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Study shows dogs are smarter than cats
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Yeah we had a cat that went missing for months. Eventually it just came back, looking extremely well fed to boot. He kind of fled the area after he got his ass kicked by a younger cat, even blinded him in one eye. That cat was a badass
How soon they forget. Hero feline saves child from mutt.
That is a badass fucking Cat
Been around both all of my life and yea, dogs just seem more...aware? Not sure if that's the right word.
I love my cat, but yeah, of course dogs are smarter.
I mean look at this dumbfuck:
Imagine being that surprised *every time* the metronome made a ticking noise.
I mean look at this dumbfuck:
Imagine being that surprised *every time* the metronome made a ticking noise.
This is a very interesting paper, I only skimmed it but it seems this article tried to take into account several factors to quantify "intelligence" not just the cortical neurons but also the density of those neurons (Since elephants and whales have tons of those but aren't considered intelligent). It does still fall into the trap of what is intelligence but I like this papers methods more (it does have the benefit that I can actually read it though).
Relative to apes or dolphins? I don't believe so, but again remember how we're defining intelligence is a very human one.
The sound is probably uncomfortable.
That cat looks like me watching Blade Runner 2049.
You may be asking why the cat didn't leave. I asked myself the same question after sticking around through that entire nightmare.
i am really not a fan of dog ownership, i like them in general but i hate the idea of having them around for longer than like a short visit
creeps me out
How soon they forget. Hero feline saves child from mutt.
Bodychecked that bitch.
What an asshole biting that poor kid's leg.
My wife and I love our dog to death, but once he goes we vowed to never get one again. We prefer cats because of how self sufficient they are.
One instinctively knows how and where to take a dump without prior instruction other than showing said location and no further action during their lifetime other than occasionally cleaning said location at minimum effort. The other has to be taken outside, while having to scoop said dump up in a thing plastic bag with your hands, at least thrice a day for their entire life, after you spend the first six months to a year cleaning up their business at random locations inside your own home.
One cleans itself all day long, the other requires regular cleaning that causes messes that also require cleaning of the cleaning location.
One can be left to itself when you need to go out, the other will piss off your neighbor's as it whines until you return.
Neurons shmeurons, it is clear which one is smarter.
Also, cats are waaaaaay better at staring contests, nature's ultimate intelligence test.
One cleans itself all day long, the other requires regular cleaning that causes messes that also require cleaning of the cleaning location.
One can be left to itself when you need to go out, the other will piss off your neighbor's as it whines until you return.
Neurons shmeurons, it is clear which one is smarter.
Also, cats are waaaaaay better at staring contests, nature's ultimate intelligence test.
Ya my son wants a dog but I don't want to deal with responsibility of taking care of them. I have enough things to worry about. Trying to convince my wife to let us get a cat instead. I love cats too but they don't come close to dogs to me. One of the downsides of dogs is that they ne d almost as much care as a child. Which I cant int this point of my life. One day
So I'm totally a cat person and think it's an open debate which is smarter, but some people are making the false assumption that independence/self-sustaining = intelligent which is almost laughable.
At best it's a different kind of intelligence, but there's an easy argument that an animal that can successfully integrate into a co-dependent social structure (y'know like humans do) is the smarter creature. Or in other words intelligence for pack animals =/= intelligence for a lone hunter.
At best it's a different kind of intelligence, but there's an easy argument that an animal that can successfully integrate into a co-dependent social structure (y'know like humans do) is the smarter creature. Or in other words intelligence for pack animals =/= intelligence for a lone hunter.
Those that say cats can't be trained. My cat says otherwise. <3 Best part is that I've adopted her just three years ago at an older age of eight.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/924347438424641539
On the other hand, I had a scottish terrier growing up. I've trained her too, she was just as smart as I give her credit for. I've trained her to sit, lay down, shake hands, bark, jump, roll over, play dead, stay and come. She was a great dog, I miss her terribly. Scottish terriers are aloof and very independent, they don't command you to pay attention to them or they would run up to you for affection all the time like some breeds do. She do very well on her own, they're bred to hunt down moles, rats, and so on. She's a good digger and escape artist too, she managed to live to a ripe age of 17 before liver failure took her. SEVENTEEN and not get hit by car in all of her escapades.
So with that said, pets that can do very well ON THEIR OWN are very smart. I've worked at a shelter and a pet hospital, so I can recognize some of the smart breeds that are fiercely independent are very similar to cats.
