't read the whole op.

Pet · Dec 13, 2017

FactOrFiction said:
I'm a 30 year old guy. Maybe I'm stupid or something but I've never used any of the stuff the OP talks about. Just clean water in the morning after waking up and like 3 times a year I need some Nivea lotion or something like that when I have dry skin, when fall arrives or winter.

Am I missing something? I always think (maybe it's wrong I have no idea) that if you don't have severe problems with your skin why would you plaster stuff in your face that you most probably don't need? Are the people today so afraid of ageing? I don't want to offend anyone I'm just curious. Maybe this is a topic just for women, as I haven't read the whole op.

It's preservation.

It's not just a chick thing, though I wager women are more sensitive to aging due to the emphasis on our youth as beauty. Men don't really suffer the same way (see: last fuckable day, Hollywood, etc)

If you've ever wondered why so many Asian women look so much younger than they are, it's because they take extremely good care of their skin.

Stop Motion Pornography · Dec 13, 2017

I'm lucky that my skin looks pretty good with just the basics- cleanse, exercise, lots of water- but I'm prone to skin infections like no other. Ring worm because I work out a lot, and bacterial infections like staph and impetigo. Is there something reliable to take to just overall boost my skin's immune system?

Comic Obsessed · Dec 13, 2017

Good thread. I'm in my early 30s but I have been using skin care since basically my early 20s and I look relatively young for my age but I was wondering what were the best products to avoid wrinkles? I live in Peru and many skin care products sadly don't arrive here.

I was also wondering if it was necessary to go to a spa considering that I take care of my skin basically every day.

Airegin · Dec 13, 2017

Toiletduck said:
The reapplication process is quite tricky, I agree. This is one of the reasons why I have a separate antioxidant serum in my routine--to help strengthen and prolong my sunscreen, which is SPF 50. I think a higher SPF will also help prolong the effects.

I really don't believe reapplying is necessary in cloudy weather when you're mostly indoors. Sunscreen lasts all day with little sun exposure and no sweating. Also, 50spf isn't necessarily better than 30spf. Chemicals in sunscreen break down into skin-damaging free radicals when exposed to sunlight. So I wouldn't reapply too often or use the highest strength which contains more chemicals with very minimal added benefits.

As for my own skincare, I've been using vitamin C serum, retinaldehyde and niacinamide and noticed a significant reduction in premature wrinkles and dark eye circles after 3 months.

Phonzo · Dec 13, 2017

Felt said:
I just saw this thread for the first time. Why is masturbation grouped with smoking and drinking in the OP? That seems ridiculous.

I dont know the science behind it, but masturbation accelerates breakout with the quickness. Maybe someone can fill us in as to why.

Wag · Dec 13, 2017

I don't know what's going on with me but I'm all broken out all over my legs (and somewhat on my arms). I'm 49 and it hasn't been this bad since I was a teenager. I have scabs all over my legs.

On top of that my psoriasis is really bad now. All over my elbows and knees, on one spot on my hand, even on my nipples (very itchy). If I could bathe in Eucerin I would. The cream works pretty well, I might pick up the soap but it's expensive.

catberry · Dec 14, 2017

RoyalJCC said:
catberry I've made the argan oil + hair conditioner mask and put it for 20-30 minutes. The hair feels so much softer and I can see it has less frizz (but not totally gone). I'm going to start doing this 2 times a week and see how it goes.

Has anyone tried The Ordinary? I'm looking into this Lipoic Acid and would like to hear some opinions. Is it something an oily skin person can use?

Ah glad to hear it! Yeah, see how that goes :D

Lady Murasaki · Dec 14, 2017

C-Sword said:
I'm having breakouts on the jawline, it seems to get worse during winter, I live in Canada. I think I might not be getting enough vitamin D. Anyone here takes vitamin D and see a difference?

I'm not sure what to eat anymore, I eat fairly healthy, but some people say that nuts and certain fruits can cause acne.

