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Do you want open spoilers for new chapters in this thread?

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Stantastic

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hey guys, since StanleyPalmtree is not much of a help :glares at seru:

the moonlight boy is likely to be casca's son, right????? and casca's baby is NOT the imperfect egg (the egg at the conviction tower arc).... because that egg had a back story about growing up in a sewer and that egg became griffith's new flesh.

AM I RIGHT??

my friends are confusing meeeee help

bah! i said several times the the moon kid is Caskas baby. its not my fault there is literally an entire re-creation of the world muddying the waters.
 

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well my question was like... the kid looks like caska, not like griff or guts, so is the moonlight kid likely to be griff and caska's son cuz he's kinda magical?
 

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"Along with his mysterious Od, during their first encounter, Schierke additionally notices hostility within the Moonlight Boy – an emotion she states is no longer detectable upon their second encounter." <-- this is also interesting

My theory is that the moonlight kid is the part of griffith that is good that survived through his unholy union with Casca. Later repaired!Casca and Guts will look after this kid and he will be Luke Skywalker

:D??? too sugary?
 

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Moony Boy is almost certainly Guts and Casca's demon child, whose spirit merged with Griffith's at the 2nd Eclipse. I think Griffith himself is gone at this point - he froze his heart in order to become Femto and it's only through his association with the demon fetus that he feels anything for Guts and Casca at the Hill of Swords. I think Moony is understandably weary of Guts because, you know, he did try to murder him when he was the demon fetus on more than one occasion... But he also probably has enough power to be keeping tabs on his parents even when he can't take a physical form on the full moon, and has some idea of what they've gone through.

In any case, he'll definitely be instrumental to Femto's downfall.
 
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I just now noticed that Amazon is listing the English release of volume 39 for July 24th! You can pre-order it.

The official GuideBook is getting translated too apparently and it's coming March 27th! That's up for pre-order as well.
 
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I just now noticed that Amazon is listing the English release of volume 39 for July 24th! You can pre-order it.

The official GuideBook is getting translated too apparently and it's coming March 27th! That's up for pre-order as well.
Got them both pre-ordered booooiiiii
 
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Joker13

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i thought it was crystal clear the moonlight boy is casca's child the moment he first appeared

crazy thing is, he's probably both griffith and guts's child in some crazy fucked up way
 
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Got them both pre-ordered booooiiiii

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Moony Boy is almost certainly Guts and Casca's demon child, whose spirit merged with Griffith's at the 2nd Eclipse. I think Griffith himself is gone at this point - he froze his heart in order to become Femto and it's only through his association with the demon fetus that he feels anything for Guts and Casca at the Hill of Swords. I think Moony is understandably weary of Guts because, you know, he did try to murder him when he was the demon fetus on more than one occasion... But he also probably has enough power to be keeping tabs on his parents even when he can't take a physical form on the full moon, and has some idea of what they've gone through.

In any case, he'll definitely be instrumental to Femto's downfall.
ohhh ok

so i think my friend conflated demon fetus with the imperfect egg character

yeah, moony boy was demon fetus that somehow grew up and attain current form and he's kinda magical because of his conception, even though casca and guts are humans, maybe because he was conceived in the interstice/during the eclipse, he became somewhat not human.

and yea i agree he'll play an interesting part in femto's endgame arc
i thought it was crystal clear the moonlight boy is casca's child the moment he first appeared

crazy thing is, he's probably both griffith and guts's child in some crazy fucked up way

yeah > __ < probably > __ <
 

Run Goku

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i thought it was crystal clear the moonlight boy is casca's child the moment he first appeared

crazy thing is, he's probably both griffith and guts's child in some crazy fucked up way

If you've read the Dark Tower series, there are some interesting parallels
where a child conceived via demon rape has two fathers: the main hero and a main antagonist.
I don't know if these similarities would hold up under much scrutiny, but I'm always reminded of Mordred when thinking of this part of Berserk.
 
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I thought the moon child was the after effects of the Demon fetus and the egg behelit sacrificing itself to give birth to the new Griffith? Is there any reason to get the guide book? I also have up to vol 30 physically now.
 

HStallion

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i dunno, i think the Dog carrying the coffin makes it pretty clear that Caska knows and will appreciate what guts has been doing for her. beyond that i really have no clue how she will react.

Maybe I've been reading into things too much but the fact the dog looks like The Beast is not the most reassuring sign especially since Casca shouldn't know what The Beast is, let alone what it looks like.
 
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Maybe I've been reading into things too much but the fact the dog looks like The Beast is not the most reassuring sign especially since Casca shouldn't know what The Beast is, let alone what it looks like.
Maybe Casca in her current state has a window into Guts' subconscious. Or she can see astral states or some shit. I'm only thinking this because Casca doesn't wig out randomly or everybody. There must be some sort of threat detection reason for this.
 