And finally, you DO have dependent cats. There's a lot of kittens that were born out of incest often when a owner kept the previous litter intact and those kittens end having more kittens. Similar with rabbits getting out of hand. Inbred cats are just as dumb and fortunately (or unfortunately) depending on how you look at it, the cat isn't that obvious about being dumb as rocks sometimes. But you can bet that those cats are treated as bottom feeders on the totem pole of their social hierarchy (only the smart, strong and survivalist is the top cat in those cat colonies). I've adopted another cat 6 months later, and we can say nearly a week or so that she's a special needs type of cat. Special kind of dumb but we adore her to pieces for a lot of different reasons anyway. She's more of the dog of the two ironically enough. She'll even fetch for you.
Another poster is right, independent cats are like teenagers that hate you and don't want to leave home yet. Dependent cats however has very similar personalities of most dependent dogs, they want attention, they would greet you after all day like they were abandoned all day EVEN IF YOU WERE GONE FOR ONLY A HOUR. They cry often even at the silliest things. Thankfully they also know how to play and be very playful well into their old age despite of not being a kitten anymore. My Soxi is only 8 years old, she still obsessed with mouse toys that rattles.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/924347438424641539
On the other hand, I had a scottish terrier growing up. I've trained her too, she was just as smart as I give her credit for. I've trained her to sit, lay down, shake hands, bark, jump, roll over, play dead, stay and come. She was a great dog, I miss her terribly. Scottish terriers are aloof and very independent, they don't command you to pay attention to them or they would run up to you for affection all the time like some breeds do. She do very well on her own, they're bred to hunt down moles, rats, and so on. She's a good digger and escape artist too, she managed to live to a ripe age of 17 before liver failure took her. SEVENTEEN and not get hit by car in all of her escapades.
So with that said, pets that can do very well ON THEIR OWN are very smart. I've worked at a shelter and a pet hospital, so I can recognize some of the smart breeds that are fiercely independent are very similar to cats.
And finally, you DO have dependent cats. There's a lot of kittens that were born out of incest often when a owner kept the previous litter intact and those kittens end having more kittens. Similar with rabbits getting out of hand. Inbred cats are just as dumb and fortunately (or unfortunately) depending on how you look at it, the cat isn't that obvious about being dumb as rocks sometimes. But you can bet that those cats are treated as bottom feeders on the totem pole of their social hierarchy (only the smart, strong and survivalist is the top cat in those cat colonies). I've adopted another cat 6 months later, and we can say nearly a week or so that she's a special needs type of cat. Special kind of dumb but we adore her to pieces for a lot of different reasons anyway. She's more of the dog of the two ironically enough. She'll even fetch for you.
Another poster is right, independent cats are like teenagers that hate you and don't want to leave home yet. Dependent cats however has very similar personalities of most dependent dogs, they want attention, they would greet you after all day like they were abandoned all day EVEN IF YOU WERE GONE FOR ONLY A HOUR. They cry often even at the silliest things. Thankfully they also know how to play and be very playful well into their old age despite of not being a kitten anymore. My Soxi is only 8 years old, she still obsessed with mouse toys that rattles.
hey dog owners, if you're so smart you think maybe you can clean up the shit your dogs leave behind?
as for who's smarter, it all depends on how much you engage with your pet. my Russian Donskoys are as smart as any dog.
they play, they can use the toilet, open doors, once one of them even called out to me because there was a stove fire.
it would be nice if these topics didn't devolve into the usual chest thumping but we all know cat owners are too classy to engage in that.
as for who's smarter, it all depends on how much you engage with your pet. my Russian Donskoys are as smart as any dog.
they play, they can use the toilet, open doors, once one of them even called out to me because there was a stove fire.
it would be nice if these topics didn't devolve into the usual chest thumping but we all know cat owners are too classy to engage in that.
Oh man I 100% prefer cats to dogs. I like other people's dogs and they're fun to hang out with for a bit, but I'd never get one myself. I always find dogs are like 5 year olds constantly following you around and expecting you to play with them or give them your food, and as friendly as dogs are I also find cats more expressive, like when they're happy I love the way their eyes go all squinty and they purr and do the headbutt thing.
Some dogs are dumber than rocks (but then again some people are even dumber than the dogs that are dumber than rocks).
I have 1 that is incredibly smart, actually too smart for his own good.
We have no idea how he survived before meeting his 1st family but he's very fearfull of humans and has a flee reaction turned to 11 AT ALL TIMES.
He also understand words, verbs, tense and conditional(which actually makes sense).
