Let's Talk About Skin Care

Lady Murasaki · Dec 5, 2017

woman said:
Stridex salicylic acid pads. They have menthol, detergents, and fragrances according to r/skincareaddiction

I just ordered some Paula's Choice liquid BHA. It seems to be highly recommended and lacks any additives that could be causing irritation.

I want to try the Paula's Choice BHA too, but I am a little afraid it would be too strong for my skin (8%). I am using one from Avène and I barely can stand it the 5 minutes it requires.

So sad that the Bioré Aqua Rich sunscreen didn't work for me - made me so oily. I have no luck at all lol

tabris · Dec 5, 2017

Here is my skin care routine, twice daily. Learn from a master ;)

Cleansers - Kose Softymo Speedy Cleansing Oil and Corsx Low pH Good Morning Gel Cleanser, use oil only in PM:

Toner - Corsx One Step Pimple Clear Pad - Use this in both routines, and Son & Park Beauty Water - Use this every couple of days to help rebalance pH in replacement of other toner:

Serum - Klairs Vitamin C Serum - Use this once every 3 days:

Essence - Missha First Treatment Essence Intensive - Use this in PM routine:

Chemical Exfoliators - Corsx AHA and BHA Power Liquids - Use each every couple of days once, alternating:

Sheet Masks - Too many different options to list, I alternate based on the needs of my skin, but always sheet mask once a day, but here are some of the ones I really like:

Lotion & Moisturizers - Hada Labo Gokujyun Lotion and Moisturizing Milk I use in the morning and then I use Missha Near SKIN Repairing Snail Cream in the evening - I actually really like the smell of snail:

Eye Cream - Mizon Snail Repair Eye Cream - Use in the night:

Most important part - Sunscreen - Biore UV SPF50+ Moisturizing:

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

Cyborg009 said:
Asking again

Could use a toner, but otherwise looking good.

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

Lady Murasaki said:
I want to try the Paula's Choice BHA too, but I am a little afraid it would be too strong for my skin (8%). I am using one from Avène and I barely can stand it the 5 minutes it requires.

So sad that the Bioré Aqua Rich sunscreen didn't work for me - made me so oily. I have no luck at all lol

Biore has many different sunscreens, you just gotta find the right one for you :) A lot of people recommended the kids one for sensitive skin, but you gotta import it.

tabris said:
Here is my skin care routine, twice daily. Learn from a master ;)

10/10

Lady Murasaki · Dec 5, 2017

tabris said:
Here is my skin care routine, twice daily. Learn from a master ;)

I think this was the best case of perfect avatar in the perfect topic that I ever saw here LOL

So many nice things, I am jealous *o* This Missha essence looks like an eternal youth elixir for sure <3

RoyalJCC · Dec 5, 2017

tabris said:
Here is my skin care routine, twice daily. Learn from a master ;)

Honest question, isn't that too much? Your skin reacts well to this? And how long have you been followin this routine?

Lady Murasaki · Dec 5, 2017

catberry said:
Biore has many different sunscreens, you just gotta find the right one for you :) A lot of people recommended the kids one for sensitive skin, but you gotta import it.

10/10

I have the Perfect Face Milk too, very excited to try it! I liked the softness that the Aqua Rich gave me, but the weird oiliness made it not good to wear with makeup [for work], but I surely will use it chilling in my vacations.

I also have a recommendation: This Bioré moisturizer (it is called Bioré Uruoi Jelly Moist) that I got with my cleanser. It makes the skin very very silky, and doesn't have any scent or color.

tabris · Dec 5, 2017

RoyalJCC said:
Honest question, isn't that too much? Your skin reacts well to this? And how long have you been followin this routine?

Not at all. Most of the harsher products - the AHA, BHA, Vitamin C, some specific sheet masks - you only apply once every couple of days.

Also need to ensure you do very gentle when patting or rubbing products into your face. Over-exfoliation of your face is one of the worst things you can do, especially if you have sensitive skin.

I am currently typing this with a volcanic clay mask on my face ;)

EDIT - And being careful to keep your pH levels in check. A lot of western foam cleansers are really bad for this.

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

Lady Murasaki said:
I have the Perfect Face Milk too, very excited to try it! I liked the softness that the Aqua Rich gave me, but the weird oiliness made it not good to wear with makeup [for work], but I surely will use it chilling in my vacations.

I also have a recommendation: This Bioré moisturizer (it is called Bioré Uruoi Jelly Moist) that I got with my cleanser. It makes the skin very very silky, and doesn't have any scent or color.

Oohh that looks good!

I know what you mean tho, some of the biore sunscreens made me oily too and didn't sit well under makeup. I'm using the pink one at the moment. Super tempted to get the kids one, but I think I'll ask my friend from Japan to send it to me, as it's hard to find it online.
Also, if you have enlarged pores, or like that perfect skin look, my go-to primer is the Innisfree no sebum cream. It's meant to be a cream, but I just use it as primer and it does wonders. Pores are just GONE. Magic.