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If you've read the Dark Tower series, there are some interesting parallels
where a child conceived via demon rape has two fathers: the main hero and a main antagonist.
I don't know if these similarities would hold up under much scrutiny, but I'm always reminded of Mordred when thinking of this part of Berserk.

im at book 3 of the dark tower series now~

I thought the moon child was the after effects of the Demon fetus and the egg behelit sacrificing itself to give birth to the new Griffith? Is there any reason to get the guide book? I also have up to vol 30 physically now.

no no i think the moonkid and the egg behelit things are two separate characters, jadey

The dog in Casca's mind doesn't look like the Beast at all.

ya, the dog looks like doberman and the beast? looks more like a jackal? (to me)
 
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I know they're not the same thing. I just thought the moon kid was one of the results of the egg behelit and demon fetus giving up their lives for Griffith since Griffith's new body came as a result of the egg behelit eating the demon fetus.
 

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I know they're not the same thing. I just thought the moon kid was one of the results of the egg behelit and demon fetus giving up their lives for Griffith since Griffith's new body came as a result of the egg behelit eating the demon fetus.

:thinking emoji:

......... yeah, i mean, that can be inferred i guess but it hasn't been spelled out in the manga, has it? but yea, i agree, it's possible that griff's return to the physical world had affected the demon fetus' growth
 
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Um....I thought specifically in the manga you saw the innards of the egg behelit turning into Griffith. With the innards of the egg behelit being the demon fetus that he ate. I just read that volume yesterday I think. And on that note the demon fetus was about to die and the egg behelit felt sorry for it and ate it.
 

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Um....I thought specifically in the manga you saw the innards of the egg behelit turning into Griffith. With the innards of the egg behelit being the demon fetus that he ate. I just read that volume yesterday I think. And on that note the demon fetus was about to die and the egg behelit felt sorry for it and ate it.
oh really?

im only up to the end of golden age now on my reread... i'll keep an eye out for the conviction arc when i get there :D thanks for the marker o7
 

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I still didn't like her on my current reread.

pls... pls not the new anime ; __ ;

nina is useless and weak-hearted and unreliable but i think she was purposely designed and told that way. she's a very relatable character for the average human being. naturally, she disappointed me a lot too and that's why i disliked her strongly at the beginning but by the end of the arc, i kinda get what miura wanted to tell with her and i think he delivered it.
 

Euphony

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oh really?

im only up to the end of golden age now on my reread... i'll keep an eye out for the conviction arc when i get there :D thanks for the marker o7
If you want to spoil yourself a little on your reread here's the panels of the fetus growing into the reborn Griffith
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pls... pls not the new anime ; __ ;

nina is useless and weak-hearted and unreliable but i think she was purposely designed and told that way. she's a very relatable character for the average human being. naturally, she disappointed me a lot too and that's why i disliked her strongly at the beginning but by the end of the arc, i kinda get what miura wanted to tell with her and i think he delivered it.
She ain't Jill or even Slug Counts daughter.
If you want to spoil yourself a little on your reread here's the panels of the fetus growing into the reborn Griffith
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"Maybe he's born with it, maybe it's Maybelline. Motherfucker becomes a walking shampoo commercial.
 

Stantastic

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pls... pls not the new anime ; __ ;

nina is useless and weak-hearted and unreliable but i think she was purposely designed and told that way. she's a very relatable character for the average human being. naturally, she disappointed me a lot too and that's why i disliked her strongly at the beginning but by the end of the arc, i kinda get what miura wanted to tell with her and i think he delivered it.

yeah this is my thought as well,
its a thorough look at how somehow helpless sees the world, unlike the majority of the cast who can at least rty to fight back against the terrible everything's. And its no coincidence that she is paired with Luca, who is in the same situation but responds in pretty much the exact opposite way.

She ain't Jill or even Slug Counts daughter.

"Maybe he's born with it, maybe it's Maybelline. Motherfucker becomes a walking shampoo commercial.

the flow of causality was altered to make sure the wind is blowing through giffs hair just right at every moment
 
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The man thing stays flawless. He made sure he was even more perfect than his already perfect human body. All according to Keikaku and shit.
 

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She ain't Jill or even Slug Counts daughter.