He hates going out for some reason and he has a safe place where he's left to his own device regardless of what happens.
We know he understand words because he do the usual doggy stuffs like giving paws.
We know he understand verbs and tenses because of his reaction depending on the sentence we use (we're speaking in French so the verb actually changes depending on how it's used).
Conditional is pretty much ingrained as everytime you order your dog to do something, it's akin to saying "if you do <order>, you'll get a treat".
I imagine that if you get a good street cat and raise it well you could get similar results.
I wouldn't underestimate how smart a dog can be though.
It's also known that if you take a small sheep from birth and play with it and train it like a dog, it's basically as smart as a dog.
And sheeps are the definition of dumb farm animal!
Also they don't really respond to order well as they won't care about what you say if they don't smell that you have a treat to give them.
For that they're thought as dumb though...
I have 1 that is incredibly smart, actually too smart for his own good.
We have no idea how he survived before meeting his 1st family but he's very fearfull of humans and has a flee reaction turned to 11 AT ALL TIMES.
He also understand words, verbs, tense and conditional(which actually makes sense).
He hates going out for some reason and he has a safe place where he's left to his own device regardless of what happens.
We know he understand words because he do the usual doggy stuffs like giving paws.
We know he understand verbs and tenses because of his reaction depending on the sentence we use (we're speaking in French so the verb actually changes depending on how it's used).
Conditional is pretty much ingrained as everytime you order your dog to do something, it's akin to saying "if you do <order>, you'll get a treat".
I imagine that if you get a good street cat and raise it well you could get similar results.
I wouldn't underestimate how smart a dog can be though.
It's also known that if you take a small sheep from birth and play with it and train it like a dog, it's basically as smart as a dog.
And sheeps are the definition of dumb farm animal!
Get a Chowchow, they don't give a crap whether you're here or not.
Also they don't really respond to order well as they won't care about what you say if they don't smell that you have a treat to give them.
For that they're thought as dumb though...
Surprise twist: this study was funded by cats as part of a multi-pronged strategy to take over the world.
common knowledge
some dogs breeds are very intelligent, others - not so much
but even the smartest cat just sleeps all day and is pretty much only trained to use a litter box and nothing else.
some dogs breeds are very intelligent, others - not so much
but even the smartest cat just sleeps all day and is pretty much only trained to use a litter box and nothing else.
No offense to dog people but every dog I've seen is a fucking idiot that wont shut the fuck up. There's a neighbor in my apartment with these two fucking dogs that scream at you endlessly whenever you pass by even if you're just walking.
Cats are smooth and chill intellectuals that curl up with you. Dogs are clownish buffoons.
Cats are smooth and chill intellectuals that curl up with you. Dogs are clownish buffoons.
I've got an orange Tabby that we taught to fetch. He's more obsessed with it than any dog I've ever seen. I'll hide the toy in random places, and within an hour of me getting home he'll be sitting in front of the couch with it at his feet staring at me, waiting for me to throw it. He'll fetch for a good hour solid.
It really depends on the individual animal and breed. Orange Tabbies in particular are very easygoing and adaptable, and generally about as friendly as your average golden retriever. Siamese are the closest thing to a dog in the cat world, they get very attached to their owners and will follow them foot to foot, and get anxious when you're not around. The single most loving, empathetic and purely good animal I've ever owned was a Siamese, and losing her this month was harder than losing any pet I've ever had to say goodbye to. We had a shorthand, a bond that was far deeper than any I've ever had with a dog. I was a wreck for the days before we had to have her put down, but even after she lost the use of her back legs and was immobilized, whenever I would start to lose it around her, she would meow and paw at me so I could lean down and let her nuzzle my chin and groom my beard. She refused to let me be sad.
That was her a couple hours before we had to say goodbye.
Boy, this turned into a bummer of a fucking post didn't it?
Yo this is beautiful and you'll be ok. Stay strong
Someone hasn't had to live near a place with cats fucking outside.
I wish the dog in my avatar (my parents' dog who constantly gets dropped off at my house for extended stays) got the memo.
Appreciate it. We've gotten a new siamese kitten since then, she's currently whipping everyone's ass around the house. We had Mickey for 16 years, it's just so strange not having her around. We lost her brother three weeks prior, and he didn't get the gift of going to sleep. Had a heart attack and struggled for five minutes before he finally gave up while I held him. Owning pets is a very fulfilling experience, but when one goes unexpectedly and violently like that, it's traumatic as hell.
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