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

RoyalJCC said:
Honest question, isn't that too much? Your skin reacts well to this? And how long have you been followin this routine?

tabris said:
Not at all. Most of the harsher products - the AHA, BHA, Vitamin C, some specific sheet masks - you only apply once every couple of days.

Also need to ensure you do very gentle when patting or rubbing products into your face. Over-exfoliation of your face is one of the worst things you can do, especially if you have sensitive skin.

I am currently typing this with a volcanic clay mask on my face ;)

No such thing as too much when Koreans have proven the 20 step routine is a real thing and it works.
Women like this Taiwanese Mom and her daughters as well as Misako Mizutani (48) spend half their day just with skincare and the results are clear.

tabris · Dec 5, 2017

catberry said:
No such thing as too much when Koreans have proven the 20 step routine is a real thing and it works.
Women like this Taiwanese Mom and her daughters as well as Misako Mizutani (48) spend half their day just with skincare and the results are clear.

You can over exfoliate though, especially with sensitive skin. But yeah, my 10 step routine is pretty standard on the Korean skin routine.

But #1 key is to avoid the sun or always ensure you have sunscreen with you.

Cyborg009 · Dec 5, 2017

catberry said:
Could use a toner, but otherwise looking good.

Any recommendations?

tabris · Dec 5, 2017

Cyborg009 said:
Any recommendations?

I recommend looking to my post. Look towards the Korean brands. Corsx is a safe bet and relatively cheap, Missha being a bit more on the costly side. Easiest thing to start with is the following:

1) Oil Cleanser
2) Gel Cleanser - Very important to double cleanse
3) Moisturizer
4) Sunscreen

Start with that, keep it simple first, then add products in the following order to test them out:

1) Add a toner like Corsx One Step Original Clear Pads - Wait 2 weeks and make sure you don't break out. This goes after Gel Cleanser phase.
2) Add a chemical exfoliant like a Paula's Choice or Corsx BHA - Wait 2 weeks. Then alternate in an AHA. Wait 2 weeks. Make sure to only use these every couple of days.

Then follow the same rule for slowly adding sheet masking, lotions, essences, ampoules/serums. But if you want to keep it simple, the above is good.

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

tabris said:
You can over exfoliate though, especially with sensitive skin. But yeah, my 10 step routine is pretty standard on the Korean skin routine.

But #1 key is to avoid the sun or always ensure you have sunscreen with you.

I exfoliate once every week or every other week in the winter. I've generally become good with knowing when to, as I have super sensitive and acne prone skin.
But I also use derma rollers every other week, small ones that are meant for weekly use. And sheet masks at least twice a week.

RoyalJCC · Dec 5, 2017

tabris said:
Not at all. Most of the harsher products - the AHA, BHA, Vitamin C, some specific sheet masks - you only apply once every couple of days.

Also need to ensure you do very gentle when patting or rubbing products into your face. Over-exfoliation of your face is one of the worst things you can do, especially if you have sensitive skin.

I am currently typing this with a volcanic clay mask on my face ;)

EDIT - And being careful to keep your pH levels in check. A lot of western foam cleansers are really bad for this.

That looks like a lot of work.

I have no clue on where to start a good skincare routine with products that I can actually use on my daily basis. I really need to do some research.

catberry said:
No such thing as too much when Koreans have proven the 20 step routine is a real thing and it works.
Women like this Taiwanese Mom and her daughters as well as Misako Mizutani (48) spend half their day just with skincare and the results are clear.

20 step routine? HOLY SHIT

They look good though

woman · Dec 5, 2017

Lady Murasaki said:
I want to try the Paula's Choice BHA too, but I am a little afraid it would be too strong for my skin (8%). I am using one from Avène and I barely can stand it the 5 minutes it requires.

So sad that the Bioré Aqua Rich sunscreen didn't work for me - made me so oily. I have no luck at all lol

It's 2% though? At least the bestselling one I bought.

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

RoyalJCC said:
That looks like a lot of work.

I have no clue on where to start a good skincare routine with products that I can actually use on my daily basis. I really need to do some research.

20 step routine? HOLY SHIT

They look good though

Here's a good examples of what a 10 step routine looks like and the results:

I do it myself but only on a weekend day as a bit of pampering. Don't have the time to do that daily.

tabris · Dec 5, 2017

It only takes 20 minutes to do each time. I just do something productive while my sheet mask is on.

Cyborg009 · Dec 5, 2017

tabris said:
I recommend looking to my post. Look towards the Korean brands. Corsx is a safe bet and relatively cheap, Missha being a bit more on the costly side. Easiest thing to start with is the following:

1) Oil Cleanser
2) Gel Cleanser - Very important to double cleanse
3) Moisturizer
4) Sunscreen

Start with that, keep it simple first, then add products in the following order to test them out:

1) Add a toner like Corsx One Step Original Clear Pads - Wait 2 weeks and make sure you don't break out. This goes after Gel Cleanser phase.
2) Add a chemical exfoliant like a Paula's Choice or Corsx BHA - Wait 2 weeks. Then alternate in an AHA. Wait 2 weeks. Make sure to only use these every couple of days.