"Maybe he's born with it, maybe it's Maybelline. Motherfucker becomes a walking shampoo commercial.

but jill and theresa (count's daughter) are a look into good characters. they are not helpless and/or useless and/or super, super flawed

nina is a look at those amongst us who're not as good.

naturally, i like jill and theresa much betterer but i have to give miura points for trying to showcase a perspective off someone who's not as likeable as a person, is all im saying

also, i wanna be as pretty as griff when i grow up * ___ *

yeah this is my thought as well,
its a thorough look at how somehow helpless sees the world, unlike the majority of the cast who can at least rty to fight back against the terrible everything's. And its no coincidence that she is paired with Luca, who is in the same situation but responds in pretty much the exact opposite way.



the flow of causality was altered to make sure the wind is blowing through giffs hair just right at every moment

seru <3

also additionally, i kinda crack up how ohyeah was nina in our last berserk game, seruru XD
 

Winston1

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pls... pls not the new anime ; __ ;

nina is useless and weak-hearted and unreliable but i think she was purposely designed and told that way. she's a very relatable character for the average human being. naturally, she disappointed me a lot too and that's why i disliked her strongly at the beginning but by the end of the arc, i kinda get what miura wanted to tell with her and i think he delivered it.
I kind of agree. She was a miserable and pathetic human being and wholly unlikable but it seems like that was intentional. She was also just a minor character in the manga which helps make her at least somewhat tolerable (and she becomes completely intolerable in the anime because of the fact that they greatly increased her screen presence). I guess I can say that I liked her more than the pirate captain, however faint praise that is.
 

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You're in for some ups and downs, but it's a hell of a ride.

hahah yeah, i can guess :> i've kinda stopped reading since somehow i got my hands on the comic, and since the comic kind of got bits and pieces from the future books, i've managed to spoil myself on some deets and so i was like... deflated

thanks me

:(

i'll pick it up again for sure, im half way through book 3

:D

Guts would have fucked people up in the Dark Tower world.

agree tbh lol

I kind of agree. She was a miserable and pathetic human being and wholly unlikable but it seems like that was intentional. She was also just a minor character in the manga which helps make her at least somewhat tolerable (and she becomes completely intolerable in the anime because of the fact that they greatly increased her screen presence). I guess I can say that I liked her more than the pirate captain, however faint praise that is.

yeah, i really had to remove myself as an invested reader to be able to appreciate her arc, tbh. because without thinking about the bigger picture, i did find her extremely annoying lol. but once i step back and think about the world and what kind of world it is for its people to deal with, i manage to gain some appreciation of miura's attempt at this nina character.

and yes, agree on the last sentence so much hahaha
 

Run Goku

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I didn't mind Nina. She's just a fallible human character. Frustrating but realistic.

And yeah Guts would wreck his way through Mid-World.
 

Stantastic

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i cant say i ever disliked ninas inclusion in the story,
for all the bad shit she pulls her actions always made sense, in that she is complete ruled by fear, like genuine paralyzing fear that just overrides all logic in favour shallow self preservation. and considering the setting, not just the broader world of berserk, but the tower being a literal concentration of just about everything thats bad about that world, i really cant blame someone for being so afraid.
like, her whole subplot just seems to be a big look at fear, and ii thought it was pretty effective.

nuu but get in the robot shinji
 

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I didn't mind Nina. She's just a fallible human character. Frustrating but realistic.

And yeah Guts would wreck his way through Mid-World.

yeah, the way you describe nina is very apt.

i cant say i ever disliked ninas inclusion in the story,
for all the bad shit she pulls her actions always made sense, in that she is complete ruled by fear, like genuine paralyzing fear that just overrides all logic in favour shallow self preservation. and considering the setting, not just the broader world of berserk, but the tower being a literal concentration of just about everything thats bad about that world, i really cant blame someone for being so afraid.
like, her whole subplot just seems to be a big look at fear, and ii thought it was pretty effective.

nuu but get in the robot shinji

i wasnt able to come to where you are at the beginning of her arc tbh, seru, but yes, by the end, i completely feel you.
 

nin

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Can we get a little bit of hype going?
In 10 days we will know what will happen with casca.

10 days.
How about we post our favorite panels.
1 per day
for the following 10 days.

I will start with this gem.

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Everything that led up to this moment.
The dispair
Gutts putting on the Armor
Slaying the knight
and him turning into this thing ?!

that volume alone ranks as one of the high points in this manga aswell as one of the most hyped moments in my life.
 
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nin

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Totally forgot.

One panel per day :P

Lets do this Berserk-Era
 

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ugh i love that one, seru

and jadey's picks are nice too

but for real, the manga is so beautiful at parts, it's kinda hard to choose ONLY 'a few' favourites
 

Euphony

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I've been using this colored page as my background for awhile. I didn't embed the image because it's massive, 4239x2292. The person who colored has done other panels, like the arrival at Skellig overlooking the hills and runed stones, but unfortunately I lost the link to their website.