I had [probably still have] a vitamin D deficiency [mainly because I hate the sun] and I was experience more hair loss than would be normal. The doctor prescribed me vitamin D and the it got a lot better, the hair loss fell like 70%. I also take other vitamins now, and it is great for disposition too.

But especially vitamin D, you must take some sunbaths if you want its full effect.

Also, anyone ever tried using vitamins in oily vehicles on the face? It is bit on a trend in YouTube [at least here], using vitamins meant for oral use in oils like peanut oil as a face oil [vitamin A and D].

catberry · Dec 14, 2017

Sesha said:
I'm curious about eye gels. I have large dark areas beneath my eyes, as well as greyish areas under and around the ridges and on the eyelids, because of a decade of sleep troubles. I'd like to alleviate as much as I can, now that I'm finally sleeping normally. Any recommendations? My skin is very sensitive, and becomes irritated very easily, so anything that's even remotely irritating is a no-go.

I recommended the Berrisom Placenta Firming Gel Eye Patch to another person earlier in the thread. I've heard great things about them, I'd like to see what they think as well :)

C-Sword said:
I'm having breakouts on the jawline, it seems to get worse during winter, I live in Canada. I think I might not be getting enough vitamin D. Anyone here takes vitamin D and see a difference?

I'm not sure what to eat anymore, I eat fairly healthy, but some people say that nuts and certain fruits can cause acne.

I live in the UK and I take Vitamin D, Zinc and B-complex every day. I've seen great improvement in my overall health. If you can though, I would recommend consulting with a doctor/blood test first to see what you need the most and interpret that in a daily dose. Multivitamins don't work because most ingredients cancel themselves out and your system doesn't absorb it as well.

FactOrFiction said:
I'm a 30 year old guy. Maybe I'm stupid or something but I've never used any of the stuff the OP talks about. Just clean water in the morning after waking up and like 3 times a year I need some Nivea lotion or something like that when I have dry skin, when fall arrives or winter.

Am I missing something? I always think (maybe it's wrong I have no idea) that if you don't have severe problems with your skin why would you plaster stuff in your face that you most probably don't need? Are the people today so afraid of ageing? I don't want to offend anyone I'm just curious. Maybe this is a topic just for women, as I haven't read the whole op.

I personally think it's a cultural thing. It's pretty much as common as flushing after you use the toilet in most Asian countries. Everyone does it. For general healthy skin purposes, keeping your skin looking healthy, some for wrinkle care. The overall misconception I've found in Western cultures is that people think skincare is something you do after you get shit on your skin. It's not. Skincare is something you do to prevent if from happening. There's no cream or magic cure for that pimple you got or that dry skin you got that you use once and BAM it's gone. That's not how skincare works. It's a daily routine to help improve your skin, like a diet, but for your skin. Especially with all the pollution in the air and shit food we eat, I think it's just general health thing.

Pet said:
It's preservation.

It's not just a chick thing, though I wager women are more sensitive to aging due to the emphasis on our youth as beauty. Men don't really suffer the same way (see: last fuckable day, Hollywood, etc)

If you've ever wondered why so many Asian women look so much younger than they are, it's because they take extremely good care of their skin.

This. I don't think there is any difference between men's skin and women's skin. It's just a matter of cultural perspective and social norms.

tabris · Dec 14, 2017

Eye cream won't solve dark circles around your eyes. Just getting better sleep, apply cucumber slices/chilled tea bags, or cold eye masks in the morning.

Eye cream mainly focuses on reducing / preventing ageing lines and brightening the area - which I guess reduces a bit of the darkness but doesn't remove the puffiness which is solved using the above.

You may need to use a bit of makeup to really hide it until you keep working on getting puffiness down.

catberry · Dec 14, 2017

tabris said:
Eye cream won't solve dark circles around your eyes. Just getting better sleep, apply cucumber slices/chilled tea bags, or cold eye masks in the morning.

Eye cream mainly focuses on reducing / preventing ageing lines and brightening the area - which I guess reduces a bit of the darkness but doesn't remove the puffiness which is solved using the above.