Then follow the same rule for slowly adding sheet masking, lotions, essences, ampoules/serums. But if you want to keep it simple, the above is good.

I wanted to try out corsx but I forgot I added the Paula's Choice RESIST Skin Revealing Body Lotion 10% AHA with Glycolic Acid and Antioxidants - 7 oz

Will that still work?

BlueBikinis · Dec 5, 2017

Belif - Moisture Bomb

Love this lotion for my face. Too bad its kind of spendy.

Ciphyde · Dec 5, 2017

Has anyone had a clogged pore(sebaceous filament) on their nose that's been there for months and doesn't go away no matter what you try?
Plenty times I've picked at it (I know you shouldn't but I want it gone) and when I do - blood comes out nonstop and eventually stops, but then some form of a pore forms again and the little area and the skin around it becomes weird looking again. It also becomes red, but the redness disappears slowly
It doesn't want to go away.

What can I do? I've literally tried everything from face masks, bunch of exfoliants, after shave, Vaseline, but still seem to be there.

To me what it seems to be is a clogged sebaceous filament that gets clogged by skin or something of that nature

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

BlueBikinis said:
Belif - Moisture Bomb

Love this lotion for my face. Too bad its kind of spendy.

I love belif as a brand, but man their stuff is pricey.

Ciphyde said:
Has anyone had a clogged pore(sebaceous filament) on their nose that's been there for months and doesn't go away no matter what you try?
Plenty times I've picked at it (I know you shouldn't but I want it gone) and when I do - blood comes out nonstop and eventually stops, but then some form of a pore forms again and the little area and the skin around it becomes weird looking again. It also becomes red, but the redness disappears slowly
It doesn't want to go away.

What can I do? I've literally tried everything from face masks, bunch of exfoliants, after shave, Vaseline, but still seem to be there.

To me what it seems to be is a clogged sebaceous filament that gets clogged by skin or something of that nature

Steam it. Ideally you'd like to go to a steam room and stay in there for a bit then go out and squeeze out the shit if there's any.
If you do poke it, poke it after you steam it, that way you open the pores and prep the skin for it. After that exfoliate or just cleanse and continue your routine.
But steaming always helps clogged pores. If you don't have access to a steam room, boil some water in a clean pot, set the heat to lowest and put your face above with a towel on top. Use your hands to wrap the towel around to stop the steam from going up as much as you can and stay on top of it but not too close. If it feels like burning stop the fire/gas. It should feel like a steam room, not like you're burning your face.

Good luck, let me know how it goes!

catberry · Dec 5, 2017

tabris said:
It only takes 20 minutes to do each time. I just do something productive while my sheet mask is on.

Yeah, I believe you. My current 5 step routine takes me less than 10min, 5min on a rushed morning, but the thing is, I also spend a 10-15min on makeup, so topping that with a 20min routine becomes far too long.

Ciphyde · Dec 5, 2017

catberry said:
Steam it. Ideally you'd like to go to a steam room and stay in there for a bit then go out and squeeze out the shit if there's any.
If you do poke it, poke it after you steam it, that way you open the pores and prep the skin for it. After that exfoliate or just cleanse and continue your routine.
But steaming always helps clogged pores. If you don't have access to a steam room, boil some water in a clean pot, set the heat to lowest and put your face above with a towel on top. Use your hands to wrap the towel around to stop the steam from going up as much as you can and stay on top of it but not too close. If it feels like burning stop the fire/gas. It should feel like a steam room, not like you're burning your face.

Good luck, let me know how it goes!

Thanks for this, I actually do have a sauna and hot spa at my gym but haven't been in it for a loooooong time. Going to do so today and see how it goes

Pet · Dec 5, 2017

Lady Murasaki said:
I think this was the best case of perfect avatar in the perfect topic that I ever saw here LOL

So many nice things, I am jealous *o* This Missha essence looks like an eternal youth elixir for sure <3

There's TWO of them apparently. I picked up one during the sale; I'll add the second one if I like the first one.

I've been using Beauty Water. It's.. interesting. Only a couple days, we'll see how it goes.

catberry said:
No such thing as too much when Koreans have proven the 20 step routine is a real thing and it works.
Women like this Taiwanese Mom and her daughters as well as Misako Mizutani (48) spend half their day just with skincare and the results are clear.

Who has that kind of time LOL.

Also let's be fair, some of this is genetic.And a LOT of that is makeup... sorry y'all.

catberry said:
Here's a good examples of what a 10 step routine looks like and the results:

I do it myself but only on a weekend day as a bit of pampering. Don't have the time to do that daily.

So.. many... steps.

WHERE DO PEOPLE FIND THE TIME. I do like 5 things and feel like I've wasted so much time already @_@

RoyalJCC · Dec 5, 2017

catberry said:
Here's a good examples of what a 10 step routine looks like and the results:

I do it myself but only on a weekend day as a bit of pampering. Don't have the time to do that daily.

10 step... When I use my face wash + toner + moisturiser I already feel like I wasted too much time ahahah

I really need to find some good products. I want to grow my beard a little more but with all the clogged pores that come with it I'm afraid to do so.

tabris said:
It only takes 20 minutes to do each time. I just do something productive while my sheet mask is on.

