That's very concerning. I hope this build's resolution is just the result of some really rough work in progress and not indicative of the final game, because I'm really looking forward to it.
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That's very concerning. I hope this build's resolution is just the result of some really rough work in progress and not indicative of the final game, because I'm really looking forward to it.
The icon layer is likely rendered at a higher res, the background is rendered internally at 1080p and upscaled.
Thank you Liabe! I knew that resolution was dangerously low, can't believe it's the same res as the Vita screen.
Checked in the Beta thread, seems like it's bugged out. Apparently if you force set your output to 1080p, the rendering resolution is much higher.
yeah HDR looks really good in MHW, it's a great fit for the diverse naturalistic environments and changing weather.
framerate isn't locked 30 in resolution mode but it's reasonably stable, while the framerate mode usually hovers around 50. the 1080p graphics-priority mode might be the best bet for locked 30, but i haven't tried it.
HDR isn't as impactful as I have found in some other games, but it is present, and it is always incredibly welcome. I will be so thankful when it becomes ubiquitous. Good job Capcpom.
I finally got to really play the beta (spent about 2 hours today).
For those interested, most of that was using resolution mode. In my experience, framerate seemed quite stable, even when I ended up with ~8 monsters and some fire effects on screen. Not 60 of course, but it was certainly up-to-par for someone like myself who isn't particularly bothered by lower framerates as long as they are somewhat consistent.
Also, as someone who gets motion sickness (hello Okami HD. Who decided you needed that dreadful motion blur?) I was also happy with the FOV, camera, lack of screen tearing, etc. So, whilst motion sickness is a pretty niche issue, if you are like me, I would say this game is a safe buy. Finally, I can stop pulling out my Wii-U for MH3U.
And, back to Okami. Does anyone know if there is a motion blur toggle in the PC version? I have been waiting 10 years to be able to play that game without vomiting. It seems that the PS4 version still has it, so I am thinking it might be hardcoded at this point.
yeah it's not exactly wipeout zone mode, but it works perfectly for MHW's color palette and visual style. everything looks incredibly natural, as it should — it reminds me more of gran turismo's implementation.
It has HDR. I do hope they lock the res mode to 30fps in the final release.
That's weird. Not sure what they need to dedicate the extra RAM for the UI. Just render the UI at 1080p completely and let developers use that extra RAM for games. Even the Xbox 1 X doesn't bother with it and does a 1080p UI. I don't think anyone cares or would notice just the system level interface being 1080p.
It might not make a game-changing difference, but freeing up an extra 512 MB would only benefit developers.
Sauce:
https://wccftech.com/crytek-ps4-pro-ram-substantial/
ahhh okay.
does anyone know how long the $350 sale will last?
edit, seems like until the 16th
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Icon layer isn't likely taking any additional significant resources at higher res. Background is always 1080p, regardless.
m0dus , while you're here, can I get confirmation that downsampling is an inherent part of the OS?
i.e. If a game is rendering above 1080p on PS4 Pro, it will automatically downsample, unless the developer specifically intercepts that and disables the downsampling?
Or does it work differently to that?
Thanks so much!
Agreed. And it's not like the OS UI experience isn't poor enough already. I played Battlefield 1 on the Pro for a few hours and when I finally went into the dashboard it was damned near dying. The response time was multiple seconds and when my actions finally took, the UI lagged all over. It took 15 seconds before the UI was fully operational again.
In other words, it's not like your proposed change would make the UI worse. :P
When that happens, which is rare, I 'Rebuild Database'. Smooths everything right out for quite a while. Some recommend even doing it once a month to keep optimal.
You deserve it! This thread convinced me to get a Pro in the first place. You should have one too.
I fall into both those categories. I want the cinematic mode on a 1080p screen.
Edit: Referring to Shadow of the Colossus
Something very interesting caught my eye in the VGTech channel. Apparently Cod WW2 now has a patch on PS4 Pro (and base) which caps the cut-scenes to 30 FPS, which were previously unlocked and targeted 60 FPS.
Seems like a downgrade but there is now a huge resolution boost to those cut-scenes. More than double the total pixel count now. Since they're cut-scenes, frame rate shouldn't have that big of an impact but the much sharper visuals would pop out a lot more.
Game play is completely un-affected. No changes there.
From VGTech's video:
Seems like a downgrade but there is now a huge resolution boost to those cut-scenes. More than double the total pixel count now. Since they're cut-scenes, frame rate shouldn't have that big of an impact but the much sharper visuals would pop out a lot more.
Game play is completely un-affected. No changes there.
From VGTech's video:
The amount of games lacking PS4 Pro support (even first party) is precisely why I want graphical settings in every console game. At least let us brute force through the frame rate/resolution barrier when we have the hardware to do it.
Of course it'll never happen because it'll kill the "remaster" scene on consoles (which are generally resolution boosts and possibly a frame rate increase).
Of course it'll never happen because it'll kill the "remaster" scene on consoles (which are generally resolution boosts and possibly a frame rate increase).
