Well that was super exhausting but I think only 1 person quit and we had 4 at the end. Thanks for hanging out and discussing the strategy options I missed. :)
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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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it is already a disgusting deck, however mine is diff currently only uses righteous protector and shielded minibot which would be pulled. you could build around it for sure with knife juggler and such, but, at the same time I think you're going to also weigh more to include more important counters in the meta such as keeper of uldamon in order to deal with freaking 20/20s and shit, so it's a balancing act. ultimately it just means more freedom in making your decks, as it just opens up more forks for your own personal twist while still having disgusting decks all around.
this why wild the superior mode imo for me, no pressure to spend money to stay on top in standard I can just plug in one or two cards into cool decks I already have if I want to
also why does fal'dorei strider exist? am I correct in thinking you get a 4/4, then 3 auto 4/4's that also draw cards, when they pop up....so 4 4/4's for 4 mana......and you can use two in a deck.....like, doesn't anyone else see that as really disgusting? just use a draw heavy face deck.....how is that not going to immediately have to be nerfed? it's slow but....a 4/4 for 4 mana isn't THAT bad, and like I said, a draw heavy deck like that 4 mana card that draws 2 minions......the 2mana 3/1 drop that draws a freaking weapon (these are all busted power level imo)
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do the ambush spiders trigger auctioneer? they are spells right, that auto cast? would it trigger him?
I feel like every 2-drop is a 2/3 these days and Big Priest is everywhere, so he rarely puts in a lot of work for me. I've lost an enormous number of games because he pulls something I can't handle. In Renolock I switched to Tar Creeper, and I am going to add the new 2/4 DS taunt as well.
I have a 3 different Mill Rogue lists to try. ;-)
If you read the link, it says to save The Darkness toward the end of the match when you can force the activation. That might not be a great idea, but they took milled cards into account when doing the writeup.
What's Bloodbloom for?
Dormant cards basically don't exist. You would have to copy The Darkness while it is in your hand. You can't even Vanish or Twisting Nether it away.
Call to Arms Secret Paladin. Vomit your entire deck in just a few turns!
Remember when people praised rotation because they said no one would ever use another 4 drop besides Piloted Shredder otherwise? And that Blizzard would have to massively power creep the game above GvG levels? And how bad that would be?
Well, it happened anyway! LOL
Welp, ended up at 8610 gold which exceeded my goal. Also sitting on 4055 dust which almost all of it is going to go toward crafting a golden Grumble before I start opening packs.
I'll probably open 150 packs and be done.
I'll probably open 150 packs and be done.
The Darkness is not a competitive card. Like even if some deck could use it consistently, it doesn't have charge, it's a dead top deck mid-to-late game and most decks can easily deal with one huge minion.
It's a fun concept like most timmy cards.
Shredder was a neutral. You can't compare it to a class card (which tend to be "undercosted").
It's a fun concept like most timmy cards.
Shredder was a neutral. You can't compare it to a class card (which tend to be "undercosted").
My point is that Piloted Shredder is rarely seen in Wild these days. Power creep everywhere.
Yeah it's only natural that Wild creeps up in power with every new expansion. Neutral cards are bound to get weaker and weaker as time goes by.
Zoo with Flappy Bird/Ancient Watchers/Devilsaur Egg/Pyterrodax/Void Terror
PS can't believe the reward is a classic pack, c'mon man - why not another Kobolds pack?
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I just played one match with hunter it was something like this:
Saltsea
Patches
Hyena
Crackling
Grandmother
1mana spell that buffs beasts in your hand
Infested wolf
Rat pack
Highmane
Can't remember the last card
Infested Wolf, Timber Wolf, Tundra Rhino? That's quite a lot of chargers. Knuckles is another possibility. The issue i see with that is that those are all bad or so-so cards and then you're playing bad early cards to give a meaning to a 9 cost singleton in ur deck which is a no-no.