20 minutes? For the whole routine? That's not so bad.

EDIT: just an off topic question, is there a haircare thread?

catberry · Dec 6, 2017

Pet said:
So.. many... steps.

WHERE DO PEOPLE FIND THE TIME. I do like 5 things and feel like I've wasted so much time already @_@

When you get more used to it, it really doesn't take that long though.
My skin and makeup routines used to take me 30-40+ minutes back in the day, now I do it in less than 15. Practice makes perfect. Over time it really isn't that much.
Unless you do the 20 step thing. Then you're either a model who does this for a living or a housewive/househusband.

RoyalJCC said:
EDIT: just an off topic question, is there a haircare thread?

I don't think there is one. What do you need help with? I'm alright with hair too.. :D

RoyalJCC · Dec 6, 2017

catberry said:
I don't think there is one. What do you need help with? I'm alright with hair too.. :D

I have really coarse dry frizzy hair that is difficult to be dealt with. I just bought a Tangle Teezer for it because it can become quite a challenge to go through it.

I'm now looking for some shampoos, masks, oils. Whatever that deals with this constant dry frizziness problem that keeps going on with my hair. Oh and it's also a little wavy.

Lady Murasaki · Dec 6, 2017

Pet said:
Also let's be fair, some of this is genetic.And a LOT of that is makeup... sorry y'all.

And also these Tawianese women used so many filters they look more like 3d anime than photographs.

I love skincare [as a bit of pampering specially] but I don't have greeeaaat expectations - for deep wrinkles, facial contour, etc you must have some work done. A good skincare will make the signs a lot less prominent, though, and also will leave you without dark spots, acne, dryness etc.

tabris · Dec 6, 2017

Pet said:
So.. many... steps.

WHERE DO PEOPLE FIND THE TIME. I do like 5 things and feel like I've wasted so much time already @_@

It's not really that bad. Here is what I do, and let's go with an example PM routine as it takes longer then the AM routine which is a lot less then 20 due to no sheet masking or exfoliant waiting.

Rub in Oil Cleanser dry > Warm water > Gel Cleanser > Warm Water > Pat your face dry with a clean towel = 2 minutes
Then gently wipe my face with toner pad > wait 30 seconds > apply essence - i just lightly rub into my face but you may use a cotton pad > wait 30 seconds > apply an AHA or BHA liquid exfoliant - I dab and lightly rub in certain places, mainly t-zone = 3 mins
Go to my computer > Wait 2 minutes for AHA/BHA to work > Grab a sheet mask and using my computer's camera while doing something else, apply it on my face > Wait 10-15 mins while doing something like reading ResetERA, sometimes occasionally rubbing sheet mask into face
Take off sheet mask and rub remaining content of sheet mask against neck > apply lotion via dabbing into skin > apply moisturizer via rubbing into skin > apply eye cream by dabbing against cheek bone towards eye lid. Done.

10-15 mins of that is spent in front of my computer or doing something. Only like 7 mins actually in front of bathroom mirror.

Lady Murasaki said:
And also these Tawianese women used so many filters they look more like 3d anime than photographs.

I love skincare [as a bit of pampering specially] but I don't have greeeaaat expectations - for deep wrinkles, facial contour, etc you must have some work done. A good skincare will make the signs a lot less prominent, though, and also will leave you without dark spots, acne, dryness etc.

Slightly disagree on some elements of that. First, deep wrinkles and facial contour - if you already have it, yes - that would require work done. Skincare is about preventing it though - ensuring skin elasticity and health. Preventing it from sun exposure. If they were doing it before, I can see why their skin would look so good.

Lady Murasaki · Dec 6, 2017

tabris said:
It's not really that bad. Here is what I do, and let's go with an example PM routine as it takes longer then the AM routine which is a lot less then 20 due to no sheet masking or exfoliant waiting.

Rub in Oil Cleanser dry > Warm water > Gel Cleanser > Warm Water > Pat your face dry with a clean towel = 2 minutes
Then gently wipe my face with toner pad > wait 30 seconds > apply essence - i just lightly rub into my face but you may use a cotton pad > wait 30 seconds > apply an AHA or BHA liquid exfoliant - I dab and lightly rub in certain places, mainly t-zone = 3 mins
Go to my computer > Wait 2 minutes for AHA/BHA to work > Grab a sheet mask and using my computer's camera while doing something else, apply it on my face > Wait 10-15 mins while doing something like reading ResetERA, sometimes occasionally rubbing sheet mask into face
Take off sheet mask and rub remaining content of sheet mask against neck > apply lotion via dabbing into skin > apply moisturizer via rubbing into skin > apply eye cream by dabbing against cheek bone towards eye lid. Done.

10-15 mins of that is spent in front of my computer or doing something. Only like 7 mins actually in front of bathroom mirror.

Slightly disagree on some elements of that. First, deep wrinkles and facial contour - if you already have it, yes - that would require work done. Skincare is about preventing it though - ensuring skin elasticity and health. Preventing it from sun exposure. If they were doing it before, I can see why their skin would look so good.

