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Hentailover

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Oct 25, 2017
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Moscow
I was graced with the Onion Loli... time to turn her intto tentacle loli

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Oh and I ended up getting 3 new chocolate casters...
 

Kewlmyc

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
26,682
I was graced with the Onion Loli... time to turn her intto tentacle loli

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Oh and I ended up getting 3 new chocolate casters...

Congrats.

Wish they had picked a better name for the new class. "Horror" or "Outsider" would have worked better than "Foreigner" in terms of this lovecraftian based class.

That artist is the same designer of that World Conquest Zvezda Plot anime, right? Her ascension art reminds me of the lead from that show.
 

KharmaPolice

Member
Oct 25, 2017
293
DW probably put 'alien' into a thesaurus and thought foreigner sounded the coolest. Personally I think 'Interloper' would have been good, but 'Outsider' is also nice.
 

Mupod

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,860
200 left in the Crystalline Lore box using only natural AP and 2-3* bonus so far. I did use most of my bronze apples last night to farm Berserker Monuments but I feel like a 70 Darius will be a fine investment for the days of grinding to come. I'll have 52 gold apples and 15 silver apples going in and I plan to use them all either on 40AP or 50AP. 50AP team will look something like this:

Darius 70 + 60% NP charge CE
Robin Hood 70 + Holy Night Sign
Santa Alter 80 + HNS

Santa Alter 80 +HNS (Support)
Jing Ke 50 + HNS (Will be 70 if I get 2 golem ball drops, but she is of questionable use)
Caesar 50 +HNS (my clutch Scathach killer if it all goes bad)

Once more people (and maybe even myself) find HNS drops to MLB I can put some better CEs on to make it easier.

Plan is to build Robin's NP in wave 1, use him to nuke Carmilla and then charge up NP for Santa and Darius - heals, guts and evades should keep Darius alive. Both of their NPs should leave Scathach debuffed and in rough shape. From there it's just a dogpile of the rest of my servants. If I feel like I can get it going smoothly I'll move Caesar up in the lineup to come in when Robin gets one shotted by Scathach or something.

Hopefully it works out consistently and I won't need to drop down to 40AP. The sock gain isn't that different, but 50AP awards other mats I need for the shop and is worth far more EXP. I'll level up 2-3 extra times if I can farm it.
 
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SliceSabre

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,556
I have such a massive horde of XP cards I had to spend some sooooo...

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I'm sorry Saber Lily you're cute but I couldn't resist the yandere. I swear I'm leveling her next after SAlter.
 
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kayos90

kayos90

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,684
For those of you who have Jack, please change your support CE to the one that drops stockingsssssss.
 

Echo

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,482
Mt. Whatever
For those of you who have Jack, please change your support CE to the one that drops stockingsssssss.

I was gonna hold off until tomorrow when SAlter drops, then slap a MLB'd sock drop CE on Jack. (I've been lucky to get a few from 40AP drops.) I figured once SAlter becomes available is when people will really start to go nuts for socks lol
 

Einbroch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,971
I'm going to change my name to Ein MLB CE so people will be easily able to find the MLB CE servant
 

Draggyrider

Member
Oct 30, 2017
4,336
Nearly got all the snake eye jewels in the shop. I'll probably run 50 AP once with good servants and continue to farm 40AP since I still need scales. plus with a +14 (2x Alter, Martha, Marie, I can only really drop one servant and it will still be fairly touch and go for 50 AP I think. I already got the tickets, with just the lore box left, so not really going hog wild with apples
 

KharmaPolice

Member
Oct 25, 2017
293
I was gonna hold off until tomorrow when SAlter drops, then slap a MLB'd sock drop CE on Jack. (I've been lucky to get a few from 40AP drops.) I figured once SAlter becomes available is when people will really start to go nuts for socks lol
But once Salter releases people will stop using Jack as support since Salter gives a bigger bonus.
 

Mupod

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,860
I'm going to change my name to Ein MLB CE so people will be easily able to find the MLB CE servant

The funny thing about the MLB CE is if everybody MLBs theirs as soon as they get two drops, it will be much easier to find MLB friend CEs and none of us will need to find 3 drops. If even one person on my list has an MLB Santa then I'll be fine with 'taking one of the team' and doing MLB early. That said, I haven't had a single drop yet. I will be spamming missions like crazy once we have Santa/50AP available so it would surprise me if I didn't find 1 or 2 though.

