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Easy Allies |OT| The New Era

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Jader7777

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Gryflet said:
Lol I'm barely on episode 26. The grain bit was so funny. Nothing so far comes close to Huber with his Law antics... punching that cell door was the best.
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I feel like the game seems to lose those sorts of antics and it's mostly a problem of D&D and high-level play. When characters are lower level they are more grounded and the GM can make relatable scenarios, but high fantasy is something that decays quickly and easily and you can definitely tell Ben and the players struggle at time with rules, interactions, remembering what they can and can't do, or even how to best deal with situations.

Also I really want Kyle to GM a game. ;)
 

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Alright, back on track.......

Been watching some Xenoblade 2 reviews. Seems pretty decent, but probably not for me. I love Xenoblade 1 though (well, the 30 or so hours I put into it).
 
LiquidSolid

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Primethius said:
You misunderstood me. I wasn't asking for a statement on the tweets but the general issue/controversy surrounding the appearance.

But I see the mod post. I respect it. The mods have given us more than enough lee way to talk about these issues, and I'm thankful for that.

With that, I'm out. I'll keep an eye out to see if any sort of statement comes. I joined EZA late last year but it was fun and it quickly became a part of my daily routine. Especially this community, back on the old forums and here now on Reset.

I'll see y'all around in the other threads. Peace.
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Really sucks to see a valuable member of this community like you leave but I can't blame you. See ya around, Primethius .
 
Elfforkusu

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Mikey Jr. said:
Alright, back on track.......

Been watching some Xenoblade 2 reviews. Seems pretty decent, but probably not for me. I love Xenoblade 1 though (well, the 30 or so hours I put into it).
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I imagine Ben's review will do the game justice. No pressure, Ben!

I want to play, but there's a basketball game I'm watching right now. So it'll wait another hour
 
chirt

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I'm playing Xenoblade 2 right now. Getting some serious Skies are Arcadia vibes. Digging it so far!
 
Mezoly

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I just bought Xenoblade 2. I have never played any Xeno game before. Trying out new games/genres this year has worked out really well for me, so I hope that trend continues.
 

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TheDarkKnight said:
You're free to do whatever you want. But asking for EZA (Jones or anyone else from EZA) to release some official statement on some latest Colin tweet or else you quit consuming EZA content seems pretty strange to me. He's not part of EZA, EZA patreon money isn't going to Colin, he didn't appear on any EZA content, and his tweets were after whatever appearance Jones was on. I don't think one guest appearance signs Jones up to be his lifetime caretaker/spokesman. If Jones decided to come on Colin's podcast again then I feel that's opening the door again and feel free to send Jones a tweet about it, or CoJ post about it (if you are still a patron).

My wrapup of this whole ordeal is the the following. I stated a week ago I didn't want Jones to collaborate with Colin. I want nothing to do with Colin. I won't go seek out this latest tweet, and I won't listen to the podcast for that reason. And I'm sick of how much he's seeped into this thread. But that was a door that Jones opened and was fair game. But I also think there's limits to that as well. The podcast is shot, by all accounts from the summaries of people posting here Jones conducted and stayed essentially true to how he's behaved in the 1.5 years of EZA content. Anything beyond that to me isn't relevant.

You have a year and a half of EZA content with Jones and the rest of the crew where they have consistently shown a level of maturity, caring, respect to one another, to the fans and others. Why you would give Colin power over that is beyond me. He has absolutely no influence on how I view the EZA crew. Do they make missteps? Sure but I also see them always try and improve, learn from it, and try to do better next time. And there's countless examples I could bring up where that's been the case.

Anyways I do look forward when things will calm back down and we can get back to talking about EZA content in this EZA thread. I see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Edit: I see the mods weighed in during my long typing. So moving on.....
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The strangeness comes from the very way their pitch their existence: "We wouldn't be able to do this without you."