My routine is pretty much like yours, too. Except for the sheet masks [I love them but they are way too expensive in Brazil, like 7 dollars each]. I focus more in the night routine, with oil cleanser, foam/gel cleanser, a serum, a moisturizer, an oil and a eye cream [at the moment I am using richer face creams onto my eyes and sometimes rosehip oil too] A few times a week I use a scrub or a chemical exfoliant.

In the morning I usually wash with only water [the foam cleanser usually dries out my skin too much in the morning] and use a zinc based toner in a cotton pad to remove any night product traces, and still figuring out the best combination of moisturizer + sunscreen that won't leave me oily and will set ok when I use makeup. The days when I don't use makeup I usually use only my silicone based sunscreen that is very hydrating.

SnakeyHips · Dec 6, 2017

Some of these routines sound crazy. I just wash my face, pat dry and put on moisturiser and that sorts my oily skin right out.

Zuly · Dec 6, 2017

SnakeyHips said:
Some of these routines sound crazy. I just wash my face, pat dry and put on moisturiser and that sorts my oily skin right out.

If only that's what it took to fix my face, my wallet and I would be much happier.

lenovox1 · Dec 6, 2017

SnakeyHips said:
Some of these routines sound crazy. I just wash my face, pat dry and put on moisturiser and that sorts my oily skin right out.

As long as your AM moisturizer has sunscreen, that's all you "need." Some people have more specific issues they want to address or wish to have a more comprehensive skincare regimen.

Lady Murasaki · Dec 6, 2017

tabris said:
Slightly disagree on some elements of that. First, deep wrinkles and facial contour - if you already have it, yes - that would require work done. Skincare is about preventing it though - ensuring skin elasticity and health. Preventing it from sun exposure. If they were doing it before, I can see why their skin would look so good.

I wish you are completely right haha I am taking preventing sun exposure very seriously, specially. In a few weeks using sunscreen seriously it faded completely some spots I had in my arm.

SnakeyHips · Dec 6, 2017

lenovox1 said:
As long as your AM moisturizer has sunscreen, that's all you "need." Some people have more specific issues they want to address or wish to have a more comprehensive skincare regimen.

I don't really have to worry about sunscreen when living in Wales. Yeah I guess but I do wonder if all of those steps make any significant changes. Guess I can't say myself since my simple routine works for me.

catberry · Dec 6, 2017

RoyalJCC said:
I have really coarse dry frizzy hair that is difficult to be dealt with. I just bought a Tangle Teezer for it because it can become quite a challenge to go through it.

I'm now looking for some shampoos, masks, oils. Whatever that deals with this constant dry frizziness problem that keeps going on with my hair. Oh and it's also a little wavy.

For super dry and curly/wavy hair I'd recommend looking into sulfate-free shampoos. There's a brand called shea moisture and they specialise in afro type of hair, but honestly their shampoos are amazing for any type of dry/curly hair :D
They have conditioners too, but I think any conditioner does a good enough job if you leave it in for as long as you can. On weekends I personally leave a combination of hair oil and conditioner overnight in a plastic wrap.

As for oil, my personal favourite is L'oreal Mythic Oil, but I think any Argan oil is good, as long as it's organic. Just don't put too much on. I usually use 2 drops, rub it on my hands then just kind of grab my hair from the ends up.

SnakeyHips said:
I don't really have to worry about sunscreen when living in Wales. Yeah I guess but I do wonder if all of those steps make any significant changes. Guess I can't say myself since my simple routine works for me.

I've said this before but people really underestimate sunscreen.
The fact that you don't see the sun doesn't mean the UV lights don't reach you. You get as much exposure as most other people. And the benefit of sunscreen really isn't just about UV/sun protection. It evens out skintone, improves texture, slows down wrinkles (from UV care as well as frequent use) and helps retain moisture. People say it's a must for a reason - it's just overall beneficial for everything and incorporating it into a daily routine will be invaluable in the long run.

RoyalJCC · Dec 6, 2017

catberry said:
For super dry and curly/wavy hair I'd recommend looking into sulfate-free shampoos.

Yeah, I've been using low shampoo for quite a while now - this is the one I've been using. Not a bad one but I think my hair needs something a bit more "strong".
The problem is that I switched shampoos and shouldn't have. Now my hair is so dry I have to get a cut this upcoming weekend.

There's a brand called shea moisture and they specialise in afro type of hair, but honestly their shampoos are amazing for any type of dry/curly hair :D
They have conditioners too, but I think any conditioner does a good enough job if you leave it in for as long as you can. On weekends I personally leave a combination of hair oil and conditioner overnight in a plastic wrap.

Shea Moisture? I wanted to buy this one once but never did - I'll guess this is the time.

I want something that leaves my hair a little more straight. I'm not asking for no waves as that impossible, but something that keeps the frizz away, locks in moisture and makes it overall more tameable. Basically I want proper nourishment of the scalp.