Being able to free up even 1 extra CE slot to give Santa Alter a 60% NP charge CE would be a huge benefit. So it's gonna be interesting to see how it all plays out.
 

Deleted member 5745

Account closed at user request
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Oct 25, 2017
5,429
Been grinding the 40AP for days (whoever had the Lancelot with Kaleidoscope as your support, bless you). I've got all the craft essences, all the KFC buckets, four tickets and a metric shit ton of exp cards.

Bring on Santa Alter!
 

SliceSabre

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,556
Got the last grand prize ticket so now I'm effectively done with having to grind anymore in this event.

I will continue to grind for the last couple of dragon scales/fangs/serpent jewels and xp cards however.
 

OhmygoditsJROD

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,442
Got the last grand prize ticket so now I'm effectively done with having to grind anymore in this event.

I will continue to grind for the last couple of dragon scales/fangs/serpent jewels and xp cards however.


No. Keep grinding those boxes.


Edit to prevent double post. Look at the NP gain in this. It's insane.

 
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Magic Kaito

Teyvat Traveler
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Oct 25, 2017
1,427
I know grinding lottery boxes is a good idea, but exams! I think I'll be content with clearing out the first 5 for the lore and NP5 Santa Alter.
 

MKAllDay

Member
Oct 27, 2017
24
I just started this game about a week ago. With about 90 items left in the lottery, I got my first ticket! With the ticket, I am still unable to redeem the Santa Alter and it says I have not met the requirements. Is there something I need to do in order to redeem it, or is it just not yet redeemable?

Also what is the advantage of getting multiple tickets?
 

Einbroch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,971
I just started this game about a week ago. With about 90 items left in the lottery, I got my first ticket! With the ticket, I am still unable to redeem the Santa Alter and it says I have not met the requirements. Is there something I need to do in order to redeem it, or is it just not yet redeemable?

Also what is the advantage of getting multiple tickets?
Not yet redeemable. She unlocks tonight at 8PM Pacific.

The multiple tickets will allow you to strengthen her Noble Phantasm.
 

Grimmjow

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,543
I just started this game about a week ago. With about 90 items left in the lottery, I got my first ticket! With the ticket, I am still unable to redeem the Santa Alter and it says I have not met the requirements. Is there something I need to do in order to redeem it, or is it just not yet redeemable?

Also what is the advantage of getting multiple tickets?
You can use the ticket to get Santa Alter on the 7th day. Getting multiple tickets gets you multiple Santa's and you can combine them to increase the strength of her Noble Phantasm. You can do that part under the "Enhance" menu for all the servants
 

Echo

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,482
Mt. Whatever
Maybe you guys are the wrong people to talk to about this, but the more I think (recurring theme here with me, I think too much) the more apathetic and uncomfortable I get towards the game. (Semi long read ahead, I apologize but if you take the time I am grateful. :) )

10 Days ago I started on the path to hell, and in 10 days I've spent nearly $1,000 on the game. Now, to be clear I don't regret that decision and the financial impact is not at issue, it is however somewhat related to my feelings. It's related in that the only time I've ever spent that much on anything gaming related (at least in such a short period) was when I built my second gaming PC ($1850ish), and so it keeps popping up in my head "For $1,000 you haven't even gotten any of the characters you actually tried for, what else could you have put the money towards instead?" And to be honest, there are many things I have been putting off for a multitude of excuses (like my dying HTC One M7 which I've had since day 1, where I keep saying to myself "let's wait to see next years flagships..." ) so that when I look at the money I've spent on F/GO and realize I could have put it elsewhere I get a slight sense of dread at the realization of these things, and also at how easily I could toss around $1,000 and laugh at the non-results. I also think the back-to-back events and grinding the same exact content for 4 (1/2 AP Free missions) and than 6 (Christmas Event Missions) days straight, is burning me out very quickly. (At 6-8 Hours a day no less.)