So what people like Primethius inherently funded was Jones' trip to the guy's front door and contributing to this mess in the first place. You can't say "I want nothing to do with Colin" and then pay for the gas in Jones' car to get there. Those two things are intertwined. Writing that off as strange seems incredibly reductive. The difference between Primethius, me, and you is that while Primethius feels guilty about supporting this trip and is walking away, I feel this was problematic but remain faithful this will be handled internally by the other allies who lean far more to the left, and you who feel that nothing wrong has happened at all (or at least that is my takeaway).

All of these are respectable positions to take. But to say that Primethius' actions are "strange" is either acting in bad faith, or you're so deeply on board the EZA train that might never acknowledge them as doing anything problematic at all. People in the community were attacked over this. People's money went towards organizing and orchestrating a product that they do not wish to be associated with and were willfully ignored. Brandon himself was apparently understanding of this during his discussion. That you aren't is perplexing.
 
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ourghostsofwar

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Wow. Talk about acting in bad faith and being blatantly petty.

My post is specifically about how to react to problematic EZA decisions and how we treat each other in that context. Not about the bully. Considering we literally just did this a month ago when we decided to leave GAF for ERA in order to avoid supporting Tyler Malka, I don't understand where TheDarkKnight is coming from.
 
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TheDarkKnight

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I don't think you understood what I was thinking "strange". My initial response was a misunderstanding that he was wanting some follow up statement to a recent tweet or would drop all content. Not the general scenario of appearing on the podcast. There's a number of others that stated they were dropping their patronage and hey that's up to the individuals. I'm not going to pop in and tell them what they should do or not do, we all have different lines. I just thought what I read (which again was a misunderstanding on my part) was taking it much farther. As for the rest no I didn't say nothing was problematic. Just search this thread history, or my post to the cup of jones page about it to see my thoughts. I think I've been fairly consistent
 

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TheDarkKnight said:
I don't think you understood what I was thinking "strange". My initial response was a misunderstanding that he was wanting some follow up statement to a recent tweet or would drop all content. Not the general scenario of appearing on the podcast. There's a number of others that stated they were dropping their patronage and hey that's up to the individuals. I'm not going to pop in and tell them what they should do or not do, we all have different lines. I just thought what I read (which again was a misunderstanding on my part) was taking it much farther. As for the rest no I didn't say nothing was problematic. Just search this thread history, or my post to the cup of jones page about it to see my thoughts. I think I've been fairly consistent
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I guess I misunderstood you as well. My humble apologies, Greg.

My perspective was that he wanted some kind of dialog that this was a one-off and wouldn't happen again. He can obviously speak for himself if checks out the thread again but that was my takeaway. From my own tweets and messages to EZA, I feel like there will be stronger pushback against something like this happening again which is why I'm choosing to stick around and re-sponsor Frame Trap in a few months when my development budget clears up. Otherwise, S1 of TTE wrapping up would be a perfect jumping out point for me as well.
 
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I really do not want to derail this thread again, but I would like to say that hearing Brandon talk more candidly about the start of Easy Allies and the Patreon process was fascinating. It's great to see small communities like the Allies, or Kinda Funny, etc. thrive through Patreon. I remember the week after GT closed and waiting for the podcast to drop only to realize that it wasn't going to happen, and to think that Patreon allows for such things to continue is pretty damn awesome.

Also, Jason's review of Xenoblade had some valid criticisms and I've been on the fence about this game for so long and am anticipating Ben's review. I don't love most JRPG's but certain battle systems hook me in ways I cannot explain. I couldn't really get into mainline Final Fantasy games but I adore the Tactics games on PS1 and GBA/DS. So who knows if this one would click, kinda wish there was a demo.
 
Alucrid

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the highly suggested mini game sounds like my worst nightmare. especially since mini games in jrpgs tend to be hit or miss for me. and as someone who got xenoblade day one, put a few hours into it and quit because i didn't enjoy the combat hearing that jason didn't like that and wasn't a huge fan of this one probably means this isn't the switch jrpg for me.
 

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It's sad to see members of the community go. Primethius I've always enjoyed your contributions to the community thread both here and at the old forum. Take care.
 