You may need to use a bit of makeup to really hide it until you keep working on getting puffiness down.

Actually. I've seen otherwise. I can't testify for it myself as I've never had problems with my undereye area, but I've seen for the berrisom patches specifically reviews like this:
https://fiftyshadesofsnail.com/2015/06/04/review-berrisom-placenta-firming-hydro-gel-eye-patch/

"Immediately after use, my eye area always feels nicely hydrated and plumped, but not wet or sticky. With most masks like these, the plumping effect will fade after a few hours, but with the Berrisom Placenta Firming Hydro Gel Eye Patches, I've noticed actual, lasting results. I have one somewhat deep smile line at the outer corner of each eye–a crow's foot–as well as a few more shallow fine line warning signs. Regular use of these masks has already smoothed out the big line quite a bit and rendered the little lines almost invisible, and that's not an effect that is gone by the end of the day. My eye area remains smooth even the next morning and even when I'm a little dehydrated. I was pretty amazed about a week ago when I noticed those improvements. I attribute the firming and smoothing both to the extra hydration and to the adenosine in the serum. My super clingy upper cheekbone sunspots, meanwhile, are lightening up, most likely due to the daily dose of arbutin."

http://www.wishtrend.com/christmas-...nta-firming-hydro-gel-eye-patch-berrisom.html
"concerned wtih a darkened area" is in the official statement of what the product does.

I've seen some photos around facebook of people's before and after use of under eye patches and a lot of them look lighter and a lot less puffier, but it is my understanding it's a limited effect, not permanent. Like a daily thing to just reduce the puffiness and darkness of the area for a few hours.

DSync · Dec 14, 2017

Hey Skin Care ERA

bout to get into this stuff i'm a 27 yr old male i've got in my amazon basket

CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser
Paula's choice 2% BHA Liquid Skin Perfecting
Olay Body Quench Body Lotion Ultra Moisture

shall i put these on in order? like wash face use CeraVe, then rinse put-on Paula's choice etc then Olay?

Sorry i'm new to this just want nice skin! i often get flaky skin on my head and around my nose!

Lady Murasaki · Dec 14, 2017

catberry just to let you know: I weirdly made amends with the Bioré Aqua Rich that I commented here that made me oily. It is working just wonders now, hydrating and not oily at all. Maybe I was using too much? Love the plump effect it gives my skin. Bioré sunscreens are the best!

Also thanks for your tips, they are helping me to improve my skin care routine a lot!

tabris · Dec 14, 2017

Remove those items. Get the following:

1) Corsx Low PH Good Morning Gel Cleanser - Use once when wake up once when you to bed
2) Corsx AHA/BHA Clarifying Toner - Use once at night
3) MISHA Super Aqua Renew Snail Cream - Use once when wake up once when you go to bed
4) Most important - Biore UV Aqua Rich SPF50+ Sunscreen. - Use once you wake up and about to head out

The moisturizer may be a bit too expensive but definitely don't use a body lotion on your face and foaming cleansers are known to ruin your PH levels.

tabris · Dec 14, 2017

catberry said:
I've seen some photos around facebook of people's before and after use of under eye patches and a lot of them look lighter and a lot less puffier, but it is my understanding it's a limited effect, not permanent. Like a daily thing to just reduce the puffiness and darkness of the area for a few hours.

Just the brightening element but as you mentioned not permanent. My Mizon Snail Eye Cream brightens rings around my eyes when I'm tired but it doesn't address the puffiness under it. Better to do steps I said if that's your big problem.

catberry · Dec 14, 2017

The_Endgame said:
Hey Skin Care ERA

bout to get into this stuff i'm a 27 yr old male i've got in my amazon basket

CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser
Paula's choice 2% BHA Liquid Skin Perfecting
Olay Body Quench Body Lotion Ultra Moisture

shall i put these on in order? like wash face use CeraVe, then rinse put-on Paula's choice etc then Olay?