As I posted in this thread when I started, F/GO is my first mobile game. I must admit that typical of many traditional "gamers" I formerly held an almost elitist disdain for mobile games, sweeping them all under the rug as "trash." What drove me to eventually try F/GO was my love for Type-Moon. I felt and still feel quite alienated, in a weird way. Like the franchises I once loved practically exploded over night. When the Nasuverse was just a couple light novels, VN's, and a Manga series, I could name all the Heroic Spirits and every detail about them and I could even name all the references across the different T-M products like KnK, Fate, and Tsukihime. Yet with the arrival of F/GO the roster exploded and suddenly it felt like I knew next to nothing about one of my favorite franchises. This made me bitter, I told my friends who kept pestering me that I never talked about Fate anymore "because they've whored it out too much, it feels like they sold out." Alas, curiosity and a want to turn that bitterness around led me here, down the path to hell. I don't think F/GO is trash, it was wrong of me to generalize mobile games. I am still quite a bit uncertain about how to feel about Type-Moon, it's nice that the brand has gotten so big, but I just can't shake the feeling that it's all for the wrong reasons and comes at the cost of negligence in regards to other T-M brands. (Seriously Tsukihime remake never ever.)

Beyond this, I am in the (possibly?) unfortunate, but totally self inflicted, position of possessing a backlog 140+ Games strong. You may have guessed by now, but I am easily parted with my money. I pre-order every game which looks interesting to me on all the platforms I own, and 9 times out of 10 they get immediately shelved to the backlog. I realize the waste involved here, but the psychology of it is pretty basic. It's easier to justify thousands spent on a hundred different games, than it is to justify a thousand spent on a single game. The biggest personal issue here is that I am also a trophy hunter and a completionist which means I put many more hours into a game on average and this really devastates my free time. (I also enjoy other hobbies, like reading, practicing martial arts, and learning which also require setting aside some time.)

And so the picture starts to get clearer I hope? In my mind I am trying desperately and failing to justify having no more time for my traditional console/PC games. I kept telling myself that it was just for the beginning period. Only a couple weeks. That once I caught up with F/GO's story, I'd only have to do the dailies and an event every once in a while. ... but that's not true right? The way the game is built, there is always something to be grinding towards. For the last 10 days I put 6-8 hours in every day and my progress has been amazing, but I haven't been able to even touch the story beyond Fuyuki and I haven't been able to play or do anything else beyond a couple rounds of Rainbow Six. That's the most irksome thing, but the extra slap after is realizing that realistically I could be spending multiple thousands of dollars in the months/years to come to get all the Servants I want and even then it's at the mercy of RNG/Probability. And that's a hard pill to swallow, truth be told.

I've always had the mentality that Time>Money. And if I'm enjoying my time, then as long as I have it, the act of spending money becomes almost inconsequential. Sadly however it does not escape my incessant need to overthink and reflect on everything, and the realty is that since I started, F/GO has eaten huge chunks into both of those things, my time, and my money with little payoff and an uncertain future. I started unsure, but was quickly filled with a great passion, I wanted desperately to love Fate again, and for at least 9 of those days I really did feel a lot better about the franchise. Yet now I am filled only with doubt and confusion. A part of me wants to keep playing for the story and subculture, but the other half of me wants to write this off now as another hard lesson learned and excise all temptation to fall back into the trap.

~Deep sigh~ So I'm at a crossroads. I don't know that I'll continue from here. Probably not if it keeps nagging at my mind like this. You guys here in the OT are amazing though, and were super helpful whenever I had questions. I'll stick around here in the OT for the subculture and discussions if you don't mind. Sorry to all my newfound friends who probably expected to benefit from my whaling in the future events haha, but at least I was useful for this one? :)
 

Einbroch

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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Echo, I'm curious how FGO is taking so much time. Besides this event, which, to be honest, is busted and fixed in following years, FGO is very much a 'play for 15 minutes, oops out of energy, I'll check back in 8 hours' game. Maybe for some events you'll have some free time and blow some apples while you're at the DMV, or on a bus, or whatever, but you don't have to.

These games are all about the long haul. That's what gacha is. You spend 20 minutes a day playing, and over the course of 12 months, come a long way. Sure, some people can just sit there and grind for hours everyday, but you don't have to do that here. There's no PVP, no competitive aspect, and the game is easy enough to where you can use common servants and do well for yourself.