I really don't like the frame pacing issues during the cut scenes. The hitching is very noticeable to me.
Some of the 3rd party support can be questionable at times, but I think Sony has been solid on supporting the Pro.
Hoping it gets fixed in the next patch. This change is a very surprise one to begin with. Who'd have thunk they'll make fundamental changes like this to the campaign, of all things, weeks after release.
Yeah if they fixed the hitching, that would be awesome. I also hope they iron out the dips seen while streaming in new assets. I don't recall past CoD titles experiencing that issue. Of course these problems are not on the Pro alone, so it seems to be more of an engine issue than anything hardware related.
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I've seen shots that do seem downsampled, but they were not direct comparisons and I have no way to tell if they're from the PC build.
For the high end, I've seen definite Pro shots that are native 4K (with what appears to be 2xMSAA).
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You may be right, but specifically mentioning "aliasing artifacts" suggests that's just comparing downsampled 1440p to native 1080p.It seems I was right:
Thanks! Future Tone is native 4K, I added it to the list when the patch released in Japan.
If no one else does it, I may be able to get some 1080p output screenshots next week to check for supersampling.
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If any Rocket League fans want downsampling, I'd ask you to upvote and perhaps comment on my post on their official Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeag...ease_implement_downsamplingsupersampling_for/
I initially posted it on their official support system, before being redirected to Facebook, before again being redirected to Reddit! :P
https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeag...ease_implement_downsamplingsupersampling_for/
I initially posted it on their official support system, before being redirected to Facebook, before again being redirected to Reddit! :P
If anyone is interested, here are some 4K screenshots from Hidden Agenda (Playlink title). I'm guessing 1440p.
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214mpr2p.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_2017121464ppw.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214fbrei.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214ulrg4.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214hnrn2.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_2017121443on7.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214wkp1q.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214mpr2p.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_2017121464ppw.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214fbrei.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214ulrg4.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214hnrn2.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_2017121443on7.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214wkp1q.png
If anyone is interested, here are some 4K screenshots from Hidden Agenda (Playlink title). I'm guessing 1440p.
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214mpr2p.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_2017121464ppw.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214fbrei.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214ulrg4.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214hnrn2.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_2017121443on7.png
https://abload.de/img/hiddenagenda_20171214wkp1q.png
Yeah I'm getting 1440p in my counts.
Not even close. It's unfair to even call it a full game, I finished it in 2 hours. The character models looks very much like their human counterparts but the game isn't nearly as fun or engaging to play as UD.
I'd say its more interesting to play as a group, simply because more people are involved. However, it is definitely not the same kind of single-player experience where friends can shout at you to make certain choices. Until Dawn, even on its own, is a fun time but Hidden Agenda is at it's best with a bunch of players.
I've tried to understand the legend of the tables by re-reading the FAQ a few times, but I'm still a bit confused on how to determine if I get any benefit from a PS4 Pro on a 1080P display.
If I'm understanding this, this one for Assassin's Creed Origins indicates that the Pro has dynamic 1800P. However, would I be correct in saying that if there is no symbol attached to the front that this game runs at dynamic 1800P on both 4K and 1080p displays (with the latter downsampling)?
It would be great to know, thanks!
If I'm understanding this, this one for Assassin's Creed Origins indicates that the Pro has dynamic 1800P. However, would I be correct in saying that if there is no symbol attached to the front that this game runs at dynamic 1800P on both 4K and 1080p displays (with the latter downsampling)?
It would be great to know, thanks!
I've tried to understand the legend of the tables by re-reading the FAQ a few times, but I'm still a bit confused on how to determine if I get any benefit from a PS4 Pro on a 1080P display.
If I'm understanding this, this one for Assassin's Creed Origins indicates that the Pro has dynamic 1800P. However, would I be correct in saying that if there is no symbol attached to the front that this game runs at dynamic 1800P on both 4K and 1080p displays (with the latter downsampling)?
It would be great to know, thanks!
Yeah I find it confusing as well. Would be preferable if there was a clear indication which games supported SS on full HD displays.
I've tried to understand the legend of the tables by re-reading the FAQ a few times, but I'm still a bit confused on how to determine if I get any benefit from a PS4 Pro on a 1080P display.
If I'm understanding this, this one for Assassin's Creed Origins indicates that the Pro has dynamic 1800P. However, would I be correct in saying that if there is no symbol attached to the front that this game runs at dynamic 1800P on both 4K and 1080p displays (with the latter downsampling)?
It would be great to know, thanks!
Games that don't downsample will have a red x next to the resolution EX: Dishonored 2
No red x means you get downsampling
I've tried to understand the legend of the tables by re-reading the FAQ a few times, but I'm still a bit confused on how to determine if I get any benefit from a PS4 Pro on a 1080P display.
If I'm understanding this, this one for Assassin's Creed Origins indicates that the Pro has dynamic 1800P. However, would I be correct in saying that if there is no symbol attached to the front that this game runs at dynamic 1800P on both 4K and 1080p displays (with the latter downsampling)?
It would be great to know, thanks!
Yes.