Compare to something like Lock:
1- power Voidwalker, malchezaar's imp,
2- power Imp Gang Boss, Dirty Rat/Deathlord (if control), vulgar homouncolous,
3- power Belcher, Voidcaller, Voidlord, Southsea capt (if zoo), jaraxxus
Those are all cards that you already want to play or are somewhat borderline. Voidlord or Jaraxxus are some ridicolous amount of stats. I think you almost always want the taunts so that the other deck can't simply ignore the stats. Belchers, humoncoli, voidlord, voidwalker, deathlord etc... then nzoth the turn after and laugh.
Other possibilities could be slow midrange shaman ( Trogg, totem golem, jinyu waterspeaker, thunderbluff valiant, al'akir, but you lack a 2 power drop) and taunt druid (hadronox, grizzled defenders, random taunts). Pally has decent assortment of 1-2-3 power minions but it has call to arms which is just broken and better as it get 3 minions by itself already for only 4 mana.
I doubt the card will see play outisde of lock though. It seems such a good fit in there.
Hunter worked best for me, include some big minions to charge like swamp king free if possible. Flappy bird of course.
For the Brawl I used a Jade/Evolve Shaman but it was a "one and done" deal for me so I don't know if it'll work or I just got lucky.
Got 3200 gold saved up, roll on 5am/6am/7am/8am or whatever time the damn thing launches over here.
Got 3200 gold saved up, roll on 5am/6am/7am/8am or whatever time the damn thing launches over here.
kibler is always pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36mD2DxZqT0
if you want to get spicy here are the boys: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/206787018
got my "last month in hearthstone" email...
lol. i was playing a terrible steal all your stuff rogue deck all last month.
lol. i was playing a terrible steal all your stuff rogue deck all last month.
I'm at exactly 5k gold saved for this expansion.
funny I think Kibler's are the least informative because of his non commitment.
It's really hard to predict how a card is going to shape the meta. Some, like Duskbringer, are obvious. Others, like Bonemare, are probably harder to predict. Instead, he tells you how a card could potentially be good and what things to look out for (to make said card relevant in the meta). I mean, yeah, I think I get what you mean. He's more of a "this could be good if A or B" but I personally prefer that approach.
My last 7 matches have been against 6 Keleseth decks and 1 quest mage. All golden portraits and some had the legendary card back.
I'm rank 17.
You haven't missed much.
I'm rank 17.
You haven't missed much.
got my "last month in hearthstone" email...
lol. i was playing a terrible steal all your stuff rogue deck all last month.
Can you get these in EU? I never get one of these.
Pre-set predictions:
- Duskbreaker might not be as insane as everyone is predicting as it means diluting priests best deck with more minions (dragons), probably at the cost of cheap spells which enable DK to go off. I think the priest deck is gonna be a little weaker if they have to play on board more, but the effect is obviously really good. Twilight acolyte is too high on most ratings also.
Current Raza deck with psychic scream might be better than any dragon package.
-The Kingsbane deck will not be good and is probably the most overrated card right now in my book because of the way it hampers your draws and requires you to run cards which don't have big board impact. (6/3 weapon won't get you very far if you need to use it to clear) the 2 drop is being overhyped too, you don't want a 2 mana 3/1 in rogue even with tutor I don't think.
- fal'dorei strider will be better than the darkness in rogue. Having control over the rate at which you draw and a steady stream of 4/4s is better than one big 20/20 against most decks.
- Shaman might stop playing evolve with the amount of new low rolls. I love the design of unstable but not sure it's good enough Elemental shaman with the new legendary will be decent instead.
- This set will be pretty low impact without any nerfs, a few percentage points shuffled but class tier list won't see a major upset. Warrior in a bad spot, hunter not as screwed as everyone makes out they got some nice support in places.
- Call to arms is a little underlooked, might be good with 1-drops only in a keleseth deck.