I think some people here that play JP have mentioned how they have hundreds of apples but don't feel the need to use them. It's just not what the game is about.
 
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Deleted member 1326

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, christmas event I think is an outlier because you want to eat all those apples.
If you are just starting it is also very time consuming because of the level up regens, but aside from that I don't think I've spent more than an hour a day at the game and I play JP an NA simultaneously.

If I were you I'd first stop putting so much money in the game and wait until after christmas to figure out if it fits you or not.
 

OhmygoditsJROD

Teyvat Traveler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,442
Yeah dude definitely set limits. If you don't get x servant in X amount of dollars stop. Maybe next time. Also to parrot what Ein said you shouldn't be playing that much. This game is a slow grind.

I empty my AP in the morning and before I go to bed.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,136
~Deep sigh~ So I'm at a crossroads. I don't know that I'll continue from here. Probably not if it keeps nagging at my mind like this. You guys here in the OT are amazing though, and were super helpful whenever I had questions. I'll stick around here in the OT for the subculture and discussions if you don't mind. Sorry to all my newfound friends who probably expected to benefit from my whaling in the future events haha, but at least I was useful for this one? :)

As someone that regulars a couple games of similar ilk: Gacha, not even once. I hope you find your resolution to this. Pacing yourself and not constantly trying to keep up with the hottest trend is one way. Separating from those damned dailies is another.

As you can imagine, I've read similar stories many times. The important takeaway is that you learn to control your play experience rather than group pressure, the game or otherwise. This could be taking a break or quitting entirely, but it's important to stop and think about given what you've posted.

Also, don't let others make you think quitting cold turkey is "dramatic". Respect yourself.
 
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gaiadyne

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
1,380
Maybe you guys are the wrong people to talk to about this, but the more I think (recurring theme here with me, I think too much) the more apathetic and uncomfortable I get towards the game. (Semi long read ahead, I apologize but if you take the time I am grateful. :) )

10 Days ago I started on the path to hell, and in 10 days I've spent nearly $1,000 on the game. Now, to be clear I don't regret that decision and the financial impact is not at issue, it is however somewhat related to my feelings. It's related in that the only time I've ever spent that much on anything gaming related (at least in such a short period) was when I built my second gaming PC ($1850ish), and so it keeps popping up in my head "For $1,000 you haven't even gotten any of the characters you actually tried for, what else could you have put the money towards instead?" And to be honest, there are many things I have been putting off for a multitude of excuses (like my dying HTC One M7 which I've had since day 1, where I keep saying to myself "let's wait to see next years flagships..." ) so that when I look at the money I've spent on F/GO and realize I could have put it elsewhere I get a slight sense of dread at the realization of these things, and also at how easily I could toss around $1,000 and laugh at the non-results. I also think the back-to-back events and grinding the same exact content for 4 (1/2 AP Free missions) and than 6 (Christmas Event Missions) days straight, is burning me out very quickly. (At 6-8 Hours a day no less.)

As I posted in this thread when I started, F/GO is my first mobile game. I must admit that typical of many traditional "gamers" I formerly held an almost elitist disdain for mobile games, sweeping them all under the rug as "trash." What drove me to eventually try F/GO was my love for Type-Moon. I felt and still feel quite alienated, in a weird way. Like the franchises I once loved practically exploded over night. When the Nasuverse was just a couple light novels, VN's, and a Manga series, I could name all the Heroic Spirits and every detail about them and I could even name all the references across the different T-M products like KnK, Fate, and Tsukihime. Yet with the arrival of F/GO the roster exploded and suddenly it felt like I knew next to nothing about one of my favorite franchises. This made me bitter, I told my friends who kept pestering me that I never talked about Fate anymore "because they've whored it out too much, it feels like they sold out." Alas, curiosity and a want to turn that bitterness around led me here, down the path to hell. I don't think F/GO is trash, it was wrong of me to generalize mobile games. I am still quite a bit uncertain about how to feel about Type-Moon, it's nice that the brand has gotten so big, but I just can't shake the feeling that it's all for the wrong reasons and comes at the cost of negligence in regards to other T-M brands. (Seriously Tsukihime remake never ever.)