Elfforkusu

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Alucrid said:
the highly suggested mini game sounds like my worst nightmare. especially since mini games in jrpgs tend to be hit or miss for me. and as someone who got xenoblade day one, put a few hours into it and quit because i didn't enjoy the combat hearing that jason didn't like that and wasn't a huge fan of this one probably means this isn't the switch jrpg for me.
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the combat is definitely similar to 1, with a slightly different control scheme (think hierarchy of buttons rather than MMO-esque art bar) and some wrinkles. But the core ideas are the same.

I've not gotten far enough to figure out if there's a blade that will let me just play the game as if I'm using Melia. In fact, ideally the blade would just be Melia
 
Stowaway Silfer

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"Five second pause...Damn!"

Tabletop season finale was fantastic. I was kinda sad spirit-Law didn't appear to Huber's character.
 
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Primethius said:
You misunderstood me. I wasn't asking for a statement on the tweets but the general issue/controversy surrounding the appearance.

But I see the mod post. I respect it. The mods have given us more than enough lee way to talk about these issues, and I'm thankful for that.

With that, I'm out. I'll keep an eye out to see if any sort of statement comes. I joined EZA late last year but it was fun and it quickly became a part of my daily routine. Especially this community, back on the old forums and here now on Reset.

I'll see y'all around in the other threads. Peace.
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Bye! :)
 
Dyno

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I hope the new series is shorter. I realized last night I've been largely zoned out of tsblrtip for about 20-30 weeks now so the end fell really flat for me.

I just kinda felt this one went on way too long
 
dickroach

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i think an easy compromise would to be to just make one 50 hour episode instead of a season that lasts a year an a half
 
Pygrus

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Excited to see Ben's review of XC2, I'm having a ton of fun with it right now. Also, now that tabletop escapades is done, I think I'm going to take my time and go through it, will take me awhile though.
 
TheDarkKnight

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Man Damiani is putting in some serious XC2 stream time. Again I appreciate that he's streaming newer games (even though I'll need to avoid it since I just got the game)
 
Chris Kay

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I am sorry to bring it up again but I just caught up with this whole controversy and I am pretty surprised at how it all went down. I don't want to stir the pot and intentionally cause discourse but I would like to offer an outsiders perspective seeing as I am not from the US and might interpret things differently.

Being unfamiliar with Colin's work outside of seeing him a few times back at Kinda Funny I felt I had to find out more to form my own opinion. I listened to Jones latest CoJ and then his appearance on the podcast with Colin. Afterwards I found Joe Rogan's podcast with Colin and ended up listening to the whole thing. Joe Rogan is a pretty cool dude btw.

My take away is that he is a very strong opinionated person that is not quick to back down from his held stance. Weather you agree with some of his opinions depends on your political affiliation. Now I in no shape or form whatsoever condone racism/bigotry/intolerance and I wildly disagree with most of his political views as well. Yet I am just not seeing the monster some people seem to be painting him as.

Being from the EU where our right can even be more left then your left parties political views, I hear Colin's views on gender equality, sexual preference, religion etc and think he aligns with the social policies we uphold here and agree with most of it. Then I hear his views on economics and other social issues and our opinions don't line up. I hear somebody who is misinformed and unwilling to alter his views. He has an abrasive way of conveying himself which would generally rub people the wrong way if your opinion differs. But that should only lend opportunity for debate and not the demonization which seems to have happened.

I am glad the Jones went on the podcast to open a dialogue and didn't succumb to the strong demands of a few. It is impossible to agree with everybody. Yet you should be able to have a civil conversation with someone without that automatically meaning you support their differing views. In the case of Colin it seems he is not as open to admit his faults or apologize for his transgressions but to attack him for it is the highest form of hypocrisy that it becomes laughable. Maybe its just a consequence of the digital times we live in or a reflection of the political climate in the US now and even here in Europe, but it seems impossible to have a civil debate online nowadays without extreme accusations and drawing lines in the sand. If you are not with me you are against me! How is that at all constructive?