As for oil, my personal favourite is L'oreal Mythic Oil, but I think any Argan oil is good, as long as it's organic. Just don't put too much on. I usually use 2 drops, rub it on my hands then just kind of grab my hair from the ends up.

That one from Loreal is quite pricey. It can go up as 13€ in the supermarket here.

I wash my hair 1-2 times a week max and I use a heat protectant cream such as this one. I need to use pomade or clay but I've still yet to find a good one - maybe I'll go with some american crew or reuzel.

catberry · Dec 6, 2017

RoyalJCC said:
Yeah, I've been using low shampoo for quite a while now - this is the one I've been using. Not a bad one but I think my hair needs something a bit more "strong".
The problem is that I switched shampoos and shouldn't have. Now my hair is so dry I have to get a cut this upcoming weekend.

Shea Moisture? I wanted to buy this one once but never did - I'll guess this is the time.

I want something that leaves my hair a little more straight. I'm not asking for no waves as that impossible, but something that keeps the frizz away, locks in moisture and makes it overall more tameable. Basically I want proper nourishment of the scalp.

That one from Loreal is quite pricey. It can go up as 13€ in the supermarket here.

I wash my hair 1-2 times a week max and I use a heat protectant cream such as this one. I need to use pomade or clay but I've still yet to find a good one - maybe I'll go with some american crew or reuzel.

Yeah that's the shea moisture one I've used, it's pretty good. I'd say even better if you want your hair straighter, as it tends to make the hair heavier.
One mistake people often do with these shampoos is - use too much of it. It doesn't foam, because it's sulfate free, so people keep using more and more and more and it's really a waste of product. You don't have to use a lot. Maybe a little bit more than the usual shampoo you'd use but not more.

Now, I'm not sure about your hair length, gender, preferences etc (I'm fairly certain you mentioned it somewhere earlier tho) but if you like the blowdry look for your hair, there's those babyliss hot air rotating brushes. I use them instead of a dryer and it makes your hair pretty much picture perfect, like on the ads. Really easy to use as well. But it is heat and you have to use heat protection mousse/spray beforehand to keep it from damaging your hair. It also does wonders for frizz. It's pretty much POOF, gone.

RE: L'oreal - it is very pricey, but I've been using mine for about a year now and I'm still halfway through the bottle. However, if I was on budget I'd just get a cheap organic argan oil bottle from amazon/drugstore

RoyalJCC · Dec 6, 2017

catberry said:
Yeah that's the shea moisture one I've used, it's pretty good. I'd say even better if you want your hair straighter, as it tends to make the hair heavier.
One mistake people often do with these shampoos is - use too much of it. It doesn't foam, because it's sulfate free, so people keep using more and more and more and it's really a waste of product. You don't have to use a lot. Maybe a little bit more than the usual shampoo you'd use but not more.

True. I don't use a lot - 8-10 pumps of that stuff covers my hair fully.

And making the hair heavier? Nice. One thing is that my hair despite being thick has way to much volume, being a pain to style it.

How about masks? The oil + conditioner leave in is the only thing you use?

Now, I'm not sure about your hair length, gender, preferences etc (I'm fairly certain you mentioned it somewhere earlier tho) but if you like the blowdry look for your hair, there's those babyliss hot air rotating brushes. I use them instead of a dryer and it makes your hair pretty much picture perfect, like on the ads. Really easy to use as well. But it is heat and you have to use heat protection mousse/spray beforehand to keep it from damaging your hair. It also does wonders for frizz. It's pretty much POOF, gone.

I have short hair (I'm a guy) so I wouldn't be so sure if those rotating brushes would work on me.
I basically just want a softer, straighter and frizz free hair - something that I can style as I want because with my current hair condition I can't style for shit. Most pomades simply don't work because of the frizziness.

RE: L'oreal - it is very pricey, but I've been using mine for about a year now and I'm still halfway through the bottle. However, if I was on budget I'd just get a cheap organic argan oil bottle from amazon/drugstore

Yeah, I need to take a look into that Loreal one because most cheap argan oils are bad (at least the ones I tried). How about coconut oil?

And like I already said I bought a tangle teezer to ease my hair management. Let's see how it works on my hair.

LordGorchnik · Dec 6, 2017

Reposting this as it's been quite a few pages. Looking for some advice.

Anyone have any success treating/reducing Rosacea? When I was a late teen (17/18) I got badly sunburned one day and my cheeks and forehead now turn a dark red whenever I am: outside, smiling/blushing which makes sense, or if I am hot (say in a suit/sweater). I am 33 now and It still makes pictures incredibly embarrassing to have this face with super red cheeks and forehead. Any recommendations to lessen the red? I've looked into skin treatment surgery but yowzers wowzers at the price. I've tried a few products whose names I can't recall but that was 5-6 years ago.

Willing to get back into it again to try and get this taken care of.

Zuly · Dec 6, 2017

On the topic of hair, I've been using the OGX Coconut Curls line and it's worked wonders for my hair. It also helped that after a hair salon murdered my hair with bleach, I cut it all off and it's now growing better than ever.

catberry · Dec 6, 2017

RoyalJCC said:
True. I don't use a lot - 8-10 pumps of that stuff covers my hair fully.