Beyond this, I am in the (possibly?) unfortunate, but totally self inflicted, position of possessing a backlog 140+ Games strong. You may have guessed by now, but I am easily parted with my money. I pre-order every game which looks interesting to me on all the platforms I own, and 9 times out of 10 they get immediately shelved to the backlog. I realize the waste involved here, but the psychology of it is pretty basic. It's easier to justify thousands spent on a hundred different games, than it is to justify a thousand spent on a single game. The biggest personal issue here is that I am also a trophy hunter and a completionist which means I put many more hours into a game on average and this really devastates my free time. (I also enjoy other hobbies, like reading, practicing martial arts, and learning which also require setting aside some time.)

And so the picture starts to get clearer I hope? In my mind I am trying desperately and failing to justify having no more time for my traditional console/PC games. I kept telling myself that it was just for the beginning period. Only a couple weeks. That once I caught up with F/GO's story, I'd only have to do the dailies and an event every once in a while. ... but that's not true right? The way the game is built, there is always something to be grinding towards. For the last 10 days I put 6-8 hours in every day and my progress has been amazing, but I haven't been able to even touch the story beyond Fuyuki and I haven't been able to play or do anything else beyond a couple rounds of Rainbow Six. That's the most irksome thing, but the extra slap after is realizing that realistically I could be spending multiple thousands of dollars in the months/years to come to get all the Servants I want and even then it's at the mercy of RNG/Probability. And that's a hard pill to swallow, truth be told.

I've always had the mentality that Time>Money. And if I'm enjoying my time, then as long as I have it, the act of spending money becomes almost inconsequential. Sadly however it does not escape my incessant need to overthink and reflect on everything, and the realty is that since I started, F/GO has eaten huge chunks into both of those things, my time, and my money with little payoff and an uncertain future. I started unsure, but was quickly filled with a great passion, I wanted desperately to love Fate again, and for at least 9 of those days I really did feel a lot better about the franchise. Yet now I am filled only with doubt and confusion. A part of me wants to keep playing for the story and subculture, but the other half of me wants to write this off now as another hard lesson learned and excise all temptation to fall back into the trap.

~Deep sigh~ So I'm at a crossroads. I don't know that I'll continue from here. Probably not if it keeps nagging at my mind like this. You guys here in the OT are amazing though, and were super helpful whenever I had questions. I'll stick around here in the OT for the subculture and discussions if you don't mind. Sorry to all my newfound friends who probably expected to benefit from my whaling in the future events haha, but at least I was useful for this one? :)

The first step to realizing you have a problem is admitting it so I'm glad you went through the time to collect your thoughts and write this post. Mobile Gatcha games are designed to take up a players time and mindshare so that they can be willing to spend money on it. I realized a long time ago with my first experience with Gacha games with Chain Chronicles just how hollow they are. In that game when they were planning to remove the servers they removed the stamina restrictions so I was able to do every story quest and finish the first "book". It was filled with meandering meaningless quests that took hours and hours of fighting the battles over and over and it took hours to finish. Now this simple gameplay was addictive but compared to other games I could have been playing it wasn't as fulfilling. I think the stories in these games aren't really the hook since they only exist to give the player something to grind through to keep their attention. The hook and only satisfying part of these is always the Gacha/Gambling element. Which always seemed strange to me. You play this game for tens of hours for those few minutes when you have the "chance" of getting a reward. That has been something that makes me less likely to get seriously invested in Gacha games. I still like that feel right at the beginning where you don't know what you are going to get but the games themselves ultimately end up no more satisfying than opening up a tcg booster pack every couple of weeks. It is one of the reason's I've kinda fell off from playing Fate Grand Order recently even with the Christmas event going on. Most of the "events" are just grind fests, complete time wasters. The contrast of playing something new like Xenoblade 2,which I feel very satisfied investing time into, makes this point clearer. I'm sure I'll probably get invested once the next franchise I like comes out with a Gacha styled game (probably the Shin Megami Tensei one) but I recognize these games for what they are and try to use my time for more satisfying experiences.
 

br0ken_shad0w

Member
Oct 27, 2017
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Washington
Echo, I do think what helps is that not playing isn't the end all. We haven't even gotten halfway in FGO's main story and for the most part, these events are pretty much over after a dozen or so missions and the rest of it is just grinding and gambling.