This is not something I expected in the EZA community and goes against the very essence of our slogan. I may be naive here but I figured since the EZA community seems to skewer slightly older and with an international audience as well that we would welcome differing opinions and be able to agree to disagree when required. Sorry for the rambling but I am just surprised at how this is all playing out and had to say my piece.
Love and respect.
 

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Pls read the past 20 pages where people have shown several reasons for why they feel the way that they do, plenty of twitter examples among them. Look out for Jay's compilation post. People have provided plenty already no reason to repeat ourselves again and of course it doesn't help when new people just come in here and post "I don't know why everyone is so upset" and repeat the same tired responses that already happened 20 times. Since the mod decision happened at this point you just have to do with reading up on the discussion. That is if you're interested at all in understanding the why.
 
Emka

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Sounds like I missed quite a bit of drama...
This thread is moving too fast for me to follow, and I am not up to date on most Easy Allies content due to lack of time (except the weekly podcast).

Anyway, I see that Tabletop Escapade is finished? I'm gonna have to watch that, I'm a few episode behind.
 

Holundrian

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Emka said:
Sounds like I missed quite a bit of drama...
This thread is moving too fast for me to follow, and I am not up to date on most Easy Allies content due to lack of time (except the weekly podcast).

Anyway, I see that Tabletop Escapade is finished? I'm gonna have to watch that, I'm a few episode behind.
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Season 1 is finished. What's next are a fanart episode and a recap episode before season 2 starts next year.
 
Chris Kay

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Holundrian said:
it doesn't help when new people just come in here and post "I don't know why everyone is so upset" and repeat the same tired responses that already happened 20 times.
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I think you misread my post if that is what you take away from it. If I didn't articulate my opinion adequately then I apologize.

I fully understand why people are upset and I am not defending Colin. I am just surprised the manner in which some members of this community reacted and going as far as to demand things from Jones and the Allies as well. It goes against my idea of what the EZA community is and my post was meant to give my take on that.

But since I wasn't able to give my opinion on this issue at the time and it seems the conversation has moved on I will leave it at that.
 
LiquidSolid

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Chris Kay said:
I think you misread my post if that is what you take away from it. If I didn't articulate my opinion adequately then I apologize.

I fully understand why people are upset and I am not defending Colin. I am just surprised the manner in which some members of this community reacted and going as far as to demand things from Jones and the Allies as well. It goes against my idea of what the EZA community is and my post was meant to give my take on that.

But since I wasn't able to give my opinion on this issue at the time and it seems the conversation has moved on I will leave it at that.
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Plenty of us aren't from the US, including me, so you're not special in that regard and can't use it as a moral high ground. The admins/mods have banned further discussion on Colin for some very good reasons that have been explained over and over and over in this very thread, so like Holundrian said, feel free to read the last 20 or so pages to find out why. No-one has attacked him though, so I have no clue how on earth you got that idea.

As far as EZA is concerned, the issue is largely with the way Jones has handled this entire debacle, his complete lack of communication and disregard for the issues people brought to him, particularly the EZA community members who were singled out and harassed by Colin's followers. That's a black and white situation that Jones completely ignored. I'll say it again but the people who demanded EZA play their favourite boobies game and then threw an enormous tantrum when EZA refused to, were treated with far more respect and openness than the people who objected to EZA associating with one of the most divisive people in the industry and his extremely toxic fanbase.
 
Keith Stat

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You're stirring the pot, Chris!

Also, starting something out by saying, "Being unfamiliar with Colin's work outside of seeing him a few times back at Kinda Funny...," doesn't necessarily show that you're really coming here with all that informed of an opinion. He's had YEARS of multiple controversies and many times he could have apologized or changed his ways, but hasn't. It's not just a couple of "Al Bundy" jokes. He's multiple times been outspoken about things many people in this community find abhorrent, and some might see Jones appearing on his politics dominated show a tacit endorsement or normalizing his views (especially because it seems they hardly, if at all, even talked politics in this?). EZA has largely been apolitical, which is fine in my opinion, and appearing on a show with a guy who is anything but that just is such a jarring shot to the system as how EZA has operated in their history. Also, saying "concerns from a few" is highly misleading as you have no way of backing that up. Jones even said it was "60-40" (didn't say which way) for EZA Patron's supporting or not supporting it, which is obviously not a just "few."