Sorry i'm new to this just want nice skin! i often get flaky skin on my head and around my nose!

https://www.paulaschoice.co.uk/all-about-exfoliants/art-13.html

"
How to Exfoliate with AHA or BHA (and Get the Most Out of It)

Apply your AHA or BHA exfoliant after the cleanser and toner steps in your routine. If it's a liquid, apply it with a cotton pad; if a lotion or gel, apply it with your fingers.
You can use it around the eye area, but not on the eyelid or directly under the eye (along the lower lash line).
You don't need to wait for the BHA or AHA to absorb or dry; you can apply any other product in your routine—moisturizer, serum, eye cream, or sunscreen—immediately afterwards.
Experiment with different strengths of glycolic acid or salicylic acid to see which concentration gives you the best results.
How often you should exfoliate depends on your skin type and skin concerns. Some people do well exfoliating with AHA or BHA twice a day, whereas others find that once a day or every other day is a perfect balance. Test to see what works best for your skin.
Exfoliating with AHA or BHA from the neck down has great benefits as well. In particular, our RESIST Weightless Body Treatment with 2% BHA smooths the appearance of rough, red, hard, bumps on the arms and legs, and is even suitable for those with skin prone to keratosis pilaris.

"

Moisturizer is always your last step of the routine. You can use the exfoliator before. However, I personally would recommend waiting a bit before slapping the moisturizer on top. It really depends on your skin and how fast it absorbs. If it still feels all sticky and stuff, just wait a little bit longer and tap it dry with your hands, gently, until it absorbs and then proceed with moisturiser. I also wouldn't recommend using a cotton pad, as it's a waste of product and can cause more irritation than hands. I use all my skincare with my hands.

catberry · Dec 14, 2017

tabris said:
Remove those items. Get the following:

1) Corsx Low PH Good Morning Gel Cleanser - Use once when wake up once when you to bed
2) Corsx AHA/BHA Clarifying Toner - Use once at night
3) MISHA Super Aqua Renew Snail Cream - Use once when wake up once when you go to bed
4) Most important - Biore UV Aqua Rich SPF50+ Sunscreen. - Use once you wake up and about to head out

The moisturizer may be a bit too expensive but definitely don't use a body lotion on your face and foaming cleansers are known to ruin your PH levels.

I agree with this 100%. :D

Also, Missha expensive..? Where do you live tabris? It's like £15 here.

tabris · Dec 14, 2017

catberry said:
I agree with this 100%. :D

Also, Missha expensive..? Where do you live tabris? It's like £15 here.

Yeah that snail cream is like $35 US / $50 CDN here. Wasn't sure on his budget or location, just going based on amazon.

I'll be picking up a bunch when I'm back in Seoul, or at least we go to Tokyo once a year - so can pick up cheaper then.

catberry · Dec 14, 2017

tabris said:
Yeah that snail cream is like $35 US / $50 CDN here. Wasn't sure on his budget or location, just going based on amazon.

I'll be picking up a bunch when I'm back in Seoul, or at least we go to Tokyo once a year - so can pick up cheaper then.

Confirmed. Tabris is a millionaire.

I have plans to go to Seoul end of next year, already looking at ways to send myself a massive box of stuff from there to my home address lol.

meow · Dec 14, 2017

tabris said:
2) Corsx AHA/BHA Clarifying Toner - Use once at night

The cosrx toner supposedly doesn't have the proper amount of either type of acid for proper exfoliating properties. It's meant to be a prep step to adjust your skin's pH before using one of their (or some) other AHA/BHA products.

tabris · Dec 14, 2017

meow said:
The cosrx toner supposedly doesn't have the proper amount of either type of acid for proper exfoliating properties. It's meant to be a prep step to adjust your skin's pH before using one of their (or some) other AHA/BHA products.

Agreed, I just don't think he should jump into an AHA/BHA full exfoliant right away. Start with the basics, a good cleanser and a moisturizer.

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