I know there's that urge to "keep up with the Joneses", but like you implied, FGO down to the core, is still that mobile game model most people in this forum despise - Timers, multiple currencies, RNGs, etc. which are all designed to eat your time and money.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,136
Echo, please join us in the official ResetEra fgo channel, we all share the same worry about the time and money we are spending on this silly game :)

While continuing to do so? Hah. I would traditionally discourage going to an official discord since, while things like this are usually joked about, the majority are still very serious about enabling the usual habits. If ResetERA's FGO Discord is different and actually supports in times like this rather than making it laugh of the day before marching on, I apologize.
 

Kewlmyc

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
26,682
Also it's not really necessary to get everything during a shop event or whatnot. The current push for doing the lotto is for all the gems and mana prism so you can get Mona Lisa MLB, but that's just for future grinding purposes.

But yeah, there's a reason people call these games "gacha hell". They're fun since they feature characters you like, but they're all extremely grindy time sinks that encourage gambling your money away. Take playing these games at your own pace.
 

Echo

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
6,482
Mt. Whatever
Thanks all for the sincere responses, I didn't expect that with all the "TL;DR" culture being the norm usually. Got me a lil' choked up haha.

Definitely a part of it is that yeah, I never ran out of AP. With the 1/2 AP event last week, I was able to do the 40AP missions with ease which shot my levels up very quickly. At one point I had like 1200+ AP and the pool didn't start going down until I hit level 60ish. It seemed to me that especially as a new player, I shouldn't be wasting any opportunity to grind these events as long as possible, thinking that I would be getting a great head start. Plus they showered me in login bonuses, by the end of my first week I already had like 12 or more Gold apples which cost me nothing. (Though at first I didn't know how/where to access them or even what they did so I was spending/buying SQ to replenish AP whenever I did run out or my party died in recent days.) And now of course with the lottery boxes, I blew through the first five pretty quick which gave me even more apples and levels. AP was never an issue, so I just kept tapping away at the screen for hours...

Also if my trophy hunting/completionist nature didn't make it obvious enough, I tend to be the obsessive type. There is an undying drive in the depths of my "soul" to be complete and thorough, nearly perfectionist, in everything I do. In Education and work, this has led me to great success but in games it seems that it often leads only to ruin lol. As some of you say, this is the nature of these types of games. I did know that coming in but once I started playing, the blinders came on I guess? Chalk it up to the hype? First mobile game, great community, multiple events, and an already established love of the franchise...

Again, thank you all for your sincere responses I really was not sure how it would turn out. Didn't mean to temporarily make the thread about me, but figured all the people who just added me to their friends list might deserve an explanation in-case I do disappear.
 
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Chrono

Teyvat Traveler
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Oct 25, 2017
21,042
Maybe you guys are the wrong people to talk to about this, but the more I think (recurring theme here with me, I think too much) the more apathetic and uncomfortable I get towards the game. (Semi long read ahead, I apologize but if you take the time I am grateful. :) )

10 Days ago I started on the path to hell, and in 10 days I've spent nearly $1,000 on the game. Now, to be clear I don't regret that decision and the financial impact is not at issue, it is however somewhat related to my feelings. It's related in that the only time I've ever spent that much on anything gaming related (at least in such a short period) was when I built my second gaming PC ($1850ish), and so it keeps popping up in my head "For $1,000 you haven't even gotten any of the characters you actually tried for, what else could you have put the money towards instead?" And to be honest, there are many things I have been putting off for a multitude of excuses (like my dying HTC One M7 which I've had since day 1, where I keep saying to myself "let's wait to see next years flagships..." ) so that when I look at the money I've spent on F/GO and realize I could have put it elsewhere I get a slight sense of dread at the realization of these things, and also at how easily I could toss around $1,000 and laugh at the non-results. I also think the back-to-back events and grinding the same exact content for 4 (1/2 AP Free missions) and than 6 (Christmas Event Missions) days straight, is burning me out very quickly. (At 6-8 Hours a day no less.)