And making the hair heavier? Nice. One thing is that my hair despite being thick has way to much volume, being a pain to style it.

How about masks? The oil + conditioner leave in is the only thing you use?

I have short hair (I'm a guy) so I wouldn't be so sure if those rotating brushes would work on me.
I basically just want a softer, straighter and frizz free hair - something that I can style as I want because with my current hair condition I can't style for shit. Most pomades simply don't work because of the frizziness.

Yeah, I need to take a look into that Loreal one because most cheap argan oils are bad (at least the ones I tried). How about coconut oil?

And like I already said I bought a tangle teezer to ease my hair management. Let's see how it works on my hair.

I think masks are glorified conditioners. But that's a personal opinion I may be a minority in. My hairdresser mixes a conditioner + oil + treatment for bleached hair for myself and leaves it on heat for 30min, then my hair is like baby bottoms. I've been doing the same thing at home overnight. Just leave it on for as long as you can then wash out.

I think coconut oil is generally a lot heavier than argan oil and tends to make the hair oily way faster. For me at least. I also wash my hair twice a week and if I was to use coconut oil, it would get too greasy and gross. But you can certainly try - it is up to how your hair reacts to it.

I can't really help much with pomade and short hair styling tools though - never used them. I do however have experience with styling beards, beard oil and straightening beards. :D

Zuly said:
On the topic of hair, I've been using the OGX Coconut Curls line and it's worked wonders for my hair. It also helped that after a hair salon murdered my hair with bleach, I cut it all off and it's now growing better than ever.

I've heard that many times! Unfortunately this thing costs a lot more here, if you can find it at all. My friend in Australia says it's like under $5 or something crazy like that.

EDIT: Just checked. It's like £20 here to import it. God damn, it looks really nice and such a good price too :( DAMN IT UK!

LordGorchnik said:
Reposting this as it's been quite a few pages. Looking for some advice.

Anyone have any success treating/reducing Rosacea? When I was a late teen (17/18) I got badly sunburned one day and my cheeks and forehead now turn a dark red whenever I am: outside, smiling/blushing which makes sense, or if I am hot (say in a suit/sweater). I am 33 now and It still makes pictures incredibly embarrassing to have this face with super red cheeks and forehead. Any recommendations to lessen the red? I've looked into skin treatment surgery but yowzers wowzers at the price. I've tried a few products whose names I can't recall but that was 5-6 years ago.

Willing to get back into it again to try and get this taken care of.

Question: Are you super pale?
I would really recommend going to a dermatologist for this. Also definitely using sunscreen daily, see the biore ones (blue or pink, I'd recommend blue if you have normal skin and do not use makeup) on amazon and how you feel about it.

If you happen to travel at all, those laser skin resufacing (fraxel) treatments are $100 in South Korea, you can literally walk in a clinic and get it done.

LordGorchnik · Dec 6, 2017

catberry said:
Question: Are you super pale?
I would really recommend going to a dermatologist for this. Also definitely using sunscreen daily, see the biore ones (blue or pink, I'd recommend blue if you have normal skin and do not use makeup) on amazon and how you feel about it.

If you happen to travel at all, those laser skin resufacing (fraxel) treatments are $100 in South Korea, you can literally walk in a clinic and get it done.

Yes, I am super pale. My Irish blood runs strongly through me. I have gone to the dermatologists, two of them in fact but both medicines/ointments they perscribed did nothing over a period of 3 months for one and 8 months for the other. I absolutely wear sunscreen every day if I am going outside, I burn very easily. I will look into the biore ones you mentioned, it looks like blue would be the way to go for me.

I actually do have the benefit of travelling buy have never been to South Korea. Even as a tourist I could walk in, slap down $100 and get it done eh? Might be worth taking some PTO out there sometime soon.

catberry · Dec 6, 2017

LordGorchnik said:
Yes, I am super pale. My Irish blood runs strongly through me. I have gone to the dermatologists, two of them in fact but both medicines/ointments they perscribed did nothing over a period of 3 months for one and 8 months for the other. I absolutely wear sunscreen every day if I am going outside, I burn very easily. I will look into the biore ones you mentioned, it looks like blue would be the way to go for me.

I actually do have the benefit of travelling buy have never been to South Korea. Even as a tourist I could walk in, slap down $100 and get it done eh? Might be worth taking some PTO out there sometime soon.

Yep, that's what tourists go to Korea for.

I have some bad news for you tho. I do think this might be something that you just have. For ever. The burn might've just made it worse, but I am super pale as well and burn within 5min of being on the sun without 50++++ spf.
The moment I start laughing I'm a tomato. Drunk? Yeah, that happens. It's just our life man... :(

TheBeardedOne · Dec 6, 2017

Those who've used them all, which do you prefer: Vaseline Skin Repair, Glysomed or Working Hands?

Pet · Dec 6, 2017

For hair, I use Olaplex. It's to repair hair damaged by dying, but I figured from the description, if it works, it'll work on any hair.