Whatever. It's real upsetting and weird for me that this even happened, but i'm done with this. FAR from throwing in the towel with EZA, but just frustrating to have admittedly uninformed people coming into this and asking why we are "offended" when we've been paying attention to all of his shit for years. It's your decision to feel if it's "valid" or not, but it needlessly threw this community into a shit-storm that easily could have been avoided, in my opinion.
 
ElephantShell

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The Evil Within 2 full playthrough is the kinda stuff that sets EZA apart from other gaming personalities. That's 18 hours of quality content
 
Chris Kay

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LiquidSolid said:
Plenty of us aren't from the US, including me, so you're not special in that regard and can't use it as a moral high ground. The admins/mods have banned further discussion on Colin for some very good reasons that have been explained over and over and over in this very thread, so like Holundrian said, feel free to read the last 20 or so pages to find out why. No-one has attacked him though, so I have no clue how on earth you got that idea.
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If you think I used my not being from the US as an attempt to claim the moral high ground then you are proving a point Jones was trying to make in the last CoJ. Statements can be interpreted differently by different people and they might take offense even if it was not the intent. I was only using it as a framework to show why my opinion might differ from most here. My opinions are my own and you are free to disagree.

On the point of attacking, there are people making very strong statements against him. Maybe attack is not the best word but it was definitely antagonistic. Now again this may seem like I am trying to defend him which I am not. My point is similar to Jones, we should engage in conversation to work out our differences and not make demands because they don't cater to my wishes. Maybe Jones could have voiced his opinions on Colin a bit better but as he says it a process and hes learning.
 
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I really don't mind the discussion myself, but maybe continue it through PM:s if you must. You can even PM me and I'll discuss it with you.
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This thread has gone far off topic. The EZA thread is not and never was supposed to be a place to discuss all things Colin. We made an exception to our positon on Colin in an effort to accomodate this thread and the results do not appear to have been good for anyone. With the guest appearance over, it's time to move on.
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The Evil Within 2 full playthrough is the kinda stuff that sets EZA apart from other gaming personalities. That's 18 hours of quality content
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Yea I was just thinking about that stream the other day. I can't believe I stayed up all night watching that stream live. I wanted Huber to see the reveal for collecting all those slides and started helping him find the items. Then it just sort of kept going. Crazy night.
 
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Just FYI, Chris Kay , the hot take that the community is full of closeted bullies that were attempting to forbid Brandon from going on that podcast has been attempted before and already been rebuked. The majority of people who were against the idea were asked by Jones himself to provide feedback, which they did, and were then promptly dismissed as merely some ruffled feathers. No one was actively attempting to stop him or tell him what to do, we just had legitimate misgivings over one of the allies, and by extension the community itself, associating with a fellow of such ill repute as Colin Moriarty.

The reasons for Colin's deserved reputation are many and well documented and you are free to browse either this thread or the internet at large to find a number of any such circumstances. As has been stated by the mods already, this issue has been shelved and the community instructed to move on so I suggest any further input you have on the subject be done via PMs if you so wish.
 
Chris Kay

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Keith Stat said:
You're stirring the pot, Chris!
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I guess I am, not my intent and I should let it rest. But I just saw the strong opinions getting thrown around and felt the need to chime in. I try to take things at face value at first and give people the benefit of the doubt. But it seems there is a lot more history to this story then my initial reaction of him based on what I seen for myself. I absolutely don't have issues with peoples opinions on the matter but with how some of it is coming across. It comes across as too black and white and lacking nuance. But that's just my opinion from an outside perspective with limited exposure. Do with it what you will.

The only reason I felt the need to commentate is because it directly effects this community and I was not expecting that polarizing of an issue to occur here. Especially when Brandon seems to view the situation differently than some people here.
 
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