As I posted in this thread when I started, F/GO is my first mobile game. I must admit that typical of many traditional "gamers" I formerly held an almost elitist disdain for mobile games, sweeping them all under the rug as "trash." What drove me to eventually try F/GO was my love for Type-Moon. I felt and still feel quite alienated, in a weird way. Like the franchises I once loved practically exploded over night. When the Nasuverse was just a couple light novels, VN's, and a Manga series, I could name all the Heroic Spirits and every detail about them and I could even name all the references across the different T-M products like KnK, Fate, and Tsukihime. Yet with the arrival of F/GO the roster exploded and suddenly it felt like I knew next to nothing about one of my favorite franchises. This made me bitter, I told my friends who kept pestering me that I never talked about Fate anymore "because they've whored it out too much, it feels like they sold out." Alas, curiosity and a want to turn that bitterness around led me here, down the path to hell. I don't think F/GO is trash, it was wrong of me to generalize mobile games. I am still quite a bit uncertain about how to feel about Type-Moon, it's nice that the brand has gotten so big, but I just can't shake the feeling that it's all for the wrong reasons and comes at the cost of negligence in regards to other T-M brands. (Seriously Tsukihime remake never ever.)

Beyond this, I am in the (possibly?) unfortunate, but totally self inflicted, position of possessing a backlog 140+ Games strong. You may have guessed by now, but I am easily parted with my money. I pre-order every game which looks interesting to me on all the platforms I own, and 9 times out of 10 they get immediately shelved to the backlog. I realize the waste involved here, but the psychology of it is pretty basic. It's easier to justify thousands spent on a hundred different games, than it is to justify a thousand spent on a single game. The biggest personal issue here is that I am also a trophy hunter and a completionist which means I put many more hours into a game on average and this really devastates my free time. (I also enjoy other hobbies, like reading, practicing martial arts, and learning which also require setting aside some time.)

And so the picture starts to get clearer I hope? In my mind I am trying desperately and failing to justify having no more time for my traditional console/PC games. I kept telling myself that it was just for the beginning period. Only a couple weeks. That once I caught up with F/GO's story, I'd only have to do the dailies and an event every once in a while. ... but that's not true right? The way the game is built, there is always something to be grinding towards. For the last 10 days I put 6-8 hours in every day and my progress has been amazing, but I haven't been able to even touch the story beyond Fuyuki and I haven't been able to play or do anything else beyond a couple rounds of Rainbow Six. That's the most irksome thing, but the extra slap after is realizing that realistically I could be spending multiple thousands of dollars in the months/years to come to get all the Servants I want and even then it's at the mercy of RNG/Probability. And that's a hard pill to swallow, truth be told.

I've always had the mentality that Time>Money. And if I'm enjoying my time, then as long as I have it, the act of spending money becomes almost inconsequential. Sadly however it does not escape my incessant need to overthink and reflect on everything, and the realty is that since I started, F/GO has eaten huge chunks into both of those things, my time, and my money with little payoff and an uncertain future. I started unsure, but was quickly filled with a great passion, I wanted desperately to love Fate again, and for at least 9 of those days I really did feel a lot better about the franchise. Yet now I am filled only with doubt and confusion. A part of me wants to keep playing for the story and subculture, but the other half of me wants to write this off now as another hard lesson learned and excise all temptation to fall back into the trap.

~Deep sigh~ So I'm at a crossroads. I don't know that I'll continue from here. Probably not if it keeps nagging at my mind like this. You guys here in the OT are amazing though, and were super helpful whenever I had questions. I'll stick around here in the OT for the subculture and discussions if you don't mind. Sorry to all my newfound friends who probably expected to benefit from my whaling in the future events haha, but at least I was useful for this one? :)
Wow, I had no idea you spent as much as you did. I mean, I knew you put a decent amount into the game, but I didn't expect it to be as high as $1,000.