-One of the Oakheart decks will be broken
Can't wait to be wrong on most of this! :D
- Duskbreaker might not be as insane as everyone is predicting as it means diluting priests best deck with more minions (dragons), probably at the cost of cheap spells which enable DK to go off. I think the priest deck is gonna be a little weaker if they have to play on board more, but the effect is obviously really good. Twilight acolyte is too high on most ratings also.
Current Raza deck with psychic scream might be better than any dragon package.
-The Kingsbane deck will not be good and is probably the most overrated card right now in my book because of the way it hampers your draws and requires you to run cards which don't have big board impact. (6/3 weapon won't get you very far if you need to use it to clear) the 2 drop is being overhyped too, you don't want a 2 mana 3/1 in rogue even with tutor I don't think.
- fal'dorei strider will be better than the darkness in rogue. Having control over the rate at which you draw and a steady stream of 4/4s is better than one big 20/20 against most decks.
- Shaman might stop playing evolve with the amount of new low rolls. I love the design of unstable but not sure it's good enough Elemental shaman with the new legendary will be decent instead.
- This set will be pretty low impact without any nerfs, a few percentage points shuffled but class tier list won't see a major upset. Warrior in a bad spot, hunter not as screwed as everyone makes out they got some nice support in places.
- Call to arms is a little underlooked, might be good with 1-drops only in a keleseth deck.
-One of the Oakheart decks will be broken
Can't wait to be wrong on most of this! :D
yeah. if you go to your battle.net account page under the settings drop down is a section called "communication preferences". you have to opt into new and special offers from blizzard.
if you turn it on now you won't get one for this month but you'll get one next month. you also get other promotional emails. but they haven't been spamming my inbox so i don't mind.
I'm on board with these. although i think duskbreaker will just be disgusting. i hope it's not though. i really, really hope it's not.
Well that wasn't me but I'm sitting at rank 18 with golden portraits and legend back because there's no sense in climbing until later today. Give it a few days
I agree with all of this. Except I'm not even sure Psychic Scream will be played. I think it's the most overrated card, with Kingsbane right behind it. Kingsbane could be good. Deadly Poison is a decent and playable card. But Rogue needs one more playable weapon buff like Oil. Only then will Kingsbane become a viable inclusion.
I don't necessarily. I'm just not sold on it being fantastic.
It's expensive and all it does is temporarily shuffle the minions away. In an aggro matchup it's probably game over, but in control about half the time all you're actually doing is buying the opponent more time and potentially giving them tools, especially in something like a mirror match. Against something like mid-range or even control, you don't gain any tempo using it like you might Duskbreaker or even Drakefire Potion. It's too expensive to play anything else of value afterwards. I don't think it's a bad card, I just think it's a card that Priest doesn't need in any deck in which it would fit in. I think it will be in lists at the start but slowly get phased out as people realize they'd rather have other things.
Of course I could be totally wrong.
Or deads man hand. You can also double up the battle cry. It'll be fun at least.
Highlander Priest needs only time and you're giving your opponent shit for minions if some of your own get hit.
yes it's hard but that's why people go to content creators and professional players to hear their guesses and make fun of them if they were way off the mark, Kibler doesn't offer much of an opinion at all.
Where is the export button?
I'm making an account right now, that's probably the solution.
I'm making an account right now, that's probably the solution.
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you have to save the deck while logged in. it's pretty annoying but they made it easy to sign up with twitch.
approximately noon Pacific time for the US. so about 4 hours.
it's discover, it is always class limited with 4 times more chance to discover something from the class discovering. since there are not neutral spells, this will always discover a shaman spell equally.
No it wouldn't. It would specify if it included any other classes. It is just shaman spells. Confirmed on stream.
Oh, that's what it is. I thought it was midnight so i assumed they'd be ready to go when i woke up :)
Oh my god the EU doesn't get the expansion until tomorrow. It sure is slow shipping them cards across the Atlantic.
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