Success! I left it in for about five hours, washed it out, shampooed, used a conditioner, leave in conditioner, and argan oil. I do this every week, and my husband (who NEVER notices these things) said my hair did feel a lot softer (after I forced him to pet me). I used Marrakesh argan oil products, Briogio(sp) leave in conditioner, Kirkland shampoo, and Tsubaki Extra Moist Conditioner / hair masque. Note: I've always had pretty nice hair, but Olaplex definitely boosted me in that my hair will still be shiny and feel soft if I do nothing but shampoo (it used to not be that nice unless I used ALL my products).

TBH I love my hair. It's super soft, and after Olaplex I've been shedding less. I've always had a lot of hair so it's whatever, but it's easier to clean my drain haha.

For my skin I've noticed a HUGE improvement in acne (I still get it but it goes away in a day or two and never comes to head or gets really red), and a small improvement in skin health (it just LOOKS nicer). My routine is kinda weird though. Also, I have combo skin - dry cheeks, oily t zone, though with extra thick cream on my cheeks and chin I noticed they've been a lot less dry.

I alternate between:

Morning: quick wash w/Shiseido (no Clarisonic), Beauty Water (Son & Park), salicylic acid pad (neutrogena), lotion (Grown Alchemist), and sunscreen (Shiseido).
Morning: quick wash/Shiseido (no Clarisonic), exfoilate (ORG), Beauty Water (Son & Park), serum (La Mer), creme lotion (La Prairie), and sunscreen (Shiseido)

Evening: wash w/Clarisonic (Shiseido), Beauty Water (Son & Park), retinol (First Aid Beauty), lotion (Grown Alchemist), sleeping mask (Laniege)
Evening: wash w/Clarisonic (Shiseido), Beauty Water (Son & Park), salicylic acid pad (neutrogena), pre-serum [essence?] (Missha, new, so not a factor), lotion

TBH I got like five or six new products and started using them all at once so I don't know which ones really work. I got retinol a month ago, have had my Clarisonic forever, Beauty Water a week ago, all the La Mer/La Prairie (samplers) a week ago, sleeping mask two months ago, Grown Alchemist two weeks ago, and Missha last night.

I used to wear BB cream but I've basically stopped wearing all makeup, even anything tinted, on my skin. Only eyeliner, a single eyeshadow, and eyebrow pencil. For special occasions I'll put on primer and bb cream.

LordGorchnik · Dec 6, 2017

catberry said:
Yep, that's what tourists go to Korea for.

I have some bad news for you tho. I do think this might be something that you just have. For ever. The burn might've just made it worse, but I am super pale as well and burn within 5min of being on the sun without 50++++ spf.
The moment I start laughing I'm a tomato. Drunk? Yeah, that happens. It's just our life man... :(

Yeah I've resigned myself to that fate. It's just crazy because before the burn I never was this red. Age I am sure has had time to change my complexion as well and drinking Jameson a couple times a week probably isn't helping. Still like cleaning/washing every night. Thanks for the help.

RoyalJCC · Dec 6, 2017

Zuly said:
On the topic of hair, I've been using the OGX Coconut Curls line and it's worked wonders for my hair. It also helped that after a hair salon murdered my hair with bleach, I cut it all off and it's now growing better than ever.

Yeah I've heard great things about OGX. I'm still wondering if I should buy the Shea Moisture one or this one.

catberry said:
I think masks are glorified conditioners. But that's a personal opinion I may be a minority in. My hairdresser mixes a conditioner + oil + treatment for bleached hair for myself and leaves it on heat for 30min, then my hair is like baby bottoms. I've been doing the same thing at home overnight. Just leave it on for as long as you can then wash out.

I think coconut oil is generally a lot heavier than argan oil and tends to make the hair oily way faster. For me at least. I also wash my hair twice a week and if I was to use coconut oil, it would get too greasy and gross. But you can certainly try - it is up to how your hair reacts to it.

I can't really help much with pomade and short hair styling tools though - never used them. I do however have experience with styling beards, beard oil and straightening beards. :D

Thank you. I shall try some leave in mask like that. You mix conditioner and argan oil? And then what? Just apply it?

Lady Murasaki · Dec 6, 2017

Pet said:
I used to wear BB cream but I've basically stopped wearing all makeup, even anything tinted, on my skin. Only eyeliner, a single eyeshadow, and eyebrow pencil. For special occasions I'll put on primer and bb cream.

Did you notice any improvement on your skin since you stopped wearing 'face' makeup products? I am kinda in a transition. I wore foundation and full makeup looks everyday some time ago, but since I started to work in the morning shift I don't really have the will to do it. I like makeup quite a lot, but more in the 'creative' side [with colorful lipstick, eye shadows] than the 'corrective' side, so now I kinda wear lipstick, eyebrow pencil, single eye shadow, blush, a creamy light foundation as 'concealer' and sometimes mascara, but I still depend on face powder [compact] to control my oiliness during the day - and I think it is responsible for many of my problems, but I don't really know what to do yet. I feel like if I don't wear it I get shiny as a plastic doll and when I wear it my cheeks dry out and the skin gets flaky - it is really a bummer.

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