The fact that you're putting as much time grinding in this game as you are, I'm assuming you're spending apples (or Star Quartz?) to do so. While apple-spending is recommended for the Christmas event it's not needed, as you can grab everything of worth just from doing the standard runs and nothing extra. Anything beyond that is a bonus, in gaining more Mana Prism, Skill Material, etc. These aren't exclusive items, and you can farm them anytime you want through the dailies. Honestly, if all you want are the exclusive items (Santa Alter and the ascension material for her), this event is far better than something like GudaGuda. It's pretty laid-back in that sense, so you don't need to go all-out farming for it. Aside from that, events are usually the "grind 40/50AP twice or thrice (depending on your stamina), and then check back in after ten hours" kind of deal. It's pretty casual, and doesn't require a lot of time commitment from the player. It's there of course, should you want to do it, but it's not necessary. I play a lot of gacha games, and honestly Fate/Grand Order is the least grindy of them all. You want grind? Try GranBlue Fantasy.

I would definitely recommend taking a couple steps back before you spend more money, until you decide whether Fate/Grand Order is something you want to stick with for a long time, or if it's just a fleeting passion for you. While I always hate to see people in the community go, if it's for the best then it's for the best. If that's the decision you fall upon, and it's in your best interest, then I fully support it. Until then, just take the game more casually, as that's kind of how it's meant to be played. Also, already set in your mind that you might not (chances are very high) get all of the Servants you're after. The gacha can be a fickle beast, so instead of going specifically (and expensively) for that must-have character, try for him/her as much as you can (within your limit), and then let it go if you're unsuccessful. Characters will return, and the game is still young for us, so it's not like you need the latest/greatest right now (nor will you ever, as content isn't exactly super difficult). Play the game, enjoy the story, and try your luck at the gacha every now and then. If you want to spend, limit yourself to a certain amount for the characters you really want, or reserve it just for the guaranteed gacha we get maybe twice a year.

Anyway, I do hope you stick with the game, it'll be sad to see you (or anyone else here) leave. :(
 

Mupod

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I'm glad I got my harsh gacha lesson from Fire Emblem Heroes instead of this game. I am far more attached to Fate/Type-Moon than FE, and FEH is far more generous (even if I was unlucky early on). If this had been my first gacha experience I very well might have gone $1000 deep. Even if I'm not in a position where that is a particularly big deal, the idea of spending that kind of money on any one game is scary. And the idea of not even getting anything worthwhile for that much...well let me put it this way, I threw away a 4 month account and rerolled because I knew that I'd have gone that far for the character I wanted.

It's a weird feeling that I know how manipulative and addictive these games are but I keep at it for the thrill that I don't get anywhere else. This is the first year I've spent time on mobile games and maybe I'll grow out of it, who knows.

At any rate, this event is going to be by far the biggest playtime binge I'll ever spend on FGO. On my old account the game had turned into a 20-30 minutes a day thing at most, and I only just now caught up to its level on the new one. Hopefully in the future it becomes more similar to the parts of FEH I like - chill mindless grind interspersed by interesting tactical challenges. But never terribly time consuming.
 
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Honestly, and I apologise if I sound like an arse here, but I'd recommend dropping the game because if you're spending that much money at this point in the game then who knows what it's going to be like when some of the broken servants roll around (Jalter, Merlin etc). It's a long way away, but I'm not sure you'll be able to stop yourself from whaling when that time comes, especially considering all you'll constantly hear about is how every team must have them bla bla bla.

The rates won't improve and, honestly, the chances are you'll continue spending money and then feel bad about it afterwards. $1000 in 10 days and playing for 6-8 hours a day is not healthy.
 
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MKAllDay

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I just learned that clearing certain story content adds possible drops to your quartz pull pool. With that in mind, should I wait until I unlock some of those additions before my next pull? I am closing in on 30 quartz.
 
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If you want to continue to playing this game you're going to need either 1.) self-control or 2.) money. If you don't have either then... well... idk.
 

Chrono

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I just learned that clearing certain story content adds possible drops to your quartz pull pool. With that in mind, should I wait until I unlock some of those additions before my next pull? I am closing in on 30 quartz.
It only matters if you pull from the story gacha, which you shouldn't do (aim for the event gacha, where exclusive Servants are available with rate-up's).
 

MKAllDay

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It only matters if you pull from the story gacha, which you shouldn't do (aim for the event gacha, where exclusive Servants are available with rate-up's).
Got it. I was fortunate enough to pull all of the banner specific CEs from my two attempts at this Christmas banner. Should I pull from that one once I get to 30 again or wait for the next event?
 
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